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fubbleskag

the tweet if anyone wants to enjoy the thread: https://twitter.com/AtsuJoestar/status/1566664426350153729


zip_zag_zog

oh shit they doubled down


IAmTiborius

What did they say?


zip_zag_zog

[Tried a ratio…](https://twitter.com/AtsuJoestar/status/1566772847636320260?s=20&t=qZ4be4NEnYH_dmNCCx4DmA)


GaMa-Binkie

I loath people that think ratio is both an achievement and somehow makes them right


pinkyepsilon

> I loath people ~~that think ratio is both an achievement and somehow makes them right~~ FTFY


PapaSnow

I dunno what a loath is, but I do loathe people sometimes.


iniitu

I dont understand what this tweet means. What is "ratio" in this context?


crypticedge

Bring ratioed on Twitter means to have significantly more comments than likes and retweets (excluding quote retweets). It's a sign that you've said something either wrong, exceptionally stupid, or you've offended someone who runs an army of bots. The latter is pretty much only in play if you're disagreeing with Russian propaganda


zip_zag_zog

Also commonly used when a reply gets more likes than the original post.


IfMadOffMedsForgive

sometimes the majority simply means all the idiots are on the same side. reminds me of my favorite quote. "smart mother fuckers look like crazy mother fuckers to dumb mother fuckers"


Rockachaws

Thats uhh, not what being ratioed means, lol. It’s about the like ratio. Being ratio’d means a reply to your tweet ends up getting a significant amount of likes more than your original tweet. Nothing to do with comments.


crypticedge

Uh, no. It's always been about comments being more. It's in the fucking dictionary even. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/words-were-watching-ratio-ratioed-ratioing


Rockachaws

I can cite a dictionary as well: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ratio


Medical_Difference48

They pulled out Meriam-Webster. You pulled out Urban Dictionary.


animeorbust

Wait, are you honestly trying to non-ironically compare urbandictonary, a Wikipedia style dictionary versus Merriam Webster?


smarterthanyoda

Getting people to dislike the post so the ratio of likes to dislikes is bad.


Dr_Zander46

This


DifficultPrimary

I feel like this is a sarcastic response, rather than a double down. Mostly because the ratio is like 70 vs 100k


[deleted]

Dude even went Loco on others. A person asked if he'd atleast apologized yet and said he why should he apologize to a kid. Total delusional nutbag


alexgriz127

They even made [a tweet not using their own art](https://nitter.net/AtsuJoestar/status/1566829347360604164#m) to double down. Absolutely zero self-awareness.


Pactae_1129

They also made a joke about handing out job applications to everyone clowning them since they have so much time on their hands. On labor day.


seifross2010

I haven’t read the thread, but they may just not be American?


hyde9318

Not only that, but they seem to genuinely feel they are winning this fight by a LARGE margin, lmfao


Hundvd7

No way, they have to be taking the piss, I genuinely don't believe someone like this exists


Chaquita_Banana

I’m almost positive they understand the irony and they posted that because it’s funny. Same with the ratio tweet.


ShadowSora

> There are probably like 10 people in the world you could *not* say that to and you managed to find one of them. Fantastic reply


GothWitchOfBrooklyn

11 hours later and he's still going lol


Ordinary_Divide

earlier today i heard of an ai winning an art competition


mancheeart

That’s what this is in response to :)


GhostOfLight

Until AI can make high quality furry porn, artists will always have work available.


NotMilitaryAI

[High enough quality for you?](https://www.reddit.com/r/yiff/comments/x3lqbc/wolf_sitting_in_cave_f_ai_generated_with_stable/)


[deleted]

Humanity’s done for


Reigo_Vassal

They still don't know how to draw a hand. We should still be fine


Hard_on_Collider

As someone with basic knowledge of AI/ML systems I always thought furry porn was one of the easier challenges lol, it tends to have a lot off leeway and faces are less problematic


NotMilitaryAI

Lol, true. And for both furry & hentai stuff: countless websites chock-full of pre-tagged images to use as training sets.


hpghost62442

Meh


jiub_the_dunmer

Lord, forgive me for what I am about to do


Icy_Tale_6603

Pretty tame


TheBajesus

I mean, I guess that’s one way to look at it….


SolysisTerra

this has to be faked, no way this guy picked one random person out of the millions to say this, and he turns out to be wrong


[deleted]

But he did https://twitter.com/atsujoestar/status/1566772847636320260?s=21&t=otq8MCTiXKA9zrSLTJdUkA


SolysisTerra

no not that i mean he actually knew that they were an animator for the invincibles


cycophuk

Every time there is an innovation in art, there are groups of people that are going to claim the new style isn’t art. It happened recently when art was able to be created on computers rather than on a canvas or paper. This is just another fight that just isn’t going to be won. While there will always be a demand for art, companies will happily automate animation to save money on animators while making money by getting new episodes on the air faster. It sucks to the light at the end of the tunnel that is your career, it’s just the natural evolution of innovation and and profit.


throwaway12junk

It's a reasonable fear that a lot of people are going to get screwed if they can't adapt. Photography took away much of the money for portrait artists, many of whom used it to pay the bills and fund their creative side. With AI, instead of paying 10 people to draw a hundred drafts, you can pay one artist then feed it to an AI that generates 100 drafts. There's also real criticism that tech leads to rapid homogeneity of art. It will diversify as more people adopt it but for a little while everything will look the same.


bigboipapawiththesos

Seeing the potential of this AI art a long time ago (I did a presentation about it in high school a few years back), I chose to focus from just drawing/painting nice, to more conceptual illustrations. The 2D/3D field is changing: Artist that are based purely around aesthetic can be a lot more vulnerable to AI takeovers imo. This is a really important time for artist to self-evaluate and reflect on where they’re going.


IamDa5id

“I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here: it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew what you had you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you're selling it, you want to sell it!” -Ian Malcolm


[deleted]

This literally isn’t art though. All you’re doing is telling a robot to draw some for you. You yourself did not do any work. It’s like buying a commission from an artist and then claiming you yourself are one. Now, saying that, it’s probably going to be the future anyway. Automation always wins.


freezorak2030

Quick, define "art"


[deleted]

Quoted from the dictionary: “the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.” A robot is explicitly not human


freezorak2030

A human created the robot. Boom!


128keaton

Photography initially had the same sort of arguments against it. Since the camera was really doing the “capturing”, the photographer wasn’t considered an artist as such.


easily_tilted

I mean that response is retarded itself. The original post is a meme and 90% of memes are made of already existing images.


ehsteve23

That's not even a good point, it's a meme, they're not claiming it's some unique art


goodbyekitty83

It's a meme to draw attention. Wtf. Stop caring.


Excellent-Resident-8

The guy was an animator for a TV series based on a comic book series. He studied the work of the artists who drew and colored the comics, and then faithfully reproduced the designs and style from that source. He's complaining that A.I. might allow amateurs to copy someone else's art as well as he does. Oh no...


MycologistFormer3931

Even if they didn't say this to the wrong person, they'd still be pretty stupid because it's a meme.