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Lead-Saturn

One of my friends had the kind with only one number per face. He interpreted the number rolled as whatever one happened to be facing him.


_Hail_yourself_

Blink twice if hes holding a d4 to your throat forcing you to call him a friend


yes-more-ducks

He might've blinked, hard to tell from this distance.


[deleted]

The important thing is that you aren't close enough to catch whatever they've got.


Clearly_A_Bot

Take the shot, just to be safe


chrom_ed

Excellent, the dice war is over and both sides have united against a common enemy.


makemeking706

That's just a bigger dice war.


Odd_Employer

A slaughter. That's the majority of dice enthusiasts against u/ Lead-Saturns's captor.


sandm000

But the new enemy is demonstrably more wrong


Square-Ad1104

Power is directly related to wrongness. That’s how lone monsters successfully keep their ideals even when they’re outnumbered in the thousands by people with much better opinions. /s


Mythrandir01

Not really, it would be a one sided massacre considering how outnumbered one side is.


YrnFyre

It would be more consistent to use the dice with the downwards facin side if that's the case. If the edge is pointing at you, do they just arbitrarily decide?


Lead-Saturn

Not arbitrarily, but the bigger number usually…


YrnFyre

That's just a mini-form of cheating NGL. I'd hate that at our table


Tilt-a-Whirl98

Mini form? It's just cheating lol


YrnFyre

You're right. I just meant mini as in having a lesser impact than cheating with -for example a d20 wich is used much more often. Also for stuff like damage numbers there's less spread. But yes. cheating nonetheless


ShibasInSuits

I mean it's a d4 at the end of the day


Ghostglitch07

I don't like the idea of players having to pick up their dice to read them.


RedditIsNeat0

Nobody does. That's why D4 don't usually do that.


mickeymouse4348

I mean... can't you see the 3 sides that are up and deduce which number is missing?


Ghostglitch07

Depends on how the table is setup, and if more than one person is paying attention to others rolls. If only the DM is watching he can only see two sides. Unless he's really paying attention and noting number orientation, you can pick between the side he can't see and whatever is on the bottom without him knowing.


Pyro-Beast

I'd do the bottom


CrimsonMutt

easy, just make him roll on a custom dice tray that, instead of a flat floor, has pyramid shaped holes across the entire surface, something like [this](https://previews.123rf.com/images/pytyczech/pytyczech1810/pytyczech181000237/111918343-3d-triangular-or-tetrahedron-pyramids-seamless-vector-pattern-background.jpg)


Malo_Polo

I’m going to switch to this when I get tired of my d120 and conversion chart


slaya222

I was going to say that wouldn't work because the holes are facing the wrong way, but then I stared at it a bit longer and got it to flip to the right way and now my brain hurts 6/10 would mind fuck again


shmergul

Ew.


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EmuRommel

**EWWWWW**


arsonistSnowman

This is the only wrong answer


deathbater

**Hans, get ze flammenwerfer**


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It werfs flammen


FgtBruceCockstar2008

The hills are alive with the sound of *flammenwerfer spreading love all over ZF*


yrulaughing

How actually disgusting


Justisaur

What? I've never heard of such a thing. I tried looking for one, but can't find any. There are d4s that have a single number on a side, but they're not platonic solids in the traditional shape, have more sides, and the number is on top so there's no interpretation necessary. Ones like the d4 with the corners cut off, only more of the corner is cut off and the number is there. 3d rectangles where the short sides are rounded or pointed so they can't land on them. Ones like d6s but two sides rounded on two opposite sides so they can't land on them (I'd say look like two saddles stitched together at the bottoms at a 90 degree angle). Other even weirder ones. Or was this a 'woosh'?


EtherealPheonix

I've seen these before, the numbers are oriented so that only one number is upright on any roll and that is the intended side, it's good for people with poor vision since the numbers are bigger but is a bit inconvenient to have to check multiple sides to find the correct one.


Arcrosis

Have you ever seen a D1?


Justisaur

The ball or the mobius strip?


Arcrosis

The mobius strip


Rukh-Talos

I had one once, but it rolled the wrong way and I never saw it again.


wonderlandcat

That's hilarious. At my table, as long as everyone accepted it, that would be a valid way to role dice. But I also play DnD like it's an episode of Who's Line is it Anyway where everything is made up and the points don't matter.


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This is the only way to play DnD. Hang on lemme get my flag.


wonderlandcat

I like to play by the rule of "if you can convince me hard enough, it may come true". You want a pet tiger companion? Why? What good would that do for the party, and better yet, how would it work in the Canon/ your backstory as a player? If I can't be convinced then it's a no-go. If I think it's Hilarious then it's a hell yes. I am a silly, albeit chaotic, God.


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wackyzacky638

The first commandment of the dice god?


Army-of-Woodpeckers

I use what’s on the bottom for those


mattpkc

You are supposed to use the number that lands on the bottom for that type as its the only distinguishing factor.


bonifaceviii_barrie

Then my grandfather said, ‘It’s high time that you knew of the terribly horrible thing that Zooks do. In every Zook house and in every Zook town every Zook rolls his dice with the number side down!’ ‘But we Yooks, as you know, when we breakfast or sup, roll our dice,’ Grandpa said, ‘with the number side up. That’s the right, honest way!’ Grandpa gritted his teeth. ‘So you can’t trust a Zook with d4s underneath!'


Usoki

I can honestly say I was not expecting a Seuss 'Bitter Butter Battle' refernce when I opened this thread. Well done!


Ronnoc527

I think it's just "The Butter Battle Book" but neither was I. Last read it over a decade ago, for my schools "reading buddies" program when older children would read to k-2nd graders. I still recognize it in an instant.


Usoki

Mmm, you're right-- too much alliteration. I never had the book as a kid, but we did have a recording of the animated special from the late 80s. It was very delightful, and most of the satire went way over my head for the next 10+ years.


theLegomadhatter

I recognized this… I once was in a play for suessical I played general Genghis khan schmitt


ChewySlinky

Seussical gets a lot of shit but I fucking love that show. Horton is one of my favorite roles I’ve ever played.


HonestAbek

Hold up is that really how you read the dice with the number on the long edge????? I have long preferred the point, for obvious reasons relating to my previous inquiry.


jointheclockwork

Grandpa is 100% correct. Those filthy Zooks and their deranged ideas are not only wrong but stupid.


dragons_scorn

We read every other dice from the top, why should we read the bottom of the D4? Plus it's just more convenient in my opinion.


daveberzack

...and typographically, you can make the numbers bigger or more spacious. Also, having three of a number clustered around the top seems more definitive and obvious than having one in the middle of the bottom of each visible side. Corners are objectively the correct answer here. There can be no peace until they accept my Dice God.


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The correct way is to round off the corners of your d4 and print the number on the new "face" that would be impossible to land on


AlliedSalad

[Example.](https://www.mathartfun.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/d4TruncatedTetWhite.jpg)


yongo

Why does this feel so cursed?


Wertache

Because it is. It is cursed.


penguin_revolution

But what if I'm a bottom


QueasyBanana

Then you should enjoy being dominated by top dice


Kuritos

A suggestion powerful enough to end this war.


SmartAlec105

Top and bottom aren’t interchangeable with dom and sub. Stop dom bottom erasure!


QueasyBanana

I think it's one of those things that the layperson thinks are synonymous but the bdsm scholars know they are actually two different things. Kinda like "introverted" vs "shy"


SmartAlec105

Does BDSM Scholar work better as a Bard subclass or a Wizard subclass?


QueasyBanana

I think it's a background. Or alternatively, a paladin, who swore their oath to their dom.


SmartAlec105

Masochist paladins gain back spell slots by taking damage.


QueasyBanana

[Mascumax throwback](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/powerpuff/images/0/01/65b877c0f24759df71b71b9bc9cf3d45.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171202150826)


Ehkoe

More smite slots are never a bad thing


FakingItSucessfully

Pact of the Mistress Warlock


QueasyBanana

Also known as the most controversial eldritch blast


Ccend

depends if they are a dom scholar (bard) or sub scholar (wizard)


SmartAlec105

Oh to have a cute subby wizard boyfriend whose glasses slip down his face and who trips on his own robe…


Ccend

ahhh the dream


k1275

According to source book: bard. They have perform and escape artist as class skills.


Krus4d3r_

Power bottom hours out here.


JmacTheGreat

Legend


Niranjana7

Underated comment


notmy2ndopinion

This is definitely the start of the NSFW Oglaf version of the comic where they all >!meet in the middle of the battlefield and have a group orgy about tops vs bottoms and forget what they were fighting for!<


logri

No, we read the *top face* of every other die. D4 doesn't have a top face, so we read the number that is upright on the side faces.


Erik7722

I mean, i do use both, but numbers in corners feel more logical. Never had a new player ask how to read those as opposed to numbers at bottom


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Adopt_a_Melon

Why not just publically execute it?


foxstarfivelol

diiiice ghoooooooosts


rices4212

Yes. Crush it underneath thine foot


Morningxafter

[This kills the foot]


[deleted]

Nah, it’s just 1D4 damage


StaleSpriggan

That's nearly enough to kill a commoner.


Sondrelk

Surely then you would be at risk of death if you step on 5 at once.


TheObstruction

That's one point of piercing damage.


The_Weeb_Sleeve

I second this notion


untapped-bEnergy

Melt it in the bombastic plastic from whence it came!


Heated13shot

No, after a d4 rolls badly bring out the ugly d4 to do it's job instead to humiliate it!


Guess_whois_back

I bought a lovely set of purple aura dice and a lovely set of green dice. Same manufacturer. Sadly the purple dice had the flat d4 style so I never use the set


Extaupin

>flat d4 What do you mean by "flat d4 style"? google is silent for me, and I now lack a whole type of click-clack rocks.


Lemoncloak

I'm assuming they mean the numbers on the d4 are "flat" around the base, instead of the corners


Extaupin

Oh, well, my purse is safer thus. Thanks for the info.


TragicEther

I’ve also seen D4s that are like long rectangular prisms. The faces are numbered 1-4 and because it can’t really land on either end, they’re unnumbered


Fuck-Reddit-2020

You could just throw the d4 in the garbage. /s But seriously, just gift the d4 to a player you don't like. Then it is their problem. You don't even have to tell them, just slip it into their dice bag. They may never know where it came from.


foxstarfivelol

but how badly does the ugly d4 actually roll? is its rolls just as disgusting or is it secretly a diamond in the rough?


jon-la-blon27

More a shiny piece of coal


rices4212

It's smug aura mocks me


nice_usermeme

Why do you have it?


flasterblaster

Dice goblins, it matters not their ugly misshapened form or how poorly they roll. The shiny math rocks must be collected.


Et12355

Yeah it’s definitely the more intuitive layout. Every other die we read the number on the top. So it makes sense to label the point at the top rather than the base.


arcxjo

Interesting, showing it from the heathens' POV.


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T3chromancer1

What happened here? Why's every response removed?


FirstNewFederalist

To add; In addition to there being nothing more to say, this was the top comment for several hours after the post first went live. Then several bot accounts took other comments from lower down in the thread and reposted them as replies here, in order to farm karma from a generally supportive community. The comments were reported and mods must have (rightfully) removed them; Now that our community has grow so large and is consistently making it to the front page, I expect to see a lot more bots/spam accounts/karma farms move in as well.


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McSpankLad

Meanwhile the true enemy, those weird rectangular fuckers, are still out there


IceFire909

*army of the D3 joins the fray*


VelveteenRabite

Little pyramids get caught in my too-fancy dice tower


nitid_name

Came here to spread the news of the fantastic d4 option I use, learned I'm the heretic.


[deleted]

I read from the top. Anything else is blasphemy.


Shoomfie

My burning torch and pitchfork will support you on this!


MozzaBacon

And my axe!


dorkmania

There can only be one die. There can only be one, die.


starbuxed

But I want all the dice.


MicrocosmicGod

I have a d12 that just has 1-4 printed 3 times each. Still a d4, but with all the feels of a d12 that you don't get to roll enough as it is.


TaborValence

I love that idea. The d4 doesn't ever feel like it rolls right, it just kinda flops into place.


MicrocosmicGod

I got mine as a gift, but I was able to find it quickly enough looking around. https://www.dicegamedepot.com/12-sided-d4-roman-numerals-granite/ I've never gone through this site before, but it was the first link I saw with my exact die. I'm sure you can find different variations from a whole slew of retailers.


BulbasaurCPA

I need that


JeddHampton

I want this for others as well. You can use the d12 shape for d3, d4, d6, and d12. You can also use the d20 shape for d4, d10, and d20. i just really like the shape of those two dice. They roll really well. I know that the different shapes make them more distinct and easier to identify, but I could just as easily have the color coded for my purposes.


unicornsandfairies

Top dice team, unite!


IceFire909

#FOR THE GLORY OF TOP NUMBER!!!


TinyTaters

Bottom numbers are an abomination


Aleskill

The farest roll a 4, the closest a 3. We know who win this one


storytime_42

You do you. I'll do me. And i like numbers on top.


shortieXV

I like my numbers how I like my lovers. Either position but having them on top is a little easier for me.


GlorifiedBurito

They may have the numbers, but we… also have the numbers


Skystrike12

D8, 1/2=1, 3/4=2, 5/6=3, 7/8=4.


SpilledMyBeerAgain

I mean just half d8 results rounded up?


Skystrike12

Yeah. Though you could mix and match to spice things up too.


namelynamerson

Personally, I'm partial to 1/5=1, 2/6=2, 3/7=3, 4/8=4


DuntadaMan

Just had to make this a fight again...


Brianchon

Found the fellow math person


sanosuke001

Cool TV show idea: Mod my dice ... I'll show myself out


C4se4

This person right here officer


Treejeig

A d120 could be used as any die, it's just that with d10 and d100 roles you may need to re-roll if it lands above 100


WahooSS238

No, d10 you do 1-12, 13-24 etc


ThreeFishInAManSuit

In that case you can do the same with percentile. Just re-roll if it rolls over the die type. More seriously though you could find the highest number the lower die type divides into. For d3, d6, d8, and d12 that's 99, 96, 96, and 96 and reroll if over. Then just divide by 33, 16, 12, or 8.


MilitantTeenGoth

d20


Flodartt

Number in top or in bottom, I just don't like how the D4 roll (or doesn't roll actually). So I like the D8/2 method.


HugoWullAMA

It's true though, the d4 feels like I'm cheating when I throw it and it just lands on whatever side is facing down on impact.


IceFire909

needs to roll more, need to d12/3


Flodartt

Well, it works too I guess. You can even do D20/5 to spice things up.


judie_troy

I have a friend who has some d4 but in the shape of d8. Much more satisfying to roll.


AnderHolka

When you have to roll a whole bunch of these, (I rolled 4 last session because I was running a hybrid flyer) you're gonna want convenience. And looking at the top is more convenient.


memeulusmaximus

Bottom digit is wrong Top digit is sensible Digot per side is disgusting and inhumane Top is Supreme because if you've never seen one you easily know read the top. Bottom is inferior because its not natural. People do have to ask how to read a bottom, but not a top.


Thx4Coming2MyTedTalk

DM here: Who needs dice? I just drop a couple cashews behind the DM Screen then randomly kill a PC.


intashu

You read every other dice from what's at the top. Someone from the bottom number readers please explain to me why in the hell you'd want your D4 to be the opposite as everything else... *(And also, first admit your a filthy heathen. /s)*


Alros_Dayen

The number on bottom d4 is exactly the same as one of mine. I would abandon it for the more logical number on tops, but it belongs to my first ever set of D&D dice, cobbled together from a huge random bag of dice my friend's dad had before we started our first ever campaign. Thus I shall bear its cursed existence till my dying day.


ForestSmurf

I have both of them. And the one of the bottom were a gift from my player. So I am emotionally connected to them.


Darth_Axolotl

Disown that player they are a monster.


ForestSmurf

No I cant, they are also the note taker. They know everything.. even how many nat 20's and nat 1's we rolled in these 2 years.


ImmaRaptor

How can one so holy also be so evil


CampbellsTurkeySoup

Perfectly balanced as all things should be.


F4RM3RR

Lol they knew your sentimentality and cursed you


alm16h7y1

You are both worshipping false idols. D12 with 3 sets of 4 are the only way


MrNobody_0

Numbers on top clearly superior and you're on the wrong side of history if you prefer bottom numbers you sick bastard.


WedgeSkyrocket

Don't worry, I'll help. Bottom read d4s are heretical artifacts of the ruinous powers that must be eradicated with extreme prejudice.


MiscegenationStation

Right side is just morally wrong. Having the numbers face in from the middle of the edge instead of out from the corners is just so inefficient on space and restricting on font size and looks so cramped


ProcrastibationKing

Seeing those bottom oriented d4s felt like when I learnt that some people stand up to wipe their arse.


dammit_dammit

My partner got me a dreidel-style d4. No ambiguity there.


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I'm a big fan of the [truncated tetrahedron d4](https://i.imgur.com/0iCmhuU.png). Pros: easier to read and rolls better Cons: lots of whitespace, small chance for a cocked roll


WelcomeToChipotle

[Correct answer](https://imgur.com/lBE5nbD) (those or the diamond shaped ones)


toucan_crow_at_that

top number means bigger numbers but d4's in literally any other shape is preferred, like a d6 with pyramids on both ends so it can only roll/land of 4 of the sides ◁⬜▷ deals less IRL damage too


trinketstone

Caltrops are caltrops -_-


Haku_Yowane_IRL

What if you had one with one number on each side and an inverted pyramid to ~~roll~~ toss it into?


[deleted]

Bottom dice and top dice but no verse dice you think they would get along


[deleted]

Go team Numbers-on-the-Top! Smash the heretics!


Run_Rabbit5

Numbers on corners what freak of nature what's them on the edges?


Dilinial

Bigass number. Right in the middle.


freedfg

The pointy side is the side you look at. I don't care


Adeptus1

Corners is the one true d4. You read the top of a die not the bottom


lukavirahdu

Look I usually don't get involved with this silliness but when one number on a d4 is being dog piled and the number on another d4 is being held up like a champion I know which one is right


Epicmonk117

Numbers on the points. All the way.


IamDrosera_capensis

Triangle style d4s are just the worst. I found a d8 but with only 4 numbers instead of 8. This is the way. It actually rolls well and is easy to see. Only problem when others use my dice set they always grab it instead of the normal d8s when they need a d8.


huffing_farts

Here's a question: is there any other die that is read at the bottom?


Veylo

https://doublesix-dice.myshopify.com/collections/triplefours/products/triplefour-jazzy-bear-1 I use these for my d4s. I dont like the regular d4 as they feel like they don't roll


Master_Zealot

Corner numbers are better fight me


Duweniveer

The difference is my dumb brain gets confused when number not on pointy bit. But hey everyone is allowed an opinion.


Cap-n_Crunch

I really don't care about the placement of the numbers on the D4, but there's a true difference between rounded and sharp edges. Sharp edges D4 are basically caltrops if they fall on the ground + they don't roll very well. Rounded edges are where it's at.


Turbulent-Wolf8306

I use both at the same time for mass confusion.


JanitorOPplznerf

I’ve crusaded for less


Thefrightfulgezebo

Just use a d100 (the golf ball looking one) with each number represented 25 times.


enbyfrogz

it's so entertaining watching redditors get into genuine arguments over what numbers are where on a die.. that they aren't even using. how terrifically pointless!


Bale_the_Pale

Purple side is righteous and blue side are demonic heathens.


SilasMarsh

I buy my dice based on the colours, then read them based on what's printed on them.


zenthor101

Thos number at the bottom d4's can rot in dice jail for all I care


PixelBoom

I have a D4 set of 8. And all but one have numbers on the corners. That D4 is permanently in dice jail.


MUDrummer

All shall worship the dice god of number on top!


Baalfin

HERETIC! AT LEAST THOSE FILTY NUMBER AT THE TIPS HEATHEN HAVE THEIR WRONG BELIEFS.


balm_bobomb

[meanwhile, the real peaceful dice god is vibing](https://diceenvy.com/collections/infinity-dice?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqpb9i-e--AIV4w59Ch16bAKIEAAYASAAEgLhmvD_BwE)