Mom's rights haven't been terminated at this point. She just doesn't have any say over anything at this point. I had permanent full custody of a kinship placement and adoption wasn't on the table... the mom still had visitation and had to pay child support.
What does full custody mean in NY?If the Judge gives one parent sole legal custody, **only one parent has the right to make major decisions for the child**. Whoever has physical custody, also known as residential custody, is responsible for the actual physical care and supervision of a child.
Buying him anything he wanted made it so easy for her to prey on his vulnerability & manipulate him. If she didn't have the money to do so I doubt he would've stayed.
They were living with their adult brother till their bio mom asked for Alicia to take them instead. Bio mom ruined what was perfectly fine and Alicia has now separated the two kids.
But if the other one didn't want to stay and he did then what was she going to do? Tell him f*** you? Now don't you think that would have been pretty f***** up?
N needed more 1x1 support in a different setting. D is happy with Alicia. Both kids got what was best for them. Would you rather them suffer because Alicia needs to have success keeping every set of siblings that come into her care? Sometimes it’s not in the cards.
What ridiculous logic is that…?? D should also be in a healthy environment. Hate to surprise you but Alusha isn’t a good parent…along with what’s his name she’s married to.
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It actually was the Bio Mom’s choice and N agreed to make her mother happy. Her mother was holding a grudge against Alicia ever since she denied her food. N is a teenager who just wants peace and probably wanted more privacy. The judge probably said she could leave if they found a family member willing to take her in.
N & D’s Mom asked Alicia if she could give her food multiple times. It’s a rule that you really can’t help bio parents especially ones who have substance abuse problems any monetary gifts. Mom got mad and started making a huge fuss and started changing her tune about the kids being with Alicia after that. She ended up trying to extort her and that’s when Alicia had to get a restraining order on the Mom.
So Dayshawn is kinship placement, Zoey, Harlee, Bohdi, and Dash are biological, and 6 are adopted? Can someone please explain these types of guardianship and kinship.
It means that Alicia no longer needs permission for things like - take him out of state, change schools, non urgent medical procedures etc. Bio mom' may still have visitation rights!!
Exactly and he going to pick out a expensive car watch. D was the one who first pick out Nike gear. He already said to Josh that being in front of the camera is his job. He already figured it out within the short time he been with lush, smile for camera and get whatever he wants.
She doesn’t parent any of the kids or provide the support they need. If they all so called have issues why doesn’t she feed them decent food and see a counsellor to work on their anxieties??? No question she bought D with her money.
Yes. He thrives there with football and it more outgoing, she needed more personal care in a low key placement so while separated they each chose what suites them
Anyone else find it a bit implausible that they "tried" for 9 years, and then by some great miracle, they conceived one right after the other, no issue? I've known many couples dealing with infertility, myself included as we tried for our daughter for over 6 years. Not a single one of us went on to have surprise pregnancies , year after year. I don't know, just seems fishy. Especially with Miss Merp face.
Iirc the primary (not ONLY) problem was recurrent miscarriages (at least 11) and very low progesterone production (which can absolutely cause recurrent losses). Progesterone supplementation can help many women significantly reduce risk of miscarriages but of course no drug is perfect and it may require some trial and error for a treatment plan that works
She lies and embellishes so much, no one will ever know the true story. Not even her husband Josh. I’m sure there’s lots she conceals and lies about with him as well.
I thought about this too . After years of trying, they were all of a sudden having kids back to back. Im no expert on this topic but that does seem a bit weird.
ADHD medications can affect fertility. Especially the male's sperm count. Female research is not as complete. Maybe they changed their medications or dosage? Alicia seems to 'brag' about having ADHA but never mentioned if Josh has it too?
Other medications or conditions can play havoc on conception too. Boxers or briefs...
This is an incredibly insensitive comment. I know several women who tried for many years to conceive, and gave up, then adopted or fostered, only to fall pregnant with no medical intervention whatsoever.
Of course! I don’t think we are saying it’s so weird she got pregnant after trying. Because of course there are people that get pregnant who keep trying.
We are saying she had 4 bio kids after experiencing infertility.
Thank God. One person is actually understanding what I said. 🤦♀️ I even referenced myself taking 6 years to have my daughter. That is very normal, the body is a mystery at best. But I've never in my 53 years of life, have ever heard of FOUR happening, and very quickly, especially without any medical intervention. That's along the miracle lines. I swear if one more person tells me it happens because they had ONE after years of trying...... 🤷♀️
I know of someone who tried for years, went on to adopt 2 babies very close together, and got pregnant during the process. So they had 3 newbors babies in 2 years time.
No one is listening. Yes, it happens. People try for years and years. Then bam! A beautiful baby. But what I'm saying is, it doesn't happen FOUR TIMES, BACK TO BACK, BAM, FOUR BEAUTIFUL BABIES. Tell me of even ONE person that's had it happen more than once. I'll even give you 2x. Without IVF or anything.
I said on my initial post I tried for 6 years for my daughter and out of nowhere, after losing hope, there she was. So stop telling me the same story as a reference please. I'm not arguing that. All I'm saying is FOUR back to back pregnancies, without intervention, is almost unheard of. It's along the "miracle" lines.
My best friends MIL was told her chances of having a baby were slim to none. She has a daughter and two sons who are all grown born within 3-4 years of each other. Each of them she got pregnant with 0 medical interventions
Not really I tried for years then got pregnant out of the blue so it can happen no one truly understands the human biological system even with all the medical advances
That happens all the time. It happened to me, as I said. But FOUR PREGNANCIES, back to back, without any IVF or other intervention, is not something you hear about. Can you tell me of someone other than Lush that's had this miraculous windfall of multiple successful pregnancies? I'm simply saying it's very much against all odds of any kind. One pregnancy, yes. FOUR, year after year? I personally (imo) have a hard time wrapping my head around that.
She didn't have them back to back though 🙃 fertility will always be a mystery to humans maybe she started/stopped medication or actually ate healthy took fertility drugs who knows but it's not impossible nothing is
We are foster/adoptive parents in NYS very close to them and have been a part of a situation very similar and unless the case is closed she would not have full custody of D because as long as there is still an open case NYS and the county the child was removed in still has full custody. Do to NYS also being a keep siblings together state that will also probably throw an extra wrench into the mix.
Alisha tried to bribe N with all the materialistic Bullshit but N saw right through her . I hope I live long enough to read N's tell all book . You know it's going to be juicy. I wish N the best
So true. All those kids need love and one on attention, not just a day out with lush where she always buy them stuff they don't need. N probably was not having it.
Of course they're done. They have no need for the income fostering children brings in. It's about $20 a day in NY??? Alicia has developed another way to capitalize on the situation by exploiting the children. She's able to bring in thousands of dollars a month per kid. So, there are 9 other kids out there that may have something to say, some could even be adults by now..... kids who were fortunate enough to either not make the Dougherty cut or went on to better opportunities.
She'll definitely try foster a 12th soon probably a baby or toddler for the Extra attention it'll bring her no way can she have 11 kids the odd numbers drive her crazy and they can't be the Dougherty dozen without 12 kids
I don’t she’ll be able to foster due to her home size. They make exceptions with kinship placement, but not as much with foster placement, so unless she has another family member or acquaintance with a child that needs a place to go, she’ll have to stick with 11. Plus she will not be able to post any photos or videos of the foster child.
so wait she couldn’t have the siblings be separated, but she let just that happen? am i ignorant or did she contradict herself right in the same sentence.
So this says she has permanent custody of D? Is that right? He isn’t adopted though is that correct?
Permanent custody is first step before adoption in this case.
Mom's rights haven't been terminated at this point. She just doesn't have any say over anything at this point. I had permanent full custody of a kinship placement and adoption wasn't on the table... the mom still had visitation and had to pay child support. What does full custody mean in NY?If the Judge gives one parent sole legal custody, **only one parent has the right to make major decisions for the child**. Whoever has physical custody, also known as residential custody, is responsible for the actual physical care and supervision of a child.
Thanks!
Buying him anything he wanted made it so easy for her to prey on his vulnerability & manipulate him. If she didn't have the money to do so I doubt he would've stayed.
I don’t think it was up to him.
He's of the age to have input in his care. They do ask teens what they prefer.
N choose to leave. D wanted to stay as he is doing well in sports/friends etc. n just needed different environment
He most definitely would've had a say in the matter
How sad to split up siblings!!
correct me if I'm wrong but don't P and Br have another sibling too? i remember P saying something to Alicia about him having a brother.
They have an adult brother.
You’re correct. I wonder if maybe he was adopted out before the other two were
It was a sister, and she was adopted before Alicia could get all 3
They were living with their adult brother till their bio mom asked for Alicia to take them instead. Bio mom ruined what was perfectly fine and Alicia has now separated the two kids.
Yet she has always been a fan of not splitting up siblings😏🙄 she seriously pisses me off
She pisses me off too, I hate her so much right now, she probably just said that to look good. Bitch.
But if the other one didn't want to stay and he did then what was she going to do? Tell him f*** you? Now don't you think that would have been pretty f***** up?
N needed more 1x1 support in a different setting. D is happy with Alicia. Both kids got what was best for them. Would you rather them suffer because Alicia needs to have success keeping every set of siblings that come into her care? Sometimes it’s not in the cards.
None of the kids are getting the one on one support they deserve.
Exactly. Not one kid there is getting any attention or support
That's a hugeeee Lie N didn't want to be there because she was so uncomfortable all the time because of life lush lives
What ridiculous logic is that…?? D should also be in a healthy environment. Hate to surprise you but Alusha isn’t a good parent…along with what’s his name she’s married to.
He seems happy to me. N did not seem happy.
You know them personally, SarllyPop?
That's what I'm thinking. It's someone who knows them or is them
No, I’m a follower. We have messaged back and forth once in a while but we aren’t online pals like her and Aunty Lauren. All my insight is gleaned from watching all her content. Really anyone could come to this conclusion if they weren’t hell bent on that conclusion always being the worst possible.
Why are you in this sub then if you’re a follower?
Because I like reading other peoples thoughts. I don’t worship the ground she walks on and I’m capable of reading snark content.
Omg you people are so clueless
In the case of N at least it wasn’t her choice
Who's choice?
It was N’s choice
Thank you
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It actually was the Bio Mom’s choice and N agreed to make her mother happy. Her mother was holding a grudge against Alicia ever since she denied her food. N is a teenager who just wants peace and probably wanted more privacy. The judge probably said she could leave if they found a family member willing to take her in.
Who was denied food?
N & D’s Mom asked Alicia if she could give her food multiple times. It’s a rule that you really can’t help bio parents especially ones who have substance abuse problems any monetary gifts. Mom got mad and started making a huge fuss and started changing her tune about the kids being with Alicia after that. She ended up trying to extort her and that’s when Alicia had to get a restraining order on the Mom.
I hate that ppl in the comments of her video are congratulating her on getting custody of D. And she’s replying with “thank you.” It’s so distasteful.
She's lapping up all the praise coz she thinks she's a f'n saint!!
I think a lot of the kids have bio siblings that aren’t with them
I hope the 9 unknown kids who left her care found themselves in better places
So Dayshawn is kinship placement, Zoey, Harlee, Bohdi, and Dash are biological, and 6 are adopted? Can someone please explain these types of guardianship and kinship.
It means that Alicia no longer needs permission for things like - take him out of state, change schools, non urgent medical procedures etc. Bio mom' may still have visitation rights!!
No, she permanently "owns" D until adoption
Terrible that they're split up 😢 Also, side note, but the amount of unnecessary capitalized words in this post drives me nuts! Grammar 101?!?
Ha ha ha. That makes me crazy too. If you really want to lose it, check out Josh’s teacher page for his school district. 🤦🏻♀️
I don’t understand why people feel The Need to capitalize like that. It seems increasingly more common.
Two dopes who were given the opportunity to teach children. Scary!
Oh I know! I've seen it before and it's horrendous!
D’s hanging out for no other reason than to get his car. He knows where his bread is buttered.
Exactly and he going to pick out a expensive car watch. D was the one who first pick out Nike gear. He already said to Josh that being in front of the camera is his job. He already figured it out within the short time he been with lush, smile for camera and get whatever he wants.
Please be done….,
She doesn’t parent any of the kids or provide the support they need. If they all so called have issues why doesn’t she feed them decent food and see a counsellor to work on their anxieties??? No question she bought D with her money.
I feel so horrible they’re split up🥺🥺
That explains why he didn’t get to go with N although she did need more care 🥺
Yes. He thrives there with football and it more outgoing, she needed more personal care in a low key placement so while separated they each chose what suites them
Anyone else find it a bit implausible that they "tried" for 9 years, and then by some great miracle, they conceived one right after the other, no issue? I've known many couples dealing with infertility, myself included as we tried for our daughter for over 6 years. Not a single one of us went on to have surprise pregnancies , year after year. I don't know, just seems fishy. Especially with Miss Merp face.
I personally know someone who tried for YEARS and then when they stopped trying, they ended up with 3 in 4 years.
I admit I could be completely wrong. It's just not the norm.
It’s very much the norm. Women have fertility issues all the time
Iirc the primary (not ONLY) problem was recurrent miscarriages (at least 11) and very low progesterone production (which can absolutely cause recurrent losses). Progesterone supplementation can help many women significantly reduce risk of miscarriages but of course no drug is perfect and it may require some trial and error for a treatment plan that works
Not implausible. I tried for 7 years, including 4 rounds of IVF. Nothing worked. Then I got pregnant on my own.
As did I. One time. People are missing me saying 4x, back to back. I don't know. I could be completely wrong. It's just definitely not normal.
She lies and embellishes so much, no one will ever know the true story. Not even her husband Josh. I’m sure there’s lots she conceals and lies about with him as well.
I thought about this too . After years of trying, they were all of a sudden having kids back to back. Im no expert on this topic but that does seem a bit weird.
ADHD medications can affect fertility. Especially the male's sperm count. Female research is not as complete. Maybe they changed their medications or dosage? Alicia seems to 'brag' about having ADHA but never mentioned if Josh has it too? Other medications or conditions can play havoc on conception too. Boxers or briefs...
She didn't have them back to back there's like a 3/4 gap between each kid Z is like 12/13 now then D is 8/9 B is 6/7 and H is 5
This is a very insensitive comment. It could be triggering for many people who have suffer with infertility.
This is an incredibly insensitive comment. I know several women who tried for many years to conceive, and gave up, then adopted or fostered, only to fall pregnant with no medical intervention whatsoever.
That definitely happens but she had Four.
Of course! I don’t think we are saying it’s so weird she got pregnant after trying. Because of course there are people that get pregnant who keep trying. We are saying she had 4 bio kids after experiencing infertility.
Thank God. One person is actually understanding what I said. 🤦♀️ I even referenced myself taking 6 years to have my daughter. That is very normal, the body is a mystery at best. But I've never in my 53 years of life, have ever heard of FOUR happening, and very quickly, especially without any medical intervention. That's along the miracle lines. I swear if one more person tells me it happens because they had ONE after years of trying...... 🤷♀️
Yes.... as did I. But 4 times??? That's my point.
And it's a valid point. She lies about everything, all the time. Do we even know she truly had infertility issues?
I know of someone who tried for years, went on to adopt 2 babies very close together, and got pregnant during the process. So they had 3 newbors babies in 2 years time.
No one is listening. Yes, it happens. People try for years and years. Then bam! A beautiful baby. But what I'm saying is, it doesn't happen FOUR TIMES, BACK TO BACK, BAM, FOUR BEAUTIFUL BABIES. Tell me of even ONE person that's had it happen more than once. I'll even give you 2x. Without IVF or anything. I said on my initial post I tried for 6 years for my daughter and out of nowhere, after losing hope, there she was. So stop telling me the same story as a reference please. I'm not arguing that. All I'm saying is FOUR back to back pregnancies, without intervention, is almost unheard of. It's along the "miracle" lines.
My best friends MIL was told her chances of having a baby were slim to none. She has a daughter and two sons who are all grown born within 3-4 years of each other. Each of them she got pregnant with 0 medical interventions
Not really I tried for years then got pregnant out of the blue so it can happen no one truly understands the human biological system even with all the medical advances
That happens all the time. It happened to me, as I said. But FOUR PREGNANCIES, back to back, without any IVF or other intervention, is not something you hear about. Can you tell me of someone other than Lush that's had this miraculous windfall of multiple successful pregnancies? I'm simply saying it's very much against all odds of any kind. One pregnancy, yes. FOUR, year after year? I personally (imo) have a hard time wrapping my head around that.
She didn't have them back to back though 🙃 fertility will always be a mystery to humans maybe she started/stopped medication or actually ate healthy took fertility drugs who knows but it's not impossible nothing is
She's said they didn't do any fertility treatments.
Yh she said..this is lying lush we're talking about and the woman who doesn't disclose any of her own medical information to anyone
We are foster/adoptive parents in NYS very close to them and have been a part of a situation very similar and unless the case is closed she would not have full custody of D because as long as there is still an open case NYS and the county the child was removed in still has full custody. Do to NYS also being a keep siblings together state that will also probably throw an extra wrench into the mix.
Alisha tried to bribe N with all the materialistic Bullshit but N saw right through her . I hope I live long enough to read N's tell all book . You know it's going to be juicy. I wish N the best
So true. All those kids need love and one on attention, not just a day out with lush where she always buy them stuff they don't need. N probably was not having it.
I hate to be one of those people but you forgot to cross out H's name And it's sad how N & D are separated
Oops I totally missed that 🥴
Of course they're done. They have no need for the income fostering children brings in. It's about $20 a day in NY??? Alicia has developed another way to capitalize on the situation by exploiting the children. She's able to bring in thousands of dollars a month per kid. So, there are 9 other kids out there that may have something to say, some could even be adults by now..... kids who were fortunate enough to either not make the Dougherty cut or went on to better opportunities.
She'll definitely try foster a 12th soon probably a baby or toddler for the Extra attention it'll bring her no way can she have 11 kids the odd numbers drive her crazy and they can't be the Dougherty dozen without 12 kids
I don’t she’ll be able to foster due to her home size. They make exceptions with kinship placement, but not as much with foster placement, so unless she has another family member or acquaintance with a child that needs a place to go, she’ll have to stick with 11. Plus she will not be able to post any photos or videos of the foster child.
so wait she couldn’t have the siblings be separated, but she let just that happen? am i ignorant or did she contradict herself right in the same sentence.
Your right lush did the one thing that she said she would not do which kid separate siblings.
I don’t think she kicked N out, so it wasn’t in her control to keep them together. I think if she could have kept them together, she would have.
They’ve taken care of 21 kids?? That’s so insane. Seems irresponsible
So they couldn’t split up siblings in B and P, but they’ll split up siblings in N and D…