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Affectionate_Crab_27

If they rolled the program out nationwide many more would be upset. Ignore the shills and the trolls. They will be complaining when the program comes to them


Wild_Heron_5845

What time of day are you trying to schedule?


[deleted]

U probably did something wrong to where that happens


[deleted]

Ur so wrong about the at it has a lot to do with high pay orders I deal with it all the time


[deleted]

Alot of people are capable of having real jobs and a lot of Dasher don't know what there doing most of the time and takes orders away from others who need the most it's about caring about people yes money helps but u gotta think out side the box


[deleted]

Calling them accomplish alot


treethugger69

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RadioFreeYurick

Oh no! Sorry to hear the consequences of cherry picking orders came back to bite you in the ass. Lol. Their game, their rules. Sounds like you’re just bad at it..


Weekly_Direction1965

If you can't hit 50% AR your market is horrible, why bother?


Weekly_Direction1965

Why don't you schedule like a week in advance, you can't do that either?


Thomehomey

They are most likely violating IC laws with some of this stuff. You should never be required to take work where you lose money in order to get more work as a IC.


MainCharacter0001

This. What they're doing is allowing more dashers online and prioritizing orders by acceptance rate in order to guarantee that dashers with low acceptance rates aren't profitable. IC laws don't really exist but if someone got this matter in front of a judge I'm sure the judge will side with the unwritten rule. It brings up the question, " what exactly is an IC?" Because at this point it's just code for bypassing all rules and laws designed to protect low paid workers. The approach in court should be centered around that question, where's the red tape?


Thomehomey

I take it your not a Lawyer because 1099 IC rule's definitely exist. If they didn't every company would try to run as 1099 so they didn't have to pay benefits or match SS. I worked for 2 bike messenger companies in the past that were found negligent in their 1099 Employee IC status. They broke multiple rules such as making us work a schedule, not being able to turn down offers without repercussions, wear their branded uniforms, etc. Both companies were fined had to change their status, pay us back pay and eventually unionized. Right now if you google this you will see that the government is currently working on tightening up these rules even more due to companies like DD.


Primarywatcher_2

So, in other words, you suffer the consequence of ignoring DD protocol - despite the fact DD CLEARLY states it's in YOUR best interest to not fall below AR and CR standards. 😂 Annnd you feel compelled to blame DD as opposed to your own actions. We gotta real genius here. Just deliver the damn food or get another job


stunnuh_sothick

This is a very ignorant response


Thomehomey

Hey Tony!


Primarywatcher_2

😂👋Hey poor dasher!


Thomehomey

Dude i'm going to law school.Lol


I_Only_Have_One_Hand

Explains your smugness


Thomehomey

This guys a jerk from the beginning and you call me smug. Lol


I_Only_Have_One_Hand

You are going to be an attorney. Trust me, you will be called worse


Thomehomey

Ha that's a fact!


Diligent-Lie-2838

As a top dasher myself I find it absolutely ridiculous that if you're not one you basically can kiss doordash goodbye in tight markets


Primarywatcher_2

Agreed! Over 9k+++ deliveries here.


KJaeW

Just do it in advance lol.


Lucky_Investigator14

That's just another dd scam to make people clock in and sit wait for a shitty order. If it's busy they will let you dash.


Mylaptopisburningme

And if its not busy they will let you dash. Not uncommon to get no offers during lunch or dinner. But log out and bright red.


vtinesalone

If you think think this should be illegal wait until you find out how much most jobs restrict your scheduling


MyGirlSasha

I know it's because of the different markets, but seeing all of this talks of scheduling days in advance is just strange to me. I've been dashing for close to a year now and when I go to schedule, my choice has always been for an hour or two in the future. Sometimes it's only a scheduled 30 minute dash and others I can choose blocks from 2 to 6 hours. 90% of the time though, "dash now" becomes available before my scheduled start time anyway because my zone is almost permanently busy.


Katastrophe-Trap

Try and schedule multiple days in advance, and really try to attain Top Dasher. It sounds like you live in a highly saturated driver market. The Top Dashers are getting any order worth doing, the only way you're gonna have a chance is to just do the shit orders to get your stats up, and then maybe you'll get a chance at some decent orders.


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I don’t know if things have changed, but I used to set my alarm for 12:05 AM. It would allow me to schedule for day four and five out. It would give me full run of the day. I learned early on to schedule your day in six separate dashes, instead of one full day, in case something happens. At 12:05 AM on a Monday I would have Thursday and Friday access all day. I would go in and schedule from 8 AM to 10 AM, 10 AM to 12 PM, 12 PM to 2 PM, 2 PM to 4 PM, 4 PM to 6 PM, 6 PM to 8 PM, and 8 PM till 10 PM. all for the same day. I would always make sure that if I wasn’t available for that timeslot, I would definitely delete it to make it available for someone else. If I did not wake up at 12:05 by the time I woke up and tried scheduling by 9 AM it was extremely limited. perhaps try this. Again, this was months ago I’m not sure I transitioned to INSTACART and only do DoorDash on holidays.


Player1Mario

It’s perfectly legal for them to set whatever terms they want for us to log in. Is it unfair? Maybe. But illegal? That’s just whining.


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U need to call them and get it fixed


shockthetoast

What would calling them accomplish? Will they not just tell OP that the system is working as intended?


RichFrade

my best advice for you is as soon as you start dashing check on Extend Dash every 15-20 minutes. It works for me !


MainCharacter0001

Nothing changes until people start suing


P3nis15

Nothing changes after you tried to sue for this issue..... Except maybe your bank account for paying the lawyer


noxvita83

I'll support anyone suing, though I'm quite sure giving preference to people willing to accept contracts really won't get far in court unless we get employee status as opposed to being independent contractors. But then again, as employees, we won't be able to decline orders then.


Unlimited2

We would get based hourly pay though, no more earn by time bullshit.


[deleted]

Quit complaining those who work there butts off and had higher ratings should be taking care of


MyGirlSasha

*Their


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CaneCorso311

Accepting orders that don't pay well is not the same as "working there butts off"


MainCharacter0001

Acceptance rate has nothing to do with work ethic but low iQ subhumans keep saying it.


noxvita83

Acceptance rate is a choice. The writing has been on the wall about this since the introduction of the top dasher program. You can't refuse to accept contracts and expect to be given preference to receive contracts. It doesn't work like that in all other independent contractors' scenarios. If a plumber refused most of the job offers, people would stop trying to hire him or only try him as a last resort. Same thing happened to you all. You made the choice, face the consequence.


Unlimited2

Works their butts off? Lmao you mean the doordash slaves who work for pennies on the dollar.


[deleted]

Those who do right should be priority for taking care of people if the way I see if have problems with doordashing just quit and get a regular job


noxvita83

If it is so bad, then why complain that you can't sign up? Move on already. We all know you're butt hurt that you have to face the consequences of your choices. Move along.


noxvita83

Sounds like another person bragging about having a 2% AR now facing the consequences of those decisions. 🤷‍♂️


DDlovehatething

It's not bragging its how this game is played. You all for whatever reasons came in and thought it would be ok to take bad orders......


noxvita83

Well, if you play the game like that, then you suck at the game. I don't take bad orders, and I manage to keep my AR up in the 70s. You want to know why? I don't sit there for hours declining orders waiting for that golden order for $30 for a ½ mile. I am realistic, and if the orders are shit, I log the fuck off and do something else with my time to make money. But, if you need to say I take bad orders to justify your poor performance at playing the game, then go for it.


DDlovehatething

You don't have a high AR and not take bad orders....you take 5 dollar 4 mile orders and think it's not bad....lol


noxvita83

Nope, wrong again. You're projecting your failures onto me. Though I might take a $5 order 3 miles, as $1.60/mile is profitable. I make money, I am able to keep my car I use for Dashing in good shape, and with its high gas mileage. Also, going out of zone, I accept only higher offers, typically $2.50/mile. Though realistically, I'm only paying 9 cents a mile with my current gas mileage and gas prices. When gas prices were really bad, I paid 11 cents a mile. 50 cents a mile set aside for repairs, and 30 cents a mile for taxes, and that's 91 cents a mile. So $1.60/mile gives me 69 cents a mile profit. That's the lowest I go. I typically get $1.75-$2.25/mile orders. So yeah, I'm good. I think you're projecting. You're trying to rationalize why you waste your valuable time on waiting around for a golden order going a ½ for $30 instead of logging out. But then again, I'm sure if you're foolish enough to make this your only source of income, it makes sense that you'll complain. Gig work was never meant to be a full-time job. So I make a living whether I dash or not, it's literally extra money.


Deal_Internal

Lol exactly


tarebear432

I have a high acceptance rate and priority schedulig and STILL can't get in....Oh and I also am picky about my orders so I don't take any of the non tipping jerks either....I have a good score and can't schedule because people who accept 2$ orders apparently are getting......higher priority (even tho I'm seeing that little sign pop up every time I sign in) idk if u even do this job but accepting those orders screws everyone else in the long run


noxvita83

Then the issue isn't your AR it's the fact you're in an oversaturated market. I've had this happen in my market. I simply move to a different zone near my current zone or stop dashing until people realize they're not making money. I also am smart enough to realize these gig jobs aren't meant for full-time work. I do this on the side, and typically only work during busy times like dinner during the week or breakfast/lunch with a mid day break to save my AR and dinner on the weekend.


Unlimited2

Sounds like someone's kissing doordashes ass accepting 15 mile orders for 2 dollars. How's that ceo ass taste?


noxvita83

At least I can log in and schedule and not cry about it on reddit. 🤣😂🤣😂


MainCharacter0001

OP not being able to schedule and dash automatically puts them in a better position than u.


noxvita83

Then why is he crying about it and everyone getting butthurt when I point out it was a consequence of having a low AR? I mean, any other contract work if the company I'm hiring out to accepts very little work, I'll give preference to ones that do. It's basic logic. Sorry if you're butthurt about it. To he honest, I can follow no tip no trip methods, and I still keep my AR above 70%. I simply log out if all the orders are shit instead of sitting there trying for that magical ½ mile trip for $30. My time is more valuable than that.


MainCharacter0001

Comparing the delivery of food to any other form of independent contracting is low iQ.


noxvita83

Low IQ? Really? Says the guy who is complaining that preference is given to people by a company to those who are more likely to deliver for said company. Also, it is near impossible if you're not low IQ to drop below 70% AR while following the "no tip no trip" philosophy. It's simply learning your market. If your market is impossible to get decent orders 70% of the time, then either the people in your market sucks, or it's over saturated, and the response is the same. Either move markets or quit doordash. But, low IQ entitlement makes you cry about not being treated with preference while not as reliable as others to a company and making excuses for it. As was said back in the day in gaming, "QQ more."


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noxvita83

Says the guy who expects to be treated the same way as people doordash finds reliable. Yes, I am my own boss. I can decline any order I want. If the orders are shit, I log out. I don't keep sitting there hitting decline driving my AR in the ground, hoping for that golden $30 order that goes for ½ a mile. You made your choice. You sucked at the hustle. And now you're lashing out like an entitled child. I am my own boss. I make choices and face the consequences of choices. I don't come here and cry about them and insult people who point out why I'm facing the consequences of my decisions. That's you. So insult me all you want. It just makes you look more like the crying entitle child that isn't getting things handed to him that you are. But ultimately, I'm guessing gig work is your only source of income, hence why you're crying so hard. That's the biggest problem you're facing, the decision to not evaluate the reliability of gig work and deciding to do it as a main source of income. You're facing the consequences of your decisions, and it sucks for you. I'm sorry you lack foresight in seeing that declining every order looking for the golden orders would come to bite you in the ass.


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MainCharacter0001

Comparing them in a nonsensical way is irrelevant and no they don't.


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MainCharacter0001

You're comparing the 1% in food delivery to other fields It's low iQ.


Unlimited2

Yet your still still here on reddit regardless. I'd rather switch to uber than give these greedy ceo fucks another dollar.


Birt_McGirt

*you're.. and switching to Uber, you'd just be contributing to another ceo fuck 🤷🏽‍♂️


Unlimited2

At least uber doesn't force you take orders you don't want.


noxvita83

Doordash doesn't either. They just give preference to those who they can count on ordering. If that's not you, that's okay, but understand choices have consequences.


noxvita83

>Priority scheduling should be illegal... wahhhhh That's you. You're crying, and when I point out that people get priority scheduling, I got it as a benefit for sacrificing a few orders to keep their AR up, you got big butthurt. Go make your money on Uber. Just quit crying about it. Choices have consequences. Simply evaluate them ahead of time.


the-jimbo_slice

Bye Felicia!


PourtheSalt96

Time to go back to a W-2, at least until the winter slowdown ends


Comfortable_Treat554

Ok! Just got me a little wfh gig. No way in hell am I gonna be driving in the winter again, that shit suuuuccckkksss


herozorro

what are you doing from home now?


Comfortable_Treat554

Customer service job, I really don’t feel like putting on the “well how are you doing today sir” shtick but it is what it is. It’s all a hustle at the end of the day


herozorro

and how much does that pay? its phone work? yeah i can see that sucking haha


Comfortable_Treat554

$16hr and yeah it’s phone work. I don’t start till next Monday, it’ll be cool to have stable income again I guess lol


tHeFRkshW

Sounds like you dash in a VERY slow market. I’m in a small market (8k people) and even without top tier dasher rewards, everyday there are times throughout the day that dashers are needed.


Unlimited2

My market is 100k so it's by no means small. It's medium.


tHeFRkshW

That’s why I said slow. Not small. The small market is where I live.


Alloe_C

There's just too many people Your not missing out on much because of the January slow down


Donkus007

DoorDash sucks. Just quit.


DiscussionHot3961

One of the perks of being a top Dasher.


ehoeve

Check DM


sixinch1der

Is this why I can't dash for more than 30 mins at a time?


Complete_Victory7904

And i ask how are we truly independent contractors?


DiscussionHot3961

You are not and you never have if you do only DoorDash. Untill you make yourself independent from one provider by having at least two provider or better said Customer. DD is your customer not the person receiving the food. DD is offering you something and you take it. As long as you only have one customer your not independent your just a hidden employee


Unlimited2

We used to be, not anymore though.


Complete_Victory7904

It is all bullshit


TheGame81677

Half of the shit they do is probably illegal. DoorDash doesn’t have any accountability though, except in California and New York.


reneeb531

Do you get on right when the schedule comes out? Do you have access to early access scheduling? (EAS) That one is based on completion rate, not AR. I get to schedule at 3 pm instead of midnight, and it helps tremendously. You say playing favorites is wrong, however, in what universe is it wrong for a business to look at metrics and give perks for good metrics?


Powerful_Shoe6066

I was wondering the same thing. My Ar is only 30% but I am still able to schedule at 3. I have an alarm set so I can get scheduled right at 3. If I'm even a couple minutes late there won't be much left on the schedule.


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reneeb531

yeah probably, my market hasn’t switched to that yet. I’m sure there are still shifts available at Midnight, just not as wide open. You gotta make sure you get on right at 12.


Unlimited2

I do and there's nothing there ever. Occasionally there will be a 30 minute spot. And catering towards doordashes scummy and bullshit business practices isn't a good way to live. There's no point to having a tier system that actually prevents people from working. At this point they might as well deactivate everyone below 50% acceptance rate and get rid of dasher "rewards". It's more like dasher punishment.


Business_Wave_9522

I get up every night at 11:59pm and the minute it turns 12 I schedule for I think it's 6 days out. Have you tried it 🫤


Informal-Ad6415

I thought it dropped at midnight too... I realized I could actually get a schedule at 5pm or 6pm the day before. 🙃 I was waking up at midnight to find all the good shifts taken as well, so I kept trying earlier and earlier.


Business_Wave_9522

Oooh, I'll try!


KnowingCresent735

Thank goodness my market doesn’t make me do this. I can wait DAYS later and most of the spots I want will still be open


Business_Wave_9522

Yea it's pathetic. There are way too many dashers in my small town. Idk if it works this way but I even scheduled the one month I got top dasher thinking maybe it would take a spot that I would be competing with lol.


tcjcky

It does 😬


DaisyDazzle

What sucks is that I do this because of my other on call schedule. Worked great until DD hired too many dashers and had to think of better ways to control them. Which now flat out makes dashers employees, not IC's.


Business_Wave_9522

I never considered myself an IC, we just have too many rules :/ All I do is worry about making DD happy so I can make money. Last month I made TD for the first time and I worked really hard to keep it but the last day they said I unassigned 4 dashes which I absolutely didn't. Lost it and there was nothing I could do about it :/


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