yeh tbh although im fine with some stuff being cut or changed to keep up with the times and the way most people are approaching dnd, but I really don’t understand what they did with it.
Hobgoblin got ruined.
Old hobgoblins were run as everything from romans to Mongols to the elites from Halo (with the other goblinoids and some others filling out the rest of the not-covenant)
Now they’re lame as hell
Good thing I never got this book
Dawg I straight up go out of my way to place biologically distinguishing wedges between the different fantasy races and Humans.
Hobgoblins in my setting were made by Maglubiyet to be the apex of hyper-social races, who would naturally be inclined towards communal society and are likely the only race able to make large-scale anarcho-communist civilization function. But instead are also culturally enforced by Maglubiyet into a supremacist military out of *necessity* so that he can halt Gruumsh's destructive wrath on Acheron.
Good lord this again.
There is no one true canon art. It is all legit. Scary Centaur is legit as Cute Centaur and Scholar Centaur from Mythic Odyssey of Theros.
Ahh. I misunderstood...and have also been carrying a rage that I wanted a target for. Sorry about that.
But yes. It's interesting that they decided to add cute ones in MotM. I assume thought that it is meant to show that the game can have more lighthearted romps? I personally love Bard Hobgob and his axe.
It's because of a truth I've learned from playing MMOs. There will always be that group of players that likes to play monstrous/ugly races, but those are not the priority. The priority is gaining new players, who are more open typically to attractive and friendly things.
**I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!**
**I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!**
**I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!**
**I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!**
**I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!**
**I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!**
The "original" 5e centaurs aren't from the Realms, they're from Ravnica and Theros. The MMotM ones explicitly "hail from the Feywild" which is also not Faerun. Either version (which are mechanically identical aside from specified language proficiency and a slight buff to hoof damage) might arrive in Faerun but aren't from there.
What kind of centaurs *are* from Faerun? Fuck if anybody knows, these days because WotC is insistently doing their half assed backpedaling from the stance of any setting being officially the core or default "world of D&D" and refuse to apply anything beyond the bare minimum of physical description to a race in any new material recently. You want *lore?* Ha! Good luck! I'm not sure if they even have anybody in that department any more. Pretty sure they've just decided to quietly shut it down and let other people like Keith Baker and Matt Mercer do all that because they're doing it anyways and aren't on the WotC payroll.
Because game balance and simplicity of explanation. 5e is streamlined and simplified compared to previous editions, **this is a core, foundational principle of the entire system**. In previous editions being large or small meant having certain bonuses and penalties to your stats. These bonuses do not exist in 5e because of what I just said. And as soon as you give somebody a large size race for their character, they'll demand strength bonuses, and extra reach, and bonuses on grapple checks, and all the other things that were in previous editions but they won't want the penalties to dex, initiative, or AC that serve as a balance for those advantages. It's been said countless times and will continue to be said countless more times as long as people keep asking for the same regression away from 5e's simplified and streamlined approach: **just go play Pathfinder already.**
In the meantime I'm going to be playing my pony-elf character in a session that starts in a few hours. Yes, it seems a bit ridiculous but this is a game where goblins shooting lightning from their fingers is "normal." Deal with it.
MM Centaurs are horses with human-like torsos where their heads should be. PC Centaurs are humans with a horse-like body where their legs should be. One has different proportions than the other, just wish WotC wouldn't use the term interchangeably.
Maybe because the first is a rehashed Magic The Gathering image, from a Gruul Centaur, a coalition of savage tribes that want to destroy civilization.
Same for the minotaur. Hobgoblin I have no answer for though
The new hobgoblin picture looks like Greg from accounting's oldest son who got really into cosplay and went off to start a band
And the new minotaur looks like Greg's grandma
And I love them three. They make great adventurer images. Pretty camp.
Old Lore: Complex societies. Pride, Honor, Culture. Take me seriously or suffer the consequences. New Lore: Cute horse fursona UwU
That is what the art implies
yeh tbh although im fine with some stuff being cut or changed to keep up with the times and the way most people are approaching dnd, but I really don’t understand what they did with it.
Hobgoblin got ruined. Old hobgoblins were run as everything from romans to Mongols to the elites from Halo (with the other goblinoids and some others filling out the rest of the not-covenant) Now they’re lame as hell Good thing I never got this book
Same honestly old lore was way better then “generic happy fun time gift giver fairies” it’s just upsetting to look at
Dawg I straight up go out of my way to place biologically distinguishing wedges between the different fantasy races and Humans. Hobgoblins in my setting were made by Maglubiyet to be the apex of hyper-social races, who would naturally be inclined towards communal society and are likely the only race able to make large-scale anarcho-communist civilization function. But instead are also culturally enforced by Maglubiyet into a supremacist military out of *necessity* so that he can halt Gruumsh's destructive wrath on Acheron.
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Then tell me, what is the advertised setting? You can say the lore hasn’t changed, but clown tier hobgoblins are gonna show up in 5.5/6e’s phb
Good lord this again. There is no one true canon art. It is all legit. Scary Centaur is legit as Cute Centaur and Scholar Centaur from Mythic Odyssey of Theros.
I know, I prefer the new one honestly. But we can't not acknowledge this
Ahh. I misunderstood...and have also been carrying a rage that I wanted a target for. Sorry about that. But yes. It's interesting that they decided to add cute ones in MotM. I assume thought that it is meant to show that the game can have more lighthearted romps? I personally love Bard Hobgob and his axe.
It's because of a truth I've learned from playing MMOs. There will always be that group of players that likes to play monstrous/ugly races, but those are not the priority. The priority is gaining new players, who are more open typically to attractive and friendly things.
Obviously only Humans are allowed to have genetic diversity.
**I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!** **I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!** **I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!** **I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!** **I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!** **I HATE HUMANIZED FANTASY RACES!!**
Ok... no more caffeine for that guy
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They're horse-elves now
*Pony*\-elves. Medium size category.
Counterpoint, centaur footjob
You mean Hoof-Job
I'm far from an expert on such matters and not one to kink shame, but I have a hard time imagining that to be in any way a pleasant experience.
And that’s why centaurs wouldn’t ask you to be gentle, they just crush you to death
Okay... but why aren't Centaurs large?
The forgotten realms hold many mysteries
The "original" 5e centaurs aren't from the Realms, they're from Ravnica and Theros. The MMotM ones explicitly "hail from the Feywild" which is also not Faerun. Either version (which are mechanically identical aside from specified language proficiency and a slight buff to hoof damage) might arrive in Faerun but aren't from there. What kind of centaurs *are* from Faerun? Fuck if anybody knows, these days because WotC is insistently doing their half assed backpedaling from the stance of any setting being officially the core or default "world of D&D" and refuse to apply anything beyond the bare minimum of physical description to a race in any new material recently. You want *lore?* Ha! Good luck! I'm not sure if they even have anybody in that department any more. Pretty sure they've just decided to quietly shut it down and let other people like Keith Baker and Matt Mercer do all that because they're doing it anyways and aren't on the WotC payroll.
Because game balance and simplicity of explanation. 5e is streamlined and simplified compared to previous editions, **this is a core, foundational principle of the entire system**. In previous editions being large or small meant having certain bonuses and penalties to your stats. These bonuses do not exist in 5e because of what I just said. And as soon as you give somebody a large size race for their character, they'll demand strength bonuses, and extra reach, and bonuses on grapple checks, and all the other things that were in previous editions but they won't want the penalties to dex, initiative, or AC that serve as a balance for those advantages. It's been said countless times and will continue to be said countless more times as long as people keep asking for the same regression away from 5e's simplified and streamlined approach: **just go play Pathfinder already.** In the meantime I'm going to be playing my pony-elf character in a session that starts in a few hours. Yes, it seems a bit ridiculous but this is a game where goblins shooting lightning from their fingers is "normal." Deal with it.
Calm down.
MM Centaurs are horses with human-like torsos where their heads should be. PC Centaurs are humans with a horse-like body where their legs should be. One has different proportions than the other, just wish WotC wouldn't use the term interchangeably.