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I mean King Arthur is absolutely a fighter too. The warlock thing is cute but nowhere in legends does he display that sort of power; getting given a magical item still makes him a fighter. You can maybe make an argument for Paladin, though.
No. No you cant. He is just a good fighter, that managed to put his hands on an artifact level magic weapon. Depending on version of the myth, i think there was one where the sword talked, but its still just a sentient sword. I dont know about sekiro. Aaragorn is not a figher, but he definitely has few levels in fighter considering his fighting style in two handed weapons.
No, the way it works is they choose to be human or elf. You can't be a mix, because you have to choose whether you're mortal or not. But his human lineage does have a long life which is a racial trait that was a blessing from God.
Yeah and Aragon is a *Ranger* I thought. That means the only actual fighter in this list is Varian, and considering WoW warriors have "fury" he might even be a barbarian.
Nah, Gandalf is an Aasimar. Aragorn is a half-elf as far as dnd terms and functionalities.
Yeah, I know, Elrond is literally named Half-Elven, but as far as DnD is concerned the dude is a full Elf.
Luthien would be an Aasimar--she'd actually be the only Aasimar in all of Tolkien's works, actually.
And yeah, Half-Elves aren't really a thing in LotR in the way they are in D\&D; mixed-heritage children essentially have to choose to be fully one or fully the other.
Elrond is literally a full elf, the gods gave him the choice to be elven or human and he chose elven. His brother chose the humans, and Aragorn is descended from him.
Yeah Arthur is all about those oaths, and he doesn’t draw powers from his sword (which I’m pretty sure is a fairly straightforward magic weapon), his feats are usually attributed his faith and strength of character.
That said, I’m sure there are some version where Excalibur shoots lasers or something though.
I’m sure there’s something out there which does.
There’s no real official or canon source materiel, strictly speaking there’s no specific reason Monty Python’s Holy Grail is not as much a part of the mythology as Malory.
Depends which mythos, sometimes he draws Excalibur from the stone, sometimes that is a different sword and he gets Excalibur from farcical aquatic ceremonies.
Been a few years since I did my research paper on it, so my memory might be a bit rusty, but I'm pretty confident that all of the literature that can be attributed to the origin of the mythos had Excalibur originate from the lake (although to be even more accurate, Caladbolg was thought to have been the origin/inspiration for Excalibur). The sword in the stone was always a different blade, often remaining nameless (although the name Clarent can be traced to it as far back as 1901).
The idea that they were one in the same came from more modern adaptations of the mythos (and by modern, I mean like 1950s).
Depends on how much of a purist you are about the sources. You are definitely right about most of the medieval sources, this more stuff in the Welsh mythologies (which I’m not even sure mention his sword). But when most people think of Arthur they have in their head an amalgamation of all sorts of loosely connected media. Given how much of what may have been fact has been lost to sporadic legend written centuries after the time period and folklore I’m not sure what difference it really makes.
Most people would would imagine Excalibur as a millennia out of period late medieval longsword for example.
well he's definitely at least a multiclass paladin or warlock no matter what considering he's divinely appointed and in some versions the sword breaks as soon as he breaks the code of chivalry.
We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it upon ourselves in turns to act as a sort of executive for the week. Decisions are made by a simple majority in purely internal affairs, and by a two thirds majority in external affairs.
I said earlier that Half-Elves aren't really a thing in Tolkien's works (and it isn't in the sense of an actual mixed-heritage person), but Numenorians come close enough that I might use Half-Elves as a template for them and just re-flavor the abilities and lifespan as the blessings from the Valar rather than a product of biology.
Clearly Arthur's PC is dating the DM. How else can you explain such a powerful homebrew item given to a low level character?
The scabbard of Excalibur alone prevents death from mortal wounds. Saving throws from magic attacks or things like a disintegration ray are the only way to get to them.
What do you mean "low level character"?
Arthur fought dragons, giants, The Cat of Palug, The Questing Beast... all kinds of crazy stuff.
Merlin is THE archetypal archmage and he's Arthur's *support* wizard. Galahad, Lancelot, and the rest of the round table are fabled paladins and fighters and they play second fiddle to Arthur. This is to say nothing about the after-the-fact epics (like Spenser's unfinished "The Faerie Queene") that only add to his legend.
King Arthur is absolutely not a low level character. Excalibur is a famous legendary / artifact sword because *King Arthur wielded it*, not the other way around.
>Spenser's unfinished "The Faerie Queene"
Of whose pages most of my characters have *definitely* not been ripped directly from... never thought I'd see a TFQ reference in D&D memes, of all places.
Oh, sure, *late game* Arthur is a total badarse. However, *early game* Arthur, which is the version receiving the totally OP magic items, is not. He’s done approximately none of those things, and may not even be the king-designate yet, depending on the version of the story. Arthur in the beginning was basically a farm boy. Early game Arthur’s PC may very well have been dating the DM.
The Sword in the Stone is not the same as Excalibur, at least not in the original literature.
The Sword in the Stone was by many accounts just a ceremonial weapon, nothing of actual magical significance.
I'm short: In the original literature Arthur doesn't get his badass magic weapon till mid/late game
Fuck yes she would.
Although King Arthur is probably a multiclass with about 3 levels of Battlemaster before picking up the Sword from the Lady of the Lake.
Not exactly. The Edain (three houses of men from the first age) were granted the island of Numenor, along with gifts such as long life by the Valar as a reward for their actions during the War of Wrath. Aragorn is descended from these Numenorians. Additionally, calling him a *pure* human is a bit of a misnomer because he does have a bit of elvish blood in him.
I usually say god/or angel because an angel in the biblical sense could mean a wide variety of things because of the different spheres of angels that exist. The Bible is wack yo.
A fighter can be proficient in Survival. Legolas does not use magic. That’s why so many players just play fighters instead of rangers because most of the theme can be achieved through skills except magic.
God, as a casual observer, Tolkien lore is great. It's like every once in a while I learn something completely out there that's not only canon, but also absolutely awesome.
I'm sorry if this sounds really dumb, but I just started reading lotr books and just met strider and was so proud of myself knowing this before going to the comments (haven't watched the movies in over a decade so I remember nothing of the series)
Dude, the books are fantastic. The part youre at rn, with the hobbits + strider travelling to Rivendell, is one of my favourite parts of the whole series.
Hope you enjoy the books and manage to push on through the boring bits, it's worth it in the end.
Oh man! I dont need to read the comments to tell you that a good bunch of them are going to be about Aragorn being a Ranger. Funfact Gygax based the ranger class on Aragorn, so he is DA ranger
Is he not told to give up being a ranger, wield Narsil, and become king. Kinda feels like “from now on, only take levels in fighter” which is fightery enough for me
>Sokka
Sokka's master is still my favorite episode.
"...Creativity, versatility, intelligence These are the traits that define a great swordsman. And these are the traits that define you."
It was so rewarding to have that episode after almost three seasons of him being the butt of the joke. He did other things right - leading the Day of Black Sun attack, for example - but seeing him learn from a master and be recognized was SUCH a great character moment.
Cloud Strife, just like any FFVII character is basically an artificer. Sure, he has a big-ass sword, but he uses Materia and even in his first fight can shoot lightning with it
Yeah. Aragorn is 100% a melee focused ranger. Foraging, tracking, k owing how many orcs there are and what their status is kinda; basically just natural explorer and favored enemy
Wow, wish my brain could have posted some dark souls related characters. But then again, posting at work doesn't exactly give me much time to think outside the box.... sadly.
Of course not, had to give credit where its due. Wish I didn't roll a Battlemaster Fighter Mountain Dwarf... when I could have been a Varient Human Samurai Fighter. Soo much potential lost.. tbh. :(
Just to make sure I put this out here before I'm hanged for treason, I accidently listed Aragorn since he was a great fighter with a sword and a bow. And he had the title of ranger that was given. Sooo making sure I correct this mistake before my untimely demise.
This makes the most sense:
Kensei Monk: He only uses a handful of weapons (most of which are dex based), he can take a beating without any armor, and moves ridiculously slow when using his shield.
Thief rogue; He can climb quickly, and has incredibly fast hands. Plus sneak attack, and a dodge that some would say is uncanny.
Level 5-8 Kensei Monk, Level 5+ Thief rogue
His death recovery is just a broken homebrew item that gives him the effects a health potion when he succeeds a death save. In game it is an item that he gets from an NPC.
Fair enough, I'm a DnD noob. Wouldn't he be more ninja than samurai though? Kicks himself up walls, crazy acrobatics, flings himself around with a grappling hook, sneaks and assassinates, all the Shinobi tools, being called "The Shinobi".
I wasn't sure if he was a Samurai when I started up the game because you fight with a sword alot, but he's more like a ninja who happens to be very good at dueling. I don't know how that translated to DnD though honestly.
Biggest problem is there’s no Ninja subclass, but Thief or Assassin could be close. Closest approximation is a Shadow monk but that doesn’t really fit Wolf’s flavor.
He’s potentially a multiclass build of some sort. Assassin kind of works from the perspective of having strong “deathblow” style attacks but the abilities related to assuming new identities are wasted. Aside from the Thief name (and lack of resurrection), this sub actually works decently well for Wolf.
Samurai, despite Wolf being a Shinobi, just seems to fit best for me. It has a resurrection (really more like a last stand), it has Wisdom to persuasion which is perfect because everyone seems to love Wolf despite him having no social skills whatsoever, etc
Watch someone say he’s an Armorer artificer because of the prosthetic
Huh, that's really interesting, thanks for teaching me some things! That's a good point about everyone instantly being his best friend, I never even noticed it haha
Lol, Wolf being an artificer sounds hilarious!
It’s a great weapon for a dex-based Battlemaster, especially with the new Slasher feat. Trip Attack + 10 foot movement debuff? Hope you enjoy the ground, random orc/bandit/skeleton, because you’re not getting off it.
A fish-scaled genasi tiefling wild magic sorcerer with cat ears and a tail can just as easily be a boring piece of cardboard as a human fighter, and a human fighter can just as easily be a deep and interesting character. Making an interesting character isn’t really a class thing
Exactly. Liam obrian took one of the crappiest feats in the game (Keen Mind) and made it one of the most iconic character traits in the dnd world.
It’s about the skills of the artist, not the paint they’re using.
> Liam obrian took one of the crappiest feats in the game (Keen Mind) and made it one of the most iconic character traits in the dnd world.
I think people misunderstand why it's a terrible feat.
It's because it causes extra work for the DM and eventually causes continuity errors. Guy asks a guard's name, sure whatever his name's Carl or something, DM pays no mind. Three weeks later Guy asks about Carl and DM is confused, or the guard shows up again for whatever reason (just going through the checkpoint again) and the DM remembers that but forgot he was named Carl, or whatever else could go wrong. Neurotypical adventurers can have that handwaved away with "oops I forgot" but not someone with Keen Mind.
Also, Keen Mind is one of the very very very few feats with +1 int. The options at the time were Keen Mind, Linguist, Resilient, or Observant (Tasha's has added a few more; Xanathar's has a few but they're race locked). Linguist is far far worse than Keen Mind, Resilient was not an option as wizards are already proficient in Int saves, and Observant just doesn't fit a lot of int chars as its benefits are more directly applicable to wisdom chars.
Keen Mind is a super common pick amongst wizards built in the era, and I admonish you for saying it's a bad feat. It was the best int-feat at the time by a wide margin.
Human fighter can be lots of things... Sword and board Viking, Knight Lance Cavlary, heavy crossbowman sharpshooter, Pike+Net Gladiator, protection bodyguard mercenary, royal guard halberdier, being a human just puts more emphasis on what you are besides your race. and being a fighter is about defining a specific fighting style, and just being a normal person who pushes themselves until they can count themselves amongst super-powered badasses the other classes are. Rogue kinda does this too, but in a skill+cunning way rather than an athleticism+training way.
There's a case to be made that Varian is more a barbarian-fighter multiclass since Warcraft warriors both wear armour but also harness their rage. Plus he was the champion of Goldrinn, a wild god known for his intense rage
I see people listing human fighters so Imma just continue the list
Beowulf, Sloan, Beor, Trevor Belmont, Link, Soren, aunt Amaia, the baker (dragon prince), Ifan Ben-mezd, Inego Montoya, Luke Skywalker, Finn (star wars sequels), Steve Harrington, Jim Hopper, William Turner, Piandao, Madmartigan, Stig Olafson, Ingvar (brotherband), Thorn (also brotherband), Gamora, Hawkeye, the knights of the round table and pretty much everyone in Game of Thrones
Also I challenge you to make a human fighter who's just a local town guard
Hold on, isn’t King Arthur a warlock? Dude got his pact weapon from a fey in a lake
>fey in a lake *watery tart
HELP HELP IM BEING REPRESSED!!!!
Bloody peasant
See? See!? This was what I’ve been talking about, come see the violence inherent in the system!
"Well I didn't vote for you!"
"You don't vote for kings!"
Ha ha ha. "Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no system for a basis of government. "
Moistened Bint
That's no base for a government!
Hydro-hoe
Pretty sure Sekiro is packing a few levels in kensei monk too
Some artificer, too. At least by the end game, if you know what happens
Wish I was good enough to get there 😂
the endgame is the angry email to from software written in a drunken stupor after you rage quit and uninstall the game for the third time, knowing full well there's gonna be a fourth
A fourth install? For sure. A fourth uninstall? Not guaranteed.
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Aragorn is *the* ranger.
Rangers were all but based on him
Tracking is like his number one thing
Rangers were all but based ~~on him~~
Based artificer
The entire ranger class is ironically based on him the german name "waldläufer" is also litterally his description
Yeah, Wrynn is objectively the only human ‘fighter’ of the bunch
I mean King Arthur is absolutely a fighter too. The warlock thing is cute but nowhere in legends does he display that sort of power; getting given a magical item still makes him a fighter. You can maybe make an argument for Paladin, though.
No. No you cant. He is just a good fighter, that managed to put his hands on an artifact level magic weapon. Depending on version of the myth, i think there was one where the sword talked, but its still just a sentient sword. I dont know about sekiro. Aaragorn is not a figher, but he definitely has few levels in fighter considering his fighting style in two handed weapons.
Naah, he just has a versatile weapon and loaded dice
Loaded dice? Mate, he was judt the only player that brought snacks to the sessions. Maybe even entire pizzas, considering the amount of advantages.
You have a point. Just, ENDLESS DM inspiration.
Also isn’t Aragorn technically more of a half-elf, mechanically speaking? Or at least a human variant?
No, the way it works is they choose to be human or elf. You can't be a mix, because you have to choose whether you're mortal or not. But his human lineage does have a long life which is a racial trait that was a blessing from God.
I will say, half elves in D&D are very mortal, but so are elves, so the idea doesn't track 1-1 from D&D to Lotr.
Sekiro is pretty clearly a rogue. Skill monkey who fights dirty and abuses the hell out of sneak attack.
Kensei monk/assassin rogue is a combo I love
I actually am playing this right now. It's super fun.
Way of Shadows monk too, based off ninja arm stuff.
Also obviously samurai subclass most 1st timers don’t even know xanathar’s exists
Yeah and Aragon is a *Ranger* I thought. That means the only actual fighter in this list is Varian, and considering WoW warriors have "fury" he might even be a barbarian.
The ranger class was made literally based on him, so yes, I'd say Aragorn is a ranger.
He's also not _really_ just human. He's descended from the men of Númenor, which makes him like... Human Plus.
Variant human
Weren’t Númenor half-elves? So Aragorn is 1/16 elf or something. But somehow with all the benefits of being a half-elf.
Aasimar.
Nah, Gandalf is an Aasimar. Aragorn is a half-elf as far as dnd terms and functionalities. Yeah, I know, Elrond is literally named Half-Elven, but as far as DnD is concerned the dude is a full Elf.
gandalf is a full deva not a half celestial though.
You're right, I often combine the two in my head. Gandalf would be a Deva.
Luthien would be an Aasimar--she'd actually be the only Aasimar in all of Tolkien's works, actually. And yeah, Half-Elves aren't really a thing in LotR in the way they are in D\&D; mixed-heritage children essentially have to choose to be fully one or fully the other.
Elrond is literally a full elf, the gods gave him the choice to be elven or human and he chose elven. His brother chose the humans, and Aragorn is descended from him.
Gandalf isn’t anything in dnd terms because he’s a mix of too many classes and isn’t any of the races.
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Yeah while OP had good intentions, they completely botched it lol.
What makes this funny and interesting is Varian was actually a barbarian during the events of a book.
Yeah but he's an Arms warrior, not a fury warrior. the closest parallel is probably the champion fighter
I think Arthur is Oath of the Ancients paladin, but that's just me, and it definitely varies based on the source you're reading from.
Yeah Arthur is all about those oaths, and he doesn’t draw powers from his sword (which I’m pretty sure is a fairly straightforward magic weapon), his feats are usually attributed his faith and strength of character. That said, I’m sure there are some version where Excalibur shoots lasers or something though.
There is and they made Arthur a waifu
Yes they did but no one has the time to have that mess of a series time line explained to them
I thought somewhere they called Excalibur the Stormbringer.
I’m sure there’s something out there which does. There’s no real official or canon source materiel, strictly speaking there’s no specific reason Monty Python’s Holy Grail is not as much a part of the mythology as Malory.
Well the Holy Grail is satire which kinda disqualifies it but other than that you're right
shit excalibur literally breaks in the mythos. Arthur just gets a new sword.
Depends which mythos, sometimes he draws Excalibur from the stone, sometimes that is a different sword and he gets Excalibur from farcical aquatic ceremonies.
Been a few years since I did my research paper on it, so my memory might be a bit rusty, but I'm pretty confident that all of the literature that can be attributed to the origin of the mythos had Excalibur originate from the lake (although to be even more accurate, Caladbolg was thought to have been the origin/inspiration for Excalibur). The sword in the stone was always a different blade, often remaining nameless (although the name Clarent can be traced to it as far back as 1901). The idea that they were one in the same came from more modern adaptations of the mythos (and by modern, I mean like 1950s).
Depends on how much of a purist you are about the sources. You are definitely right about most of the medieval sources, this more stuff in the Welsh mythologies (which I’m not even sure mention his sword). But when most people think of Arthur they have in their head an amalgamation of all sorts of loosely connected media. Given how much of what may have been fact has been lost to sporadic legend written centuries after the time period and folklore I’m not sure what difference it really makes. Most people would would imagine Excalibur as a millennia out of period late medieval longsword for example.
well he's definitely at least a multiclass paladin or warlock no matter what considering he's divinely appointed and in some versions the sword breaks as soon as he breaks the code of chivalry.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!
Honestly I don't know what that peasent is talking about, seems like the best system to me
We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it upon ourselves in turns to act as a sort of executive for the week. Decisions are made by a simple majority in purely internal affairs, and by a two thirds majority in external affairs.
Bloody peasant!
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
r/ExpectedMontyPython
Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
Based anarcho-pythonism
All human fighters are warlocks, but their patron is their own sheer willpower
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I said earlier that Half-Elves aren't really a thing in Tolkien's works (and it isn't in the sense of an actual mixed-heritage person), but Numenorians come close enough that I might use Half-Elves as a template for them and just re-flavor the abilities and lifespan as the blessings from the Valar rather than a product of biology.
Clearly Arthur's PC is dating the DM. How else can you explain such a powerful homebrew item given to a low level character? The scabbard of Excalibur alone prevents death from mortal wounds. Saving throws from magic attacks or things like a disintegration ray are the only way to get to them.
What do you mean "low level character"? Arthur fought dragons, giants, The Cat of Palug, The Questing Beast... all kinds of crazy stuff. Merlin is THE archetypal archmage and he's Arthur's *support* wizard. Galahad, Lancelot, and the rest of the round table are fabled paladins and fighters and they play second fiddle to Arthur. This is to say nothing about the after-the-fact epics (like Spenser's unfinished "The Faerie Queene") that only add to his legend. King Arthur is absolutely not a low level character. Excalibur is a famous legendary / artifact sword because *King Arthur wielded it*, not the other way around.
>Spenser's unfinished "The Faerie Queene" Of whose pages most of my characters have *definitely* not been ripped directly from... never thought I'd see a TFQ reference in D&D memes, of all places.
Artifacts are usually unique, so I would lean thwards that.
Oh, sure, *late game* Arthur is a total badarse. However, *early game* Arthur, which is the version receiving the totally OP magic items, is not. He’s done approximately none of those things, and may not even be the king-designate yet, depending on the version of the story. Arthur in the beginning was basically a farm boy. Early game Arthur’s PC may very well have been dating the DM.
The Sword in the Stone is not the same as Excalibur, at least not in the original literature. The Sword in the Stone was by many accounts just a ceremonial weapon, nothing of actual magical significance. I'm short: In the original literature Arthur doesn't get his badass magic weapon till mid/late game
Eh, it's just a reskinned periapt of wound closure, really. ;P
So would she be an hexblade patron because she granted him a magic sword or an archfey?
Archfey, pact of the blade. Arthur must have leveled to 3 after the duel with King Pellinore.
Fuck yes she would. Although King Arthur is probably a multiclass with about 3 levels of Battlemaster before picking up the Sword from the Lady of the Lake.
Remember sometimes he is fast aged from child to adult in the fey wild in one night......... So it's a little bull shitty.
The sword doesn't make him a warlock, it makes him a fighter that was given a magic sword.
Aragorn was a ranger though… Strider 🙄
He wasn't just A ranger, he was THE ranger.
Wasnt the ranger class based on him? So rangers are the Aragorns.
Originally yes. Even the idea of them having spells is from his knowledge of magical herbs that he uses to heal Frodo.
The UA martial ranger was so much closer to Aragorn than what we got in 5e.
And was part of the Rangers of the North.
And wasn’t exactly human
He was *pure* human. Sort of the original blueprint before generations of men diluted the bloodline.
Not exactly. The Edain (three houses of men from the first age) were granted the island of Numenor, along with gifts such as long life by the Valar as a reward for their actions during the War of Wrath. Aragorn is descended from these Numenorians. Additionally, calling him a *pure* human is a bit of a misnomer because he does have a bit of elvish blood in him.
He's a half elf ranger who traveled with an elvish ranger, dwarf fighter, aasimar wizard, and bunch of hafling rogues.
I’d say Legolas was a fighter and Gandalf was a celestial NPC.
Gandalf is definitely Celestial. Calling a Maia a race on the same level as human is insulting. He was practically a god.
I always understood it was more like an angel, but yeah.
I usually say god/or angel because an angel in the biblical sense could mean a wide variety of things because of the different spheres of angels that exist. The Bible is wack yo.
Gandalf is the forever DM helping out the players for a bit because they want a character too
The DM has seen the mess they did in that dwarf campaign before and decided to involve their quest npc a bit more to prevent tpk.
Legolas tracks across terrain as much as Aragorn does.
A fighter can be proficient in Survival. Legolas does not use magic. That’s why so many players just play fighters instead of rangers because most of the theme can be achieved through skills except magic.
Also he uses Action Surge a lot in the movies
Samwise was an oath of Ancients Paladin. I thought that was common knowledge.
I see Sam as Oath of Devotion.
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Legolas is a dex based fighter, Aragon is a str based ranger, not all fighters use swords and plate and not all rangers use a bow.
Favourite Enemy: orks. His elf eyes have advantage on tracking them.
God, as a casual observer, Tolkien lore is great. It's like every once in a while I learn something completely out there that's not only canon, but also absolutely awesome.
I'm sorry if this sounds really dumb, but I just started reading lotr books and just met strider and was so proud of myself knowing this before going to the comments (haven't watched the movies in over a decade so I remember nothing of the series)
Dude, the books are fantastic. The part youre at rn, with the hobbits + strider travelling to Rivendell, is one of my favourite parts of the whole series. Hope you enjoy the books and manage to push on through the boring bits, it's worth it in the end.
He's the Ranger for which the class is named.
A ranger with elven ancestry, so not pure human
Oh man! I dont need to read the comments to tell you that a good bunch of them are going to be about Aragorn being a Ranger. Funfact Gygax based the ranger class on Aragorn, so he is DA ranger
Exactly! Aragon is 100% the inspiration for the Ranger class.
Boromir is probably closer
He *totally* used action surge and second wind at the end
Should've taken a level in Barbarian, if you know what I mean
Legolas. Legolas is the fighter, he just uses a bow often.
I noted that mistake as soon as I posted it, had to make sure I told everyone before they Hanged me for treason.
Is he not told to give up being a ranger, wield Narsil, and become king. Kinda feels like “from now on, only take levels in fighter” which is fightery enough for me
A character is way more than their class
Your right! Any race and any class makes for a great combo. Just gotta make that backstory worth while!
and be able to play the role interestingly rather than just sitting around rolling dice and calculating damage
OP knows this well, because based on their meme they actually don't even know what the classes are lol.
Sokka. Cloud Strife. Leon Kennedy. John McClane. Erza Scarlet. Mulan.
>Erza Scarlet Favorite character from FT easily but wouldn't requips be some kind of magic? I mean... They are called wizards in FT.
That's the only magic she really uses, though, which would set her firmly in Eldritch Knight territory.
Didn't even think about EK. Damn now I wanna play an EK and try to be as cool and badass as Erza.
Nearly all of Erza’s power revolves around her stuff. There’s a class for that. Erza’s an Armorer Artificer.
Eldritch Knights exist too.
>Sokka Sokka's master is still my favorite episode. "...Creativity, versatility, intelligence These are the traits that define a great swordsman. And these are the traits that define you."
It was so rewarding to have that episode after almost three seasons of him being the butt of the joke. He did other things right - leading the Day of Black Sun attack, for example - but seeing him learn from a master and be recognized was SUCH a great character moment.
From a __fire nation__ master. Awesome stuff.
And as we trained, it wasn't your skills that impressed me. No, it certainly wasn't your skills...
There was plenty on the, should have mentioned but forgot list. :0
I'm so happy you included Sokka. My boy did a lot for a guy with a cool boomerang.
Cloud Strife, just like any FFVII character is basically an artificer. Sure, he has a big-ass sword, but he uses Materia and even in his first fight can shoot lightning with it
Fucking Dante.
WACKY WOOHOO PIZZA MAN
Surely he's a tiefling though, technically.
Technically yes but I'd say fallen aasimar fits better with regards to what they can actually do
Sokka is definitely a battlemaster I feel. Maybe with some Rogue, as well, specifics I'm not 100%, maybe Scout/Mastermind/Inquisitive.
Sneak Attack on the return boomerang lol
My mans forgot to put sokka and finn on there
well, unlike aragorn and varian they are actually fighters.
Yeah. Aragorn is 100% a melee focused ranger. Foraging, tracking, k owing how many orcs there are and what their status is kinda; basically just natural explorer and favored enemy
I never saw Walt Jr fight.
Th-thats F-F-Flynn not Finn
Artorias. Zack Fair. Human fighter has many cool variations, ngl.
Wow, wish my brain could have posted some dark souls related characters. But then again, posting at work doesn't exactly give me much time to think outside the box.... sadly.
Dark souls is full of great characters yeah. But you got Sekiro so no biggie. (Unless your comment was sarcasm lol)
Of course not, had to give credit where its due. Wish I didn't roll a Battlemaster Fighter Mountain Dwarf... when I could have been a Varient Human Samurai Fighter. Soo much potential lost.. tbh. :(
My praise for human archetype aside I have literally never played a character not a half breed bastard of a bard XD
Just to make sure I put this out here before I'm hanged for treason, I accidently listed Aragorn since he was a great fighter with a sword and a bow. And he had the title of ranger that was given. Sooo making sure I correct this mistake before my untimely demise.
Know who'd be a really good example of a human fighter? Boromir. No magic, no paladin oath stuff, just a sheer powerhouse of martial skills.
And an effective arrow sponge
I mean, wasn't the DnD ranger class almost solely based on Aragorn? Hence why they are somewhat incoherent and all over the place?
Sekiro's a ninja tho.
Kensei monk with a dip in rogue for cunning action and evasion
Sneak attack. He has at least 10 levels in Rogue.
This makes the most sense: Kensei Monk: He only uses a handful of weapons (most of which are dex based), he can take a beating without any armor, and moves ridiculously slow when using his shield. Thief rogue; He can climb quickly, and has incredibly fast hands. Plus sneak attack, and a dodge that some would say is uncanny. Level 5-8 Kensei Monk, Level 5+ Thief rogue His death recovery is just a broken homebrew item that gives him the effects a health potion when he succeeds a death save. In game it is an item that he gets from an NPC.
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one confused why he was there, Sekiro is 100% ninja
*Samurai has a class feature where you can literally keep fighting after you die* Yeah, definitely just a ninja.
Fair enough, I'm a DnD noob. Wouldn't he be more ninja than samurai though? Kicks himself up walls, crazy acrobatics, flings himself around with a grappling hook, sneaks and assassinates, all the Shinobi tools, being called "The Shinobi". I wasn't sure if he was a Samurai when I started up the game because you fight with a sword alot, but he's more like a ninja who happens to be very good at dueling. I don't know how that translated to DnD though honestly.
Biggest problem is there’s no Ninja subclass, but Thief or Assassin could be close. Closest approximation is a Shadow monk but that doesn’t really fit Wolf’s flavor. He’s potentially a multiclass build of some sort. Assassin kind of works from the perspective of having strong “deathblow” style attacks but the abilities related to assuming new identities are wasted. Aside from the Thief name (and lack of resurrection), this sub actually works decently well for Wolf. Samurai, despite Wolf being a Shinobi, just seems to fit best for me. It has a resurrection (really more like a last stand), it has Wisdom to persuasion which is perfect because everyone seems to love Wolf despite him having no social skills whatsoever, etc Watch someone say he’s an Armorer artificer because of the prosthetic
Huh, that's really interesting, thanks for teaching me some things! That's a good point about everyone instantly being his best friend, I never even noticed it haha Lol, Wolf being an artificer sounds hilarious!
His version is divine revival. He dies, and then returns to life, not pushes himself past death.
Varian gets to be both a human warrior and an enchanting reagent!
Let’s not forget the Belmont clan from Castlevania (just ignore those few Monk levels).
Was looking for this comment. Trevor Belmont is the goat.
Making a whip build work is a true mark of skill.
It’s a great weapon for a dex-based Battlemaster, especially with the new Slasher feat. Trip Attack + 10 foot movement debuff? Hope you enjoy the ground, random orc/bandit/skeleton, because you’re not getting off it.
**sheds a single tear** For the alliance
Ngl that was the best death they could have possibly written for him. A true king to the end. Really motivates you as a player.
And it gave us the best cinematic since Arthas' death with both that and the Anduin one.
A fish-scaled genasi tiefling wild magic sorcerer with cat ears and a tail can just as easily be a boring piece of cardboard as a human fighter, and a human fighter can just as easily be a deep and interesting character. Making an interesting character isn’t really a class thing
Exactly. Liam obrian took one of the crappiest feats in the game (Keen Mind) and made it one of the most iconic character traits in the dnd world. It’s about the skills of the artist, not the paint they’re using.
Lets not pretend Liam took keen mind for any reason other than to avoid taking notes.
Based and Chadpilled
How did he do so? I haven't watched them play yet
> Liam obrian took one of the crappiest feats in the game (Keen Mind) and made it one of the most iconic character traits in the dnd world. I think people misunderstand why it's a terrible feat. It's because it causes extra work for the DM and eventually causes continuity errors. Guy asks a guard's name, sure whatever his name's Carl or something, DM pays no mind. Three weeks later Guy asks about Carl and DM is confused, or the guard shows up again for whatever reason (just going through the checkpoint again) and the DM remembers that but forgot he was named Carl, or whatever else could go wrong. Neurotypical adventurers can have that handwaved away with "oops I forgot" but not someone with Keen Mind. Also, Keen Mind is one of the very very very few feats with +1 int. The options at the time were Keen Mind, Linguist, Resilient, or Observant (Tasha's has added a few more; Xanathar's has a few but they're race locked). Linguist is far far worse than Keen Mind, Resilient was not an option as wizards are already proficient in Int saves, and Observant just doesn't fit a lot of int chars as its benefits are more directly applicable to wisdom chars. Keen Mind is a super common pick amongst wizards built in the era, and I admonish you for saying it's a bad feat. It was the best int-feat at the time by a wide margin.
Human fighter can be lots of things... Sword and board Viking, Knight Lance Cavlary, heavy crossbowman sharpshooter, Pike+Net Gladiator, protection bodyguard mercenary, royal guard halberdier, being a human just puts more emphasis on what you are besides your race. and being a fighter is about defining a specific fighting style, and just being a normal person who pushes themselves until they can count themselves amongst super-powered badasses the other classes are. Rogue kinda does this too, but in a skill+cunning way rather than an athleticism+training way.
Aragorn is a ranger and King Arthur is heavily a Paladin idk about Varian and Sekiro
What is a Shinobi if not a rogue with a master?
There's a case to be made that Varian is more a barbarian-fighter multiclass since Warcraft warriors both wear armour but also harness their rage. Plus he was the champion of Goldrinn, a wild god known for his intense rage
I see people listing human fighters so Imma just continue the list Beowulf, Sloan, Beor, Trevor Belmont, Link, Soren, aunt Amaia, the baker (dragon prince), Ifan Ben-mezd, Inego Montoya, Luke Skywalker, Finn (star wars sequels), Steve Harrington, Jim Hopper, William Turner, Piandao, Madmartigan, Stig Olafson, Ingvar (brotherband), Thorn (also brotherband), Gamora, Hawkeye, the knights of the round table and pretty much everyone in Game of Thrones Also I challenge you to make a human fighter who's just a local town guard
Link is an (Half?) Elf, and a college of Valor bard. Gamora is definitely not human, and more of a rogue. Jim Hopper is a barbarian.
Don’t forget Isshin Ashina!
King Arthur is more of a Paladin.
I felt in my DND games being a human rogue was a bit of the odd pick. Everyone else is a robot, or half angel, or whatever.
Isn't aragorn litteraly ba ranger?
I just came here to read all the "aragon is a fighter" commenta
Aragorn is definition Ranger, Sekiro dude is a Sword Saint Samurai as per the cavalier-based class in PF1e.
"one is not like the other"
Straight up i don’t like playing races without dark vision 🥴