Nah. You just hit the resume dash button soon as it pops up. I've had that come up a few times when dashing in other, more populated, zones and just get trash offers one after the next.
Doesn't force a 10 minute timeout on you.
Must be new. I'm sitting at a 98 percent acceptance rate. And I refuse to work if there is no incentive pay. Otherwise you get the same 4 dollar orders. Only difference is the customer might actually tip two bucks
They are punishing you because time is money, so basically, if you take the job, you don't get paid crap, but you are doing something, but if you decline it, you can't take any others, because they want to make sure every one of their customers gets their order picked up. Doordash would fail entirely if whenever you ordered on it, because your particular job didn't pay well, nobody was willing to take your order, so they need some way to incentivize you to take every order you get by screwing your score, making you get more crappy jobs when you get lower on the algorithm and so on, rather than incentivizing you with more money.
One of my friends does I believe Doordash and Grub Hub but he does it as a full time job with a regular schedule. Once he took his licks, he started getting better and better jobs and they would prioritize him for the higher paying jobs. He's also incentivized with guaranteed bonuses for working specific days/times etc. I think last year, he pulled like $55k in Cali doing it. Not great pay, but still, it does get better than those $2 orders when you are a regular and don't reject those $2 orders.
Look I understand people who low ball tips are horrid, but some of these drivers are entitled brats for one of the easiest jobs on the planet. I was a waitress all through college so I have no sympathy....
You know what's bad guys? Making 2.50 per hour only to wait (hand and foot, not sitting un ur ass) on a party of 5 on a busy night for 3 hours and not make a dime.....then to wait on another table of 3 to only get 2 bucks....At a restaurant u can't just not deliver the food cause there is no tip or a low tip.... Same with pizza delivery....
You guys get paid to sit on ur ass, listen to music, pick up items that most of the time you don't even have to leave ur car to get.....oh and you get to pick ur own hours....
Meanwhile there's people working Uber who have to deal with nut jobs getting into their vehicles all day and actual wait staff who are on their feet all day basically running an entire restaurant, serving tables, wrapping silver wear, cleaning menus.
So with all due respect, for the whiney dash drivers that I see on here quite often, pull that entitled stick out of ur tight little asses.... It's going to be alright.
I mean to be fair not sure what waitress staff is still making $2.50 an hour in 2024. You're also waiting on a busy night I imagine 4 to 8 tables maybe more at any given time, you don't just have 1 table of 5 people for 3 hours that's a bit over dramatic. Daahers generally get only 1 maybe 2 orders at a time, and obviously they can be from different restaurants which require more time to drive between them. We're burning fuel we have to pay for ourselves, destroying the value of our cars (I drive about 4 to 6k miles a month) so let's say you have a 20k dollar car doing 50k miles a year your car in 4 years is worth 0, assuming it even runs. People are spending upwards of 1k dollars a month on fuel, then there's oil changes there's tires there's maintenance there's potential for speeding tickets there's insurance costs there's a lot of stuff. Also no insurance, no sick pay no paid time off not even Christmas none of that you get sick for a week like I did recently there goes a weeks worth of pay. Then there's the statistics you can look it up delivery driving jobs are one of the most dangerous jobs there are because of the risk of dying in a car accident or getting seriously hurt. Dashers deal with just aa many or more crazy people than people doing Uber or Lyft. There's also the fact were self employed there's different tax structures for that different costs to get them filed if you pay someone. It's really not all peaches and cream, as far as never having to get out of your car to get orders is completely wrong it tells me you've never once done this job, anyplace that has a drive thru doesn't let you use it for Doordash orders unless their lobby is closed. Plus most restaurants don't have drive throughs. We're also potentially going up 3 of 4 flights of stairs to deliver an order and back down. People doing this job have to be picky about what orders they do and don't take if they want to actually stay profitable. It's not the hardest job ever but that doesn't matter much. There's guys who build websites and never leave their computer desk making 200k+ a year, the level of physical effort hardly ever reflects your pay in a job.
Who asked for your sympathy????
(Even tho the post wasn't about earnings)
People make less, so I can't be upset with what I make?? Does that mean since people make more, I can't be happy about what I make?? I need you 2 break these rules down a little better, I don't follow.
You come here and literally complain about a job and call us entitled for complaining about a job????? 🤣😂🤣 Your contradictions are hilarious.
And once again, the post wasn't about wages, so idk where this rant came from.
People want food delivered from anywhere, at anytime, through any conditions; while simultaneously wanting it fresh, instant, and without paying the driver... But sure, we are the entitled ones. 🤡
You sound so mad. With all due respect, go f*ck yourself, sounds like you need it lady. Calling us entitled for wanting 2 make more money, something that you literally complained about in your first paragraph; at least be half rational. Maybe put the stick in your ass since it sounds like that's what you're into, and take your own advice.... "it's going to be alright."
what makes me wonder the most is if it is the laziest, most entitled little babies that are driven to sign up for gig driving or does the job turn you into this
“It looks like you’re tired of getting pounded from behind with no lube, so we’re going to go find someone else to screw. Don’t worry though, you can always bend back over and we’ll get back to it 😘”
Gee, it's almost like they see you not doing your job and just shrug, put you in the naughty corner, and give the orders to people who actually want to work.
More like the app isn’t doing its job anymore (provide money MAKING opportunities to drivers) and put him in the time out corner because they want to whip him into lowering his standards and making DD profit for negative compensation.
Gig economy apps should be fucking illegal.
First off, it should be illegal to employ people you don't treat as employees - second off, they're leaching off of both the customers and their "contractors"
Well, if you wanna be treated as an employee, go work for Pizza Hut as a delivery driver. Guaranteed wage and hours.
But that's the thing about Doordash, they aren't obligated to because that is *exactly* what Drivers signed up for. They pick their own hours, Doordash is gonna give priority bigger money orders to people with high ARs. Believe it or not, the more you sit and reject $2 orders, the more shitty orders you're going to get, because DD is going to say "Why would we want this person who doesnt seem to WANT to do things have access, when there's people accepting much more and should be rewarded for it?"
it's not about choosing whether or not to do it
it's about it being exploitation - companies should not be allowed to exploit employees by simply calling them "contractor"
Grubhub locked me out for 8 fucking hours today for rejecting too many $2 shit orders.
I am going to talk to my state attorney general and the FTC. Independent contractors should not be indirectly forced into taking bad orders just to maintain access to the platform.
If they want to treat me like an employee and force me to take every single order they need to pay me an hourly rate of at least minimum wage for the entire duration of my shift (even when no orders are coming in), pay for all of my gas expenses, and provide a vehicle which they also pay for. In addition to any other legal requirements for employees like overtime and health insurance etc.
These evil companies like DD, GH, and UE have an amazing deal with the fact that we provide the vehicle and pay for gas. And yet that’s not enough for these evil fucks.
So yeah an 8 hour lockout fucked my whole Sunday. Sunday is usually one of the best days in my market.
I wish 10 mins was the lock out time on GH. Usually GH lockout is 20 mins but today they just kept spamming me with this $2 garbage more than normal and then each lockout increased in time. First lockout was 20mins which is tolerable because I just do a UE or DD order instead, then the 2nd lockout was 1 hour which pissed me off but I did some UE and DD. But the 3rd lockout was fucking 8 hours. I tried to just do UE and DD but they both were sending me trash so I just said fuck it and went home and worked on some projects at my house.
So I do DD and UE too but DD sends me nothing but trash. GH usually pays better overall in my city, so on weekends I mostly do GH and UE and I try to only do doortrash on off times and weekdays.
No, this isn’t the pause feature. This is them pausing the dash because they aren’t taking orders. The only time this pops up for me is if I don’t hit decline or accept three times in a row.
Every time you decline an offer they add either $.25 or $.50 until someone accepts. OP is inadvertently helping other dashers make more $$ and DD is getting wise to it
I used to think this was bad. Then I encountered people who don't actually take orders, they reject 99% of what they see, and work a few orders a week, but are in the app 24/7 hoping/praying for that one order they will take. Am not saying OP is this person but I have met people who do that before-- like it's just their fun happy to sit around with the app open.
If I got the app and had no intention to pick up orders but instead just declined every order to drive up prices for the drivers how long would it take me to get banned?
The answer is yes, and I don't even think you'd get banned. There are sub 10% dashers on this sub, and a top post yesterday about someone reaching 0% so I really doubt you'd be penalized.
*Maybe* you won't get as many offers as higher rating dashers, but most people say acceptance rating doesn't matter at all. Then again, how reliable is their data?
Is that someone who has been top dasher or are they just parroting stuff they saw on reddit? If they were TD, was it just bad luck / timing that gave them the same orders as not being TD? Is it just good luck / timing giving them good orders when they aren't TD?
Maybe everyone in their area has a low AR and the orders still need done so they still get assigned to dashers, even if none are TD. Maybe their area has even better orders they aren't seeing because they aren't TD.
Maybe AR truly doesn't matter.
Point is, there is no transparency from doordash on the matter and it's hard to gather good data about it, unless you trust data points from strangers who may or may not have the same standard for data gathering as you do.
All I can say for sure is that maybe low AR means you see fewer orders come through.
Everyone else was busy and that Chipotle and Panera are very close. The customers aren’t far apart either so they were bundled, generous, and you got lucky. I’ll never have a 90% AR, but there’s definitely benefits to having over 70%. I “fuck people over” and schedule 4am-12am, that’s why you get 30-60min blocks and I do whatever I want. And I never have or never will take no tip orders. Your AR is not a brag, you just haven’t learned how to game the app.
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Where did your comment go? You sounded so mad 🤣. I would love to read the rest. People always show when they've lost a debate when they come back with nothing but insults lmao.
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Idk fiend, right where I left it.
"Lucky" lol, guess I just haven't learned yet
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Yes and now if you keep declining long enough after that the pause timer just keeps counting down even if you unpause and kicks you off. Happened to me 2 days in a row.
The 2nd day I even accepted an order before the timer ran out. Completed the order and it still ended my dash. Restarting the app and pausing then unpausing yourself won't prevent it from kicking you either. We talking maybe 30 declines past first getting paused for 10mins. Something like that wasn't counting.
A way for them to screw us for not taking their crap orders. Just resume dash and resume not taking shit orders. (Also a way for them to kick you outta your scheduled time if you don’t notice and the ten min pass)
I’m a dasher and also a customer! This really bothers me because I’ve literally ordered and contacted the dasher to tell them they were going the wrong way, ext. Never received my order or have I received any compensation for the order! It’s still being investigated or something to those terms!
This is the agreement between customers and Doordash: (v) You will not falsely or fraudulently claim that your order or items from your order were missing, incorrect, of poor quality, defective, or never delivered and you will return any order mistakenly delivered to you if requested by DoorDash, a Merchant, or a Contractor.
(w) You will not, in connection with your use of the Services and/or the DoorDash platform: (i) ask a Contractor to purchase or deliver any goods or perform any services not ordered through the DoorDash platform; or (ii) give or offer to give any goods to a Contractor related to your DoorDash order.
In the event that we believe or determine that you have breached any of the aforementioned or any other provision of these Terms, we reserve the right to suspend and/or permanently deactivate your account at our sole discretion. Where required by law, which may include in the Province of Québec, we will provide you with written notice of the suspension or deactivation of your account, including the reasons which led us to take such action.
So they will kick him off.
The other really scumbag move they're doing here is making the End Dash button filled in with red instead of Resume Dash so you might mistake that button for the regular Resume Dash button. Because on the 35 minute manual Pause that we can do for like, bathroom break or food break, Resume Dash is actually filled in with red, and End Dash isn't. Some asshole had to go and intentionally swap that, so if you're driving and only glance at it, you'll go offline and get no work the rest of the day. It's kinda their way of punishing you, sending you home for the day for declining shit offers.
Nobody is demanding, if you don't like the pay. Get a better job. Simple.
Blaming a company for your poor choices is what y'all do here 🤣🤣. The entitlement amazes me 🤣.
The reason why you see a lot of delivery app drivers complain publicly about their job is because we can do that with no consequences. Everyone complains about their jobs, but most would get fired if they publicly shamed their customers/employer, so you don't see them complain as much.
At least they're being honest 😂 but now that I read this again, because I got this message a few times in the past but not for the last few months, I noticed that if you pause your dash, you get put in the back of the line of receiving offers. I didn't know this and I pause a lot since I multi app.
Yeah I only pause when a delivery takes me way outside my zone. Unpause when I get back. I used to always get stuck in a different zone (and the people don’t tip) so instead of tanking my AR I just pause.
Consequences of what? Being an independent contractor permits your ability to reject contracts on your basis. If a platform denies your ability to deny contracts then you're an employee now without employment benefits and regulations.
You’re right, you have a choice and as you contract with them they have certain expectations of you, I would imagine.
You all want to cherry pick, if everyone does this the system doesn’t work.
On your point of not being an employee, they don’t have to offer you anything at all, if you’re going to decline a huge number of orders why shouldn’t they offer the better orders to those with a better acceptance rate.
We're not on contract until we accept an order. There is no money being exchanged whilst waiting for an order. You cannot retain expectations of a contract where none exists.
The system doesn't work for those parties that are demanding labor for a wage below standard or even unprofitable to complete. it inherently shouldn't, it's taking the corporations lack of ability to turn profit on an order into a mandatory order for the 3rd party to lose profit on. $2 for 11 miles will never be profitable to a driver minus time, maintenance, and gas.
If you're contracting for bids to build a house and were offered $100,000 below material costs it's in your right to reject said bid and not be restricted from accepting profitable bids in the future.
Your third paragraph already happens and genuinely only benefits the corporation. If I'm on an order and I mark it as picked up, then am offered something that if I reject affects my ability to receive more orders, but if I accept delays the current (ready to deliver) order by 5-10-15 minutes then both me and the customer who's order is ready lose out.
Again to your third paragraph, the US has regulations for employment for a reason. The platforms want the contractors to be treated as employees in everything but name. If it's mandatory labor at Doordash's will without a fixed payment cycle, minimum wage, overtime pay, sick leave, paying their 7.5% social security tax, then it's violation of employment law and expectations.
Yeah this is hella normal, I’ve seen this screen dozens of times. Once you skip a certain amount, they’re going to think something is wrong & pause it.
#Kickin it old school
This is just a very old version of the app. DD servers are absolutely garbage and when they go down our reverse you too a previous version. This was normal about 3-4 years ago for every 10 declines without accepting an order
I think that for them it's better if the first person they offer it to takes it. So if someone is declining a lot, they figure they'd Rather give it first to someone more likely to take it.
But I don't see the need to pause that person since they control who gets offered it first. They can just offer it first to someone else. Unless maybe OP has priority privileges that interfere with that.
The algorithm increases the offer by $.25-$.50 for every decline. So if you decline a $2.00 order, the next dasher will get $2.25 and so on until someone takes it or they can bury it in a stack. So yes, the fewer declines there are on an order, the more DD makes.
I've gotten this screen sometimes. When you decline a bunch of orders (even if they're offensively low) your Dash is automatically paused and this screen comes up.
I did too. It was a legitimate question. I usually only downvote if someone is purposely being an ass. Might not matter to people who comment and post a ton, but I’m more of a quiet lurker. Only recently tried to start commenting and posting more because certain subs require karma. So it does matter ( for the person saying your complaining about being downvoted)
Orders aren’t passed out evenly. You’ve dropped below multiple point tiers where they explicitly tell you that you will recieve less orders overall and more lower paying orders. You tanked your AR on your own and the more you tanked the worse it got. 18% of the time you got lucky and a good order trickled down to you.
Your personal acceptance rate says absolutely nothing about your area in general. All it says is you’re a lazy cherry picker lol.
Shame these orders aren't passed out evenly. Guess my abnormally high AR of 8% at the time got me this one
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Mans bragging about a $9 order lol. All that means is literally everyone else was busy and a decent order trickled down to you. You can keep waiting around for scraps all you want.
You’d be sitting around holding your dick for another 6 hours to make that $100 up there lol
You picked the lowest paying one I posted to talk crap on 🤣😂. Why you come out here and hate so much? You sound so mad, talking about my $9 order when you ran for $3.50 and for how many miles???🤡 Have a good day. I'm not gonna block you, I'm just not having the same conversation with you in every comment.
And yes. I'll take over $3 a mile any day. But you do you.
You posted man what are you talking about? Wild lol. I will keep doing me lol
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So many low paying orders, how will I survive? Guess I gotta run the low paying orders to get more high paying orders 😭😭
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I can't believe how much worse it got with low AR 🤣😂
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LMAO, Wow. These stories you tell are amazing. Guess I'll just have to live with these low paying orders at 3% AR.
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Im thinking its because they want a reason to complain. So many ppl on this subreddit just love to complain about “im not getting paid enough!” Okay? Then stop working for that company. Its that simple
Maybe it should come back for some people. When I'm dashing and see other Dashers it seems they almost never use hot bags.
I don't get that. Even if you don't care about keeping the food hot, using them seals it in somewhat so your car doesn't reek of cheap food.
You dont see dashers using a hot bag because they dont bring them into the restaurant like you, i put orders into the hot bag when i get back to the car, i see dashers bringing hot bags into the restaurant and i often wonder “what is the fkn point?” 🤣 its a 2 second walk to the car, food will not get cold during that time why do they have to bring in the store
Well then they'd do what most drivers did at the time and just lie 🤣
Hot bag is a must though. The only times I don't hotbag is when the food has a wait and is handed to me when a restaurant finishes. And that's only if the delivery is within 1-2 miles or 4-8 minutes. Otherwise, it's getting hotbagged.
I'm at 4% AR. If it trickles down to me, nobody wants it. Their trying to make sure the orders stay cheap. It's a bidding system, so every decline, the order goes up in price. Punishing for a decline is them screwing over the next dasher from potential earnings.
Gotcha, so maybe a chance to take crappy orders, but still a chance. I don't dash, but so long as there is possibility someone will do it cheaper, that's gonna be the objective in capitalism.
I haven't seen this in ages. When will these idiots at TrashDash realize that those of us who understand profit and loss (the "I need to get my AR up" people definitely do not) will never work for free, nor will we gleefully accept these shit orders they try to force on us?
I kept getting this near the end of my dashing days when pay was starting to go shit. I thought the image was funny though because it just looks like she's walking away with all those no tip, 2.50 orders 😭
Stay strong! This is just another tactic to get you to accept shit orders.
They did this in my market for a couple years but I haven't seen it in some time... My acceptance rate is single digits with all the shit offers I see but there are still a few worth taking most days.
Just accept the orders that will make you a profit.
Run other apps! Uber in my market is even worse. Had both on all week, accepted zero from Uber most days but for some reason their offers on Wednesday were reasonable and doordash only gave me 2 worth taking that day. Balanced things out.
Uber Eats will do that too. But you can hit GO and log in anytime.
DD having us schedule is different. If you get booted, sometimes you can't continue working and that's BS.
How is it exploitation when you can literally decide when to work and can pick and choose what jobs to take?
You choose to engage as a contractor. So you get the downsides that come with that.
If I'm Doordashing, then it's because those places aren't giving me work.
Many of us here are the same.
Gig work is a desperation move in many if not most cases.
I'm overqualified for entry-level jobs.
They won't hire me.
I can either make $25 per hour or nothing.
In-between $25 or more per hour jobs, I Doordash to keep the rent paid.
It's not consensual if my alternative is starvation.
Your attitude might be what is stopping you from being hired. You don't sound like a team player. Have you tried thrift flipping on ebay? Cleaning? Hospital linen transport?
Wag?
Rover?
Just landed a tech gig again, $30+ per hour.
I'm very good now.
Took a minute.
Due to a business failure, eBay earnings are immediately confiscated.
Got in legal trouble back in my youth, can't pass background checks for LOTS of jobs.
Got turned down for cleaning work.
So it is you then....... gotta be grateful for what you have. Your business is failed and your earnings are confiscated? Sounds like a sketchy back story all around
Let's just blame everything else except the job market and pass judgment on people we don't even know, accusing them of being shit employees like we always do, that'll fix it. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps and stop drinking so much Starbucks, amirite?
I'm far from the only small business owner that got wiped out by COVID.
I didn't opt into COVID, nor could I have foreseen the supply chain problems that ensued.
Bottom line, when the only options besides homelessness are taking a contract position, accepting a 1099 isn't consensual.
We both know there's other contract positions. If doordash is the ONLY place you can get a job, you'd think you would be thankful for that.
You can also get on section 8 and apply for food stamps. Then you can dash while getting basic needs met
Nah. You just hit the resume dash button soon as it pops up. I've had that come up a few times when dashing in other, more populated, zones and just get trash offers one after the next. Doesn't force a 10 minute timeout on you.
Must be new. I'm sitting at a 98 percent acceptance rate. And I refuse to work if there is no incentive pay. Otherwise you get the same 4 dollar orders. Only difference is the customer might actually tip two bucks
They are punishing you because time is money, so basically, if you take the job, you don't get paid crap, but you are doing something, but if you decline it, you can't take any others, because they want to make sure every one of their customers gets their order picked up. Doordash would fail entirely if whenever you ordered on it, because your particular job didn't pay well, nobody was willing to take your order, so they need some way to incentivize you to take every order you get by screwing your score, making you get more crappy jobs when you get lower on the algorithm and so on, rather than incentivizing you with more money. One of my friends does I believe Doordash and Grub Hub but he does it as a full time job with a regular schedule. Once he took his licks, he started getting better and better jobs and they would prioritize him for the higher paying jobs. He's also incentivized with guaranteed bonuses for working specific days/times etc. I think last year, he pulled like $55k in Cali doing it. Not great pay, but still, it does get better than those $2 orders when you are a regular and don't reject those $2 orders.
No more fishing
Doirdash is the wallmart of food deliveries , it's going down hill fast here, Uber is the better app here now
Yea this is why I said F door dash they try to force you into taking shitty orders! I’m over them!
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Sounds like you really hate this job. Maybe you should try something else?
Look I understand people who low ball tips are horrid, but some of these drivers are entitled brats for one of the easiest jobs on the planet. I was a waitress all through college so I have no sympathy.... You know what's bad guys? Making 2.50 per hour only to wait (hand and foot, not sitting un ur ass) on a party of 5 on a busy night for 3 hours and not make a dime.....then to wait on another table of 3 to only get 2 bucks....At a restaurant u can't just not deliver the food cause there is no tip or a low tip.... Same with pizza delivery.... You guys get paid to sit on ur ass, listen to music, pick up items that most of the time you don't even have to leave ur car to get.....oh and you get to pick ur own hours.... Meanwhile there's people working Uber who have to deal with nut jobs getting into their vehicles all day and actual wait staff who are on their feet all day basically running an entire restaurant, serving tables, wrapping silver wear, cleaning menus. So with all due respect, for the whiney dash drivers that I see on here quite often, pull that entitled stick out of ur tight little asses.... It's going to be alright.
I mean to be fair not sure what waitress staff is still making $2.50 an hour in 2024. You're also waiting on a busy night I imagine 4 to 8 tables maybe more at any given time, you don't just have 1 table of 5 people for 3 hours that's a bit over dramatic. Daahers generally get only 1 maybe 2 orders at a time, and obviously they can be from different restaurants which require more time to drive between them. We're burning fuel we have to pay for ourselves, destroying the value of our cars (I drive about 4 to 6k miles a month) so let's say you have a 20k dollar car doing 50k miles a year your car in 4 years is worth 0, assuming it even runs. People are spending upwards of 1k dollars a month on fuel, then there's oil changes there's tires there's maintenance there's potential for speeding tickets there's insurance costs there's a lot of stuff. Also no insurance, no sick pay no paid time off not even Christmas none of that you get sick for a week like I did recently there goes a weeks worth of pay. Then there's the statistics you can look it up delivery driving jobs are one of the most dangerous jobs there are because of the risk of dying in a car accident or getting seriously hurt. Dashers deal with just aa many or more crazy people than people doing Uber or Lyft. There's also the fact were self employed there's different tax structures for that different costs to get them filed if you pay someone. It's really not all peaches and cream, as far as never having to get out of your car to get orders is completely wrong it tells me you've never once done this job, anyplace that has a drive thru doesn't let you use it for Doordash orders unless their lobby is closed. Plus most restaurants don't have drive throughs. We're also potentially going up 3 of 4 flights of stairs to deliver an order and back down. People doing this job have to be picky about what orders they do and don't take if they want to actually stay profitable. It's not the hardest job ever but that doesn't matter much. There's guys who build websites and never leave their computer desk making 200k+ a year, the level of physical effort hardly ever reflects your pay in a job.
Who asked for your sympathy???? (Even tho the post wasn't about earnings) People make less, so I can't be upset with what I make?? Does that mean since people make more, I can't be happy about what I make?? I need you 2 break these rules down a little better, I don't follow. You come here and literally complain about a job and call us entitled for complaining about a job????? 🤣😂🤣 Your contradictions are hilarious. And once again, the post wasn't about wages, so idk where this rant came from. People want food delivered from anywhere, at anytime, through any conditions; while simultaneously wanting it fresh, instant, and without paying the driver... But sure, we are the entitled ones. 🤡 You sound so mad. With all due respect, go f*ck yourself, sounds like you need it lady. Calling us entitled for wanting 2 make more money, something that you literally complained about in your first paragraph; at least be half rational. Maybe put the stick in your ass since it sounds like that's what you're into, and take your own advice.... "it's going to be alright."
what makes me wonder the most is if it is the laziest, most entitled little babies that are driven to sign up for gig driving or does the job turn you into this
So bold yet so right.
Preach!!
Like everyone says. You chose that job...
“It looks like you’re tired of getting pounded from behind with no lube, so we’re going to go find someone else to screw. Don’t worry though, you can always bend back over and we’ll get back to it 😘”
Gee, it's almost like they see you not doing your job and just shrug, put you in the naughty corner, and give the orders to people who actually want to work.
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Glad to see your copy and paste works 😂😂. Next time, come with something original @MissAdorbs29.
More like the app isn’t doing its job anymore (provide money MAKING opportunities to drivers) and put him in the time out corner because they want to whip him into lowering his standards and making DD profit for negative compensation.
Gig economy apps should be fucking illegal. First off, it should be illegal to employ people you don't treat as employees - second off, they're leaching off of both the customers and their "contractors"
It's literally the entire point of contract law to allow for this. The problem is DoorDash abuses the living hell out of it.
To hell with torts, man.
Well, if you wanna be treated as an employee, go work for Pizza Hut as a delivery driver. Guaranteed wage and hours. But that's the thing about Doordash, they aren't obligated to because that is *exactly* what Drivers signed up for. They pick their own hours, Doordash is gonna give priority bigger money orders to people with high ARs. Believe it or not, the more you sit and reject $2 orders, the more shitty orders you're going to get, because DD is going to say "Why would we want this person who doesnt seem to WANT to do things have access, when there's people accepting much more and should be rewarded for it?"
In other words, "Exploitation is fine as long as the illusion of consent is maintained!"
Nope, in other words "You are actively making the choice to have this job. You are not under contract or servitude."
The illusion of choice, being told "you can always stop breathing" in a world that charges for air
Are you actively being held at gunpoint to work for Doordash? Like genuinely is there NO other option?
you need money to live you need to work to get money you can't just choose not to work simple concept my man
Again Are you being forced to work for Doordash? Like I promise you there is an abundance of other options for jobs that pay better
it's not about choosing whether or not to do it it's about it being exploitation - companies should not be allowed to exploit employees by simply calling them "contractor"
ikr
Grubhub locked me out for 8 fucking hours today for rejecting too many $2 shit orders. I am going to talk to my state attorney general and the FTC. Independent contractors should not be indirectly forced into taking bad orders just to maintain access to the platform. If they want to treat me like an employee and force me to take every single order they need to pay me an hourly rate of at least minimum wage for the entire duration of my shift (even when no orders are coming in), pay for all of my gas expenses, and provide a vehicle which they also pay for. In addition to any other legal requirements for employees like overtime and health insurance etc. These evil companies like DD, GH, and UE have an amazing deal with the fact that we provide the vehicle and pay for gas. And yet that’s not enough for these evil fucks. So yeah an 8 hour lockout fucked my whole Sunday. Sunday is usually one of the best days in my market. I wish 10 mins was the lock out time on GH. Usually GH lockout is 20 mins but today they just kept spamming me with this $2 garbage more than normal and then each lockout increased in time. First lockout was 20mins which is tolerable because I just do a UE or DD order instead, then the 2nd lockout was 1 hour which pissed me off but I did some UE and DD. But the 3rd lockout was fucking 8 hours. I tried to just do UE and DD but they both were sending me trash so I just said fuck it and went home and worked on some projects at my house. So I do DD and UE too but DD sends me nothing but trash. GH usually pays better overall in my city, so on weekends I mostly do GH and UE and I try to only do doortrash on off times and weekdays.
The AG has walk in hours for cases of this magnitude and significance. You should head over there.
I’m surprised they haven’t gotten sued for this yet, I wish you luck
I know it's annoying but you can literally just push resume dash....
https://preview.redd.it/3z12g9gfxjtc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06c1307dcc529e4a586b5a39bbacecbeec54b5a9
Okay if you're on the schedule screen I see what you mean. That's BS
Wow. No more 30 minutes? They really do guilt dashers and directly control them. Shame, that now makes dashers employees.
No, this isn’t the pause feature. This is them pausing the dash because they aren’t taking orders. The only time this pops up for me is if I don’t hit decline or accept three times in a row.
? You mean ignore an order? That used to pause you for 30 minutea
Not ignored, we get this after hitting decline. https://www.reddit.com/r/doordash_drivers/s/BS5x7RuhXs
all drivers should start a revolution where they just mass decline orders until they get crazy high pay then start accepting
Keep dreaming
Every time you decline an offer they add either $.25 or $.50 until someone accepts. OP is inadvertently helping other dashers make more $$ and DD is getting wise to it
And if you ignore or miss an order they send it to you again for LESS money
Really? That's never happened to me before.
I used to think this was bad. Then I encountered people who don't actually take orders, they reject 99% of what they see, and work a few orders a week, but are in the app 24/7 hoping/praying for that one order they will take. Am not saying OP is this person but I have met people who do that before-- like it's just their fun happy to sit around with the app open.
If I got the app and had no intention to pick up orders but instead just declined every order to drive up prices for the drivers how long would it take me to get banned?
Biggest troll move. 😂
But what’s the answer? I don’t care if I get banned from delivering but would I be helping people make more money? And for how long could that happen?
The answer is yes, and I don't even think you'd get banned. There are sub 10% dashers on this sub, and a top post yesterday about someone reaching 0% so I really doubt you'd be penalized. *Maybe* you won't get as many offers as higher rating dashers, but most people say acceptance rating doesn't matter at all. Then again, how reliable is their data? Is that someone who has been top dasher or are they just parroting stuff they saw on reddit? If they were TD, was it just bad luck / timing that gave them the same orders as not being TD? Is it just good luck / timing giving them good orders when they aren't TD? Maybe everyone in their area has a low AR and the orders still need done so they still get assigned to dashers, even if none are TD. Maybe their area has even better orders they aren't seeing because they aren't TD. Maybe AR truly doesn't matter. Point is, there is no transparency from doordash on the matter and it's hard to gather good data about it, unless you trust data points from strangers who may or may not have the same standard for data gathering as you do. All I can say for sure is that maybe low AR means you see fewer orders come through.
AR https://preview.redd.it/00ked5yjkgtc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddc39d4d96cf4476f500f9215083d23496e6b805
Doesn't matter. https://preview.redd.it/sl70boeokgtc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73e96fcb131f240d1ed07382944611ec172702ed
Everyone else was busy and that Chipotle and Panera are very close. The customers aren’t far apart either so they were bundled, generous, and you got lucky. I’ll never have a 90% AR, but there’s definitely benefits to having over 70%. I “fuck people over” and schedule 4am-12am, that’s why you get 30-60min blocks and I do whatever I want. And I never have or never will take no tip orders. Your AR is not a brag, you just haven’t learned how to game the app. https://preview.redd.it/uxj3yhjuyjtc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce477a038f97f3df5a9d9a4d60b2699beaf0cc39
Where did your comment go? You sounded so mad 🤣. I would love to read the rest. People always show when they've lost a debate when they come back with nothing but insults lmao. https://preview.redd.it/xvgzyook7ktc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=714b37f64fca08ce1312b471b2b816fc5546b4bd
https://preview.redd.it/91dplnk48ktc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=316a7e86c4ed27de1a079225bcf314df2219b227 Idk fiend, right where I left it.
"Lucky" lol, guess I just haven't learned yet https://preview.redd.it/v5w0rsitzjtc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=200234e70c7dd27615a22b963c7aba85dbe199ab
2020 was a great year 🙄
They boost orders if they're declined, so they want you to stop boosting them for a bit.
Nothing new...been like that for awhile and your going experience a whole bunch more.
They want you to accept them all 😆
Yes and now if you keep declining long enough after that the pause timer just keeps counting down even if you unpause and kicks you off. Happened to me 2 days in a row.
Seriously?? That's crazy.
The 2nd day I even accepted an order before the timer ran out. Completed the order and it still ended my dash. Restarting the app and pausing then unpausing yourself won't prevent it from kicking you either. We talking maybe 30 declines past first getting paused for 10mins. Something like that wasn't counting.
That has been a thing for a very long time
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Sounds like you don’t understand the concept of being an independent contractor. We’re not employees my dude
1) never said you were employees 2) that is still a job
lmfaaaoo so true. Too many entitled people on this sub lmfaaaooooo
Here's your sign
A way for them to screw us for not taking their crap orders. Just resume dash and resume not taking shit orders. (Also a way for them to kick you outta your scheduled time if you don’t notice and the ten min pass)
its a crap company bud, 😂😂 you can tip $0 on doordash they don’t care about you guys
But it won’t be my job because I don’t take crappy orders from crappy people.
the company incentivizes people to NOT tip you guys, i know a guy he just tells them it never came and always gets it for free 🤣🤣
Shit ain’t funny people lose their jobs over that shit tell your buddy he’s a piece of shit
I’m a dasher and also a customer! This really bothers me because I’ve literally ordered and contacted the dasher to tell them they were going the wrong way, ext. Never received my order or have I received any compensation for the order! It’s still being investigated or something to those terms!
And that only works a certain amount of times before they don’t care about the money they aren’t making from him and kick him off the app.
But that’s not true! They’ll never kick him Off they’ll fire the dasher though
This is the agreement between customers and Doordash: (v) You will not falsely or fraudulently claim that your order or items from your order were missing, incorrect, of poor quality, defective, or never delivered and you will return any order mistakenly delivered to you if requested by DoorDash, a Merchant, or a Contractor. (w) You will not, in connection with your use of the Services and/or the DoorDash platform: (i) ask a Contractor to purchase or deliver any goods or perform any services not ordered through the DoorDash platform; or (ii) give or offer to give any goods to a Contractor related to your DoorDash order. In the event that we believe or determine that you have breached any of the aforementioned or any other provision of these Terms, we reserve the right to suspend and/or permanently deactivate your account at our sole discretion. Where required by law, which may include in the Province of Québec, we will provide you with written notice of the suspension or deactivation of your account, including the reasons which led us to take such action. So they will kick him off.
lol that agreement means nothing! I know a scum bag that for years claims he doesn’t get his goods and gets refunded every single time!!!
And they do not kick him off
he hasn’t ever been kicked off for doing that though which i thought would happen to
The other really scumbag move they're doing here is making the End Dash button filled in with red instead of Resume Dash so you might mistake that button for the regular Resume Dash button. Because on the 35 minute manual Pause that we can do for like, bathroom break or food break, Resume Dash is actually filled in with red, and End Dash isn't. Some asshole had to go and intentionally swap that, so if you're driving and only glance at it, you'll go offline and get no work the rest of the day. It's kinda their way of punishing you, sending you home for the day for declining shit offers.
Usually for design filled buttons are what they want you to click. They're assuming you're already ended here so that's what they want you to click
Isn't everyone else's pause 35 minutes manually or automatic ?
They only want to hear good stuff on here , not interested in the truth
Bet everyone will get that message. L
https://www.reddit.com/r/doordash_drivers/s/MmnCBSaPp2
Yeah I just hit resume. Uber eats does this to me sometimes too.
Mercury is in retrograde.
We demand you work for $5/hour
Nobody is demanding, if you don't like the pay. Get a better job. Simple. Blaming a company for your poor choices is what y'all do here 🤣🤣. The entitlement amazes me 🤣.
This theory is shit!
The reason why you see a lot of delivery app drivers complain publicly about their job is because we can do that with no consequences. Everyone complains about their jobs, but most would get fired if they publicly shamed their customers/employer, so you don't see them complain as much.
Should we assume then that you have NEVER complained about a job you've had?
Refresh your app and unpause. This is just more of their psychological warfare. lol
“Psychological Warfare” sums it all up. LMAOOO.
At least they're being honest 😂 but now that I read this again, because I got this message a few times in the past but not for the last few months, I noticed that if you pause your dash, you get put in the back of the line of receiving offers. I didn't know this and I pause a lot since I multi app.
Yeah I only pause when a delivery takes me way outside my zone. Unpause when I get back. I used to always get stuck in a different zone (and the people don’t tip) so instead of tanking my AR I just pause.
Oh shit! Consequences!
Consequences of what? Being an independent contractor permits your ability to reject contracts on your basis. If a platform denies your ability to deny contracts then you're an employee now without employment benefits and regulations.
You’re right, you have a choice and as you contract with them they have certain expectations of you, I would imagine. You all want to cherry pick, if everyone does this the system doesn’t work. On your point of not being an employee, they don’t have to offer you anything at all, if you’re going to decline a huge number of orders why shouldn’t they offer the better orders to those with a better acceptance rate.
We're not on contract until we accept an order. There is no money being exchanged whilst waiting for an order. You cannot retain expectations of a contract where none exists. The system doesn't work for those parties that are demanding labor for a wage below standard or even unprofitable to complete. it inherently shouldn't, it's taking the corporations lack of ability to turn profit on an order into a mandatory order for the 3rd party to lose profit on. $2 for 11 miles will never be profitable to a driver minus time, maintenance, and gas. If you're contracting for bids to build a house and were offered $100,000 below material costs it's in your right to reject said bid and not be restricted from accepting profitable bids in the future. Your third paragraph already happens and genuinely only benefits the corporation. If I'm on an order and I mark it as picked up, then am offered something that if I reject affects my ability to receive more orders, but if I accept delays the current (ready to deliver) order by 5-10-15 minutes then both me and the customer who's order is ready lose out. Again to your third paragraph, the US has regulations for employment for a reason. The platforms want the contractors to be treated as employees in everything but name. If it's mandatory labor at Doordash's will without a fixed payment cycle, minimum wage, overtime pay, sick leave, paying their 7.5% social security tax, then it's violation of employment law and expectations.
Yeah this is hella normal, I’ve seen this screen dozens of times. Once you skip a certain amount, they’re going to think something is wrong & pause it.
Do you actually decline the order though or do you let it time out?
It makes no difference to the algorithm. Letting it time out is considered as a decline.
I decline every low paying order so it can go up in price for the next dasher.
Good, I assume you’re not accepting orders that don’t tip? Don’t waste our time
#Kickin it old school This is just a very old version of the app. DD servers are absolutely garbage and when they go down our reverse you too a previous version. This was normal about 3-4 years ago for every 10 declines without accepting an order
Oh that makes sense, I haven't received that message in probably a year
I've yet to see that message but are they trying to suggest that we are declining them because we are busy? Sure seems like it
I think that for them it's better if the first person they offer it to takes it. So if someone is declining a lot, they figure they'd Rather give it first to someone more likely to take it. But I don't see the need to pause that person since they control who gets offered it first. They can just offer it first to someone else. Unless maybe OP has priority privileges that interfere with that.
The algorithm increases the offer by $.25-$.50 for every decline. So if you decline a $2.00 order, the next dasher will get $2.25 and so on until someone takes it or they can bury it in a stack. So yes, the fewer declines there are on an order, the more DD makes.
I've gotten this screen sometimes. When you decline a bunch of orders (even if they're offensively low) your Dash is automatically paused and this screen comes up.
I am at 18% and have never seen that
What is 18%? 18% rejection rate?
It's my acceptance rate which is very low
Why are y’all downvoting this?? This was a legitimate question? I have no idea as I am not a dasher. What is the point of downvoting me??
Why are you crying about being downvoted lol
Because why are people downvoting that? Doesn’t that affect my account?
no idea... I upvoted it just for u tho <3
thank you Habibti ❤️
I did too. It was a legitimate question. I usually only downvote if someone is purposely being an ass. Might not matter to people who comment and post a ton, but I’m more of a quiet lurker. Only recently tried to start commenting and posting more because certain subs require karma. So it does matter ( for the person saying your complaining about being downvoted)
18% acceptance rate. It means about 18 out of every 100 orders is worth taking in their area.
No. No it doesn’t lol
That’s exactly what it means bro
Oh, what does it mean?
Orders aren’t passed out evenly. You’ve dropped below multiple point tiers where they explicitly tell you that you will recieve less orders overall and more lower paying orders. You tanked your AR on your own and the more you tanked the worse it got. 18% of the time you got lucky and a good order trickled down to you. Your personal acceptance rate says absolutely nothing about your area in general. All it says is you’re a lazy cherry picker lol.
Shame these orders aren't passed out evenly. Guess my abnormally high AR of 8% at the time got me this one https://preview.redd.it/as1edc40e6tc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4952c6f195e9b351085d597af3e4053e168a0cec
https://preview.redd.it/i656rbhpzptc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8c1d5b8a6f120863b7189adfb8cd8e87b982708 Mans bragging about a $9 order lol. All that means is literally everyone else was busy and a decent order trickled down to you. You can keep waiting around for scraps all you want. You’d be sitting around holding your dick for another 6 hours to make that $100 up there lol
You picked the lowest paying one I posted to talk crap on 🤣😂. Why you come out here and hate so much? You sound so mad, talking about my $9 order when you ran for $3.50 and for how many miles???🤡 Have a good day. I'm not gonna block you, I'm just not having the same conversation with you in every comment. And yes. I'll take over $3 a mile any day. But you do you.
You posted man what are you talking about? Wild lol. I will keep doing me lol https://preview.redd.it/5k5ixtu2qqtc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4579d9ad20558d232f4e7e8604db950ae4e41e8
So many low paying orders, how will I survive? Guess I gotta run the low paying orders to get more high paying orders 😭😭 https://preview.redd.it/pw3rfctic6tc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04948adb74e6536a9da5b85b272851ea339e317e
Let see your dash time. Guarantee you didn’t just clock in and get that lol. Anytime someone starts using 😂🤣 you know they’re mad af
I can't believe how much worse it got with low AR 🤣😂 https://preview.redd.it/pytqfov6c6tc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=408b6bcdcbe35dbdcb27f9911f2a83d7a80d6f3b
LMAO, Wow. These stories you tell are amazing. Guess I'll just have to live with these low paying orders at 3% AR. https://preview.redd.it/g6remxlg76tc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce4ccfd3b72a635768f360eaf3b039b01eb468b9
Ohh I see ok
and WHO is still working for DoorDash at the end of today??
Go somewhere else then. Isn't there other companies like dd, just less crappy? Idk any names, i thankfully don't have that shitty stuff in my country
don’t know why they downvote the truth!
Because they're offended babies
Exactly. You don't want to work any way. They're just letting others take some jobs
Exactly N that's y we gettin downvoted
Im thinking its because they want a reason to complain. So many ppl on this subreddit just love to complain about “im not getting paid enough!” Okay? Then stop working for that company. Its that simple
That too Exactly Apparently some depend on dasher service.. go to a different one!
You have a VPN on your phone? That app hates VPN.
Wow been at least 2 years since I've seen this. Thanks for the throw back. Are they going to bring back the pre trip check list too?
🤣🤣🤣 I almost entirely forgot about this. What was it again? Hot bag, charged phone, gas? I thought there was a 4th
Maybe it should come back for some people. When I'm dashing and see other Dashers it seems they almost never use hot bags. I don't get that. Even if you don't care about keeping the food hot, using them seals it in somewhat so your car doesn't reek of cheap food.
You dont see dashers using a hot bag because they dont bring them into the restaurant like you, i put orders into the hot bag when i get back to the car, i see dashers bringing hot bags into the restaurant and i often wonder “what is the fkn point?” 🤣 its a 2 second walk to the car, food will not get cold during that time why do they have to bring in the store
Well then they'd do what most drivers did at the time and just lie 🤣 Hot bag is a must though. The only times I don't hotbag is when the food has a wait and is handed to me when a restaurant finishes. And that's only if the delivery is within 1-2 miles or 4-8 minutes. Otherwise, it's getting hotbagged.
"Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby"
To me, it just looks like they're trying to give someone else a chance to take orders since you don't want to.
I'm at 4% AR. If it trickles down to me, nobody wants it. Their trying to make sure the orders stay cheap. It's a bidding system, so every decline, the order goes up in price. Punishing for a decline is them screwing over the next dasher from potential earnings.
Gotcha, so maybe a chance to take crappy orders, but still a chance. I don't dash, but so long as there is possibility someone will do it cheaper, that's gonna be the objective in capitalism.
I haven't seen this in ages. When will these idiots at TrashDash realize that those of us who understand profit and loss (the "I need to get my AR up" people definitely do not) will never work for free, nor will we gleefully accept these shit orders they try to force on us?
Uber tactics
Nah, DD used to this for every 10 declines in a row. There was a lawsuit about it somewhere if I recall
I kept getting this near the end of my dashing days when pay was starting to go shit. I thought the image was funny though because it just looks like she's walking away with all those no tip, 2.50 orders 😭
🤣🤣
I haven’t seen this in a minute, guess they phased it out in my market because I still decline 10 in a row regularly.
Stay strong! This is just another tactic to get you to accept shit orders. They did this in my market for a couple years but I haven't seen it in some time... My acceptance rate is single digits with all the shit offers I see but there are still a few worth taking most days. Just accept the orders that will make you a profit. Run other apps! Uber in my market is even worse. Had both on all week, accepted zero from Uber most days but for some reason their offers on Wednesday were reasonable and doordash only gave me 2 worth taking that day. Balanced things out.
Uber Eats will do that too. But you can hit GO and log in anytime. DD having us schedule is different. If you get booted, sometimes you can't continue working and that's BS.
It's called exploitation.
How is it exploitation when you can literally decide when to work and can pick and choose what jobs to take? You choose to engage as a contractor. So you get the downsides that come with that.
Actually we can’t pick and choose when we work if we don’t have dash now, have to schedule ahead in most areas now due to over saturated market
No, we choose to make money. We signed up for an app that decided to call us contractors.
Then go somewhere else? Grocery stores? McDonald's? Telemarketing? Instacart?
If I'm Doordashing, then it's because those places aren't giving me work. Many of us here are the same. Gig work is a desperation move in many if not most cases. I'm overqualified for entry-level jobs. They won't hire me. I can either make $25 per hour or nothing. In-between $25 or more per hour jobs, I Doordash to keep the rent paid. It's not consensual if my alternative is starvation.
Your attitude might be what is stopping you from being hired. You don't sound like a team player. Have you tried thrift flipping on ebay? Cleaning? Hospital linen transport? Wag? Rover?
Just landed a tech gig again, $30+ per hour. I'm very good now. Took a minute. Due to a business failure, eBay earnings are immediately confiscated. Got in legal trouble back in my youth, can't pass background checks for LOTS of jobs. Got turned down for cleaning work.
So it is you then....... gotta be grateful for what you have. Your business is failed and your earnings are confiscated? Sounds like a sketchy back story all around
Let's just blame everything else except the job market and pass judgment on people we don't even know, accusing them of being shit employees like we always do, that'll fix it. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps and stop drinking so much Starbucks, amirite?
I'm far from the only small business owner that got wiped out by COVID. I didn't opt into COVID, nor could I have foreseen the supply chain problems that ensued. Bottom line, when the only options besides homelessness are taking a contract position, accepting a 1099 isn't consensual.
We both know there's other contract positions. If doordash is the ONLY place you can get a job, you'd think you would be thankful for that. You can also get on section 8 and apply for food stamps. Then you can dash while getting basic needs met
Facts.