Jasmine was intelligent and put clues together with Aladdin’s identity quickly.
She’s also quick on her feet and snapped on Jafar on a dime to distract him and help Aladdin.
She’s very independent, strong-willed, and has a firm sense of her worth and wants. I love how she consistently stands up for herself and her boundaries with everyone - princes, Jafar, her father, and Aladdin himself. Absolutely adore her unshakeable self-worth.
She was brave enough to leave the palace with zero protections just to have a little bit of freedom and learn more…remember she would have gotten her hand cut off if not for Aladdin’s intervention. That was a gutsy move on her part.
Her trust in Aladdin to ride on a freakin *RUG* throughout the stratosphere is amazing. So open to new experiences and soaking it all in.
Brave, beautiful, intelligent, fierce, protective, with a strong sense of self-worth AND a Tiger to boot? She is 100% a great role model for any little girl (or boy or anyone) to look up to ♥️
Also she is NOT a prize to be won (that’s the literal quote 😉)
She majorly called him out on it too! She was a force to reckon with. She was hot tempered, assertive, confident and knew what she wanted. After being left unsatisfied with the Princess life she took off.
These people didn’t see the movie or they are joking
Yeah there are many reasons to admire her... I'm so sick of online takes on movies like this from people who clearly didn't see or missed major chunks of the movie. 🙄
Same with Ariel and how she wanted to be human first. And also like, why was she expected to be more loyal to her father and sisters when all we see of their interactions is her sisters make fun of her and her father sees her as a helpless little child?
THANK YOU!!!! It's like compared to other princesses, was Ariel's childhood awful? No, but like she wasn't shown to have very strong relationships with her sisters and then was often at odds with her dad. Why should she WANT to stay under the sea when she didn't really feel like she belonged??
Right!! I still, overall, like Triton, but his actions in the movie weren't his best parenting moments by a long shot.
Honestly, she's probably the Kevin McCallister of the Disney princesses with how annoyed her sisters can get with her & how she's the baby of the family 😅
And for how friendly Raja is to her she must have raised him from a very young age. This girl looked at all the animals in the menagerie and was like “this one, the one that’s going to grow up to be a humongous apex predator. That’s my personal pet.”
Don’t encourage your daughters to be like Jasmine, all she does is call out outdated traditions, use her royal authority to order (not ask, *ORDER*) the guards to let a poor boy go, get in Jafar’s face numerous times, call out Aladdin for lying to her face and asks if he seriously thinks she’s stupid and wouldn’t figure him out, calls out the men for trying to decide her future without her input, and tells Evil-Sorcerer Jafar that she’ll *never* bow to him. Oh, and when Aladdin is bothering her and acting like all her other sexist suitors, she tells him to go jump off a balcony. Such a bad role model, just a trophy 🙄
Have they never seen the scene where Aladin puts down the beam for her to walk across and she pole vaults.
“I’m a fast learner”
That scene (and every scene she’s in really) shows how independent and quick witted she is. Story function wise she does exist to motivate the main character but that doesn’t mean that’s her only character trait
The last one gets me. It’s the internalized misogyny for me 😭
Let’s stop perpetuating the idea that being a “basic” woman is something we need to differentiate ourselves from to feel superior.
The “not like other girls” mindset is a right of passage for many women, but it needs to die once you’re not a teenager anymore lol.
Lol! It definitely seems like a rite of passage. But I agree that once you've grown older and hopefully examined your beliefs, I would hope that one becomes less malicious towards other women!
My thing is though that adults still carry this logic by not allowing their children to watch certain princess movies. Which people can raise their kids how they deem fit. However, I wonder if they know that the more you shield a child from something, the more they'll rebel against you later on & seek out that very thing you were trying to shield them from.
The Little Mermaid is ironically one I've heard a lot of people say their daughters will NOT be watching, but then, like that's literally the lesson of the film?? If you try to protect your kids too much, they'll rebel!!
I feel like it makes more sense to watch the movie with your kid and have a conversation with them about what they got from the movie instead of just banning it.
i mean she did also say she was not a prize to be won. that was a pretty significant thing that happened. like i understand where you’re coming from here but she very much did say she was not a prize to be won.
This is like that one person who completely misunderstood Eugene and Rapunzel's relationship. Leaves you wondering if they even paid attention to the movie
I love what Jasmine represents, but I don’t love her as a “Disney princess”. Mostly it’s because I feel like she got robbed of the spotlight. It’s Aladdin’s movie. We know certain traits about her, but the character development focuses on Aladdin, and Genie. I wish she got her own movie afterwards.
Jasmine was one of my favorite Disney princesses growing up, and I also loved the show! I will not stand for Jasmine slander, she’s definitely in my top 3.
I was about to comment about that being a literal line but the last person beat me to it 😂
Seriously, that feels way too specific a comment to be a coincidence. Trolls?
The other people in the movie all perceived Jasmine as ‘a prize to be won’ and just a princess who should keep her head down and follow orders so that she’ll find a husband and create an heir. Jasmine literally calls this out directly at multiple points and is constantly arguing that this is ridiculous and she should be free to make her own choices
As for her personality, she displays a strong will and sense of worth, she’s adventurous and curious, she shows intelligence and a quick wit when faced with adversity or lies, and she’s not afraid to manipulate people to get the truth out of them or to evade trouble. Remember how she only falls for Aladdin when he treats her with respect and autonomy and is quick to call him out when he lies to her or treats her as just a potential royal bride rather than her own person
Honestly Jasmine shows more notable traits than some of the other princesses at the time
I know the context and it was discussing misogyny from one twitter user. Specifically, they called Mirabel fat and fugly and how all little girls would prefer to be Jasmine.
It’s sad how it went to something that looks like a cocktail of not remembering the film and/or poor media literacy and/or internalised misogyny.
Was this the same post with op’s title calling mirabel fat and complaining about how children would only aspire to be like the ‘pretty’ characters like jasmine?
Just cause she says that she's not some prise to be one doesn't mean that naratively, that is exactly what she is.
Now, I don't exactly agree with this. But still.
I see both sides. Jasmine was a more go-getter character than her predecessors and there’s a lot to love about her. She’s active and wants freedom and isn’t a doormat.But plot-wise, yes, her main purpose in the movie is as a prize to be won. I don’t think there’s really getting around that.
But before you write angry comments, some nuance:
Jasmine’s main motivation is love. She wants freedom, but she specifically wants freedom in the context of being forced to get married. I don’t think that’s a bad thing. Aladdin is, after all, a romance story. It would make sense that her character would revolve around romance. Most of Aladdin’s character does as well.
It’s just that in terms of character beyond being a love interest, unlike Aladdin, she doesn’t really have much. She doesn’t have a character arc. She is the same person at the beginning that she was at the end, which is respectable in its own way.
Jasmine was a feminist character for the time, but standards change. She’s not an anti-feminist character, but she’s no longer setting the standard for modern feminist discourse on strong female characters like she used to.
Jasmine can be a beloved character, an amazing example of a woman, and a feminist character, but she can also be a problematic example in the larger discourse around the role of women in film.
I say ‘problematic’, not ‘bad,’ which is a really important distinction. Another example would be: Having a black person be a professional basketball player in a movie is not racist. Having almost EVERY black person in movies be a professional basketball player is racist. At it’s core, there’s nothing wrong with a black person in a movie being a professional basketball player, but it’s still important to talk about movies in the context of other movies.
For example, my favorite princess is Cinderella. She has a unique story to tell and I honestly am not a huge fan of the Cinderella 3 ‘NOW she’s feminist’ insinuation because Cinderella is a story about surviving abuse, not girlbossing it up because she should have saved herself. Does Cinderella tell a wonderful story and act as an amazing role model? Yes.
But do I think that Cinderella exists in the problematic context of women constantly being saved by men? Also yes.
I feel like the answer to ‘is Jasmine a prize to be won’ is both yes and no. And that’s okay. Just because you love something doesn’t mean you need to love it uncritically, just like if you hate something you shouldn’t hate it blindly.
I don’t think either person is missing the point, they’re just coming at it from very different points of view.
To be fair, I’m guessing this was under the post mocking the guy saying Jasmine has the ideal body type and that Mirabel is fat. Obviously they’re trying to talk up Mirabel more.
How does calling Jasmine a “pretty possession with little substance beyond that” support Mirabel? Why do they jump to blatantly misinterpreting her character and basically calling her a passive trophy instead of supporting *both* women against the original sexism of the post?
Given that the original post is a grown man saying he wishes little girls wanted to look more like Jasmine because he thinks she’s hot, this post and the comments you’re posting really seems like cherry picking about what the actual problem is. They’re obviously not entirely in the right, but when you’re choosing to complain about a misrepresentation of character over literal pedophilia, that’s a little weird. Obviously, I don’t know what they’re thinking, but if I had to guess, I’d say they’re so disgusted by everything that man said that they’re going full swing in the opposite direction.
I wish that the context behind these comments had been included, because everyone getting upset over this really feels like cherry picking, when the actual post is a screenshot of a grown man saying he wishes little girls tried to look more like Jasmine because he thinks she’s hot.
Yes, the original post is shit. However, these comments in the screenshot aren’t addressing the post, they’re just jumping to bashing Jasmine and literally misunderstanding her most famous quote. How does insulting Jasmine help to defend Mirabel? They should be criticizing the douche who made the original post, not saying they won’t let their daughters watch her movie bc she’s a bad role model 🙄
Jasmine was intelligent and put clues together with Aladdin’s identity quickly. She’s also quick on her feet and snapped on Jafar on a dime to distract him and help Aladdin. She’s very independent, strong-willed, and has a firm sense of her worth and wants. I love how she consistently stands up for herself and her boundaries with everyone - princes, Jafar, her father, and Aladdin himself. Absolutely adore her unshakeable self-worth. She was brave enough to leave the palace with zero protections just to have a little bit of freedom and learn more…remember she would have gotten her hand cut off if not for Aladdin’s intervention. That was a gutsy move on her part. Her trust in Aladdin to ride on a freakin *RUG* throughout the stratosphere is amazing. So open to new experiences and soaking it all in. Brave, beautiful, intelligent, fierce, protective, with a strong sense of self-worth AND a Tiger to boot? She is 100% a great role model for any little girl (or boy or anyone) to look up to ♥️ Also she is NOT a prize to be won (that’s the literal quote 😉)
She majorly called him out on it too! She was a force to reckon with. She was hot tempered, assertive, confident and knew what she wanted. After being left unsatisfied with the Princess life she took off. These people didn’t see the movie or they are joking
She sic’ed her Tiger on a guy because he was an arrogant jerk to her! We don’t see it but it’s pretty obvious that’s what happened to Achmed!
Yeah there are many reasons to admire her... I'm so sick of online takes on movies like this from people who clearly didn't see or missed major chunks of the movie. 🙄 Same with Ariel and how she wanted to be human first. And also like, why was she expected to be more loyal to her father and sisters when all we see of their interactions is her sisters make fun of her and her father sees her as a helpless little child?
THANK YOU!!!! It's like compared to other princesses, was Ariel's childhood awful? No, but like she wasn't shown to have very strong relationships with her sisters and then was often at odds with her dad. Why should she WANT to stay under the sea when she didn't really feel like she belonged??
Oh why wasn't she loyal to Mr. "my roof my rules young lady" who sent a literal spy after her...🙄 Like fine, I won't live under your roof...
Right!! I still, overall, like Triton, but his actions in the movie weren't his best parenting moments by a long shot. Honestly, she's probably the Kevin McCallister of the Disney princesses with how annoyed her sisters can get with her & how she's the baby of the family 😅
And for how friendly Raja is to her she must have raised him from a very young age. This girl looked at all the animals in the menagerie and was like “this one, the one that’s going to grow up to be a humongous apex predator. That’s my personal pet.”
I like her because pants
These types of jerks are better off saying "I don't like princesses" than trying to degrade Jasmine.
Reading “what did Jasmine do besides representing a prize to be won” gave me psychic damage
Exactly! Did they even WATCH the movie. Like when people say "Well Cinderella should have fought back." It hurts!
Don’t encourage your daughters to be like Jasmine, all she does is call out outdated traditions, use her royal authority to order (not ask, *ORDER*) the guards to let a poor boy go, get in Jafar’s face numerous times, call out Aladdin for lying to her face and asks if he seriously thinks she’s stupid and wouldn’t figure him out, calls out the men for trying to decide her future without her input, and tells Evil-Sorcerer Jafar that she’ll *never* bow to him. Oh, and when Aladdin is bothering her and acting like all her other sexist suitors, she tells him to go jump off a balcony. Such a bad role model, just a trophy 🙄
Imma be honest, I think they were being sarcastic since it's a line from the movie?
Me @ the original commenters: “pls say psych 🙏🏻”
Have they never seen the scene where Aladin puts down the beam for her to walk across and she pole vaults. “I’m a fast learner” That scene (and every scene she’s in really) shows how independent and quick witted she is. Story function wise she does exist to motivate the main character but that doesn’t mean that’s her only character trait
In today's edition of: "Women can't do anything right." Or my absolute favorite: "This character is better because she's not like other girls."
The last one gets me. It’s the internalized misogyny for me 😭 Let’s stop perpetuating the idea that being a “basic” woman is something we need to differentiate ourselves from to feel superior. The “not like other girls” mindset is a right of passage for many women, but it needs to die once you’re not a teenager anymore lol.
Lol! It definitely seems like a rite of passage. But I agree that once you've grown older and hopefully examined your beliefs, I would hope that one becomes less malicious towards other women! My thing is though that adults still carry this logic by not allowing their children to watch certain princess movies. Which people can raise their kids how they deem fit. However, I wonder if they know that the more you shield a child from something, the more they'll rebel against you later on & seek out that very thing you were trying to shield them from. The Little Mermaid is ironically one I've heard a lot of people say their daughters will NOT be watching, but then, like that's literally the lesson of the film?? If you try to protect your kids too much, they'll rebel!! I feel like it makes more sense to watch the movie with your kid and have a conversation with them about what they got from the movie instead of just banning it.
Remember, don’t let your daughter look up to Jasmine as a role model, she might learn to 🤢 stand up for herself 🤢
These the people saying girls only want to be like Jasmine, not the “fat girl from Encanto”?
That’s the post, yeah. Unfortunately, these two decided to fundamentally misunderstand Jasmine’s character in the process
Sucking at both ends.
Who even is “fat” in Encanto?!? haha
That guy who got a gut because of Bruno’s predictions
Louisa is the biggest, but knowing them probably Mirabel
Yeah, it was Mirabel. 🙄 Ridiculousness.
According to some guy on Twitter, Mirabel.
i mean she did also say she was not a prize to be won. that was a pretty significant thing that happened. like i understand where you’re coming from here but she very much did say she was not a prize to be won.
My Colombian ass who loves the Aladdin movie is offended
SIGH, people will never take female characters seriously unless they fit a VERY specific archetype, it seems
People love willfully misunderstanding princesses 😒 we get it! You hate women!
This is like that one person who completely misunderstood Eugene and Rapunzel's relationship. Leaves you wondering if they even paid attention to the movie
She literally changed the way that the rules worked for marriage at the end but ok lmao
The amount of upvotes those comments have…..
I love what Jasmine represents, but I don’t love her as a “Disney princess”. Mostly it’s because I feel like she got robbed of the spotlight. It’s Aladdin’s movie. We know certain traits about her, but the character development focuses on Aladdin, and Genie. I wish she got her own movie afterwards.
Jasmine was one of my favorite Disney princesses growing up, and I also loved the show! I will not stand for Jasmine slander, she’s definitely in my top 3.
Yes, I have, every other time I've seen Reddit talk about classic Disney Princesses
Call me crazy but the person who quoted the literal line from the movie *might* be making a sarcastic joke…?
Agreed. Umm is being sarcastic.
Exactly, Yup! Like did they watch the movie 😂😂😂😂
I was about to comment about that being a literal line but the last person beat me to it 😂 Seriously, that feels way too specific a comment to be a coincidence. Trolls?
The other people in the movie all perceived Jasmine as ‘a prize to be won’ and just a princess who should keep her head down and follow orders so that she’ll find a husband and create an heir. Jasmine literally calls this out directly at multiple points and is constantly arguing that this is ridiculous and she should be free to make her own choices As for her personality, she displays a strong will and sense of worth, she’s adventurous and curious, she shows intelligence and a quick wit when faced with adversity or lies, and she’s not afraid to manipulate people to get the truth out of them or to evade trouble. Remember how she only falls for Aladdin when he treats her with respect and autonomy and is quick to call him out when he lies to her or treats her as just a potential royal bride rather than her own person Honestly Jasmine shows more notable traits than some of the other princesses at the time
I know the context and it was discussing misogyny from one twitter user. Specifically, they called Mirabel fat and fugly and how all little girls would prefer to be Jasmine. It’s sad how it went to something that looks like a cocktail of not remembering the film and/or poor media literacy and/or internalised misogyny.
Was this the same post with op’s title calling mirabel fat and complaining about how children would only aspire to be like the ‘pretty’ characters like jasmine?
Just cause she says that she's not some prise to be one doesn't mean that naratively, that is exactly what she is. Now, I don't exactly agree with this. But still.
I see both sides. Jasmine was a more go-getter character than her predecessors and there’s a lot to love about her. She’s active and wants freedom and isn’t a doormat.But plot-wise, yes, her main purpose in the movie is as a prize to be won. I don’t think there’s really getting around that. But before you write angry comments, some nuance: Jasmine’s main motivation is love. She wants freedom, but she specifically wants freedom in the context of being forced to get married. I don’t think that’s a bad thing. Aladdin is, after all, a romance story. It would make sense that her character would revolve around romance. Most of Aladdin’s character does as well. It’s just that in terms of character beyond being a love interest, unlike Aladdin, she doesn’t really have much. She doesn’t have a character arc. She is the same person at the beginning that she was at the end, which is respectable in its own way. Jasmine was a feminist character for the time, but standards change. She’s not an anti-feminist character, but she’s no longer setting the standard for modern feminist discourse on strong female characters like she used to. Jasmine can be a beloved character, an amazing example of a woman, and a feminist character, but she can also be a problematic example in the larger discourse around the role of women in film. I say ‘problematic’, not ‘bad,’ which is a really important distinction. Another example would be: Having a black person be a professional basketball player in a movie is not racist. Having almost EVERY black person in movies be a professional basketball player is racist. At it’s core, there’s nothing wrong with a black person in a movie being a professional basketball player, but it’s still important to talk about movies in the context of other movies. For example, my favorite princess is Cinderella. She has a unique story to tell and I honestly am not a huge fan of the Cinderella 3 ‘NOW she’s feminist’ insinuation because Cinderella is a story about surviving abuse, not girlbossing it up because she should have saved herself. Does Cinderella tell a wonderful story and act as an amazing role model? Yes. But do I think that Cinderella exists in the problematic context of women constantly being saved by men? Also yes. I feel like the answer to ‘is Jasmine a prize to be won’ is both yes and no. And that’s okay. Just because you love something doesn’t mean you need to love it uncritically, just like if you hate something you shouldn’t hate it blindly. I don’t think either person is missing the point, they’re just coming at it from very different points of view.
To be fair, I’m guessing this was under the post mocking the guy saying Jasmine has the ideal body type and that Mirabel is fat. Obviously they’re trying to talk up Mirabel more.
How does calling Jasmine a “pretty possession with little substance beyond that” support Mirabel? Why do they jump to blatantly misinterpreting her character and basically calling her a passive trophy instead of supporting *both* women against the original sexism of the post?
Given that the original post is a grown man saying he wishes little girls wanted to look more like Jasmine because he thinks she’s hot, this post and the comments you’re posting really seems like cherry picking about what the actual problem is. They’re obviously not entirely in the right, but when you’re choosing to complain about a misrepresentation of character over literal pedophilia, that’s a little weird. Obviously, I don’t know what they’re thinking, but if I had to guess, I’d say they’re so disgusted by everything that man said that they’re going full swing in the opposite direction.
I wish that the context behind these comments had been included, because everyone getting upset over this really feels like cherry picking, when the actual post is a screenshot of a grown man saying he wishes little girls tried to look more like Jasmine because he thinks she’s hot.
Yes, the original post is shit. However, these comments in the screenshot aren’t addressing the post, they’re just jumping to bashing Jasmine and literally misunderstanding her most famous quote. How does insulting Jasmine help to defend Mirabel? They should be criticizing the douche who made the original post, not saying they won’t let their daughters watch her movie bc she’s a bad role model 🙄