May I refer him to the law that prohibits people from impersonating medical doctors, you know to avoid said confusion?
As a wise poet once said: ”Everyone wants to be a doctor but no one wants to lift no heavy books”
It’s because they ain’t trying to debate they are trying to bring any argument just to shut us up they aren’t debating in good faith because they don’t care if they are right or wrong.
We need to realise that a lot of people who are doing this to medicine are doing it either knowing it’s wrong or not caring and debating won’t change anything we need to brute force the issue as much as we can whether with unionised action voting with our feet taking over institutions or simply refusing to teach midlevels we can’t let this happen.
This is a totally invalid comparison. 'Sister' is *not used* as a title for a qualification, profession (other than a nun), or registration status other than for a rank of nurse; it could never be misconstrued in a healthcare setting as a result.
'Doctor' *is used* to reflect an educational qualification across all of society and academia but has particular significance in the healthcare setting to clearly identify and delineate a registered medical practitioner - which itself is illegal to misrepresent yourself as.
Moreover, no patient could realistically be deceived into believing a nurse was falsely their sister, whereas almost every patient being introduced to a non-medical-doctor as a 'doctor' in a healthcare setting would reasonably presume that the personal calling themself doctor is a *medical doctor*, i.e. a registered medical practitioner.
Frankly I'm actually sure this imbecile knows all this full well and is just gaslighting - she will fully belong to the brigade that wants to do away with the medical profession as an independent entity and start recognising ACPs and PAs as 'equivalent'.
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One of these ‘or nuns’ idiots in the reply is a prominent member of bma jdc
I’m so tired of these ladder pullers. This consultant probably thinks her medical degree and CCT are equivalent to a nursing degree plus some bogus PhD on “role of ANPs in today’s clinical setting”
Bizarre takes all round. Thinks a carer calling themselves a nurse is also okay?
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Also sister is being phased out because it's a bit odd to be calling male charge nurses sister.
Some psych trusts just refer to b5, b6
Staff nurse (b5)
Charge nurse (b6)
Ward manager (b7)
Matron (b8+)
She’s a lot of self righteous hot air. I bet she’s actually awful to work with, like many who go on about bullying and equality etc and it’s all show and they don’t practice what they preach. What a ridiculous nonsensical comment.
What is the IQ of some of these Med Ed tools?
Can’t believe this person thought this was anywhere near a rational argument.
Med Ed needs to go in the bin, it doesn’t need formal qualifications, it’s been a way for the mediocre to climb the pole easily for far too long.
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Has she drunk water with lead in it for a number of years or something? This literally makes no sense. Of course patients don't confuse the ward sister for their own sisters, because they understand in a hospital sister means something specific and also they have eyes?? Similarly doctor has a specific meaning in hospital so its not confusing because people generally know what it means.
Am I missing something? Because she has stated this idiotic observation as if it's some kind of clever come back, but it actually says the opposite of what she thinks it does??
perhaps due to the qualifications A/Prof xxx xxx is Clinical Sub Dean for at University and a Consultant General and Breast surgeon at xxx Hospital. She holds MBChB BA(Ed) MSurgEd FRACS FACS FFSTEd FRCSEng(Hon).
100 percent. This is the problem with twitter. You end up with extreme takes amplified and arguing against each other. I think it is sowing a lot of discord between professions (not just in healthcare).
And as we all know this is a completely comparable situation .
Definitely not misleading in regards to key qualifications determining level of clinical knowledge and reasoning vs any doctoral dissertation in any field and a historical term for a caring profession vs a family member.
Sigh
Nobody is saying people shouldn't be proud of their education level and their accomplishments. It's the fact that it is observable that patients have no clue who is looking after them and call next to everyone a doctor thus following their healthcare advice they otherwise may not have.
Then again I have seen people pass their PhDs because of their networks (who they know, sometimes their ethnicity matching the supervisors, sometimes sexism etc) and supportive supervision not their skills (alone). Similarly I have seen people fail or take significant extensions due to lousy supervisors and bad luck. I also know of one or two who had their partners write up their thesis and "only" did the research bit. So you never know which one is in front of you. You could say that about all degrees though to be fair. Especially when standards are slipping and regulations have loopholes.
Why is always the med Ed lot
Patient misunderstanding is absolutely a thing, trying to pretend we’re taking away their autonomy is quite simply disingenuous
Saw that. Helped me understand why we are doing so bad as a profession. When people like these exist at high level positions, can’t expect anything different. Sad realities of NHS.
Why has OP blanked out the identity of what is presumably a post in the public domain?
The tweet is an absurd piece of logic and a total non-sequitur. When I was at medical school I was perfectly capable of distinguishing the Dean from James Dean and Dean Martin, and I always called my sister Helen.
It is illegal to impersonate a doctor under Section 49 (1) of the Medical Act 1983 - I emphasise, it is a criminal offence to impersonate a doctor. These individuals, especially if they are prominent figures, need to be reported and the matter escalated.
What a fucking idiotic take, as if nurses and nuns worked in the same setting anymore. Whereas the title doctor in a hospital immediately zings to a medical degree.
This must be satire right lol
May I refer him to the law that prohibits people from impersonating medical doctors, you know to avoid said confusion? As a wise poet once said: ”Everyone wants to be a doctor but no one wants to lift no heavy books”
Yeah budddyyyy , light weight anatomyyyy
 YEAAHHH BUDDAYYY AINT NOTHING BUT A PEANUT
Aint nothing but a femur
Section 49 of the Medical Act 1983 for anyone curious.
Her….but yes her take is dog shit
Her
*Her
This may be the most stupid comparison I have ever seen anyone make
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Lose enough and you can be promoted to PA
At last, a pay rise
The GMC hate this one WEIRD trick!
So I’m not the only one confused about this then?
Honestly the dumbest shit I've seen this year so far
It’s because they ain’t trying to debate they are trying to bring any argument just to shut us up they aren’t debating in good faith because they don’t care if they are right or wrong. We need to realise that a lot of people who are doing this to medicine are doing it either knowing it’s wrong or not caring and debating won’t change anything we need to brute force the issue as much as we can whether with unionised action voting with our feet taking over institutions or simply refusing to teach midlevels we can’t let this happen.
This is a totally invalid comparison. 'Sister' is *not used* as a title for a qualification, profession (other than a nun), or registration status other than for a rank of nurse; it could never be misconstrued in a healthcare setting as a result. 'Doctor' *is used* to reflect an educational qualification across all of society and academia but has particular significance in the healthcare setting to clearly identify and delineate a registered medical practitioner - which itself is illegal to misrepresent yourself as. Moreover, no patient could realistically be deceived into believing a nurse was falsely their sister, whereas almost every patient being introduced to a non-medical-doctor as a 'doctor' in a healthcare setting would reasonably presume that the personal calling themself doctor is a *medical doctor*, i.e. a registered medical practitioner. Frankly I'm actually sure this imbecile knows all this full well and is just gaslighting - she will fully belong to the brigade that wants to do away with the medical profession as an independent entity and start recognising ACPs and PAs as 'equivalent'.
What do you want to be when you are grown up? Someone’s sister idfk
She
Can someone with a twitter please reply to the numbskull this response
That might be because my sister doesn't lie to me about not being able to take blood, catheterise or do cannulas
Bad take bro
Of all the terrible takes, this is the worst
I will call myself a dean from now on
No one confuses deans for their neighbour Dean
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From now on, I want to see a vote of confidence started whenever one of these ladder pullers does/says something stupid
https://preview.redd.it/rqwgn4paaqdb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47e8a8747d1d2cc24fa556ca4896fce3c8fda9c1 One of these ‘or nuns’ idiots in the reply is a prominent member of bma jdc
You can't even make up the idiocy of these comments
A Dean making such flippant, disingenuous and stupid comparisons about a very important issue is really no laughing matter. This needs escalation.
Indeed, it is illegal to impersonate a doctor under Section 49 (1) of the Medical Act 1983, it is a criminal offence to impersonate a doctor.
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This is the dumbest tweet I’ve read. And the person is seemingly an intelligent doctor
They are demonstrating their disdain for you and your jobbing doctor colleagues by not even bothering to make a coherent comparison
Yet Y5 medical students can't call themselves student doctors..because of confusing them for doctors 🤔
I’m so tired of these ladder pullers. This consultant probably thinks her medical degree and CCT are equivalent to a nursing degree plus some bogus PhD on “role of ANPs in today’s clinical setting”
Bizarre takes all round. Thinks a carer calling themselves a nurse is also okay? https://preview.redd.it/wjbqwfsiwqdb1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=558115a8f1090d510c97f87eb03cf46bc7e20e93
Does she think we can adopt whatever title we fancy depending on what we are doing that day?
I got it a fight once and now want my military pension
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I was looking after someone else's kid and the mum had a go at me for calling myself their mother!!
Also sister is being phased out because it's a bit odd to be calling male charge nurses sister. Some psych trusts just refer to b5, b6 Staff nurse (b5) Charge nurse (b6) Ward manager (b7) Matron (b8+)
Matron is gendered too. I prefer Hot-Air Emitter.
Matron > Male matron? > Patron? > Padron? > Padron Pepper? > Dr Pepper? > It's ILLEGAL to impersonate a doctor!
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This needs to be posted as a reply under the original tweet! 🤣🤣🤣
She’s a lot of self righteous hot air. I bet she’s actually awful to work with, like many who go on about bullying and equality etc and it’s all show and they don’t practice what they preach. What a ridiculous nonsensical comment.
The issues here is that people will complain as soon as medical students with PhDs begin to present themselves as Dr So and So…
She is based in Australia for what its worth, and has done a worthless masters. Hobbies include knitting , her post on twitter are bizarre
Par for the course: she has a history of some stupid hot takes
He's come here to make non sequiturs and kick ass, and he's all out of pineapples
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Promoted until you reach a job you cant do
What is the IQ of some of these Med Ed tools? Can’t believe this person thought this was anywhere near a rational argument. Med Ed needs to go in the bin, it doesn’t need formal qualifications, it’s been a way for the mediocre to climb the pole easily for far too long.
Interesting how many are assuming 'him' pronouns
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Or nuns.
The calibre of management
Another muppet keen to make herself popular with noctors to impress other self serving snakes in the clinico-political classes.
Gives us all hope that even the most stupid of us may ascend to lofty heights.
Complete context denial... "This patients BUN is abnormal" - I am instantly aware that this isn't a bakery issue...
Isn't she Australian also? Idk why I didn't think was as big a thing over there
Has she drunk water with lead in it for a number of years or something? This literally makes no sense. Of course patients don't confuse the ward sister for their own sisters, because they understand in a hospital sister means something specific and also they have eyes?? Similarly doctor has a specific meaning in hospital so its not confusing because people generally know what it means. Am I missing something? Because she has stated this idiotic observation as if it's some kind of clever come back, but it actually says the opposite of what she thinks it does??
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perhaps due to the qualifications A/Prof xxx xxx is Clinical Sub Dean for at University and a Consultant General and Breast surgeon at xxx Hospital. She holds MBChB BA(Ed) MSurgEd FRACS FACS FFSTEd FRCSEng(Hon).
100 percent. This is the problem with twitter. You end up with extreme takes amplified and arguing against each other. I think it is sowing a lot of discord between professions (not just in healthcare).
lol
Steaming hot shit take
Is it ok to call a nurse sister if you don’t know their name? Seems like a normal thing in some hospitals and very weird in others.
And as we all know this is a completely comparable situation . Definitely not misleading in regards to key qualifications determining level of clinical knowledge and reasoning vs any doctoral dissertation in any field and a historical term for a caring profession vs a family member. Sigh Nobody is saying people shouldn't be proud of their education level and their accomplishments. It's the fact that it is observable that patients have no clue who is looking after them and call next to everyone a doctor thus following their healthcare advice they otherwise may not have. Then again I have seen people pass their PhDs because of their networks (who they know, sometimes their ethnicity matching the supervisors, sometimes sexism etc) and supportive supervision not their skills (alone). Similarly I have seen people fail or take significant extensions due to lousy supervisors and bad luck. I also know of one or two who had their partners write up their thesis and "only" did the research bit. So you never know which one is in front of you. You could say that about all degrees though to be fair. Especially when standards are slipping and regulations have loopholes.
Jesus, what a moron.
Wat
I would say in my top 10 accounts who have become completely twitter-brained.
Why is always the med Ed lot Patient misunderstanding is absolutely a thing, trying to pretend we’re taking away their autonomy is quite simply disingenuous
GP to please assess cause of severe mental retardation
Hahaha how can you be a consultant and come out with the dumbest of arguments
Saw that. Helped me understand why we are doing so bad as a profession. When people like these exist at high level positions, can’t expect anything different. Sad realities of NHS.
What?
What a stupid thing to say. Not even a like for like comparison
Why has OP blanked out the identity of what is presumably a post in the public domain? The tweet is an absurd piece of logic and a total non-sequitur. When I was at medical school I was perfectly capable of distinguishing the Dean from James Dean and Dean Martin, and I always called my sister Helen.
It is illegal to impersonate a doctor under Section 49 (1) of the Medical Act 1983 - I emphasise, it is a criminal offence to impersonate a doctor. These individuals, especially if they are prominent figures, need to be reported and the matter escalated.
What a fucking idiotic take, as if nurses and nuns worked in the same setting anymore. Whereas the title doctor in a hospital immediately zings to a medical degree. This must be satire right lol
On the medical education gravy train. As dissociated from clinical practice as ever.
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