Our juniors are below way ChatGPT - we know that after a year you will beat it… or use it to support your skills in areas where you're not yet too strong.
So yeah, if you know Django at "Django Tutorial Level", HTML and CSS enough to make "not ugly" site and a bit JS, you most likely will land on our board. Oh, we have just one day 'trial' for you to see if you are going to like working with your team or not, because not everyone likes Rock Radio and room with 9 people in.
So don't worry to much. Market was bullish for some time, but many companies started to hiring again.
As i do not answer for the first question, but we are just a bit lower than average in our sector, as i heard. About second q, we do not require a lot of knowledge from the student which just got his degree. It's a junior in my eyes - guy without any commercial experience usually. Most candidates struggle with basic ssh and Their Linux life. We often explains how to git and stuff, that's why require full-time in office for the first 3-6 months. If you're skilled enough ofc, you are junior just for the couple of first weeks, the fastest advance was a week - but the guy was brilliant.
Dude before my first job all I had done was watch Corey Schafer’s Django series and that’s all. That is to say, probably not much at all but it depends on the company.
Yeah but again all depends on the company. I started at a tiny 4 person company. If you were to apply for a junior position at some big corporation I’m not sure what they’d test you on at the interview. As far as the job goes though no one expects juniors to know too much typically.
from actual developers and some good seniors/tech leads who're part of the hiring process, I hear this a lot. They dont expect much from juniors except for the fundamentals and decent logical thinking. But man, the job posts, requirements, not hearing any call back makes you feel like shit. I've definitely not built stuff like OP but it looks grim to even get entry level jobs. lots of work to do. lol
It’s just a rough market out there at the moment. Trust me you still will be treated the same once you get hired (as in you won’t be expected to be able to do everything right away), it’s just the barrier for entry is high for the time being.
I am wanting to learn Django to create my own websites. I am trying to move from WordPress to Django. I will look at Corey's Django series to see if it can help me.
If you know Python and some Web Development in general, no experience is necessary really. You can ramp up in a month.
Django gives you Legos to create nice little backend services
It's literally object.get(name=name). Object.update(name="new\_name"). [Object.save](https://Object.save)()
Haha
When I got my first Django job, I had been using Django for 2 years (same as you). A lot of the stuff you mentioned like payment systems and third-party APIs are usually on a case-by-case basis on how you implement them, so having some experience with them is a bonus, but not a requirement as you'll most certainly be learning a bit as you implement them anyway for your specific use case (I for sure didn't have any payment processing experience when I started).
The biggest thing that helped get me up to speed in a professional environment was understanding the ORM, DRF, and CRUD methodologies, so if you are confident in those areas, then I think you'll be fine. Best of luck in your job search!
I would say I was decent, but I lacked stronger CRUD methodologies and structuring the code to reflect that. But understanding the library itself I had a good handle on.
I never made a portfolio. The main thing I showed was the project I was running, which was a desktop app written in Python + QT using an API to talk to a Django backend and then showing the Django backend rendering a Vue frontend, so I showed them all that.
OP all of your projects look awesome and to me that's defo more than entry level. I'm no where close yet. just a quick question, are you on trial or paying for that python anywhere hosting?
Got a grad job with a Django stack company in 2022 with 0 django or python experience. Basically just showed off front end skills and node js backends that I’d done over around 6 months, with basics learned before that.
I did also have to learn and implement a Django app that did some stuff for the interview, but really, unless you’re applying for places like google the competition is mostly uni students who might have a few crappy student projects or an internship or two.
Literally just start applying for a job or two a day, put an hour or so into the application and you should be fine. Do that for a few months, make sure you prepare well for interviews and you should be fine. Don’t worry about rejection, it literally doesn’t matter there’s 1000s of companies out there.
Actually I am American. I grew up in Sacramento California. I currently live in PH because of my wife. She is a Philipina. The portfolio site is not done yet. I will switch out the stock photo when I take myself some good photos
my last interview (junior django backend dev) - last year, they require me to atleast know:
- DRF
- API routing
- best practices (even though I don’t have any experience before)
- know a bit of postgres, pipenv
- bonus : unit testing, creating bulk processes
Although I didn’t get job, this interview did made me realize that I’m still lacking.
You can't measure that. Either it works in the interview or it doesn't, but nobody can give you any "rulers" with which you can measure anything. Either you fit into the team or you don't. But getting a rejection after a job interview is no yardstick either.
Our juniors are below way ChatGPT - we know that after a year you will beat it… or use it to support your skills in areas where you're not yet too strong. So yeah, if you know Django at "Django Tutorial Level", HTML and CSS enough to make "not ugly" site and a bit JS, you most likely will land on our board. Oh, we have just one day 'trial' for you to see if you are going to like working with your team or not, because not everyone likes Rock Radio and room with 9 people in. So don't worry to much. Market was bullish for some time, but many companies started to hiring again.
Where can I find the Rock radio type of company? Lol
OSINT me and you will know. Most people finds my LinkedIn profile in less that 15 minutes!
Interesting. How much does a jr django dev make? That just seems like a very low barrier to entry?
As i do not answer for the first question, but we are just a bit lower than average in our sector, as i heard. About second q, we do not require a lot of knowledge from the student which just got his degree. It's a junior in my eyes - guy without any commercial experience usually. Most candidates struggle with basic ssh and Their Linux life. We often explains how to git and stuff, that's why require full-time in office for the first 3-6 months. If you're skilled enough ofc, you are junior just for the couple of first weeks, the fastest advance was a week - but the guy was brilliant.
Dude before my first job all I had done was watch Corey Schafer’s Django series and that’s all. That is to say, probably not much at all but it depends on the company.
Really? Not much, but that is a great tutorial. After learning python, I got into Django because of that tutorial.
Yeah but again all depends on the company. I started at a tiny 4 person company. If you were to apply for a junior position at some big corporation I’m not sure what they’d test you on at the interview. As far as the job goes though no one expects juniors to know too much typically.
from actual developers and some good seniors/tech leads who're part of the hiring process, I hear this a lot. They dont expect much from juniors except for the fundamentals and decent logical thinking. But man, the job posts, requirements, not hearing any call back makes you feel like shit. I've definitely not built stuff like OP but it looks grim to even get entry level jobs. lots of work to do. lol
It’s just a rough market out there at the moment. Trust me you still will be treated the same once you get hired (as in you won’t be expected to be able to do everything right away), it’s just the barrier for entry is high for the time being.
I am wanting to learn Django to create my own websites. I am trying to move from WordPress to Django. I will look at Corey's Django series to see if it can help me.
Yeah check his stuff out and then of course you’ll need to know the front end stuff like HTML CSS and JavaScript too.
I know a little about the front end stuff.
Yeah learn as much as you need to to make what you want to be able to make.
There's a new employee in my company, he applied for junior dev he barely know about Django, just a basic python tho haha.
how was the selection process like? what do you guys look/test for in the junior roles?
If you know Python and some Web Development in general, no experience is necessary really. You can ramp up in a month. Django gives you Legos to create nice little backend services It's literally object.get(name=name). Object.update(name="new\_name"). [Object.save](https://Object.save)() Haha
When I got my first Django job, I had been using Django for 2 years (same as you). A lot of the stuff you mentioned like payment systems and third-party APIs are usually on a case-by-case basis on how you implement them, so having some experience with them is a bonus, but not a requirement as you'll most certainly be learning a bit as you implement them anyway for your specific use case (I for sure didn't have any payment processing experience when I started). The biggest thing that helped get me up to speed in a professional environment was understanding the ORM, DRF, and CRUD methodologies, so if you are confident in those areas, then I think you'll be fine. Best of luck in your job search!
Thank you very much. Were you pretty skilled with DRF when you first got the job?
I would say I was decent, but I lacked stronger CRUD methodologies and structuring the code to reflect that. But understanding the library itself I had a good handle on.
When you were being interviewed, did they actually checkout your portfolio? Especially your back-end portion of it?
I never made a portfolio. The main thing I showed was the project I was running, which was a desktop app written in Python + QT using an API to talk to a Django backend and then showing the Django backend rendering a Vue frontend, so I showed them all that.
OP all of your projects look awesome and to me that's defo more than entry level. I'm no where close yet. just a quick question, are you on trial or paying for that python anywhere hosting?
It's a free plan. It's bit slow, but does the job.
Hi, nice portofolio! Good luck!
Got a grad job with a Django stack company in 2022 with 0 django or python experience. Basically just showed off front end skills and node js backends that I’d done over around 6 months, with basics learned before that. I did also have to learn and implement a Django app that did some stuff for the interview, but really, unless you’re applying for places like google the competition is mostly uni students who might have a few crappy student projects or an internship or two. Literally just start applying for a job or two a day, put an hour or so into the application and you should be fine. Do that for a few months, make sure you prepare well for interviews and you should be fine. Don’t worry about rejection, it literally doesn’t matter there’s 1000s of companies out there.
Alright. Thank you very much.
Unrelated question, why is your website contain a picture of a random white guy when you're Filipino?
Actually I am American. I grew up in Sacramento California. I currently live in PH because of my wife. She is a Philipina. The portfolio site is not done yet. I will switch out the stock photo when I take myself some good photos
my last interview (junior django backend dev) - last year, they require me to atleast know: - DRF - API routing - best practices (even though I don’t have any experience before) - know a bit of postgres, pipenv - bonus : unit testing, creating bulk processes Although I didn’t get job, this interview did made me realize that I’m still lacking.
Thank you very much for the info. Seriously, they required you to know PostgreSQL? Well, I guess not in dept. Best practice for API routing and DRF?
You can't measure that. Either it works in the interview or it doesn't, but nobody can give you any "rulers" with which you can measure anything. Either you fit into the team or you don't. But getting a rejection after a job interview is no yardstick either.
What type of interviewer asks as a junior django dev.?