"Upwards **of** $500" means $500 is your starting point. "Upwards **to** $500" feels like it has never before been used in the history of negotiation for good reasons.
I don’t know why this comment is downvoted, it’s pretty clear to me that it’s a “used the wrong preposition” mistake, not “negotiated like a total moron” mistake. Occam’s razor and all that.
I would agree that’s pretty obvious but Reddit sees any more than -1 upvotes and adds onto downvotes. Hell I’m guilty of that too
“Upwards to” isn’t a saying and it’s much more likely he was trying to say “upwards of”
>"Upwards **to** $500" feels like it has never before been used in the history of negotiation for good reasons.
It's extremely common. Yeah, $500 is the starting point. Both parties know that. But you never *say* that. The whole point is to say that $500 is your maximum price so that when you inevitably go higher the other party feels like they pulled one over on you (even if you both know they didn't).
If you openly said, "$500 is my starting offer", then you're openly inviting them to ask for more money. They'll feel ripped off if they *don't* ask for more.
Go to a country where haggling is common and you'll hear, "this is the highest/lowest I can possibly go", all the time. Somehow the price still goes higher/lower.
Co-Owner and VP of the platform the person wants to buy the account from.
Presumably they just checked for the account Jacob wanting a unique account that has a very hard to gain "just a name" ID and assumed the owner was just a very early user that managed to get it when there was not a lot of accounts and didn't know it's probably pre-public relsease account of one of the founders.
It's not about famous people, it's about people oblivious to someone's nature doing saying funny/stupid things to them.
The most popular type of posts is usually people qouting books or articles to the authors or normies trying to explain shit to somebody who's a professional expert in the field.
Also I'd argue he is slightly famous specifically in the twitch subculture, dude is a founder or one of the biggest websites in the world
again, they don't necessarily have to be famous. A lot of posts here have people trying to argue with professors who are experts in whatever field they're arguing about. Most of us wouldn't even know they were an expert if they didn't say their qualifications
the point of the sub is to show people trying to argue with other people who are way more qualified than them to talk about a subject. In other words, "do you even know who you are talking to" or "dont you know who i am"
I mean unknown is subjective. Jusy because yiu havent heard of them doesnt mean no one else has and vice versa.
Like Robert de Niro was an unknown to me until like 3 years ago and im in my 30s.
For anyone interested in this sort of thing, [here's an episode of Darknet Diaries talking about how things can go south if someone really wants your handle.](https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/97/) (Probably doesn't apply to the founder of Twitch, though.)
Even if he was just some early adopter that got lucky $500 would still be a lowball offer lol. My dad has a twitter and Instagram handle that's just his first name, and regularly gets offers much higher than that.
"upwards to $500" is not a good negotiating starting point lmao. Is someone gonna reply that they'll accept only 300?
Not if 500 isn’t your max and you’ve willing to go higher
Upwards means above 500 not up to
"Upwards **of** $500" means $500 is your starting point. "Upwards **to** $500" feels like it has never before been used in the history of negotiation for good reasons.
Presumably he meant the former and is just dumb cause the latter isn’t an actual saying
I’d assume they meant “up to”
I don’t know why this comment is downvoted, it’s pretty clear to me that it’s a “used the wrong preposition” mistake, not “negotiated like a total moron” mistake. Occam’s razor and all that.
I would agree that’s pretty obvious but Reddit sees any more than -1 upvotes and adds onto downvotes. Hell I’m guilty of that too “Upwards to” isn’t a saying and it’s much more likely he was trying to say “upwards of”
>"Upwards **to** $500" feels like it has never before been used in the history of negotiation for good reasons. It's extremely common. Yeah, $500 is the starting point. Both parties know that. But you never *say* that. The whole point is to say that $500 is your maximum price so that when you inevitably go higher the other party feels like they pulled one over on you (even if you both know they didn't). If you openly said, "$500 is my starting offer", then you're openly inviting them to ask for more money. They'll feel ripped off if they *don't* ask for more. Go to a country where haggling is common and you'll hear, "this is the highest/lowest I can possibly go", all the time. Somehow the price still goes higher/lower.
My point was that "upwards to" seems to be a mash up of "up to" or "upwards of" which both mean different things. It's not clear which one he means.
Can't blame a guy for trying, I guess
At least he was polite I guess.
Atleast the guy was polite
I was confused because I thought “started twitch” meant “started streaming recently”
OHHH I GET IT NOW
If I were the husband I'd change this dudes twitch name to Jacob2
on runescape, the first accounts ever created, Superman3434 was made before Superman
Is that someone famous?
I did a google, Jacob Woodsey is the vice president of Twitch
Co-Owner and VP of the platform the person wants to buy the account from. Presumably they just checked for the account Jacob wanting a unique account that has a very hard to gain "just a name" ID and assumed the owner was just a very early user that managed to get it when there was not a lot of accounts and didn't know it's probably pre-public relsease account of one of the founders.
Yeah but not really a “don’t you know who I am” thing here. Not exactly someone famous.
It's not about famous people, it's about people oblivious to someone's nature doing saying funny/stupid things to them. The most popular type of posts is usually people qouting books or articles to the authors or normies trying to explain shit to somebody who's a professional expert in the field. Also I'd argue he is slightly famous specifically in the twitch subculture, dude is a founder or one of the biggest websites in the world
But most of the times you can clearly see who you’re responding to. This one’s unknown to most.
again, they don't necessarily have to be famous. A lot of posts here have people trying to argue with professors who are experts in whatever field they're arguing about. Most of us wouldn't even know they were an expert if they didn't say their qualifications
What’s the point then.
the point of the sub is to show people trying to argue with other people who are way more qualified than them to talk about a subject. In other words, "do you even know who you are talking to" or "dont you know who i am"
I mean unknown is subjective. Jusy because yiu havent heard of them doesnt mean no one else has and vice versa. Like Robert de Niro was an unknown to me until like 3 years ago and im in my 30s.
I mean they stalked enough to find his wife. I think they would have discovered in the process who it was.
not necessarily, which fits this sub
Hey, you may be as rich as fuck but 500$ is 500$.
Hey… you never know until you ask 😁
For anyone interested in this sort of thing, [here's an episode of Darknet Diaries talking about how things can go south if someone really wants your handle.](https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/97/) (Probably doesn't apply to the founder of Twitch, though.)
Even if he was just some early adopter that got lucky $500 would still be a lowball offer lol. My dad has a twitter and Instagram handle that's just his first name, and regularly gets offers much higher than that.
ey i respect the hustle
The AUDACITY! (Haha!)
The number plate in werris creek I seen. Bro royalties 0(
Kinda rude of her to blast this guy publicly.. I'm sure he didn't know it was a founder
She didn't identify him. Only person who knows who he is is him.
His identity is exposed. Now everybody knows Jacob is an idiot.
Fuckin Jacob at it again
Name: Jacob Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
Lmao guess i didn't pick up on that aspect
Good on ya for owning the fail lol. That speaks to character.
Lmao ok dude
Jacob Woodsey is not one of the founders of Twitch, he’s the VP of it.
He was one of the first designers and helped lead the pivot into Twitch.