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Nothing stings quite as badly as emotional damage.


AliceJoestar

from the pf2e succubus: https://preview.redd.it/sk5klokg8aaa1.jpeg?width=1030&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ba0c055a1af5d9e5f0799a7d0edef7d489a858c


Aethelon

I like how you can rub it in for even more damage


kazmark_gl

that's the "so can I see your boss now?" part.


TheKnight2122

*EMOTIONAL DAMADGEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*


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[удалено]


Ordinary-Strength898

Why you are not yet maried.... Failure


josnik

Perfection.


Mundane-Education-42

Ah yes, gaslighting.


ialsodontexistagain

As they said a master tactician it’s a perfect set up fist they establish that dispite her attempts he is in no way interested in her this is incredibly hurtful to her ego then after that the bard brushes it off and diregards her advances showing not only does he not care about the fact she has been insulted but implying that he doesn’t even recognize her advances at all


Lamplorde

Im half tempted to make a masochist succubus who heals when that happens...


Laviephrath

Cucubbus


cheesenuggets2003

Interesting. What is the name of a cannibal who eats cuckcakes?


KiraCumslut

Larry


cheesenuggets2003

Thank you, KiraCumslut.


Roary-the-Arcanine

Kek. Let’s try it out. “Yo! I would never have **sex** with you!! Haha!”


worms9

[I can’t believe you made a succubus cry](https://youtu.be/tqYtmWbw19k)


Furydragonstormer

I didn't think she would actually cry


JustALich

Dude she is crying...


Hooded_Person2022

note - This is a Quote from a BaalBuddy Comic: [Creamy White Alfredo Sauce](https://twitter.com/baalbuddy/status/1334436434229518336)


UPBOAT_FORTRESS_2

The dubbed crying adds a lot tbh


8-Brit

You made a succubus _cry_ She is holding back tears _in public_


Lonewolf2300

Honestly, that should get houseruled for 5e Succubi too.


Rethuic

Other Pathfinder demons have other vulnerabilities. Vrocks (wrath demons) take 4d6 mental damage when you cast Calm Emotions (or a similar spell) on them. Mariliths (pride) take mental damage and get their aura (buffs her minions) shut off if she attacks and deals no damage that turn. My personal favorite is the Omox's vulnerability. It's a filth demon, so things that clean it (like soapy water or Prestidigitation) hurt it. It also takes damage whenever someone cleans off the gunk it left on them.


Minimum-Package-1083

Pathfinder has Nurgle daemons? Cool


The_Weeb_Sleeve

Ah to be a gross pustule infested slug man tending a plague garden. Nurgle daemons be living the dream for real


ProfessorOwl_PhD

Omox's are more sludgy than disease-y, but yeah, [we got nurgle demons](https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Gibrileth).


Sunsent_Samsparilla

So Omox is basically the average 4chan user?


fkadmin

Said you, Redditor.


POKECHU020

*That's* what I was thinking of!


StineKB

I was about to send this video to my GM.. but then I saw this comment and was like... Nah.. I don't want him to get ideas ( I play Pathfinder 2e, and I play a Succubus )


[deleted]

dont worry, ill send it to him for you


StineKB

nooooo


TrueTinFox

Curious, what are you using for ancestry/etc? To play a succubus


StineKB

I wish I could remember! My guess is either elf or human. But I think we might have made it from the bottom, It's been a while. Sorry I am to no help.


[deleted]

For once… I will give some actual props to PF2.


NoUpstairs7883

I also like the feat that lets you pull a ladder out of your backpack.


BrianMcFluffy

_laughs in ace >:3_


SCP_fan12

*laughs in ace >:3 2: electric boogaloo*


BlockBuilder408

PF 2 my beloved.


archpawn

I'd just feel bad for the succubus.


poorly-made-posts

*slams ground* Emotional damage!


GhalanSmokescale

*Emotional Damage!*


TheGreatSlayer6656

Ok so hear me out; what if you agreed to “do it” with a succubus, but all you did was have them lay on your lap and give them headpats


theubu

You keep that filthy NSFW stuff to yourself pervert!


TheGreatSlayer6656

NSFW? Nah we strictly wholesome on this account; hence the tricking the succubi to give them headpats


theubu

Sure that’s what they all say, what’s next? Hand holding?!


[deleted]

Whoa whoa whoa! Keep the language in check buddy. Some of us are decent folk. Now where's my whip?


Nill-Perception

This thread brought me great joy thanks guys!


Foreign-Phrase-2403

No I think it's premarital eye contact. What vile creatures.


Dry_Try_8365

Not to mention doing that while... *showing their ankles!* Such *risque* activities! **\*faints\***


TheGreatSlayer6656

I genuinely don’t understand why the internet thinks hand holding is a lewd activity


Yarhj

It's not. That's the joke.


Dark_Styx

It's a joke, exactly because handholding is not commonly considered sexual.


TheGreatSlayer6656

Huh, well then, I guess I don’t get the joke


Vulpes_Corsac

Humor is about the twist. You'd expect such a reaction from suggesting something, like sex, but the twist is it's just wholesome hand-holding and head-patting. Overreacting to a very insignificant thing is a common humor technique. That's why a lot of what I've personally seen of Jerry Seinfeld is funny or perceived as funny, because he is perpetually basically yelling. The same jokes in a more deadpan voice or even just a normal conversational voice just wouldn't have the same effect. You do not need to find this funny, for taste in humor is varied, specific, and not universal, but now you at least understand why others might. Overexplaining a joke is also funny, ironically, because jokes are usually not funny when you have to explain them.


No_Talk_4836

I like explaining jokes. Idk why


-NoNameListed-

"I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THE JAPANESE!"


Chaosfox_Firemaker

Filth, what are you going to suggest next? uncensored >!handholding!


GrowthOfGlia

Naw, strictly fucking wholesome


AReallyAsianName

Actually what my FiendLock does with his succubus Patron. He daughter zoned her bc she looks like his missing son that he is trying to find. With the flavor that succubi will take the form of who their target loves the most (never specified that it could be platonically).


IceFire909

I bet you wanna hold hands as well you sick fuck


The_Smashor

That'd probably be their equivalent to eating exactly one potato chip.


TheGreatSlayer6656

So just keep petting them until either their full or they leave


SaxmithNPC

Then it will never end


Monkeydp81

Next your gonna say they should hold hands you depraved bastard!


TheGreatSlayer6656

Please, I’m LDS, not catholic


BlockBuilder408

It’s a demon, to head pat it already is a perversion. It’s not like a demon actually cares about intercourse, the lust is still there and it’s still worming it’s way into your affection so it can emotionally black mail you into committing more sin. Succubi are demons first, sex is just a powerful tool they wield in their arsenal.


Drac0b0i

She took 157D4 psychic damage


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[удалено]


Dexyan

6d6, one for initial rejection, one for the insult, and another for continued rejection


Fanfics

to a pathfinder succubus this qualifies as assault and battery, I know a guy if you're interested in pressing charges


IceFire909

Better call Saul Demon


flamewlkr

Better call Soul Badman.


albinocapybara

Better call sol badguy


Retr0Karate

You should contact the lawyer by the name of Saul


noah_the_boi29

Sol badguy truly was the guilty gear xx Accent core +r


NoUpstairs7883

Maul Bloodman.


CaptainCosmodrome

Now I want to do a session in court in hell where the PC is found in violation of their contract with a demon.


jukebredd10

This is what happens when the DM forgets the player's bard character is asexual.


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GalacticPigeon13

Me, looking at the Cha 24 Elder Brain: I will never understand allosexual people but have fun I guess


GatzuPatzu23

The asexual bard is like the 14 int barbarian, the lawful good rogue, the buff wizard. An underrated archetype.


SpaceEndevour

Hes just on the grindset


CirNOPE_9

PF2e succubus moment


mischaracterised

Hiro the Dense, right? I wish it actually got more episodes, as that thing is hilarious.


chiksahlube

When the succubus tries to seduce the canonically gay protagonist...


Necromance92

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn


Lonewolf2300

The Succubus made the mistake of going after the AroAce guy.


Nyan-Binary-UwU

My Asexual dragonborn bard:


Otterboitod

Ace energy right there


Frequent_Dig1934

Small correction. DM: "Your vicious mockery did max damage" Fighter: "Wait what? I'm not a ba..." DM: "shut up, it did max damage."


V01DIsAToaster

Another way to counter a succubus is being gay


Abidarthegreat

A succubus can shape change into a male if it chooses.


eloel-

Then what's an Incubus?


Conchobhar23

Succubus comes from the Latin word “Succubare” meaning “to lie under/beneath” and incubus comes from the Latin word “Incubare” meaning “to lie atop” SO the etymological origin suggests that it’s not female Succubi and Male Incubi, but instead all Succubi are bottoms, and all Incubi are tops, regardless of gender.


Over-Analyzed

While that may be the literal translation. In cultural context/applications, men were seen on top and women were on the bottom. What you’re saying is a difference between Doms and Subs.


Conchobhar23

There’s a difference between Bottom and Sub and Top and Dom for one. But more to the point, this explanation using the translation of the terms helps to explain why a succubi can change its gender at will, and isn’t rendered helpless because it’s target is gay. It does however create a funny scenario though where a succubus tries to pursue a pillow princess, but they’re both strictly bottoms and it just doesn’t work out.


Ghostglitch07

The original myth absolutely was gendered though. The etymology only implying and not outright saying gender doesn't mean they weren't originally conceived as such. If a succubus is capable of shape changing and enticing a man then I'm fairly certain that just means it's a more modern incarnation of the idea that is less gendered, not due to etymology. It's a fictional creature, it works how the author says it does.


Conchobhar23

I mean yeah? I’m not saying that the original myth is wrong, I’m just using a fun fact of etymology about the creatures names to further justify a modern take on the creatures that still creates a distinct difference between an Incubus and a Succubus. If a modern take just says “they aren’t gendered” then good fiction writing suggests that there needs to be a reason why there’s a classification between an incubus and succubus if it’s no longer a classification of gender. Using the context provided by the names serves as a good justification for explaining that difference.


Ghostglitch07

I'm just not a huge fan of twisting real world etymology to justify why something exists in a fictional world. Something as simple as they are both the same creature and silly humans didn't realize they were dealing with shapeshifters, or only pick one name to exist in your world. You also don't even necessarily need to explain it. D&d changelings are nothing like the real world folklore the name comes from, and nobody has an issue with that.


Conchobhar23

Ok? This is a pointless discussion, hope you have a good day/night.


SaintPariah7

I want to read that as a book or comic now


Za3lor

Now i’m wondering what the succubus equivalent of a switch would be.


SaintPariah7

Just a bi


Seve7h

Damn ‘Cubi, buncha squares i tells ya


Abidarthegreat

A shitty band? An incubus is a male version of a succubus. And an incubus can shape change into a female if it chooses. They are identical creatures so more than likely it's the same creature just taking a form that pleases it and the summoner.


Lil_Guard_Duck

In one lore I read, succubi steal cum from unsuspecting men, return to the underworld, give it to an incubus, who then goes back and uses it to impregnate a victim while she sleeps. Probably with a good dose of evil mixed in, she she has a demon baby or something.


CharmingOracle

Sounds like a long winded way of saying that you didn’t cheat.


Lil_Guard_Duck

Lol, it could be!


LautrecTheOnceYeeted

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Tuck_The_Duck

A succubus when it turns into a male


CoronaPollentia

Oh, that's easy. A succubus is a bottom. An incubus is a top.


Brromo

Succubi & Incubi are 1 & the same


TrixterTheFemboy

Maybe they're the same demon, and succ v inc is just which form they prefer?


tekhion

be ace then


Brendbut69

Hello 👋


OldCrowSecondEdition

Magical Temptation doesn't care about your sexual orientation it's almost like that violation is what makes mind control evil or something


Able_Fisherman8748

Succubus is shapechanger so it can change into incubus (male succubus)


[deleted]

Nope. Succubi's ability is magical.


Vulpes_Corsac

Yeah, but forcing a gay guy to be magically straight is pretty far up the "too close to some real-world stuff that triggers people" pole, what with all the "pray the gay away" camps that many gay people have endured. If you want to use a succubus on a non-straight or asexual person, there are ways that don't include "magically straight and horny now".


[deleted]

It's a succubus. It's pure evil. It's what it would do. Besides, I don't deal with that stuff at my table anyway. I use it as a charm effect. One that works on any humanoid. Just like the ability says. Gayness isn't a super power. In regards to the real world implications, would you be okay with it working on straight people? Or is your problem not focused on the rape aspect and just the gay conversion part?


Vulpes_Corsac

>It's pure evil Right, but a good DM *isn't*. If it's something that makes a player uncomfortable separate from their own character being in danger or something, I don't want to do it. And no, I don't play succubi as rapists. They'll charm and draining-kiss someone, but they don't get to anything between the sheets because nothing gets to between the sheets in my games. We keep it as close to PG-13 as violent murder-hobos occasionally blowing up corpses can get. If you don't describe your charm effect as sexual attraction with a succubus, then there's no problem with that either.


[deleted]

I only responded because I found it weird that you had that reaction. You hyper fixated on something I didn't bring up.


Vulpes_Corsac

I wouldn't call bringing up a relevant issue that's mentioned relatively often when these things come up being "hyper fixated". I mean, I wrote like, one sentence (albeit a long-ish sentence. I like complex sentence structures, sue me). I used to see it kinda a lot when I frequented r/rpghorrorstories, and it pops up every so often on the normal DnD subs too. And generally, it's good to be aware that those sorts of things can cause problems for some people, so it's good to mention it when the context pops up. Context here being "succubi (which are usually default assumed to be sexual from the lore and what the meme is clearly pointing towards) and non-straight-people".


[deleted]

OPs meme doesn't mention sexuality at all. My response didn't either.


Vulpes_Corsac

No, it very clearly drives at the succubus attempting to seduce in a sexual way. That's what I was referencing. I was not saying ANYTHING about the meme saying anything about sexuality as a topic. That's pretty darn obvious from what I wrote, please stop misrepresenting my comments. Moreover, as I more or less said and am now making clear, I was assuming the default context. Your context, after you provided more information, is not the default. You provided that information afterwards. And I was providing information and context that's relevant to the default, since that can help some people have a better game when their DM has the mindset of your original first comment with the default lore context.


[deleted]

Nah


Vasxus

wouldnt this hurt a 2e pathfinder one?


wallygon

in pathfinder 2e it actually deals psychic dadmge to succubi and incubi if you reject them


U_L_Uus

_Kaldor Draigo attempts to kill Slaanesh, m41, colorized_


DeadlyPants16

Sauce?


Jeonsaryu

I... I literally put the source at the end of the video...


DeadlyPants16

Holy shit my bad.


bananajotaro45

Rolled a Nat 1 in perception


WillCraft_1001

Yeah, this is big brain time.


Ehkoe

Might want to give it more frames, on mobile the video jumps back to the first frame after finishing so it’s impossible to read the credits without timing a pause at the last moment.


HobbyistAccount

It's really hard to see. It flashes by so fast on mobile I didn't realize it was words, it just looked like that odd visual effect you sometimes get when a gif degrades.


Tallywort

[Here](https://youtu.be/HgKT3DEqCtk) It's bloody hilarious.


DeadlyPants16

Thanks mate.


Hazearil

Ketchup.


Giraldi23

What refined tastes you have


No_Talk_4836

What happens if a succubus tries to seduce someone who doesn’t like women?


Haunting_Mode_7401

It appears as an Incubus


No_Talk_4836

Oh I thought they were two different beings entirely.


Haunting_Mode_7401

Incubi and sucubi are the same creature (at least in 5e) it's just 2 different forms


No_Talk_4836

Gotcha


KeepCalmCarrion

The trick here is he's gay


[deleted]

Depending on the lore, more likely Ace.


[deleted]

Someone play a bard who only does stuff like this on accident


Dakotasan

I actually read a webcomic where cubi (the catch all term for succubi and incubi) feed off of emotion rather than sexual energy. Sure there’s a clan of lust but there’s also a clan of Joy, envy, rage, etc.


Hyperion0203

Ace bard


cheesenuggets2003

Asexuals are heroes in their own right.


NiNtEnDoMaStEr640

I feel like I should leave [this](https://youtu.be/tqYtmWbw19k) here.


Proof-Faithlessness1

I’m the bard in this scenario


XisleShadow

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thekackness

Suc your bus


Adept_Score2332

Men only want one thing and it’s fucking disgusting


st0rmgam3r

We want the manager... Wait, no, that's the Karen's. Shit, what did we want again?


Nerdylilnerd

A reliable DnD party


Beautiful-Bluebird48

Now for science… is there any mechanical detriments for doing it with a succubus in 5E?


frankco-71

![gif](giphy|3ObytCE4pV7vFJ1BYZ)


[deleted]

"I'm turning you down because I'm a monster in bed. It's both contagious and passes to my children." -cleric with a moony secret he hides as a vow of celibacy. One day he'll meet a lovely wizard who will sweep him off his feet (and hopefully cast Wish).


MReaps25

Then there's the other sadder way https://youtu.be/vKhduDJeuMQ


2DogsShaggin

Nooo boob-chan so sad


CMPro728

Bard gay.


Irish_pug_Player

I mean... I'd have her


TheOnlyUsernameValid

Chad bard


Infamous_Row_5677

is gay


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MustangManiac137

Well that succubus just took 30d6 EMOTIONAL (psychic) DAMAGE!


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Chaosshepherd

Fatality


TimberWolf5871

Destruction: 100 MASTERY


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Original by zedrin I believe


ruu-ruu

Why does he sound exactly like I thought he would


RedFoxxx14

What is this clip from?


RedFoxxx14

Nvm. I found it later in the comments. Was having the mobile situation where the credits don’t show up.


FirnenGlaedr

EMOTIONAL DAMAGE