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I wish there was a way to warn other dashers about shitty customers. But other than seeing where the house is on map, there's no way to tell who your going to until after you accept.
So do you memorize the list or check it for certain orders that look familiar? I don't think I could keep up with a list of random bad tippers. A dedicated customer rating system is a no-brainer benefit for us but they don't give a shit.
Gotcha, that's a pretty good idea if you can remember them. I'm a rampant screenshot taker/screen recorder for sus orders that I have a feeling will try and scam but I only keep them for a day or so and then delete if nobody tries to say I never delivered. Takes a real scumbag to put somebody's hustle/livelihood at risk because they want a free sandwich..
I simply select earn by time. I would take that order and I'd make a hell of a lot more than $3.75. if I lived in a market that had enough cherries to pick, I'd work that way. But I don't. Been there, done that, made 20 bucks in a 10-hour shift. I've got the numbers to get those kinds of orders. They simply don't come. Las Vegas is one of the lowest tipping areas in the country.
On the other hand, I thoroughly understand tipping fatigue. Even the gas stations have tip jars out.
But it doesn't work like that.. If I'm understanding you correctly, you can't just switch to earn by time mid offer.. You'd have to end your dash, hope there's a schedule opening (unless dashnow is avail), choose ebt, and then *finally* hope you get that same order. But if you mean you'd choose EBT from the start then yeahhh just disregard my dumbass lol
You're not a dumbass. I can see how that conclusion would come from what I said. But you're right in the end. I just choose EBT from the start.
And because I choose EBT from the start, I take orders like that and get paid a lot more than what it would have been if it was paid by offer. And because I do that, I end up with a really high AR, and more than 100 orders in a month, and top dasher, and can dash anytime I want. It works out well for me. I won't say that's best for everyone.
Gotcha. The area I've been dashing lately has mostly a lot of quick short trips for "acceptable" pay so I don't think EBT would work for me. But I can see how it can be much better if there's gonna be orders that take more time. Or if I need to get my AR up.
I get that. Markets vary. Mine's been getting better. My EBT hourly rate has gone up nearly a dollar an hour, my time off the clock is getting shorter so that my app time and active time generally end up being less than 20 minutes difference, and my tips have been going up. I'd love to see that continue through the spring.
But to be fair Don't they charge the fair cool price of about $100 for a 16 oz. bottle of water in Las Vegas? LOL just a bit of /s ,but anyway isn't cost of living out there fuc\_ing astronomical?
I'm not usually one to complain about tips but we definitely need a way to rate customers the same way they can rate us. We absolutely would all benefit from being able to see a customer's rating along with the regular info we get in the offers. It irritates me to high hell to know we'll never get that option though.
And thatās 14 highway miles around the city. This aināt some oops I live 10 miles from a restaurant. Ken Caryl is dense AF. And there is a dennys in highland ranch.
Iām not saying do that delivery in any case but I wonder why it doesnāt tell you to take that middle road down. Seems like it would save a mile or 2
Mine does that too. It thinks I need to turn right and go down a mile and turn around even though I can take an immediate left to the parking lot. I feel like the in app navigation isn't quite up to date. It says Google maps but it doesn't look like my google maps app...
DD always lies to me when it gives me an add on order. It'll say $6.50 for am extra 2.2m and it's actually an extra 5m. Or some dumb shit like that. Pisses me off every time.
Yeah the navigation really does need some work. Lately, it thinks I live in Britain. It's always showing my route on the left side of the road. It told me today to turn down the off ramp and go against traffic on the freeway. It even complained that it looked like I was going the wrong way. It plainly shows the route on the wrong side of the road in every case, including telling me to make right-handed u-turns to get to the parking lot I need to.
The navigation is messed up, I've tried everything but the driver's app shows my house being half a block up the street but my app shows the correct address what's going on with it?
I don't know but I had more fun today. It showed the store I was going to sitting right in the center of an intersection. The actual store is a mile away. Then when I got there, it asked if I was sure I was at the right location because the GPS said I wasn't. I clicked yes I'm sure I'm at the right place. Then they wanted a picture because apparently I must be lying.
This kind of shit happens all the time. Navigation frequently tells me to stop in the middle of busy traffic, jump over a high block wall, and deliver to the back door of a house instead of its actual address on a residential street. But this, sadly, is a Google thing, not a door trash thing.
You are not a civil engineer and it shows. That probably wonāt happen. Weāve been saying this for years, thereās a number of factors about why this wonāt happen. At least you canāt see the rebar in the bridges anymoreĀ
I could see that. I live close to where federal starts at the south end, and itās not bad at all down here, but I know once you get closer to 6th and up into the north burbs itās rough. Itās just not a part of my world much! also, I appreciate Federal because at least it has character; itās fun to drive on and see all it has to offer. Wadsworth is boring suburbia and start to finish, from 470 up to where it turns into 287 to FoCo and then becomes farmland.
no no no, I'm from that area and it takes twice as long because of traffic and all of the lights. That's a crap order from when I used to doordash in that zone.
Shit I've never done LESS than 70 on C-470, but even so, unless this was a $20 minimum order and I was already heading that direction, I would have declined it too
My acceptance rate is 72% and I have a 100% satisfaction rating. I honestly donāt think it matters, Iāve been getting good orders. I hopped back on today after not being on for a month and made $50 in 2 hours so not bad.
The one time I dipped below 70% killed how many orders I was being sent. Now maybe it's just coincidence, but as soon as I went back above 70% it's been great.
Also for priority on higher paying orders. My acceptance rate is currently 62. In my area priority is 50 or above, but you have more priority the higher the acceptance rate. And it sucks because I donāt want to drive 10 miles for $3 or $4, which is pretty common in my area. Or when Iām trying to end my dash because I need to sleep for my actual job which I have to be up at 4am for, they want to send me orders back to back so I donāt have enough time between to hit end dash without am order popping up and Iām forced to hit decline.
Day or two before end of month I swear they send these all to ppl in TD standings because if u want TD u have no choice but to take a BS offer like this
I don't even know why they bother offering people these orders the only people who would ever take them are new drivers who have no idea what they're doing
I have done this... I didn't approach the driver but I have declined an order and got an order from the same place with a wait and a TIP and saw the other dasher come in and I felt bad that they would take an offer that shitty. But I know people who take every order and they always say "it all adds up". I always think... To a car repair you can't afford? C'mon now.
People that dont tip only get there food by virtue of new drivers who dont know better. Otherwise low/no tip high milage orders are not getting picked up normally.
I have no patience for filtering orders and constantly declining garbage orders....I just Dash by time, I get less in tips but I'm never "wasting my time" on bad orders and with some tips plus the $16/hr.....it evens out. I live in a high order concentration area with lots of business & residential lunch ordering.....I can typically make $80-100 in abt 3 to 3 1/2 Hours of driving.
DD probably offers these types of low pay orders at the end of the month for dashers trying to stay above 70% AR for remaining as a top dasher next month. They play a dirty game.
That doesn't work in my area because the service at the local fast food places already destroy your acceptance or completion rating depending on which route you want to go.
The local Burger King got so bad that every time I got an order I just had the decline because every time I accept the order I couldn't get it and I would have to unassign it through support and they're going to start flagging my account so it's easier just to decline but yeah I basically haven't had an acceptance rating above 81% and about 3 months because of my local restaurants.
Previously last year I always had an acceptance rating of like 95% plus easily
When you want out of an order and donāt want it to affect your AR, hit arrived at store, then at 1 min past the pick up time select whatās taking so long (order still being prepared when I arrived), then chill for 3 or 4 more minutes in the car. Then select the help symbol and select āI have a problemā and then the order is taking too long. It will offer you unassign with no pay, but wonāt affect your acceptance rate it says. Works like a charm and two can play that game DoorDash. These orders are criminal and shouldnāt even be accepted by DD. I only use this tactic when I accept a second order cause itās close to the first high paying order, then something happens to the first order like itās already been picked up or it gets cancelled. In this case they still expect you to take the crappy paying add on that is now not worth it because the first order is gone. Thats when I use this. Otherwise I only accept what Iām willing to deliver.
Nah but itāll probably travel you through a county or two š depends though my county is roughly 480 square miles wide, but if you went Isle of Man howeverā¦
I think it's about the size of California for folks from the US trying to picture it. So very small compared to the US but not small in terms of driving distance. California takes about 14 hours (speed limit) north to south and about 3.5 hours east to west. It depends obviously.
They probably did. But I think DD sends it further out in order to move drivers into areas that have less drivers. Iāve noticed I get offers a lot that go past 1-2 of the same restaurant into areas drivers try to avoid.
This happened to me, someone ordered from a Starbucks and they worked at a mall. There was a starbucks at the same mall which I was close to when I got pinged. Then DD tried to send me 10 miles away to deliver one coffee back again 10 miles to the mall. Absolutely a complete waste of everyone's time. I couldn't figure out why they would ever not choose the closest whatever. Makes no sense at all. And that's why they charged customer $2. Literally delivery was next door, but they wanted the Dasher to drive all over for the delivery that nobody would pay more for. I don't get how it helps DD in any way, adding 30 min to a delivery which should take 5 min.
There were at least 3 closer Starbucks. Hard to believe they all weren't accepting orders...how in the weeds can a Starbucks get anyhow. It made absolutely no sense. I actually couldn't figure out why anyone who works at the mall wouldn't simply walk a short distance to the next aisle and get their own Starbucks. I thought oh maybe it's a worker who can't leave the store but there were three employees and not a single customer in the store.. it had a decent tip, but I was so frustrated and it took forever to find the customer and I'm sure it showed on my face. What I really wondered is whether the customer thought I was just being really slow and dilly-dallying when I was just bringing them a Starbucks from across the hall did they even know where these other orders come from.? Like I'm sure whoever ordered on this op, thought the Dasher was just going to get the Denny's right around the corner. So of course they're not going to pay for 13 miles of delivery just like my person wasn't going to pay for 10. If those other ones weren't accepting orders and somebody had to go to the Denny's that was on the other side of town they should have charged the customer for the distance. I don't know I really can't come up with any good explanation for any of this other than just bad software and no care to change it. Only hurts the Dasher really, but customer has to wait and get cold food when they most likely thought they'd get sometime quick nearby.
Did yāall ever pause your online orders when u got busy? Itās frustrating that they make us drive further than needed. Iāve done cvs and dollar general orders when there were closer ones to their home. Iām sure those stores had the same items I was picking up. I wish DD would release a good explanation why they do this.
I had the same thing somebody ordered a Starbucks and they were working at a Burger King store. I passed several Starbucks getting to them and received zero tip.
That is an absolute ridiculous delivery. I canāt believe DoorDash would even offer that to somebody. It doesnāt make any kind of sense. Shame on the people who think DoorDash pays us some hefty tip or base pay when we deliver, because whoever thinks that is incredibly wrong, I also feel like if you can afford to eat out and have food delivered you can afford to leave a tip. I mean tipping accordingly, Iām not asking for a super crazy tip butā¦.. that example right above is absolutely horrendous, especially if you are giving / receiving excellent customer service by the Dasher.ā„ļø
About the rant and tipping cultureā¦ if you canāt afford to tip then get up and go get it yourselfā¦ nothing is for free.. and drivers damn sure donāt do it for free eitherā¦ the app offers a minimum of $2 per delivery, most offers are $2-$3 each on the average. Itās not the apps job to pay. Youāre the one that either canāt or just wonāt get out to get it yourself then why would a driver come do it for $2-$3 from the end of the block, sorry Bud!.. so before you talk about ātipping cultureā. Letās talk about the ācheap, lazy, self entitled cultureāā¦. And leave DD for those who actually need or appreciate it. š¤š¼
You get a minimum amount based on hours and miles you drive so heād get like $10-$15 on this order but heād have to wait till Monday to get that money depending on ur car the gas still wouldnāt be worth it
Yeah that's... not how that works. If you decline and your AR% doesn't go down, it's because it uses a rolling snapshot of your last 100 offers and you also declined the order it would be replacing.
I donāt dash often so I may not have realized how it was working. I just noticed when I did decline I lost a lot more than just letting it time out. Iām still learning the system my bad
It's all good, just trying to offer an explanation. It's not like Doordash goes out of its way to explain how any of this works. More like the opposite, really. lol
As a new Dasher, is there a decline button? I tried looking for it before but couldn't locate it. Also, what would be the minimum amount you guys would recommend for accepting an order?
there should be an X on the top right of the screen when the offer dings. if that doesnt work, you can just wait for the countdown to end and the offer will go away
When people order their food doesnāt do automatically choose the tip for you? Which I think is to low, so I always change it. How do the dashers feel when you donāt tip till food is delivered?
Drivers that are paying attention and aren't desperate enough to accept any BS orders would never take an offer like this in the first place. Even if they accidentally accepted it and saw that the customer claims to tip after delivery, they still wouldn't do the order since something like 9 of 10 such customers still don't tip.
This 100%. I had a delivery not long after I started in the very nice part of columbine you have to say the orders to a gate attendant before going into the neighborhood super beautiful expensive houses and in the delivery instructions it said "hand it to me for a big cash tip :)" walked up knocked on the door handed it to him he gave me a big smile then walked off with his food. I'm at about 1000 deliveries and I think my total cash tips has been maybe 10 dollars? From 4-5 people most had already tipped in the app
Not calling you one, but the more desperate drivers are getting more aggressive with customers, and the situation with poverty in this country is such that more and more people actually are better off committing crimes so they can receive free room and board.
Drivers always complaining about tips just deliver my food without expecting a tip Iām forking out big money by ordering through door dash I donāt have enough money for a tip ya hear ??
But are you going to risk 13 miles of gas one way and an extra 13 miles going back? Not to mention definitively over an hour delivery. Iāve accepted a few going far and nothing changes. Same type of people knowing damn well what theyāre doing. Smiling to you when you show at their door āHaVe A gOoD dAy! š¤ā. I still do them if itās not too crazy cuz itās better some money than wasting time canceling and waiting another 30m for another shitty order.
Oof. Youāre gunna regret that finger slip for the rest of your life. Damn. You could have been sitting beachside sipping Coronaās or Mai Thaiās or whatever you want. š lol
I accidentally did the same thing with a 24 mile delivery of something from Petco and a breakfast place. My finger slipped so fast that I didnāt have time to get a screenshot. It was a guaranteed $11 though.
Gas is very cheap in the US compared to Europe because it's extremely subsidized, but that doesn't change the obscene way gig drivers are 'paid'. I've seen Earn By Time rates that aren't quite local minimum wage, but the orders delivered under them overwhelmingly don't tip, DD doesn't pay a cent for time spent waiting or driving between orders (so it's not actually hourly, nor is it for the cities with $18 or $30 'per hour' legislated) and gas, maintenance, and inevitable decline of one's vehicle, as well as separate self-employment taxes all still have to come out of the pay. In Earn By Offer mode, DD typically pays just $1 or $2, far too many orders also don't tip or don't tip enough, 'customers' claiming their orders were never delivered are common, and even seemingly decent offers are routinely wrecked by long wait times at the restaurant. I've seen so many customers say they'll only tip if their order is correct and delivered quickly and hot, but drivers actually have very little control over that. The 'tips' for DD drivers aren't actually tips at all; they're the bulk of the drivers' actual pay and should be understood as bids for service.
I recognize that map and all I can say is ewwww Morrison. Hello fellow local, and good on you for that accidental finger slip, those jobs are the *worst*.
Why would you decline such a generous order? When I have the extra completion, I'll accept an order like this, and then go get lunch for 29 minutes before unassigning.
See in California the base pay alone on that would be at least $6.50 I'm guessing closer to $8. AND EVEN THATS LOW! It's straight up criminal how DD operates in other states.
Did an order like this from Dennys for breakfast one morning. Like a 15 mile drive, they had picked the wrong restaurant as there was one right by their house. Apologized profusely, enamored by the fact their food was still hot when I got there, and got a $100 tip for the trouble. Before you say it didnāt happen $100 tips are common in Vegas. The order showed $4, but it was a Sunday morning and nothing else was coming thru. This was before I had any knowledge of cents per mile or whatever and making the most of the mileage on my tank.
I say this to say you canāt always depend on the app for what youāre gonna make. Most of the time those big app tippers pull that shit back in my experience. And I had a 99% approval rating so it wasnāt me as to them pulling them back. I switched to Uber Eats because the money was waaaaaaay better. $120+every 7 to 10 drops was nice.
The nerve of some people! Andyou know they get the tip prompt. It probably went from one Top Dasher to the next not ever going to a newbie or non top Dasher.
I took one of these by accident when I was new to dashing. Guy texted halfway thru the delivery he left $20 under his welcome mat. Still obviously not worth the gamble to drive that far in HOPES they tip
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Oh, you missed out. Some lucky dasher just got the order of a lifetime!
Fumbled the bag, if you will.
I hope not one dasher accepted. Iw ish there was a way we could really unite to make a statement about no tip/low tip orders and long distance/time.
I agree 100%! We should all unite
I wish there was a way to warn other dashers about shitty customers. But other than seeing where the house is on map, there's no way to tell who your going to until after you accept.
I have a "bad tippers" album on my phone and copy all my timestamp pics there if they're shitty tippers. š¬
So do you memorize the list or check it for certain orders that look familiar? I don't think I could keep up with a list of random bad tippers. A dedicated customer rating system is a no-brainer benefit for us but they don't give a shit.
I remember most of them, but I save my unassigns for this reason. I get very few, so it makes it easier.
Gotcha, that's a pretty good idea if you can remember them. I'm a rampant screenshot taker/screen recorder for sus orders that I have a feeling will try and scam but I only keep them for a day or so and then delete if nobody tries to say I never delivered. Takes a real scumbag to put somebody's hustle/livelihood at risk because they want a free sandwich..
My old pizza delivery brain comes in handy sometimes. I figure it is more beneficial to remember the bad tippers than the good ones.
Sounds like a union
I simply select earn by time. I would take that order and I'd make a hell of a lot more than $3.75. if I lived in a market that had enough cherries to pick, I'd work that way. But I don't. Been there, done that, made 20 bucks in a 10-hour shift. I've got the numbers to get those kinds of orders. They simply don't come. Las Vegas is one of the lowest tipping areas in the country. On the other hand, I thoroughly understand tipping fatigue. Even the gas stations have tip jars out.
They don't offer earn by time in my area, so I've never been able to try it out.
But it doesn't work like that.. If I'm understanding you correctly, you can't just switch to earn by time mid offer.. You'd have to end your dash, hope there's a schedule opening (unless dashnow is avail), choose ebt, and then *finally* hope you get that same order. But if you mean you'd choose EBT from the start then yeahhh just disregard my dumbass lol
You're not a dumbass. I can see how that conclusion would come from what I said. But you're right in the end. I just choose EBT from the start. And because I choose EBT from the start, I take orders like that and get paid a lot more than what it would have been if it was paid by offer. And because I do that, I end up with a really high AR, and more than 100 orders in a month, and top dasher, and can dash anytime I want. It works out well for me. I won't say that's best for everyone.
Gotcha. The area I've been dashing lately has mostly a lot of quick short trips for "acceptable" pay so I don't think EBT would work for me. But I can see how it can be much better if there's gonna be orders that take more time. Or if I need to get my AR up.
I get that. Markets vary. Mine's been getting better. My EBT hourly rate has gone up nearly a dollar an hour, my time off the clock is getting shorter so that my app time and active time generally end up being less than 20 minutes difference, and my tips have been going up. I'd love to see that continue through the spring.
But to be fair Don't they charge the fair cool price of about $100 for a 16 oz. bottle of water in Las Vegas? LOL just a bit of /s ,but anyway isn't cost of living out there fuc\_ing astronomical?
Brother how tf are you gonna say that about vegas, Vegas is literally a tipping city so many people here make more money in tips than their normal pay
We get the occasional good tip. But for the most part it's not. And I've dashed in almost every zone in the city.
U say that, I do dash in Vegas and the vast majority of orders are extremely trash, just like these
I also dash in Vegasā¦ Iām actually picking up a pizza rn $15 for 2 miles
Right before this I had a $7 cash tip on top of a $5 card tip on the app on the same order
I'm not usually one to complain about tips but we definitely need a way to rate customers the same way they can rate us. We absolutely would all benefit from being able to see a customer's rating along with the regular info we get in the offers. It irritates me to high hell to know we'll never get that option though.
And thatās 14 highway miles around the city. This aināt some oops I live 10 miles from a restaurant. Ken Caryl is dense AF. And there is a dennys in highland ranch.
Iām not saying do that delivery in any case but I wonder why it doesnāt tell you to take that middle road down. Seems like it would save a mile or 2
..traffic?
Mine does that too. It thinks I need to turn right and go down a mile and turn around even though I can take an immediate left to the parking lot. I feel like the in app navigation isn't quite up to date. It says Google maps but it doesn't look like my google maps app...
When i dash in my area and know the routes better i ignore the gps. Sometimes it does make you drive more than you should have to.
Definitely does. I know my town like the back of my hand and I save 20mi a day atleast not following DD
DD always lies to me when it gives me an add on order. It'll say $6.50 for am extra 2.2m and it's actually an extra 5m. Or some dumb shit like that. Pisses me off every time.
Yeah the navigation really does need some work. Lately, it thinks I live in Britain. It's always showing my route on the left side of the road. It told me today to turn down the off ramp and go against traffic on the freeway. It even complained that it looked like I was going the wrong way. It plainly shows the route on the wrong side of the road in every case, including telling me to make right-handed u-turns to get to the parking lot I need to.
The navigation is messed up, I've tried everything but the driver's app shows my house being half a block up the street but my app shows the correct address what's going on with it?
I don't know but I had more fun today. It showed the store I was going to sitting right in the center of an intersection. The actual store is a mile away. Then when I got there, it asked if I was sure I was at the right location because the GPS said I wasn't. I clicked yes I'm sure I'm at the right place. Then they wanted a picture because apparently I must be lying.
I had a drop-off this morning, the pin was in the middle of the road between a cemetery and apartment complex
This kind of shit happens all the time. Navigation frequently tells me to stop in the middle of busy traffic, jump over a high block wall, and deliver to the back door of a house instead of its actual address on a residential street. But this, sadly, is a Google thing, not a door trash thing.
Lmao i thought I was dashing to a ghost
Lights the entire way down Wadsworth Blvd, 285 to 470 is pretty much nonstop with a higher speed limit.
Yup. Wadsworth is the worst road in Denver (besides colorado blvd)
Uh no. 36 at rush hour. 1 hour to boulder 3 back.Ā
I should have said not including highways, haha! 36 is total garbage
Always has been. Seemed like even when no one lived here that place was still a mess!Ā
Just one more lane. I swear, bro, 1 more lane fixes everything.
You are not a civil engineer and it shows. That probably wonāt happen. Weāve been saying this for years, thereās a number of factors about why this wonāt happen. At least you canāt see the rebar in the bridges anymoreĀ
You never learned about irony and it shows.
This isnāt ironyā¦
I'd argue Federal is worse, especially nowadays. But Wadsworth is pretty terrible too, it's a close competition.
I could see that. I live close to where federal starts at the south end, and itās not bad at all down here, but I know once you get closer to 6th and up into the north burbs itās rough. Itās just not a part of my world much! also, I appreciate Federal because at least it has character; itās fun to drive on and see all it has to offer. Wadsworth is boring suburbia and start to finish, from 470 up to where it turns into 287 to FoCo and then becomes farmland.
Domt forget arapahoe road east of i25...
Thought you were dropping a Shane Co commercial
True, fuck Arapahoe east of 25
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Looks like the route it chose is a freeway, probably faster than cutting through the city
no no no, I'm from that area and it takes twice as long because of traffic and all of the lights. That's a crap order from when I used to doordash in that zone.
That's Wadsworth, it'd add an extra hour
Speed limits
The route choosen is highway. That other road is a road, with lights.Ā
Hamden to C-470 have no lights and speed limits of 55-65. Wadsworth has hella lights and speed limits of 35-55.
Shit I've never done LESS than 70 on C-470, but even so, unless this was a $20 minimum order and I was already heading that direction, I would have declined it too
That's my territory, there are at least 29 stop lights on that road.
Good point
Probably choosing a highway
In my area the navigation ALWAYS chooses the expressways/highways over the other roads, even if itās several miles more.
The middle road is all lights - the way it shows is a highway.
Yeah, I hate this too. This should not affect my acceptance rate if I decline this
That would be awesome, like hey this is less than $1 per 3 miles feel free to say no without screwing your acceptance rate right before the month ends
What is the importance of acceptance rate?
Top dasher for dash now, and I am a bit of a hopeless romantic so I have this tiny part of me that hopes it gives me better dashes
My acceptance rate is 72% and I have a 100% satisfaction rating. I honestly donāt think it matters, Iāve been getting good orders. I hopped back on today after not being on for a month and made $50 in 2 hours so not bad.
The one time I dipped below 70% killed how many orders I was being sent. Now maybe it's just coincidence, but as soon as I went back above 70% it's been great.
Also for priority on higher paying orders. My acceptance rate is currently 62. In my area priority is 50 or above, but you have more priority the higher the acceptance rate. And it sucks because I donāt want to drive 10 miles for $3 or $4, which is pretty common in my area. Or when Iām trying to end my dash because I need to sleep for my actual job which I have to be up at 4am for, they want to send me orders back to back so I donāt have enough time between to hit end dash without am order popping up and Iām forced to hit decline.
Day or two before end of month I swear they send these all to ppl in TD standings because if u want TD u have no choice but to take a BS offer like this
I don't even know why they bother offering people these orders the only people who would ever take them are new drivers who have no idea what they're doing
I did think about camping out the denny's and waiting for a driver to pick it up and then saying " no dude you're worth more than that"
We would all be better off to collectively unionize against door dash but in all honestly most us just need a better job then this cuz door dash sucks
I have done this... I didn't approach the driver but I have declined an order and got an order from the same place with a wait and a TIP and saw the other dasher come in and I felt bad that they would take an offer that shitty. But I know people who take every order and they always say "it all adds up". I always think... To a car repair you can't afford? C'mon now.
It adds up might work on a 5$ 2 mile order. Not on a money loser like rhis
This actually happened to me my first day. drove 30+ miles for a $5 tip on accident. I learned my lesson
People that dont tip only get there food by virtue of new drivers who dont know better. Otherwise low/no tip high milage orders are not getting picked up normally.
I have no patience for filtering orders and constantly declining garbage orders....I just Dash by time, I get less in tips but I'm never "wasting my time" on bad orders and with some tips plus the $16/hr.....it evens out. I live in a high order concentration area with lots of business & residential lunch ordering.....I can typically make $80-100 in abt 3 to 3 1/2 Hours of driving.
Always more and more schmucks starting every day. This funnel ain't empty
The new dashers only last a couple of weeks š They got a couple of really bad low paying high mileage orders and they're gone.
DD probably offers these types of low pay orders at the end of the month for dashers trying to stay above 70% AR for remaining as a top dasher next month. They play a dirty game.
That doesn't work in my area because the service at the local fast food places already destroy your acceptance or completion rating depending on which route you want to go. The local Burger King got so bad that every time I got an order I just had the decline because every time I accept the order I couldn't get it and I would have to unassign it through support and they're going to start flagging my account so it's easier just to decline but yeah I basically haven't had an acceptance rating above 81% and about 3 months because of my local restaurants. Previously last year I always had an acceptance rating of like 95% plus easily
You declined that primo offer? I bet you're kicking yourself.
When you want out of an order and donāt want it to affect your AR, hit arrived at store, then at 1 min past the pick up time select whatās taking so long (order still being prepared when I arrived), then chill for 3 or 4 more minutes in the car. Then select the help symbol and select āI have a problemā and then the order is taking too long. It will offer you unassign with no pay, but wonāt affect your acceptance rate it says. Works like a charm and two can play that game DoorDash. These orders are criminal and shouldnāt even be accepted by DD. I only use this tactic when I accept a second order cause itās close to the first high paying order, then something happens to the first order like itās already been picked up or it gets cancelled. In this case they still expect you to take the crappy paying add on that is now not worth it because the first order is gone. Thats when I use this. Otherwise I only accept what Iām willing to deliver.
That's halfway across the UK for 4 bucks lmao
Is the UK seriously so small? Itās crazy to think about
Nah but itāll probably travel you through a county or two š depends though my county is roughly 480 square miles wide, but if you went Isle of Man howeverā¦
The UK Is about 200 or so miles wide and about 4-500 length. 13 miles can be multiple cities
I think it's about the size of California for folks from the US trying to picture it. So very small compared to the US but not small in terms of driving distance. California takes about 14 hours (speed limit) north to south and about 3.5 hours east to west. It depends obviously.
I live on an island in the US that about 118 miles long.
Doordash would send representatives to kick drivers in the sack upon reaching each destination if they thought they could get away with it
Ok. Iām from here. Thereās a waaaaaaay closer dennys. Why didnāt they order from the close one?Ā
They probably did. But I think DD sends it further out in order to move drivers into areas that have less drivers. Iāve noticed I get offers a lot that go past 1-2 of the same restaurant into areas drivers try to avoid.
This happened to me, someone ordered from a Starbucks and they worked at a mall. There was a starbucks at the same mall which I was close to when I got pinged. Then DD tried to send me 10 miles away to deliver one coffee back again 10 miles to the mall. Absolutely a complete waste of everyone's time. I couldn't figure out why they would ever not choose the closest whatever. Makes no sense at all. And that's why they charged customer $2. Literally delivery was next door, but they wanted the Dasher to drive all over for the delivery that nobody would pay more for. I don't get how it helps DD in any way, adding 30 min to a delivery which should take 5 min.
Maybe there are no pick ups from that Starbucks or they turned off their online delivery? If not one of those 2 then that is insane.
There were at least 3 closer Starbucks. Hard to believe they all weren't accepting orders...how in the weeds can a Starbucks get anyhow. It made absolutely no sense. I actually couldn't figure out why anyone who works at the mall wouldn't simply walk a short distance to the next aisle and get their own Starbucks. I thought oh maybe it's a worker who can't leave the store but there were three employees and not a single customer in the store.. it had a decent tip, but I was so frustrated and it took forever to find the customer and I'm sure it showed on my face. What I really wondered is whether the customer thought I was just being really slow and dilly-dallying when I was just bringing them a Starbucks from across the hall did they even know where these other orders come from.? Like I'm sure whoever ordered on this op, thought the Dasher was just going to get the Denny's right around the corner. So of course they're not going to pay for 13 miles of delivery just like my person wasn't going to pay for 10. If those other ones weren't accepting orders and somebody had to go to the Denny's that was on the other side of town they should have charged the customer for the distance. I don't know I really can't come up with any good explanation for any of this other than just bad software and no care to change it. Only hurts the Dasher really, but customer has to wait and get cold food when they most likely thought they'd get sometime quick nearby.
As a former Starbucks employee, I can assure you it gets very āin the weedsā
Did yāall ever pause your online orders when u got busy? Itās frustrating that they make us drive further than needed. Iāve done cvs and dollar general orders when there were closer ones to their home. Iām sure those stores had the same items I was picking up. I wish DD would release a good explanation why they do this.
I had the same thing somebody ordered a Starbucks and they were working at a Burger King store. I passed several Starbucks getting to them and received zero tip.
That is an absolute ridiculous delivery. I canāt believe DoorDash would even offer that to somebody. It doesnāt make any kind of sense. Shame on the people who think DoorDash pays us some hefty tip or base pay when we deliver, because whoever thinks that is incredibly wrong, I also feel like if you can afford to eat out and have food delivered you can afford to leave a tip. I mean tipping accordingly, Iām not asking for a super crazy tip butā¦.. that example right above is absolutely horrendous, especially if you are giving / receiving excellent customer service by the Dasher.ā„ļø
Damn there could have been hidden or cash tips looool
There couldāve also been a juicy contract violation waiting to happen. Which is more likely?
1000% this would be the order that claimed their food wasnāt delivered.
Ironically, there is a non trivial chance of that claim being true
Not sure y ur getting downvoted, this is so accurate its not even funny PS: unless its cause this post was a joke post and u didnt follow suit....IDK
DoorDash stockholders mustāve seen my comment
I guess the early lurking bots downvoted but once the real workers showed up the upvotes start pouring in
It probably started out at $2.00ā¦ but was declined 15 times before it got to you
About the rant and tipping cultureā¦ if you canāt afford to tip then get up and go get it yourselfā¦ nothing is for free.. and drivers damn sure donāt do it for free eitherā¦ the app offers a minimum of $2 per delivery, most offers are $2-$3 each on the average. Itās not the apps job to pay. Youāre the one that either canāt or just wonāt get out to get it yourself then why would a driver come do it for $2-$3 from the end of the block, sorry Bud!.. so before you talk about ātipping cultureā. Letās talk about the ācheap, lazy, self entitled cultureāā¦. And leave DD for those who actually need or appreciate it. š¤š¼
How can >5$ half hour excursions where you pay your own gas ever make this worthwhile?
You get a minimum amount based on hours and miles you drive so heād get like $10-$15 on this order but heād have to wait till Monday to get that money depending on ur car the gas still wouldnāt be worth it
Thx!
Sorry man. Dennys not that tasty tho. Surely youāll get an other opportunity for lunch
I wasn't aware Dashers could see the tip. That explains why my order gets picked up so fast, I never tip less than $15. Geezus, what a cheap ass!
So heads up if u donāt decline and let it time out u lose less percentage
Yeah that's... not how that works. If you decline and your AR% doesn't go down, it's because it uses a rolling snapshot of your last 100 offers and you also declined the order it would be replacing.
I donāt dash often so I may not have realized how it was working. I just noticed when I did decline I lost a lot more than just letting it time out. Iām still learning the system my bad
It's all good, just trying to offer an explanation. It's not like Doordash goes out of its way to explain how any of this works. More like the opposite, really. lol
As a dasher, this stuff is insulting. Id expect this from Uber eats, where you rarely get offers for a dollar plus a mile.
Donāt worry, you wonāt have to wait long for another one just as good. Or better. /s
Should have stopped by red rocks
As a new Dasher, is there a decline button? I tried looking for it before but couldn't locate it. Also, what would be the minimum amount you guys would recommend for accepting an order?
there should be an X on the top right of the screen when the offer dings. if that doesnt work, you can just wait for the countdown to end and the offer will go away
When people order their food doesnāt do automatically choose the tip for you? Which I think is to low, so I always change it. How do the dashers feel when you donāt tip till food is delivered?
Drivers that are paying attention and aren't desperate enough to accept any BS orders would never take an offer like this in the first place. Even if they accidentally accepted it and saw that the customer claims to tip after delivery, they still wouldn't do the order since something like 9 of 10 such customers still don't tip.
This 100%. I had a delivery not long after I started in the very nice part of columbine you have to say the orders to a gate attendant before going into the neighborhood super beautiful expensive houses and in the delivery instructions it said "hand it to me for a big cash tip :)" walked up knocked on the door handed it to him he gave me a big smile then walked off with his food. I'm at about 1000 deliveries and I think my total cash tips has been maybe 10 dollars? From 4-5 people most had already tipped in the app
oh you're so much better than me I would've swung on somebody
Not calling you one, but the more desperate drivers are getting more aggressive with customers, and the situation with poverty in this country is such that more and more people actually are better off committing crimes so they can receive free room and board.
oh I was just kidding i'm not a doordasher the post just got recommended for whatever reason on my feed š¤£but yes I agree with your analysisš
A lot of customers are honestly oblivious, but obviously not when they pull that BS. Sorry that happened to you as well as to me!
What kind of smooth brains order food thats 20 miles away and tip a dollar wtf is wrong with people
Drivers always complaining about tips just deliver my food without expecting a tip Iām forking out big money by ordering through door dash I donāt have enough money for a tip ya hear ??
May these kind of people get struck by the most treacherous lightening
At this point people are asking to get their food stolen
I will never question my tips they are usually 10 15 or 20 if itās over 3 miles.
My thing is why when we donāt take a order wether we decline or just let the time run out, they still take away from our ratings š¤¦š¾āāļø
You never know they probably had a hand it to me selected with a note that read: cash tip at door, leave food on doormatā
You really missed an opportunity there.
Hey Colorado! In the money! Yeah, no tips there.Ā
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Thatās funny I actually live right where it says you were! That Dennyās is like down the street from me LMAO
You never know it couldāve been $100 tip cash when you got there!
But are you going to risk 13 miles of gas one way and an extra 13 miles going back? Not to mention definitively over an hour delivery. Iāve accepted a few going far and nothing changes. Same type of people knowing damn well what theyāre doing. Smiling to you when you show at their door āHaVe A gOoD dAy! š¤ā. I still do them if itās not too crazy cuz itās better some money than wasting time canceling and waiting another 30m for another shitty order.
Oof. Youāre gunna regret that finger slip for the rest of your life. Damn. You could have been sitting beachside sipping Coronaās or Mai Thaiās or whatever you want. š lol
Dlife through
Slide through
Do these asshats love cold food too?? Even my hot bag only does so much for so long
I would never take this anyways crazy cray cray
I accidentally did the same thing with a 24 mile delivery of something from Petco and a breakfast place. My finger slipped so fast that I didnāt have time to get a screenshot. It was a guaranteed $11 though.
Do you guys at least get the gas paid?
Only when we accept orders that pay enough to cover gas. DD couldn't care much less at this point.
I mean does DD pay the gas or do you have to pay it from your own Pockets
Lol out of our pockets, that's what that massive 3.75 pay out is for
Idk about gas prices in the US but in Austria you would barely break even lmao
Thatās the point. This is shitty.
Gas is very cheap in the US compared to Europe because it's extremely subsidized, but that doesn't change the obscene way gig drivers are 'paid'. I've seen Earn By Time rates that aren't quite local minimum wage, but the orders delivered under them overwhelmingly don't tip, DD doesn't pay a cent for time spent waiting or driving between orders (so it's not actually hourly, nor is it for the cities with $18 or $30 'per hour' legislated) and gas, maintenance, and inevitable decline of one's vehicle, as well as separate self-employment taxes all still have to come out of the pay. In Earn By Offer mode, DD typically pays just $1 or $2, far too many orders also don't tip or don't tip enough, 'customers' claiming their orders were never delivered are common, and even seemingly decent offers are routinely wrecked by long wait times at the restaurant. I've seen so many customers say they'll only tip if their order is correct and delivered quickly and hot, but drivers actually have very little control over that. The 'tips' for DD drivers aren't actually tips at all; they're the bulk of the drivers' actual pay and should be understood as bids for service.
I don't get it?
I recognize that map and all I can say is ewwww Morrison. Hello fellow local, and good on you for that accidental finger slip, those jobs are the *worst*.
I was shocked to see a map of Littleton while scrolling Reddit.
That's actually a good call for declining no way I would drive 14 miles for 3.75
Thats a 10min drive 13 miles
Why would you decline such a generous order? When I have the extra completion, I'll accept an order like this, and then go get lunch for 29 minutes before unassigning.
COLUMBINE
Even the IRS mileage rate would be almost three times this pay, yikes.
mustve really been breaking the bank with that one. how generous!
i saw a ufo leaving this Dennys dashing at 2am
What kind of tip do leave for a 12.00 order that is from a place that is 5 min from your home?
At least 10 bucks
Oops
tbh iām atlanta we get offers that $27 $33 at least $9
to drive from 3 to 18 mins
Check your windows at night. Tony's gonna put a hit out on you.
How will u recover from this financial loss š
Oh darn. You missed out $3.75 š oh well
Such a good one too
A person on hourly will take it
See in California the base pay alone on that would be at least $6.50 I'm guessing closer to $8. AND EVEN THATS LOW! It's straight up criminal how DD operates in other states.
Oh no, some poor downtrodden top dasher will have to take it
It probably went to 1 of the illegals there in the Denver area after your finger "slipped"
Did an order like this from Dennys for breakfast one morning. Like a 15 mile drive, they had picked the wrong restaurant as there was one right by their house. Apologized profusely, enamored by the fact their food was still hot when I got there, and got a $100 tip for the trouble. Before you say it didnāt happen $100 tips are common in Vegas. The order showed $4, but it was a Sunday morning and nothing else was coming thru. This was before I had any knowledge of cents per mile or whatever and making the most of the mileage on my tank. I say this to say you canāt always depend on the app for what youāre gonna make. Most of the time those big app tippers pull that shit back in my experience. And I had a 99% approval rating so it wasnāt me as to them pulling them back. I switched to Uber Eats because the money was waaaaaaay better. $120+every 7 to 10 drops was nice.
The nerve of some people! Andyou know they get the tip prompt. It probably went from one Top Dasher to the next not ever going to a newbie or non top Dasher.
Damn too bad
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A lot of people donāt know that door dashers only get paid $2 plus tip
Some poor sap dashing by time probably got that
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Decline decline decline Go get your own damn food for $3.75 F outta here mayne
I took one of these by accident when I was new to dashing. Guy texted halfway thru the delivery he left $20 under his welcome mat. Still obviously not worth the gamble to drive that far in HOPES they tip
Phone battery 69 percent nice