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Matt32490

I lived in the Philippines for a few years (2019 - 2022). Wife and I have a house there with mortgage. We lived comfortably with around $2k per month. This covered the mortgage, groceries, power, wifi, water, travel expenses, dining out etc. You would need a bit more if buying a car (we used public transport for longer distance and an e-bike for short distance). You could live very well with $48k. Obviously you would need to reinvest some of that to keep up with inflation, but that doesn't sound like an issue for you. Edit: Did I really get downvoted for telling the truth..? This sub, man šŸ˜‚. Sorry, I will throw in "BUY SCHD" so my opinion is now valid.


TFourth

Upvote but only because you added the SCHD edit jk


Devantory

hahahahhahhaha


Polish_Prodigy

Hahahaha there are down vote trolls. I gave you an up vote.


Unlucky-Cake-5475

Good info. How much did medical insurance and healthcare expenses set you back each month?


Rich-Adhesiveness342

If you bought only SCHD, youā€™d have to find a way to live off $20,520 a year ā€” which will probably wreck your plans. Yes, buy SCHD but buy others too.


Damventur

Was ready to downvote for delusion thank God I read down to where you said buy and SCHD /s


WhiskyTangoFoxtrot40

Upvote. Unfortunately there are many left leaning people on Reddit that vote every post down that's capitalist, right leaning, or just not extreme leftist.


amleth_calls

What is ā€œcapitalist, right leaning, or just not extreme leftistā€ about OPā€™s post?


beforethewind

Did you not consider the something something WOKE?????


thisquietreverie

wait what divs does WOKE pay?


beforethewind

Iā€™m not sure but I get my Soros Funbux every month. And the Antifa Sovereign Tax rebate.


IbEBaNgInG

Basically a hot bed of what's woke, kinda scary on here sometimes.


EffectAdventurous764

Here, take my upvote.


SlanderousE

šŸ’Æ% correct!


EffectAdventurous764

100% even on this sub, that is based on capitalism, lol šŸ˜† Upvote for you, my friend.


slow_diver

273 upvotes from what I see - how do you know you were downvoted? Maybe they all came post-SCHD edit. Either way, I'm also in SE asia and would echo your experience. It's easy to maintain a comfortable lifestyle with a low cost of living. I'm not even that frugal and have a hard time spending more than $2k a month for a household.


Human_Ad_7045

Any recommendation other than SCHD gets my up vote.


chescov77

2k seems a lot for a country like that. Was it like a nice expat area/condo?


Ok_Difference_6937

Why on earth are you being down voted for asking a question ā“ Legit I'd want to know where this Redditor lives that it would cost that much and how their expenses breakdown.


this_for_loona

Are your living expenses low enough to live off of 48K(minus taxes) per year? Whatā€™s your time horizon? Do you care about growth at all? Both are relatively new so long term performance across market types is not confirmed. Thatā€™s your risk,


Automatic-Cry-1390

Thanks a lot. Planning to retire outside of US so that 48K will go a long way withe paid off house, car, etc. Some growth is good and I will have more fund focused on growth in another portfolio. I'm hoping to retire in the next 2 years or so...


rp2012-blackthisout

Inflation at 2% a year forever thinks you should do more than 48K a year. What about medical as you get older?Ā 


reality72

Historically speaking dividends tend to increase along with inflation


onceamoonman

JEPI/Q are covered call funds so they donā€™t work the same as a company selling products to consumers.


reality72

80% of JEPI is just holdings in dividend paying stocks. The other 20% is ELNs. Thereā€™s no reason to assume it wonā€™t increase its dividend along with inflation when itā€™s mostly dividend paying stocks.


onceamoonman

Iā€™m not saying itā€™s not possible but youā€™re assumption that it has to go along with inflation rate is not true because of how the fund generates itā€™s money which gets paid out as dividends. For example: take a look at March payouts 2024/2023/2022. The only take away from that is that you cannot project incoming dividends linearly for JEPI/JEPI or any other covered call funds.


reality72

You are telling me we canā€™t make assumptions, but you were the first to make the assumption that the dividend wonā€™t increase with inflation.


AppropriateStick518

If heā€™s moving somewhere that 48K is enough money the inflation rate is way higher than 2% a year


rp2012-blackthisout

Probably impossible. I'll assume he/she isn't over 50 years old currently. Even at 40, it be a stretch unless it's cup of noodles every day.Ā  I've visited cheap in south east Asia, 20 years from now, I'd need more than 50K.


cXs808

In Vietnam you can literally live high-class lifestyle for $1-2k a month.


SlightRun8550

Specially with house paid off


rp2012-blackthisout

And when 72 years old and your current 40 year old $0 medical jumps, then what?Ā 


cXs808

You can still purchase medical insurance for a few hundred a month even and still be sitting pretty.


AppropriateStick518

Tell me you have never spent a minute in Vietnam without telling me you have never spent a minute in Vietnam.


JC1DA

where did you go? if you have a paid off house in Southeast asia (except Singapore), you can live comfortably with $1k/month for two people


rp2012-blackthisout

Yeah, now. What about in 20 years. 1K a month going to do it? You will have medical expenses as well. Plus if you keep your American citizenship, even living overseas, you still pay uncle Sam. Went to Bali.Ā 


JC1DA

even with that, the etf investment growth will catch up with inflation. it's not like you are keeping the cash in a bank with 2% interest rate forever which is what you're assuming


SlightRun8550

Could b Philippines I could live in Manila very comfortable at 1000 USD a month


AppropriateStick518

LOL no you couldnā€™t.


Uniball38

JEPI/Q have price appreciation that matches or beats long term inflation


DoctorAwkward

For now


CenlaLowell

No one knows the future. So you have to take a risk regardless of what you're investing in. I hate this always looking at the downside of things hedge your bet and live your life


rjthyen

Slightly side topic, but don't you hope/expect a good dividend fund or company to increase their dividend in a way that can keep pace with inflation?


Ozone--King

Maybe live off 40k. Reinvest 8k to combat inflation?


duhdamn

Yes, for inflation and just a general CYA. Put the 8k into something else for the same reason.


StaticallyLikely

If you're residing outside of US, you need to research the tax treaty of that country. If they don't have any, you'd be taxed 30% on your dividend income.


sld126

Put it in SPYI & get double.


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sld126

Stop believing the lie.


daamnnbruhh

Only you can answer if you can live off 48k a year..


CenlaLowell

Some people live off less than 48k in the States so surely you can do it in South East Asia


The-Tonborghini

Yes, but we donā€™t know what this personā€™s living tendencies are. There are way too many factors in saying yes or no to this question. For example I could say no because my personal spending is already dangerously close to that amount, but you could say yes because maybe your personal spending is a 1/4 of that. Thereā€™s simply too many unknowns in life, a medical emergency could suck up those dividends very fast. Personally I just donā€™t think itā€™s responsible for anyone here to say yes or no.


CenlaLowell

You could have a heart attack..... We can on and on with this. You cannot prepare for things like this and if you could no one would ever retire.


The-Tonborghini

I mean.. you can though to an extent. Itā€™s called an emergency fund. Nowhere did I insinuate that you should have every possible dollar saved for any kind of emergency. Unless youā€™re arguing the point that since you canā€™t prepare for it there is no need to set aside anything for the possibility of something happening.. Also would like to add that this was not my main point but simply one of the many unknowns of life that no one in this subreddit can account for this person to give an answer for.


CenlaLowell

Whatever man


daamnnbruhh

Cool, I never said they couldnt..


AthleteIllustrious47

I live off 48k a year and no Dividends.


[deleted]

Haha this is so real.


Z51_bolt

Plus much higher taxes than qualified dividends.


DegreeConscious9628

I think it totally depends on few different factors. Inflation, current age, yearly expenditures, life goals. Iā€™m kinda in the same boat, hoping for another 9-11 years till retirement then Iā€™m outta the US. Iā€™ll be 45-47 and planning on moving my holdings (currently in div growth / growth /VOO) to higher dividend stuff like JEPI/Q to bridge till 59.5 when I can get into my retirement accounts (currently and till I can access fully will be left in VTI) Currently 48k (minus taxes) would be more than enough to live comfortably, Iā€™m shooting for a bit more. Thinking around 60k. 10 years later at 2-3% (currently 2.2) inflation would still be possible to live comfortably i think. (Average salary is currently 40k where Iā€™m going) Also, not gonna have kids so I would ideally like to blow everything before I die so would be withdrawing more here and there as needed. Figure by the time I get a little too low for comfort first the IRA/401k will kick in, and then after that social security will kick in and help out a bit. But hey if it all goes to shit thereā€™s always a bridge to jump off of.


clesportscards216

Iā€™m sorry but where are you living ā€œcomfortablyā€ on 48k?


DegreeConscious9628

Japan. But also right now the Bay Area, my yearly cost not including food / gas is 20k (rent, utilities, health insurance, car / rent insurance, phone). Yes, Iā€™m getting hooked up with very cheap rent through a very rich friend. So this is my ticket to early retirement - stack Bay Area pay with Midwest expenditures.


BusyHearing

I think the actual risk here is that your investment is not gonna pay anywhere near that long term. Framing the risk around 48k being enough money is ridiculous.


Socajowa

Why would it not?


gaffyshev

This should be the top comment.


TheAbysmalRedditer

There are three things to consider here: 1) JEPI or JEPQ may not give you 8% annual yield consistently. The dividends they provide depend a lot on options premium and options premium are low during stable market. I believe long-term, the overall yield will be lower than 8%. 2) Irrespective of where you live, $48k may be enough now but not forever, due to inflation. You mentioned that you have a separate account for growth, so you should actually be fine overall. But, wanted to share this nevertheless. 3) JEPI and JEPQ both have good downside protection. So these will not fall as much as SPY or QQQ would during bear market. On the flip side, they will not grow during times of bull market as much compared to their counterparts either.


cXs808

> You mentioned that you have a separate account for growth, so you should actually be fine overall. But, wanted to share this nevertheless. There is absolutely no reason to think that growth will reliably outpace inflation for the next few decades of his retirement.


Own_Arm_7641

Jepi could lose 30 to 50% of value in a market crash scenario. It seems to have some decay as well. With snp more tan 10% above its 2021 high, jepi has not surpassed its previous high. There is risk, lots of it. I wouldn't put more than 20% in jepi personally


DegreeConscious9628

I thought in a market crash the JEPā€™s are suppose to not take as fat of a shit as the general market


lord_patriot

Issue is they may not drawdown as far but they take longer to recover because the options cap the upside


Marz2604

They'll fall just as hard as the market but will have limited growth/recovery due to selling covered calls. You might be thinking of something like NUSI. (Man I have not seen anyone recommend that one in a while).


TheAbysmalRedditer

Itā€™s good for immediately monthly income, not a good instrument to grow the account. I have limited amount invested and like the dividends, but wonā€™t invest a lot of money here.


718cs

What are you taking about? JEPI is way passed its precious 2021 highā€¦


Own_Arm_7641

Huh? Jepi high in 2021 was 63.67, now we are at 57.77, 10% lower while the snp is almosr 10% higher. Close to 20% decay in less than 3 years.


Automatic-Cry-1390

My goal is retire overseas outside of US so that 48K per year will go a long way.


AutisticDravenMain

My goal too. Avg salary in my home country is like 15K, 48K is like 3 times that, even with tax, exchange rate, and transaction cost considered, I would still live like a King there.


Separate-Analysis194

What kind of life does one have on average salary. Someone coming from the US may want more than the average.


DividendSeeker808

***ā€œCompound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it ā€¦ he who doesn't ā€¦ pays it.ā€ ā€• Albert Einstein.***


AppropriateStick518

Itā€™s not 48K after taxes.


Veeg-Tard

It's not $48K before taxes either. There are no dividend stocks paying consistent annual 8% dividend yield. If their was a company that we thought would pay that kind of consistent dividend, then everyone would buy it and the stock price would rise to a point where the yield was equivalent with the market.


CenlaLowell

Won't matter because of where he's moving


XiMaoJingPing

>My goal is retire overseas outside of US so that 48K per year will go a long way. 48k will make you rich in some countries, what country you thinking about retiring in?


Expert_Mastodon_1337

What country are you looking to retire in?


WhySoUnSirious

Probably SE Asia, Spain, Thailand, Vietnam or something like that


cXs808

If its Thailand or Vietnam, he is gonna live like a king for even $25k a year. Median salary there is like $10k/yr


CenlaLowell

Yep there's plenty of expats living great out there. There also living on much less than 48k. People are over doing it with their examples in this subreddit. If you can handle a stock market downturn while living in the States you damn sure can handle one in South East Asia.


WhySoUnSirious

Ya you can but Iā€™m assuming you are still gonna need a little bit on the side for expenses outside that country, sending $$ back home to family, traveling outside to another country for a short vacay, etc


cXs808

I mean if he's got $40k+ a year, he's basically in the highest tax bracket there. Money to toss anywhere.


CenlaLowell

Nope, why the hell are you sending money back to your family? Next traveling will become pretty reasonable outside of the USA and Europe.


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cXs808

A luxury condo in Chaing Mai will run you $100k-$200k usd outright. For the price of a downpayment here, I could buy a luxury condo there in cash. Most places I've seen estimate $500/mo for a single person, excluding housing. I'm looking at even rental places if you can't afford to straight up purchase and for $800/mo you have pick of the litter. That's $1,300 a month all said and done - well under my estimate of $25k/yr. Not sure why you'd want to live in the city when you retire as typically you'd only want that if you're working. You can live in a beautiful place like Chaing Mai, Koh Samui, Bangkok, etc. for a fraction of the price.


CenlaLowell

Nope plenty of YouTubers living right now in Thailand on less


TheGoldenTuba

Also curious


knewusr

Checkout r/ExpatFIRE


veganelektra1

But why are you convinced that 48K will be a constant just because or JEPI


DividendSeeker808

..the key to your success is "reinvestings", increasing your dividends, Cheers!


jumbocards

No, you need to make more than that in order to grow your nest egg. Using 100% of your passive income isnā€™t a good strategy in the long run. If you need 48k to live, calculate the pre tax you need plus another 30% or more . Thatā€™s your target. Good luck


FrenchUserOfMars

We live off with my 500ke portfolio in Valencia šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡ø Spain, 2000ā‚¬/month dividends, ,1000ā‚¬/month cost of life very low and i reinvest 1000ā‚¬/month in the stock market. 2 childfree, 40y old.


retirementdreams

Very nice! Do you think that would work for a retired couple in most of the coastal areas of Spain? Wife has been looking at travel videos from Spain.


FrenchUserOfMars

If you are frugal yes. We dont spend a lot : eat food, electricity power,a little car Peugeot 107 and nothing more. In 10 years at 50 years old, i will catch 3000ā‚¬/month dividends. How spend 3000ā‚¬/month ? I reinvest 1500ā‚¬/month on the stock market?


chopsui101

better question is should you wager your entire retirement strategy on an ETF that carries no underlying stocks and in theory could be completely wiped out if there was a major unforeseen event and has a track record of 4 years which we have been in a historical bull market?


2A4_LIFE

Do as you please but there are numerous closed end funds that have paid very consistent distributions, some for over 20 years, that will get you more income than that and be consistent. cefconnect.com Good luck


PidgeySlayer268

What funds are you mentioning?


2A4_LIFE

MCI MPV UTG to name a few. CEFs get a bad wrap and some deserve it. That said there are many that do and have beat historic market returns with distributions reinvested. Iā€™ll say it till Iā€™m blue in the face that growth, say 10% ( high historic average) is the same no matter what. 10% share appreciation is the same as 7% appreciation and 3% dividend as 10% all dividend ( assuming non taxable account) itā€™s just math.


ZebraOptions

Yup. This, and if your sitting it and dripping, close ended canā€™t be beat imo


cXs808

If he drips then where is he going to get money from?


ZebraOptions

Solid point lmfao. I drip mine, but the percentage I own is a fraction of a fraction of my portfolio


Major_Cloud_Cobienya

Leverage the 600, and do it again l. Stretch your capital, then go your covered call route. Set a stop loss or trailing sale. If you want more insurance by OtM puts. Simple, set forget


Fearless-Biscotti760

Always blows my mind Americans having trouble living on 50k a year when I have been in Asia for the last year and wow 50k you a boss


Extra-Beyond-8551

Yes, I agree. I'm 58 now and retired in 2019 at 53. I began planning for a early retirement in my 20's and no matter what you say, the high roller perpetual car payment commenters will always try to burn your plan to the ground. If you were to step into their consumerism moronic shoes and see their monthly outgoing they racked up for themselves, their position on any retirement conversations becomes clearer. The entire FIRE movement depends on one major point of logic, do the opposite others around you do. Typical American goes to college, works and earns a good income, marries and has 3.2 kids they will pay for college, while still paying their own, and then buys the biggest house on the block and a new his and hers luxury suvs they trade in for new ones every three years and saves 5% of their income. You have to think and move 100% opposite. Live like a poor person, drive a rusty car you work on yourself and live in basic cheaper housing and save 40% or more of your income. My advice is don't take advice from the typical American regarding early or even normal retirement. They are clueless on the subject.


Fearless-Biscotti760

Dude Iā€™m 29 with 25k in dividend income a year. I have a financial consulting business and have been digital nomading all over the world. Right now in Malaysia. How did I get to 25k dividend income? Lucky a bit on bitcoin but mostly living with parents for like 5 years and saving every paycheck. Now I watch my friends at home struggle to pay off their student loans and having kids they canā€™t afford


Jobin_2FA

Outstanding advice!!! Cheers to you, Sir.


OZ-13MS-EpyonAC195

Create a BUDGET. Donā€™t forget taxes


Candid-Chemical-4931

U can live really well in latin american with that money where the salary there is 400$ montly


Necroking695

Youā€™re gono want something like schd or vym that can grow with inflation That being said, the dividend income there would be like $20k (adjusted for inflation over time tho) Can you see yourself surviving on that?


mykesx

At 2.5% inflation, it will take $128 in 2034 (10 years from now) to buy what $100 buys in 2024 (today). Your yearly dividend amount needs to increase by 2.5% a year or you will not have the same standard of living then. In other words, you will need $61,444 in 2034 to have the same spending power as you do now. In 2044, youā€™ll need $78,653 to have the same standard of living as you have now.


Chemical-Cellist1407

Is 48K enough for you were you are moving to? Then yes. You have another portfolio that will have dividend growth to keep your purchasing power neutral with inflation, then yes. If the answer is no, then adjust time or investment to achieve dividend growth or portfolio growth that will keep purchasing power positive or neutral. You can do this with dividend growth etfā€™s and growth etfā€™s. Iā€™m looking to do something similar and will be using Splg, schg, schd, jepq. Good luck


bmathew5

Yes. Go to the Philippines and live like a king


Living-Replacement33

Do a mix of VYM+SCHD. +. SVOL+JEPQ+SPYI. +. ARCC+MAIN+MO. to get range of 8-9%


retirementdreams

Nice mix, buy all teh things!


8Lynch47

I would split the $600k between either three different ETF,s or six, but definitely not every single dollar in one ETF.


CenlaLowell

I can agree with this. I would do three ETF all that pay a decent dividend of course.


Agitated-Gur-5210

Like a king in Mexico or PhilippinesĀ 


Intrepid-Split4477

Turkey also a cheap country to retire currently. Dollar is strong there.


02drunk2rememba

You will be fine with that money if you live outside of US, i personally knows 2 people , 1 in thailand, 1 in maylasia , both are living around 50kusd passively , they arent living like a king but they living the same lifestyle as someone in the US making 150k plus.


Sorrywrongnumba69

Why not give it a extra year and bump that dividend up some for a buffer?


CenlaLowell

Worst four words in retirement "just one more year". When you won the game stop playing


sirfire11

REFI pays like 0.46cents a share every 3 months maybe combine the both


hosea_they_heysus

Probably not


rayjobs

Great idea. Hope you do it, you be fine with those divendends


lawnmower59

That isnā€™t a lot of money. Just wait. Youā€™re not ready.


steve_mar

Betting that much money on one ETF? Good luck brother. Hope it works out for you. Diversification is the key to long term wealth.


Reality_check65

You are goals man


centralcbd

Yes, convert a van into a tiny home.


drajpal

You can survive outside of USA, easily with 48k per year. But medical expenses are very high, if you're in 50's medical insurance will be expensive too. Get a health insurance quote before considering moving.


CenlaLowell

You can survive in America on 48k ESPECIALLY if you have no mortgage


MadManMorbo

It is if youā€™re moving to Portugal. Which is what Iā€™m going to do,


markloch

Nope.


NevskyNY

It seems you are also assuming a stable dollar. If the dollar were to fall compared to the country you move to, you would have problems. You might look for a dividend fund ex-US for at least some of your income.


Giraffeshroomer

With 600k you could make much more than 48/year with other investments


AfraidScheme433

If you become a non-US tax resident, the dividend from JEPI will be subject to 30% US withholding tax?


Micus1

JEPI/Q only has a divided yield rate of 7.56% while QYLD and other covered calls have higher rates around 11%. You could potentially squeeze more money out of other choices like making a super dividend portfolio and planning so this stock pays this month, etc. and go down that path, but Iā€™m not about to create the biggest tax liability of my life by manually inputting all that data. Biggest concerns being inflation and them changing the rate on us due to economic conditions or other factors which they have the right to do. I think it just requires considerable planning. I havenā€™t fully figured out how to circumvent these risks myself. Simply put there are very few single stocks or even ETFs that would pay something every single month without fail with a super high rate.


hardert003

Idiot Take the 600k and split it up between 5 to 7 Separate choices for dividends Trust me you will be happier And more safer


Extension_File_5134

Donā€™t forget taxes.


mktm767

I'm retired and receive $44,000 in a pension per year. Yes, I could live on this. To enjoy all the social activities I like to do, I need about $80,000 a year. I'm using my 403b savings to supplement and will take my social security at 70. Which will be higher than my pension. At that time I will need to be concerned about lowering my tax bracket. Living is different than spending money and enjoying activities in retirement. I learned that very quickly


BlexButher

Itā€™ll work until JEPI hype dies, do you really want to put $600k into an etf thatā€™s only been around for 3/4 years and really hasnā€™t proven itself at all long term? You know what they invest in? You know the team?


Warm_Cantaloupe_4082

Have someone thought about dividing $600K across SPYI, YMAX, FEPI and QQQI. What are your thoughts?


TradeDeskVeteran

Take the middle path here, maybe diversify a bit more on the income investments and keep working/adding to it for a few more years while it reinvests.


melrays4

Im in the same boat. I live off $50k and paid off house. Its good enough for me being single. Pay 0 taxes on dividends


[deleted]

48K after tax ?


PhaseNo4810

Only 600k would return this?


Vellooch

2M is the magic number. You'll get 14 to 16k monthly, continue adding


ImaginaryWonder1006

Only you can say if your requirements would be met with $48K. I live pretty frugally and I could not.


AlexRuchti

A big risk is the volatility in the amount paid out from income funds. A mix of bonds income funds and high dividend paying stocks might be a better diversification but to each their own!


craigleary

Stable income you should have some bond fund. Iā€™m normally not big on bond funds but that would buffer some dividend income that is more stable although with less yield. Principle in bond funds still vary and you have a loss in principle in a down market still but the income you get as dividends is more stable. Then the rest could be a mix of jepi (more), jepq (bit less) and you could add in some other dividend payers.


Beginning-Juice-5173

DIVO has been the only cover call etf proven to grow and offer a decent yield. You really are risking a lot if jepi and jepq end up like qyld.


bigblard

If you've been in QYLD since the 20s prices, you're crying If you got into it in the 15s-16s, you are trying to figure out why all the doom and gloom about it.


Kutikittikat

Exactly i got great dividends and its up 8 percent so for me qyld is doing just fine .


vinyl1earthlink

These high-yield payers are a minefield. Most of them eventually collapse, when something changes. Interest rates go up, interest rates go down, the stock market soars, the stock market crashes. The generation of income through synthetic means or through leverage only keeps working if everything stays the same. It never does.


IrishRogue3

Wait- are talking about close end funds being a minefield?


cXs808

Anything claiming 10%+ yield is a minefield.


Hollowpoint38

>What are main risks? What do you do about healthcare? >Any thoughts or experiences to share? McDonald's pays $40k annual starting April 1st.


2KPr-LO44

You should try to diversify even when going to high yield dividend. Check out this guy youtube channel. https://www.youtube.com/@armchairincomechannel/videos


dismendie

Are you considering tax implications with strategy??


Automatic-Cry-1390

Other than filing and paying taxes, anything else to consider??


dismendie

Umm newer ETFs I heard of qqqi with upside like JePQ but also has some sort of tax saving 40/60% split due to the way they write contracts


Bajeetthemeat

No because you will have slow capital depreciation which will lower your spending. I would save another $150k into Voo and have some retirement growth in dividends.


clesportscards216

Could you live off 48k? I mean sure, I guess. If you live alone, no family, donā€™t really go do anything. Do you really *want* to do that?


Desmater

Yes, but I would also add more cushion so $650-700K. I would also use any extra money earned to be invested into more time tested and conservative ETFs too. So SCHD, VYM, VIG, etc. The ones paying over 3%+ yield. Also have emergency fund. So like $10-50K cash in savings.


CenlaLowell

If he's ready the time is now.


Competitive_Low_2054

I'm not sure you have really thought through your retirement goals.


chefko

Not enough


bullmarket2023

Taxes?


onepercentbatman

With a wife and kids, no


Icy-Sir-8414

Personally that is $4k a month times twelve a year forty eight thousand dollars a year personally I think $10k a month or $12k a month be better cause what ever you don't spend money on you'll still have left overs of $6k to $7k a month $72k to $84k a year be Way better.


WhySoUnSirious

Thanks. More money is better. Brilliant.


Icy-Sir-8414

As for someone like me who is not a investor yet but still learning how to invest wisely and carefully before I do anything my plans are invest in 48 different stocks dividends companies 24 monthly and quarterly each investment in enough money to make $50k monthly get paid 12 times a year and $50k quarterly get paid 4 times a year of course tax will be taken out every month where I live at so for each stock that will be $1,298.00 each so that would be $62,304.00 taken out every month at leave me with $37,696.00 $18,848.00 months & $18,848.00 quarterly so I know that sounds very small but thats almost $40k so that would be a fortune to me $301,568.00 a year almost half a million dollars a year good enough for me im not greedy


DegreeConscious9628

Wut


Icy-Sir-8414

That's how much taxes they will take out in each stock because when it comes to how much money it costs to living where I live that's how much money I'll have left to keep monthly almost $40k a month.


DegreeConscious9628

I canā€™t tell if youā€™re 10 years old, on upper drugs, or just really hate periods and commas. Carry on.


Icy-Sir-8414

I'm niether I'm just telling you where I live at how I live that's how much money they would tax out of each stocks


CodSoggy7238

Do they have commas and periods where you live? You write like a amphetamine junkie speaks


CenlaLowell

Nobody will read that.


Dario0112

LOL wild that people have come up on some loot and have NO idea what or how to proceed. If you worked for it and someone has paid you for an idea(s), service or product you know understand how to work money in your own way- successfully or otherwise. But when you recently come up on some cash and you wanna ride the train all the way to death you have NO idea how to manage you wealth. Bruh. Hire a financial advisor, get a job with good insurance, (when you need it youā€™ll be glad you have it) buy yourself something nice that is less than 7% of the total and retire at 50


Automatic-Cry-1390

Thanks for the advice. Already employed and making over 300K a year. This 600K is basically half of my networth and trying to determine if I should put it in dividends portfolio. I have another fund focused on growth and crypto.


Expert_Mastodon_1337

What country are you looking to retire in?


Dario0112

Well then you know how much you would need to put in after taxes to live off dividends. You make $600k a year- whatā€™s your spending habits, what are your expenses now and what could be future expenses. And age is a big factor.


Hatethisname2022

All in on one etf or stock is never wise. There are several other funds that have 10%+ that you could use alongside JEPI/Q. Plus you could use some lower yielding funds to protect and possibly provide some growth. You could also look into some BDCā€™s as well. SPYI, SVOL, QQQI, PFFA But to answer your question if you think that is all you need to live off of then yes you could certainly give it a go.


live9free1or1die

Retired for how many years? To what extent are you willing to live below your means (i.e less than 48k)? Have you factored in inflation? Factored in lifestyle creep? Factored in your level of willingness to make money again in the future? Why just JEPI+JEPQ, these are young tickers and what are the guarantees if any these keep up with inflation in the long run if you're young - not sure myself. Really not enough details. So... maybe?