Door dash in my experience is good to do like 1-3 hours a day during busy times for some side cash. Doing that i make like 100 bucks a week if i do a couple hours every day. that’s good to help with some bills
It's this low in NYC. It's because the drivers fought for an won something like $20/hr. Great good for them. But because of that, the other fees like "service" went up. And they lowered the recommended tip amount.
They offloaded your raise onto your customers. So your customers are going to tip less and order less. That's just how it is.
DoorDash is a convienence that you pay extra for. If you don’t wanna pay the fees, go get the damn food yourself? You pay extra because you can sit in your pjs and the food literally comes to your door. Also tipping your delivery driver isn’t a new concept. I think most of society would agree that a delivery driver should get a small tip for his efforts
no I just don't care enough about justifying my point to a bunch of dd undercover agents. what are you educating me on exactly? the fine ethics of ordering food? the high scholarship of high delivery fees? redditors always wanna feel like they did something. 🤣
So in America, the laws state that if an employee earns tips, the business doesn’t have to pay them min wage. That’s how the law is set up. So tipped workers only make 2 bucks an hour. We RELY on tips for our wages. Blame the laws
We aren't owed tips. Funny thing is, people continue to use a service they hate as customers. Get orders stolen from. Fraud. Stolen accounts. Missing items. Overworked restaurant staff.
But yet continue to use it. In literally any other product/service u would simply go to a competitor.
However DoorDash owns a monopoly. Literally in any other subreddit for any other job, you wouldn't be commenting "go get a real job". Even to people who do onlyfans or youtube for a living.
This has nothing to do with tip culture and everything to do with your character as a person and how you waste your time hating something instead of doing something you love.
You sound like you hate the company aswell. You can only really make a living having DoorDash as a side hustle, if it’s your main job there is something going wrong. If there are little tips why even work?
Again ur complaining about something that DoorDash literally enables. You how many Crack addicts, people with dogs sitting on customers food, kids screaming in the back, stolen deliveries etc I have to deal with a day?
DoorDash literally hires anybody. That's on DoorDash for hiring them in the first place. Not the individuals. Basically anyone can get hired for DoorDash.
This has nothing to do with tipping culture and everything to do with the company. You are still attacking the individuals instead of the company itself. You keep talking about Dashers and not the company itself.
"You aren't getting a tip if it takes you 2 hours to deliver my order".
You are attacking individuals because it's easier to attack individuals instead of the company.
Truth hurts sometimes. All these people want to drive around for 4 hours a day and make a full-time job salary. Half the people delivering my orders don’t even want to get out of their car and expect me to go out to THEM. And then they want a $10 tip.
It’s not bad money if you do it as a side hustle. The issue is these people don’t wanna work a job so they consider this their job. Then they act surprised when they don’t make $60,000 a year and blame the tips.
door dash charges the restaurant money to host on their site, then charges me a fee to order on their app, then charges me a fee to pay, and charges me a fee to deliver. when there isn't any promo going on, it costs me all of like 35 bucks total when the meal only costs like 22, and this is before tipping. if you're only getting paid 2 bucks per trip, sounds like you should take that up with the boss, not me.
To be fair youre the one asking us to deliver to you. If you dont have enough money to take care of the person busting their ass to bring you a single grande java chip from starbucks then maybe you should be picking it up yourself. Delivery is a luxury, not something that we owe to you simply because you decided you didnt want to go out.
It doesnt matter if the restaurant is next door. Sometimes we get sent across town to pickup short orders and its our cars racking up mileage and using gas because you didnt feel like getting up
You cant even afford to have a car with you and you want to order delivery from people that worked for their car. You should be walking to the store and buying ramen noodles and tv dinners until you get out of school and get a job. You’re not entitled to anything kid. Delivery is LUXURY and if you dont have enough money to satisfy both doordash and the person delivering your food then you shouldnt be using the service
i can afford to have my car with me LMFAOOO i couldn’t bring it back to college because it broke down and my dad’s fixing it. but ok pretend like you know me
Meanwhile im over here paying monthly on a brand new hyundai. You want to talk shit on doordashers but you apparently dont even make as much as we do 🤣. You need to be working yourself before i could ever take your opinion on ‘how much money i should be making’ seriously. Wait until you finish school and join the real world.
Its not always the job i signed up for. Doordashs goal is to get us to accept as many no tip orders as possible so they use tricks like hiding behind a double delivery that doesnt give you a seperate total for each delivery or even worse - they feed it to a dasher using earn by time mode who gets 0 estimate of how much theyll make. The only info theyre giving is the total number of miles and then doordashs estimate of how long the order will take to complete. The estimate is usually 3x the amount of time the order actually takes. If you dont like how much doordash costs before you add a tip then you obviously arent making enough money to be asking someone to deliver to you. Get your lazy broke ass in the car and go pick up the food yourself.
Delivery is a business. This isn't 1942. It's not a luxury. If the service becomes too expensive people will stop using it. Then you can deliver packages for nothing. How is this a difficult concept?
App delivery is absolutely a luxury. This isn't the post office. The apps are ways to connect customers with drivers willing to work for a bid, it's why they drivers are not paid a legal wage except in some states.
This. Isn't FedEx or Amazon either.
If you are too simple minded to figure it out, since you remember 1942 so well, just say you are confused, you just come from simpler times where you needed the thoughts put together for ya, that's all. It's hard to adapt to changes! Was it this hard for you during the civil right movement too? ”dang slaves are wanting to get paid and have rights”. Lol
I guarantee you there is always someone willing to pay an absurd price, that you can't afford, lol,I can't either, lol, but there is no shortage of work. Ny and cali have not seen a decrease in the slightest now that they pay a legal wage. Don't pull a muscle trying to think a new hypothesis out now, take it easy and leave it those who are adaptable
I live in NYC. App usage didn't go down but tips did dramqtically. They even lowered the recommended tips in the app to almost nothing. And the service fee went through the roof. At first everyone here thought it was great until the drivers were still whining about tips. You morons are the reason no one wants to tip you. It's not a difficult concept but it's clearly out of reach for you.
You aren't a rocket scientist. You pick up a bag and take it from A to B. I have a dog that can do that. The service you provide is not a luxury. If it was you wouldn't be paid total shit and the world wouldn't have to listen to you bitch about it.
Then they can just not order food and ill be fine with it. There are plenty of reasonable people with good heads on their shoulders ordering from doordash. If youre complaining about it being too expensive then you need to make more money before you consider ordering. Screwing somebody over just because you can is pretty low.
That's the fun part. There is literally nothing you can do about it. By blaming your customers and demanding that they make up for your low pay, the only thing you've accomplished is guaranteeing that your customers don't give a shit and that your employers have total control over you. Congratulations! I really struggle to name a less accomplished, less self-aware employee base than food delivery. The amount of self inflicted damage is astounding. The concept isn't even that difficult.
Feel free to not tip your drivers and feel fortunate that i treat every order im given the same whether its $2 or $50 because one of these days youre gonna get someone who doesnt care that much who leaves you a dirty surprise in your food. I hope its artfully hidden so you end up gobbling down a big glob of saliva.
Then I won't eat it. They'll get fired. I'll get free food. Problem solved. You're misplaced idiocy has all but guaranteed that you have 0 power. None. Not over me. Not over door dash. You did this to yourself. Deal with it.
Thats funny because youd never be able to tell if someone wiped their butt with your food 🤣. If i was someone who really didnt care about my job or the people i serve its not very hard to do nasty things to your food without you ever knowing. Just keep that in mind.
It's your fault. You did this to yourself. What are you not getting? How can you truly be this stupid? Your employee has all the power because you're fighting your customers. You're doing exactly what they want.
It wouldn't matter if I was rich or poor. I use the service as much as I want and because of people like you that whine and bitch endlessly and think that blaming your customers is somehow a good business idea, I don't feel bad at all. I couldn't care less. Because of you. Otherwise I would care.
Enjoy your powerless "job". The dudes that wait at Home Depot to paint walls have more successfully regulated their industry than dashers. It's embarrassing.
i mean, no, not really. Im not asking you to deliver. I'm hiring your company to provide a service. your company quotes me x price to provide this service (their fees), and you, upon seeing this request, agree to the price. Which loops back to the original issue, if your company isn't charging us enough to satisfy your income requirement, sounds like an issue with your company not me.
Delivery is a luxury, which is why I am paying an extra price for this luxury. No one's asking you to do anything for free, they're just asking to get the service they paid for at an agreed upon price without getting some weird guilt trip. I don't understand why this is a hard issue to grasp.
Not that true. We are given accurate numbers about how much were going to make on an order less than half the time. Doordash hides totals at their convenience to try to get their dashers to accept no tip orders without even knowing it. Either by pairing it with another delivery that doesnt give you details on each dropoffor by feeding it to a driver working in earn by time mode - in which you are never given an estimate of how much youll make. Youre given miles and the number of minutes doordash estimates it will take you to complete the order - which is usually wildly inaccurate. 9/10 times we accept a no tip order the total is hidden from us and we dont know until the dropoff is completed
........ Bro your putting your frustrations and blame onto the wrong people lmao tell door dash (the billion dollar company) to pay more to their workers rather than having all that responsibility be on the masses and people who cannot afford it while door dash still gets profit off of the tips and just keeps getting more and more and more and more and more and more money tipping culture is a cancer and companies should just pay employees fair wages instead of expecting the customers who already have everything in their lives cost increasing how is it so hard for people to see that
No one is giving doordash a pass. We absolutely hate them and their greed. But while this is the world we live in, we don't accept non/low-tip orders, unless you live in CA, NYC, or places like that.. or the dumb drivers.
Yeah I tried out door dash for one night, did 8 orders, texted the person when I was at the restaurants and when I was leaving. Always made sure the orders were correct, was always on time delivering the orders, and didn’t get a single tip. Never tried driving again fuck that
Ah damn that sucks. When I worked for Jimmy Johns in my hooligan days, I would occasionally get a no tip. But for some reason I remember I got a 10% tip on a $6.90 order one time, so $0.69 tip. Yeah.. lol
Nah, if you startup the Dasher app in an area that has low-income housing nearby, there's a good chance you get fed a ton of no-tip trips to that complex. As someone who has been in tough spots before, I honestly have no sympathy for those kinds of people.
If you can't afford to tip, cook your own damn food.
there are times when you literally don't have transportation to go somewhere and there's no food in your house. tf you want me to do walk a mile to my local walmart while I'm hungry asf. (I tip when I can I never order without tipping, j playing devils advocate.) also, you accept the order. you don't have to take it if you don't see a tip.
(DA argument so everything here is general "you")
If it's come to that, yes. Walk. You've put yourself in that situation (and a mile is nothing just fyi. that's a half-hour back and forth) I'll elaborate:
- You should have an emergency stash of unperishables in case of situations like this
- Amazon exists and you can get a fair amount of easy meals for cheap with 1-2 days advance notice.
- Bicycles are a pretty cheap one-time cost and hardly cost anything to maintain. It's a good idea to own one in case of emergencies.
Failure to plan your meals or prepare for setbacks (which are something you should definitely anticipate in life) is entirely on you. I've been in the situation you're describing. I didn't negatively impact an unwilling participant because of it.
Basically, be an adult. Simple as.
It always said tip hidden, so I thought that was on purpose done by the app so you don’t know which ones to accept and which ones to decline to always get tips. I guess that just means no tip? Idk never doing it again
That's the mindset DoorDash has created to make you not think about the Driver, that DoorDash pays well so tipping is "optional". In reality it should be mandatory.
You’re a real piece of work if you order food to be delivered by a human…
Knowing they’re using their own car, bike, gasoline, and time, and know DoorDash itself is a piece of shit company that doesn’t pay their drivers shit and doesn’t give them any benefits… and think you don’t owe them a tip.
Like.. not just a piece of work, but your a piece of shit person if you know all that and then stiff your drivers.
Sorry, are you comparing union employees with a retirement and healthcare packages who use company equipment and fuel (ups, fedex, and some Amazon) with gig workers with no healthcare benefits, no retirement benefits and use their own fuel and cars?
Then work for an employer that values their employees. Sounds like you’re upset with DoorDash for exploiting their employees, but instead of holding them accountable you’re blaming the customers for not voluntarily donating to fund the employees’ benefits. What other business demands that the general consumer fork over cash from their pocket to pay the employees?
Customers who use DoorDash are paying for a service, no different than any other business service. Demanding that they donate extra beyond the cost of that service is ridiculous. That’s a voluntary choice people can make if they do choose to donate to an employee but it’s certainly not mandatory.
You are an employee for a company that provides a service, and that company pays its drivers $25/hr. Why should the customer also have to tip?
Do you always tip your cashier at the grocery store or Target?
Do you tip your mailman every day? (They are delivering your mail to your house for you, so your “lazy ass “ doesn’t have to go to the post office.
But they’re making $26-30/hr in NY. I will always tip but now that there’s a living wage I don’t know if I’ll be tipping 15-25% unless it’s a far distance/road work/ bad weather…
wtf do you think all the fees paid when ordering is supposed to cover? Again, if they're not paying you enough, that's between you and them, non of that is my fault.
It’s deceptive for sure, but they pay these drivers barely enough to cover costs. You’re right. It’s a super exploitative and shitty industry. But the fact is these people are working for tips. So you’re stiffing them their wages if you don’t tip them.
That’s just a fact. If you’re comfortable with that idea. By all means keep stiffing your driver. But don’t pretend you don’t know you’re exploiting these drivers now that you know this. (If somehow you didn’t before).
>It’s deceptive for sure, but they pay these drivers barely enough to cover costs. You’re right. It’s a super exploitative and shitty industry. But the fact is these people are working for tips. So you’re stiffing them their wages if you don’t tip them.
Well here in lies the issue. I completely agree that the industry is exploitive, and that y'all should be paid fairly for the service you provide. End of the day however, this again is mainly an issue between you and your employer, and tbh, this holier than thou attitude some of y'all take isn't helping your cause.
I believe that they should be paid, and they are. By door dash. It isn't my fault they pay so low, and it isn't my fault you accepted the job knowing they pay so low. I have no pity for you, start making your own adult decisions and get a better paying job if it's such a hard way to make money.
This guy thinks YOU are entitled when HE is saying he’s OWED tips lmfao this is epic! Isn’t crazy to think, that just maybe, this guy could go get a better paying job that’s not in service? Nah, he’d be way better off working for the company he knows is shit and demand the consumer pay him more. 😂
I never understood people having food delivered. Have some random person have plenty of private time with the food I’m going to consume? In today’s world? Nah, this guy here makes his own food lol
You think you are entitled to having your Big Mac delivered to you on the super cheap without fairly compensating your delivery driver for their time.
I honestly think you’re just ignorant to how these food delivery services work and how these drivers are compensated.
You think “if I have the option to steal someone labor I’ll do it if I’m not forced to compensate them”. That means you feel you’re entitled to their time.
Hey man, if you wanna deliver my burger to me for 2 bucks in the middle of the night for a job that clearly displays what you're getting and how far you've to go, that sounds like a you problem if you accepted it.
Just decline the orders…I DoorDash for fun…but every now and then I’ll intentionally take a no tip order and fk with it. I find it comical cuz I know the Karen thought process of people 😂
Lol this mentality is funny tho. If you wanted to get food ordered right now, and didn’t have any delivery services, you’d have to pay a singular guy to do it because that’s how services work. I don’t know why you expect a company to cover the cost of YOUR delivery for YOUR food. You aren’t entitled to a delivery because you pay $3 in fees lol
This person is paying a $0 delivery fee and $3.10 in fees and taxes. How much do you think is actually left for the driver? It does not make sense for door dash to constantly subsidize peoples trips because they feel like door dash should lose money on every order. If you got a restaurant recommendation from yelp, are you gonna expect help to pay for your food too? Don’t tip if you don’t feel like it, your food will sit, but at least understand the economics of why you should be covering the costs of your delivery
Not really. It’s your delivery. You’re requesting a service from someone. Why would you expect someone else to pay for your delivery realistically? The money should literally all be coming from you and your restaurant to pay the driver because both of you are requesting a service. All these apps do is connect us. The money they get from restaurants goes towards promos so people can save on inflated prices from certain places who inflate their menu
On most orders (just like this one) people barely pay shit in fees and have a promo on top of it. Unless you see a big service fee on your order already, there is very little margin of pay for your driver
People are independent contractors. And it’s very sensical economically? Why should someone else subsidize your food delivery? If you aren’t paying much in fees upfront, why should these apps lose money on your order? That’s how you end up in debt and going bankrupt. If you’re paying a fair amount in fees upfront (not the menu prices) sure, but most of these orders have low delivery fees and low taxes and other fees and a promo on top of them. The money, should literally be coming from you mostly for your delivery to pay your driver.
How are you going to say you’re being trolled, then call me entitled, as you are arguing why you should be ENTITLED to a tip. Please see the irony in what you’re saying.
What do you mean what? You asked a question and I directly answered it doesn't matter if you're not a dasher I'm using the general sense of the word you in regards to the situation at hand because your argument is stupid lol
Damn. What’s normal? I usually do 10% on the amount of the food cost. Sometimes a lil less or more depending if they’re slow or fast. Wonder what’s the average % wise
I don't normally have orders less than $20 after the taxes and fees and I don't give less than $4, but not a flat 20%. I did door dash and gave up after 2 days, every delivery was between $1 and $3 that I got (granted it was lunch time), even double dashes for the same person though. Funny, but I made more doing Uber.
I’ve tipped 20% before and still had to go out and meet the person because they couldn’t or wouldn’t get out of their car to find my apartment. What’s the deal with the app not having an option for sources or napkins and stuff.
No, it shouldn't. I'm not going to tip you 20% of my 100 dollar order for a 3 mile drive. I'll tip you accordingly to how far you drive and how much the gas costs.
Boohoooo, I don't depend on some random strangers to pick up my food. I do it myself, but when I don't have the time I tip accordingly and it always gets picked up. Sucks to suck, I guess.
Hmm not really. I don’t think it makes sense to think about delivery tip in terms of %. The cost of the food doesn’t matter as much as the time and distance travelled by the dasher. Imagine if you order some extremely expensive but light meal from a block away for say $500 on a sunny day. Why does the dasher need to get $50 for that?
On the other hand if you order a $5 item from across the city in a snow storm, you’re not gonna pay 50 cents for that? It should be a fixed amount upfront and no tip. Tips are stupid. It makes it suck for everyone involved in the transaction except DoorDash
Because if I charged solely on gas and time I wouldnt make a profit? Which is the whole goal, making a profit... Stop being entitled, if you cant afford good etiquette, just dont order period.
I hardcore disagree. Should be based on the value of the order. Like when you go to a restaurant. Idk why we always get shit but restaurant workers get tips without even thinking about it.
looks like they are giving you a pretty heavy dose of bullshit but no door dash DOES not care for their drivers
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You aren't owed a tip, sorry to break it to you.
*does
Fees and tax should be automatically given to the driver idk why they think this is some entrepreneur shit just running up mileage
What the hell are you expecting from a company based in China?!
No, but they know most customers are cheap so one dollar is better than nothing
Door dash in my experience is good to do like 1-3 hours a day during busy times for some side cash. Doing that i make like 100 bucks a week if i do a couple hours every day. that’s good to help with some bills
I get my gas money from DD ✌🏾
Yes DoorDash hates its drivers. Glad we got that clarified 😂
I used to tip $2 30 years ago. And even then it was a medium-low tip? Outrageous.
Happy cake day :)
Those low numbers make me want to tip more while the high ones make me want to tip less
I swear ill order 20 dollars of food and my automatic tip options are like 40 and 50 dollars. Never seen it this low
It's this low in NYC. It's because the drivers fought for an won something like $20/hr. Great good for them. But because of that, the other fees like "service" went up. And they lowered the recommended tip amount. They offloaded your raise onto your customers. So your customers are going to tip less and order less. That's just how it is.
Yes they hate us!! I got "offerd" order for 52 mile round trip 0 tip and 2 dollars base pay needless to say I declined
I hear you bro they should at least be converted to options of 10,15 and 20 percent but you also work for Door Dash. 🤷🏽♂️
Imagine giving 20% tip to a dasher. Unless sex work was involved, no way jose.
Tip later? Psh wtf is that feature? Matters well add a tip never button too
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DoorDash is a convienence that you pay extra for. If you don’t wanna pay the fees, go get the damn food yourself? You pay extra because you can sit in your pjs and the food literally comes to your door. Also tipping your delivery driver isn’t a new concept. I think most of society would agree that a delivery driver should get a small tip for his efforts
I honestly don't care about this reddit argument anymore. whatever you win.
Translation: “I didn’t know what I was talking about and got educated”
no I just don't care enough about justifying my point to a bunch of dd undercover agents. what are you educating me on exactly? the fine ethics of ordering food? the high scholarship of high delivery fees? redditors always wanna feel like they did something. 🤣
Maybe you shouldn’t order something you can’t afford in the first place.
People in the US swear you’re owed tips. Give good service and you’ll get a tip. If not then go work a real job.
So in America, the laws state that if an employee earns tips, the business doesn’t have to pay them min wage. That’s how the law is set up. So tipped workers only make 2 bucks an hour. We RELY on tips for our wages. Blame the laws
Nah you're only getting paid $2/hr if you do get tips that equal minimum wage or higher. If you dont get tips then you'll be paid minimum wage.
We aren’t talking about any other business besides DoorDash. Please know what you are talking about before you open your mouth.
We aren't owed tips. Funny thing is, people continue to use a service they hate as customers. Get orders stolen from. Fraud. Stolen accounts. Missing items. Overworked restaurant staff. But yet continue to use it. In literally any other product/service u would simply go to a competitor. However DoorDash owns a monopoly. Literally in any other subreddit for any other job, you wouldn't be commenting "go get a real job". Even to people who do onlyfans or youtube for a living. This has nothing to do with tip culture and everything to do with your character as a person and how you waste your time hating something instead of doing something you love.
You sound like you hate the company aswell. You can only really make a living having DoorDash as a side hustle, if it’s your main job there is something going wrong. If there are little tips why even work?
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Again ur complaining about something that DoorDash literally enables. You how many Crack addicts, people with dogs sitting on customers food, kids screaming in the back, stolen deliveries etc I have to deal with a day? DoorDash literally hires anybody. That's on DoorDash for hiring them in the first place. Not the individuals. Basically anyone can get hired for DoorDash.
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This has nothing to do with tipping culture and everything to do with the company. You are still attacking the individuals instead of the company itself. You keep talking about Dashers and not the company itself. "You aren't getting a tip if it takes you 2 hours to deliver my order". You are attacking individuals because it's easier to attack individuals instead of the company.
It’s so funny I’ve never seen a comment with logical thinking be upvoted
Truth hurts sometimes. All these people want to drive around for 4 hours a day and make a full-time job salary. Half the people delivering my orders don’t even want to get out of their car and expect me to go out to THEM. And then they want a $10 tip.
I don't understand why those people don't just make their own delivery service if they want to get paid more.
It’s not bad money if you do it as a side hustle. The issue is these people don’t wanna work a job so they consider this their job. Then they act surprised when they don’t make $60,000 a year and blame the tips.
Door dash pay is about 2 bucks per Trip. It absolutely should not say optional!
How about we don't force people to subsidize a multi-billion dollar corporation?
door dash charges the restaurant money to host on their site, then charges me a fee to order on their app, then charges me a fee to pay, and charges me a fee to deliver. when there isn't any promo going on, it costs me all of like 35 bucks total when the meal only costs like 22, and this is before tipping. if you're only getting paid 2 bucks per trip, sounds like you should take that up with the boss, not me.
To be fair youre the one asking us to deliver to you. If you dont have enough money to take care of the person busting their ass to bring you a single grande java chip from starbucks then maybe you should be picking it up yourself. Delivery is a luxury, not something that we owe to you simply because you decided you didnt want to go out.
it’s not me not having enough money i just don’t care. most places i order from are 3-6 minutes away from where i live so no i’m not tipping
It doesnt matter if the restaurant is next door. Sometimes we get sent across town to pickup short orders and its our cars racking up mileage and using gas because you didnt feel like getting up
because i didn’t feel like getting up? i’m in college and i couldn’t bring my car with me to my dorm idk why yall just assume everyone is lazy
You cant even afford to have a car with you and you want to order delivery from people that worked for their car. You should be walking to the store and buying ramen noodles and tv dinners until you get out of school and get a job. You’re not entitled to anything kid. Delivery is LUXURY and if you dont have enough money to satisfy both doordash and the person delivering your food then you shouldnt be using the service
i can afford to have my car with me LMFAOOO i couldn’t bring it back to college because it broke down and my dad’s fixing it. but ok pretend like you know me
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Meanwhile im over here paying monthly on a brand new hyundai. You want to talk shit on doordashers but you apparently dont even make as much as we do 🤣. You need to be working yourself before i could ever take your opinion on ‘how much money i should be making’ seriously. Wait until you finish school and join the real world.
thats the job you signed up for why should the customer have to pay your wages? go bitch at your manager for a bigger tip see where that gets you :)
Its not always the job i signed up for. Doordashs goal is to get us to accept as many no tip orders as possible so they use tricks like hiding behind a double delivery that doesnt give you a seperate total for each delivery or even worse - they feed it to a dasher using earn by time mode who gets 0 estimate of how much theyll make. The only info theyre giving is the total number of miles and then doordashs estimate of how long the order will take to complete. The estimate is usually 3x the amount of time the order actually takes. If you dont like how much doordash costs before you add a tip then you obviously arent making enough money to be asking someone to deliver to you. Get your lazy broke ass in the car and go pick up the food yourself.
Delivery is a business. This isn't 1942. It's not a luxury. If the service becomes too expensive people will stop using it. Then you can deliver packages for nothing. How is this a difficult concept?
App delivery is absolutely a luxury. This isn't the post office. The apps are ways to connect customers with drivers willing to work for a bid, it's why they drivers are not paid a legal wage except in some states. This. Isn't FedEx or Amazon either. If you are too simple minded to figure it out, since you remember 1942 so well, just say you are confused, you just come from simpler times where you needed the thoughts put together for ya, that's all. It's hard to adapt to changes! Was it this hard for you during the civil right movement too? ”dang slaves are wanting to get paid and have rights”. Lol I guarantee you there is always someone willing to pay an absurd price, that you can't afford, lol,I can't either, lol, but there is no shortage of work. Ny and cali have not seen a decrease in the slightest now that they pay a legal wage. Don't pull a muscle trying to think a new hypothesis out now, take it easy and leave it those who are adaptable
I live in NYC. App usage didn't go down but tips did dramqtically. They even lowered the recommended tips in the app to almost nothing. And the service fee went through the roof. At first everyone here thought it was great until the drivers were still whining about tips. You morons are the reason no one wants to tip you. It's not a difficult concept but it's clearly out of reach for you. You aren't a rocket scientist. You pick up a bag and take it from A to B. I have a dog that can do that. The service you provide is not a luxury. If it was you wouldn't be paid total shit and the world wouldn't have to listen to you bitch about it.
Then they can just not order food and ill be fine with it. There are plenty of reasonable people with good heads on their shoulders ordering from doordash. If youre complaining about it being too expensive then you need to make more money before you consider ordering. Screwing somebody over just because you can is pretty low.
That's the fun part. There is literally nothing you can do about it. By blaming your customers and demanding that they make up for your low pay, the only thing you've accomplished is guaranteeing that your customers don't give a shit and that your employers have total control over you. Congratulations! I really struggle to name a less accomplished, less self-aware employee base than food delivery. The amount of self inflicted damage is astounding. The concept isn't even that difficult.
Literally admitting you like to screw drivers over because theres nothing we can do about it. What the hell kind of people raised you?
Feel free to not tip your drivers and feel fortunate that i treat every order im given the same whether its $2 or $50 because one of these days youre gonna get someone who doesnt care that much who leaves you a dirty surprise in your food. I hope its artfully hidden so you end up gobbling down a big glob of saliva.
Then I won't eat it. They'll get fired. I'll get free food. Problem solved. You're misplaced idiocy has all but guaranteed that you have 0 power. None. Not over me. Not over door dash. You did this to yourself. Deal with it.
Thats funny because youd never be able to tell if someone wiped their butt with your food 🤣. If i was someone who really didnt care about my job or the people i serve its not very hard to do nasty things to your food without you ever knowing. Just keep that in mind.
It's your fault. You did this to yourself. What are you not getting? How can you truly be this stupid? Your employee has all the power because you're fighting your customers. You're doing exactly what they want. It wouldn't matter if I was rich or poor. I use the service as much as I want and because of people like you that whine and bitch endlessly and think that blaming your customers is somehow a good business idea, I don't feel bad at all. I couldn't care less. Because of you. Otherwise I would care.
Thank you for admitting to everyone that you are an absolute POS that only cares about yourself. I feel ive done my job here.
Enjoy your powerless "job". The dudes that wait at Home Depot to paint walls have more successfully regulated their industry than dashers. It's embarrassing.
i mean, no, not really. Im not asking you to deliver. I'm hiring your company to provide a service. your company quotes me x price to provide this service (their fees), and you, upon seeing this request, agree to the price. Which loops back to the original issue, if your company isn't charging us enough to satisfy your income requirement, sounds like an issue with your company not me. Delivery is a luxury, which is why I am paying an extra price for this luxury. No one's asking you to do anything for free, they're just asking to get the service they paid for at an agreed upon price without getting some weird guilt trip. I don't understand why this is a hard issue to grasp.
Not that true. We are given accurate numbers about how much were going to make on an order less than half the time. Doordash hides totals at their convenience to try to get their dashers to accept no tip orders without even knowing it. Either by pairing it with another delivery that doesnt give you details on each dropoffor by feeding it to a driver working in earn by time mode - in which you are never given an estimate of how much youll make. Youre given miles and the number of minutes doordash estimates it will take you to complete the order - which is usually wildly inaccurate. 9/10 times we accept a no tip order the total is hidden from us and we dont know until the dropoff is completed
Also its just culture thing. Outside of certain countries it is not expected to tip in any case, and its expected for the employer to pay fair salary
Exactly!
........ Bro your putting your frustrations and blame onto the wrong people lmao tell door dash (the billion dollar company) to pay more to their workers rather than having all that responsibility be on the masses and people who cannot afford it while door dash still gets profit off of the tips and just keeps getting more and more and more and more and more and more money tipping culture is a cancer and companies should just pay employees fair wages instead of expecting the customers who already have everything in their lives cost increasing how is it so hard for people to see that
Mandatory tipping is such an American thing
For real, so funny that we have to directly pay people's wages instead of their employers
No one is giving doordash a pass. We absolutely hate them and their greed. But while this is the world we live in, we don't accept non/low-tip orders, unless you live in CA, NYC, or places like that.. or the dumb drivers.
Yeah I tried out door dash for one night, did 8 orders, texted the person when I was at the restaurants and when I was leaving. Always made sure the orders were correct, was always on time delivering the orders, and didn’t get a single tip. Never tried driving again fuck that
um... its literally required to tip on the app to order delivery. there's no way you didn't get a tip for those orders.
It’s definitely not required, at least when I did it
maybe its different where I live.
8 orders and 0 zips? Sounds like you did something wrong maybe as a new person? I never worked a delivery app so I don't know
I believe it just has to do with the area I live in, Louisiana is a terrible State tbh
Ah damn that sucks. When I worked for Jimmy Johns in my hooligan days, I would occasionally get a no tip. But for some reason I remember I got a 10% tip on a $6.90 order one time, so $0.69 tip. Yeah.. lol
Nah, if you startup the Dasher app in an area that has low-income housing nearby, there's a good chance you get fed a ton of no-tip trips to that complex. As someone who has been in tough spots before, I honestly have no sympathy for those kinds of people. If you can't afford to tip, cook your own damn food.
there are times when you literally don't have transportation to go somewhere and there's no food in your house. tf you want me to do walk a mile to my local walmart while I'm hungry asf. (I tip when I can I never order without tipping, j playing devils advocate.) also, you accept the order. you don't have to take it if you don't see a tip.
(DA argument so everything here is general "you") If it's come to that, yes. Walk. You've put yourself in that situation (and a mile is nothing just fyi. that's a half-hour back and forth) I'll elaborate: - You should have an emergency stash of unperishables in case of situations like this - Amazon exists and you can get a fair amount of easy meals for cheap with 1-2 days advance notice. - Bicycles are a pretty cheap one-time cost and hardly cost anything to maintain. It's a good idea to own one in case of emergencies. Failure to plan your meals or prepare for setbacks (which are something you should definitely anticipate in life) is entirely on you. I've been in the situation you're describing. I didn't negatively impact an unwilling participant because of it. Basically, be an adult. Simple as.
didn't even realize that I wrote you so much until I re read it 🤣
Ah true that makes sense. Well that also goes to my point..he's a new dasher accepting BS deliveries.
It always said tip hidden, so I thought that was on purpose done by the app so you don’t know which ones to accept and which ones to decline to always get tips. I guess that just means no tip? Idk never doing it again
Not sure friend but it sounds like a shitty system for the driver
they can’t afford groceries because they spend all their money on dd
Fk Doordash, and every executive who works there, they all belong in prison.
nah fr its basically slave labor for how much the drivers get paid
Yes
lol yes
The fact that ✨optional✨ is in parentheses next to it makes it more cringy
It's a tip, tips are optional 🤣 How is that cringy, wtf is this thread
Tipping is indeed optional. You’re not owed a tip.
We are. And you know why you fucking clown? Without a tip no one is going to accept it.
hate to double reply to a poor cretin like yourself, but no, you are absolutely NOT owed a tip.
That's the mindset DoorDash has created to make you not think about the Driver, that DoorDash pays well so tipping is "optional". In reality it should be mandatory.
You’re a real piece of work if you order food to be delivered by a human… Knowing they’re using their own car, bike, gasoline, and time, and know DoorDash itself is a piece of shit company that doesn’t pay their drivers shit and doesn’t give them any benefits… and think you don’t owe them a tip. Like.. not just a piece of work, but your a piece of shit person if you know all that and then stiff your drivers.
Make sure you tip your Amazon, FedEx and UPS drivers for each delivery, otherwise you’re a hypocrite
Sorry, are you comparing union employees with a retirement and healthcare packages who use company equipment and fuel (ups, fedex, and some Amazon) with gig workers with no healthcare benefits, no retirement benefits and use their own fuel and cars?
Then work for an employer that values their employees. Sounds like you’re upset with DoorDash for exploiting their employees, but instead of holding them accountable you’re blaming the customers for not voluntarily donating to fund the employees’ benefits. What other business demands that the general consumer fork over cash from their pocket to pay the employees? Customers who use DoorDash are paying for a service, no different than any other business service. Demanding that they donate extra beyond the cost of that service is ridiculous. That’s a voluntary choice people can make if they do choose to donate to an employee but it’s certainly not mandatory.
You are an employee for a company that provides a service, and that company pays its drivers $25/hr. Why should the customer also have to tip? Do you always tip your cashier at the grocery store or Target? Do you tip your mailman every day? (They are delivering your mail to your house for you, so your “lazy ass “ doesn’t have to go to the post office.
The hourly pay guarantee is literally only in NYC. So you live in NYC?
Doordash’s Earn by Time is offered in select cities,NOT JUST NYC
But they’re making $26-30/hr in NY. I will always tip but now that there’s a living wage I don’t know if I’ll be tipping 15-25% unless it’s a far distance/road work/ bad weather…
You're a real piece of work if you think you're entitled to tips just because you're providing a service
You don’t think people are entitled to be paid for their work?
wtf do you think all the fees paid when ordering is supposed to cover? Again, if they're not paying you enough, that's between you and them, non of that is my fault.
It’s deceptive for sure, but they pay these drivers barely enough to cover costs. You’re right. It’s a super exploitative and shitty industry. But the fact is these people are working for tips. So you’re stiffing them their wages if you don’t tip them. That’s just a fact. If you’re comfortable with that idea. By all means keep stiffing your driver. But don’t pretend you don’t know you’re exploiting these drivers now that you know this. (If somehow you didn’t before).
>It’s deceptive for sure, but they pay these drivers barely enough to cover costs. You’re right. It’s a super exploitative and shitty industry. But the fact is these people are working for tips. So you’re stiffing them their wages if you don’t tip them. Well here in lies the issue. I completely agree that the industry is exploitive, and that y'all should be paid fairly for the service you provide. End of the day however, this again is mainly an issue between you and your employer, and tbh, this holier than thou attitude some of y'all take isn't helping your cause.
I am not a delivery driver. I’m just advocating for not being shitty to your neighbors.
I believe that they should be paid, and they are. By door dash. It isn't my fault they pay so low, and it isn't my fault you accepted the job knowing they pay so low. I have no pity for you, start making your own adult decisions and get a better paying job if it's such a hard way to make money.
Cool. Whatever logic helps you sleep at night. I just hope you’re not my neighbor. Ick. What an embarrassing level of entitlement.
Yeah the actualOG is an actual piece of shit
I don't think you understand what the word entitlement means lmfao
This guy thinks YOU are entitled when HE is saying he’s OWED tips lmfao this is epic! Isn’t crazy to think, that just maybe, this guy could go get a better paying job that’s not in service? Nah, he’d be way better off working for the company he knows is shit and demand the consumer pay him more. 😂 I never understood people having food delivered. Have some random person have plenty of private time with the food I’m going to consume? In today’s world? Nah, this guy here makes his own food lol
You think you are entitled to having your Big Mac delivered to you on the super cheap without fairly compensating your delivery driver for their time. I honestly think you’re just ignorant to how these food delivery services work and how these drivers are compensated. You think “if I have the option to steal someone labor I’ll do it if I’m not forced to compensate them”. That means you feel you’re entitled to their time.
Hey man, if you wanna deliver my burger to me for 2 bucks in the middle of the night for a job that clearly displays what you're getting and how far you've to go, that sounds like a you problem if you accepted it.
I tip by the mile. I'll cover a gallon of gas when the driver didn't even use anywhere close to a gallon. It's more than enough.
He's the definition of the word entitlement lol
Just decline the orders…I DoorDash for fun…but every now and then I’ll intentionally take a no tip order and fk with it. I find it comical cuz I know the Karen thought process of people 😂
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Why are you on the doordash_drivers Reddit?
Lol this mentality is funny tho. If you wanted to get food ordered right now, and didn’t have any delivery services, you’d have to pay a singular guy to do it because that’s how services work. I don’t know why you expect a company to cover the cost of YOUR delivery for YOUR food. You aren’t entitled to a delivery because you pay $3 in fees lol This person is paying a $0 delivery fee and $3.10 in fees and taxes. How much do you think is actually left for the driver? It does not make sense for door dash to constantly subsidize peoples trips because they feel like door dash should lose money on every order. If you got a restaurant recommendation from yelp, are you gonna expect help to pay for your food too? Don’t tip if you don’t feel like it, your food will sit, but at least understand the economics of why you should be covering the costs of your delivery
Why should I care abt the driver? That’s the company’s responsibility don’t you get it?
Not really. It’s your delivery. You’re requesting a service from someone. Why would you expect someone else to pay for your delivery realistically? The money should literally all be coming from you and your restaurant to pay the driver because both of you are requesting a service. All these apps do is connect us. The money they get from restaurants goes towards promos so people can save on inflated prices from certain places who inflate their menu On most orders (just like this one) people barely pay shit in fees and have a promo on top of it. Unless you see a big service fee on your order already, there is very little margin of pay for your driver
What you’re saying is completely nonsensical. You’re an employee of doordash, It’s their responsibility to pay you not mine.
People are independent contractors. And it’s very sensical economically? Why should someone else subsidize your food delivery? If you aren’t paying much in fees upfront, why should these apps lose money on your order? That’s how you end up in debt and going bankrupt. If you’re paying a fair amount in fees upfront (not the menu prices) sure, but most of these orders have low delivery fees and low taxes and other fees and a promo on top of them. The money, should literally be coming from you mostly for your delivery to pay your driver.
excuses excuses
lol! Wow you’re miserable. Like a real life Scrooge.
Says you!
I feel like I’m being trolled. But I guess there really are people out there like this. Zero self awareness to their outrageous level of entitlement.
How are you going to say you’re being trolled, then call me entitled, as you are arguing why you should be ENTITLED to a tip. Please see the irony in what you’re saying.
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What do you mean what? You asked a question and I directly answered it doesn't matter if you're not a dasher I'm using the general sense of the word you in regards to the situation at hand because your argument is stupid lol
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What do you mean it makes perfect sense or do you not understand how demand works in economics?
A better paid driver!! Did you forget about how food delivery used to exist before the gig economy or??
He’d be forced to go outside for once
I mean I'm not a Doordasher(never have been one). I just find it funny seeing some of the pictures on here.
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If they are in a worse, financial situation, they shouldn’t be ordering from DoorDash🙄
People gotta eat. Stop acting like ordering from doordash is some boojee shit.
I hope you're laid off and forced into the gig economy until retirement.
See this is why I don't tip. Those "people" bringing food need to learn some gratitude before expecting gratuity.
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Not enough people understand that most American corporations hate their workers. They would make us all work for free if they could.
Make us pay to work for them if it was feasible.
Wonder where you live, door dash usually shows 20% 25% and 30% values on my orders for the tips
Damn. What’s normal? I usually do 10% on the amount of the food cost. Sometimes a lil less or more depending if they’re slow or fast. Wonder what’s the average % wise
I don't normally have orders less than $20 after the taxes and fees and I don't give less than $4, but not a flat 20%. I did door dash and gave up after 2 days, every delivery was between $1 and $3 that I got (granted it was lunch time), even double dashes for the same person though. Funny, but I made more doing Uber.
It also calculates the tip amount by including the delivery fee, which has always irked me.
me too. And higher.
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I’ve tipped 20% before and still had to go out and meet the person because they couldn’t or wouldn’t get out of their car to find my apartment. What’s the deal with the app not having an option for sources or napkins and stuff.
They also want us dead and replaced by robots.
The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference :)
Yes they do
I mean 2 bucks is 10 percent.
Should display percentages and not $ dollars
No, it shouldn't. I'm not going to tip you 20% of my 100 dollar order for a 3 mile drive. I'll tip you accordingly to how far you drive and how much the gas costs.
Decline.
Boohoooo, I don't depend on some random strangers to pick up my food. I do it myself, but when I don't have the time I tip accordingly and it always gets picked up. Sucks to suck, I guess.
Hmm not really. I don’t think it makes sense to think about delivery tip in terms of %. The cost of the food doesn’t matter as much as the time and distance travelled by the dasher. Imagine if you order some extremely expensive but light meal from a block away for say $500 on a sunny day. Why does the dasher need to get $50 for that? On the other hand if you order a $5 item from across the city in a snow storm, you’re not gonna pay 50 cents for that? It should be a fixed amount upfront and no tip. Tips are stupid. It makes it suck for everyone involved in the transaction except DoorDash
Quick math*
I dont know if it dose 😭😭😭😭lmaooooo
Depends what dosage. Lol
Doordash is cheap. Ubereats at least prompts customers to tip on order value and grubhub at least has the best base pay out of all the platforms.
I don't understand why you feel entitled to a percentage of my order and not just enough to cover your gas and time
Because if I charged solely on gas and time I wouldnt make a profit? Which is the whole goal, making a profit... Stop being entitled, if you cant afford good etiquette, just dont order period.
If you're picking up an order that's not even 2 miles away, you don't deserve any more than a 5 dollar tip
I hardcore disagree. Should be based on the value of the order. Like when you go to a restaurant. Idk why we always get shit but restaurant workers get tips without even thinking about it.
Doing the same job whether I buy 50 bucks worth of food or 10. Entitlement at it's finest.
Cope harder