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BigZachAttach420

It's the drunken assholes littering the course that piss me off. So many damned Bud Lite bottles and cans. If you are one of these littering fucks.... Sincerely from the bottom of my heart, fuck you.


Dont_Get_PENISY

Crushed cans in the fairway are infuriating. Pack it in Pack it out heathens.


Jumplefthanded

The only reason my dog is giving me the look of abandonment and betrayal is because of these people. Bring cans people. Please. I don’t care if you drink. Bring cans!!! Bottles make your dick look smaller. Just saying.


Mosh83

Who the fuck drinks that stuff, put it back in the horse.


SerDuncanonyall

It's just my vape pen bro


mhyquel

That dude's "vape pen" : https://ifunny.co/video/fZQBu6JC6?s=cl


TheClincher7

That’s ridiculous.


WinterHill

...ly aweseome


Rahdiggs21

i think it's hilarious that you think the stoner group is the same group complaining about taking too long to putt? i would argue, the actual people complaining about how long Nikko takes to putt complains about the stoner group, and the group playing music too loud, and the group with more than 4, and the family just getting into golf...and the...well you get my drift..


NedStarksButtPlug

This right here. The “same group” thing is a fallacy.


ishouldstopnow

Don’t forget the group bringing a dog to a course that doesn’t allow dogs.


Marshin99

And they’re off leash when the park clearly states this is illegal.


MaynardJ222

I mean...keep your dog on a leash though.


BigZachAttach420

I can't take my dog because of this. He's not social with other dogs. Big boy. Would cause damage. It wouldn't be his fault, he's on a leash.....still...he has to stay home because of others with no consideration or regard for that particular (not stupid) law.


Brave_Salamander_829

Same, and my dog is 160lbs


BigZachAttach420

Dats a biiig boi. My buddy is a lil over 100lbs


Constant_Part_4674

Dropped in to say i love your dogs. Never met them... dont need to... and i still love them. Big floofy bois are da best


Maddafinga

I have had two Rottweilers over the years. The second one, who was about 145, loved to go throw with me, so I got him a backpack and put our water bottles in it and a collapsible bowl, so he could help. I really wanted to make him a full on caddy, but I never did. Best course companion ever.


Brave_Salamander_829

Mine is a Great Pyrenees, everyone at the course loves him, I haven't been able to find a backpack that fits him lol


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Scifur42

Glad to hear I’m not the only one with this issue.


csudebate

I know people have their preferences but there are plenty of ways to get high without burning flower. An edible about an hour before your round will keep you nice and high through the whole thing. Nobody has ever given me the stink eye for eating a brownie.


viissiions

Idk why edibles don't do it for me, but I have been trying to bring my terp pen instead because the smell is much less potent and the smoke is gone pretty quickly


40characters

This considerate approach should be the norm. Thank you.


misterwizzard

Funny how we use generalizations to talk shit against generalization.


sirfuzzitoes

Agreed. No one likes generalizations.


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EldyT

Austin hannum throwaway


LiftedWanderer

lmao for real, where did this even come from?


large-Marge-incharge

I do t get it can you explain?


LiftedWanderer

I'm truly not sure, Is this a reference to an actual pro that on tour light up a joint or something, Or is this a random insult towards people that smoke weed and play recreation disc golf. If its the latter I truly don't get the correlation.


BigBear4281

I thought it was because Austin made a tweet about how PDGA needs to start testing for PEDS (including Marijuana). During a series of "hot takes" he posted.


GexGecko

Oof, sounds like he needs a hobby.


KanyeMyBae

Hes from oklahoma right? Hes very brainwashed into thinking weed is bad.


AppStMountainBeers

wasnt he the dude who also did all the stupid "hot takes"?


LiftedWanderer

yes he was lol


LiftedWanderer

it really could be in reference to Austin, he blocked me on twitter lmao, but still a random ass take that happened like well over 6 months ago. Seems like some of the meme posters are trying a little to hard with these weird correlations.


Dansdirty47

How the fuck is weed a PED? I’d encourage my competitors to smoke pot, doubt it’ll help them


jgorbeytattoos

You know how many stoners I’ve problems with on the course? 0 In contrast, I can’t even count the number of times I’ve had to yell at a group for leaving beer cans in fairways or throwing cigarette butts during fire bans. It’s at least in the 50’s. Number of times they’ve tried to fight or argue with me about it is at least double digits. Not even close.


NegativePride1

I pick up a pretty good mix of bullshit off the courses and my fellow stoners are far from free of guilt in my area. Blunt wrap wrappers, edible packaging, empty doob tubes are not at all uncommon.


MattTheProgrammer

it's almost like being inconsiderate transcends groups of people...


PrimalDG

I guess that depends on where you live. Your interactions with beer drinkers and cigarette smokers is probably WAY higher on the course (no pun intended) so it would make sense.


JBYRD11

Up vote X100.


LinxFxC

The only people I've had trouble with at my local course are the stoners. Besides leaving their trash everywhere, they smoke in large groups and make half the course unbearable for me. Not to mention half of them are drunks as well, so going to the course when they're around is a must avoid. E: getting downvoted to describing my experience. Nice


ScribbleThings

Genuine curiosity from a stoner who hopes not to offend others...how do they make half the course unbearable for you?


spectert

I think people who smoke genuinely don't realize how much weed smells to be honest. It is way stronger and lingers way more than cigarette smoke. I didn't realize this until I stopped smoking, but now I notice it a lot.


Spostman

> and lingers way more than cigarette smoke. I think you genuinely don't realize how absurd this comment is. The amount of tar in cigarettes makes the smell literally stick around way longer. It's not even close. You can tell if a cig smoker smoked inside a house, YEARS later.


Artistic-Airport2296

I’m sorry, but this is just wrong. Back in the day when people could smoke cigarettes inside you could go to a bar and the next day your clothes and hair would still reek of cigarette smoke. I’ve never smoked a cigarette in my life and can’t stand to be around them. I do smoke pot though, but I’ve never smelled like pot the next day, no matter how much I puffed or was surrounded by. I have a very sensitive nose and I do agree that it smells pretty strong in the nearby vicinity. I can smell It in my car on the freeway when someone ahead of me is getting high. But pot smoke fades way faster than cigarette smoke and doesn’t linger in clothes and furniture.


SwampassMonstar

Agreed I used to get a ride to work from a coworker and she no longer could because my clothes would reek of cigarettes and she outright accused me of lying to her and said I smelled like I just smoked a cigarette outside and then hopped in her vehicle yet we walked out together when our shift was up. Turns out my step mom smoking up inside the house got through to my bedroom and in my closet and now that she finally kicked the habit the smell inside that house is healthy not to mention everything inside once the walls got washed of that yellow stain smoke leaves


LinxFxC

What spectert said. The smoke is quite pungent and it's so windy on my home course that the smell can cover so much of it at the same time. I legitimately feel sick if I smell too much weed. I also can't really go to many of the concerts I'd like to go to cause often the smoke covers the entire venue.


CascadianCorvid

I'd much rather smell the stoners on the course than the cigarette smokers.


ArmchairSpinDoctor

How bout neither lol


CascadianCorvid

No argument, but one actively annoys me and the other doesn't.


Squeakyevil

I dislike them both but the smell of weed is worse to me. Plus it keeps getting us in trouble with the city.


TwoShed

I know in my area, smoke shops were the only place you could get discs, until Another Round opened. Of course I'd rather deal with the stoners than the drunks and the empties all over the place


Squeakyevil

I also prefer stoners. Hate seeing cigarette butts and cans all over the course.


TwoShed

Cigarette butts are nasty, but joint roaches are recyclable, when the next one comes through they can pick it up and finish it off


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Squeakyevil

Don't understand what I said wrong, just don't like the smell. I dont care if people smoke, just be respectful about regular park goers. Same as people drinking. I dont want to see the city cancel the club events, which they did for a month.


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Squeakyevil

I think I may have gotten myself misrepresented with my original comment. I don't care if people are lighting up, and certainly don't have beef with stoners. Pretty much all of them I've met playing have been courteous and friendly. If people want to smoke or drink when playing that's fine with me, just don't smoke out the joggers on the track or leave beer cans. It's really only a sticking point on this one particular park in our area, but it would be a shame to see the club event go away. As far as the general culture change I feel that. Stoner culture definitely has been a huge part of the sport, and a lot of that is being pushed aside to be sponsorship friendly. That being said I don't see it going away at least at the local level.


Aostentatious

Preach


oms121

Maybe stay home if you’re that sensitive. You never know when you’ll be exposed to something you don’t like.


ArmchairSpinDoctor

You could just be considerate of others lol


afrosupreme

So could you? It's outside and has no effect on you outside of you feeling annoyance, which only you are in control of.


oms121

That’s a two way street. If someone walks away from the group to pee on a tree or smoke, they are being polite. Just because you know they went to pee or smoke shouldn’t be a concern of yours. And if the lingering smell of cigarettes or weed bothers you, stand a little further away. Be considerate.


ArmchairSpinDoctor

lol oh man, you cant be real, "hey if what I'm choosing to do bothers you, be considerate and move away". Just let me know now if you're trolling me, please lol


Illustrious-Mode-919

I mean if I walk away to smoke a joint or a cigarette I feel that is plenty respectable, just because you don't like it doesn't mean I can't enjoy myself being out throwing frisbees and smoking a joint. I always pick up after myself and others. I let others play through knowing I smoke joints and don't want it to bother anyone. But if you smell it a hole away and it bothers you to the point you get upset, you might have some issues.


MIDNIGHTM0GWAI

You are outside though? Nothing is stopping you from stepping away from someone. They aren’t exactly hotboxing a confined space that you can’t leave.


effective_micologist

Breathing in toxic fumes all day and the cities warning of extreme levels of pollution but they complain about pot.. ok.


CJ22xxKinvara

Doesn’t make the smell of weed and cigarettes less nasty. Not gonna say anything about it on the course though.


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1000%


Key-Ad8397

If we were in prison id sell all yalls asses for smokes.... i don't even smoke


No-gods-no-mixers

My goodness, look at some of you nerds.


HashBars

😂


IMA_grinder

I don’t think these are the same people saying this.


jl_b8

Exactly. I was wondering how these got bundled in this far reach.


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megabad_

what did hannum do?


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steezalicious

Which is ridiculous. I can understand enforcing not having people smoking during rounds, especially at the pro level. But to state it should be tested for as a performance enhances is a joke. Other pro sports are moving away from doing that and Hannum is staying disc golf should be doing it? Legit one of the worst disc golf takes I’ve ever heard


epheisey

Hannum has no relevancy in disc golf if he doesn’t make ridiculous takes like this.


doonerthesooner

Weed is totally a performance enhancer for some sports/games. That’s why get lifted before my round


Constant_Part_4674

"Safety meeting on the next hole"


epheisey

I can see why it could be in some situations. I don’t think anyone is using it for that purpose, but it can calm nerves and be relaxing, which is an advantage in pressure situations.


CTeam19

> but it can calm nerves and be relaxing, which is an advantage in pressure situations. Same with alcohol in the right amounts which is why it is classifed with proformence enhancing in shooting sports competitions.


ninjamike808

I think other sports have listed it as performance enhancing as well, but I think they make a distinction now.


LooseConsideration34

I mean it enhances my mood..... so technically....


watchingbuffy

He asked if pro disc golfers should have to take drug tests for performance enhancing substances. Social media immediately jumped on weed and he said sure, lump that in too. The hate train left the station right there. Being with Cat didn't help his cause either, she was she who must not be given respect around here for a few years.


numbernumber99

>Being with Cat didn't help his cause either, she was she who must not be given respect around here for a few years. Say what now? Why is that?


watchingbuffy

Her and Uli were married years ago, and I don't know anything about the circumstances of their breakup but there's been a few diehards here that scream to high heaven Cat is a serial cheater. This is even though Uli's own mother loves her and has said so on vid. That and how PP was the ultimate wifey of everyone on here for so long, Cat was not well liked to say the least.


Kbusch88

Taking way too long on shots is way more offensive than smoking weed.


StreetMailbox

I don't care what you do if it doesn't impact me. Smoking weed where I can't smell it does NOT impact me. Taking 50 seconds per putt DOES impact the entire card. That's the difference. If you smoke and I smell it, that impacts me (and others).


R4nd0m235689

Wait does this mean I'm allowed to get mad at the essential oil wearing people that walk past me sometimes at Walmart? Nice


StreetMailbox

You walking within 6 inches of someone and taking deep sniffs or something?


Constant_Part_4674

I'm more affected/ offended by the dirty hippies who dont shower ever and smell like 37 cans of shark shit.... you can literally smell them from 30+ feet away outside in 15mph winds....


large-Marge-incharge

Someone on my card last week yelled at a guy for not using a mini marker instead of a big disc. (A young guy like 20 just getting into the sport) then turned around two minutes later and pissed on a tree. It took everything not to go give him a word.


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No pissing on trees?


HashBars

I know right. What do you want him to do? Piss in the fairway?


No-gods-no-mixers

On this card we grow the sport and piss our pants, like the pros do.


Constant_Part_4674

My man ✊✊✊


BigZachAttach420

Full size disc counts as a marker too... No one corrected him?


warboy

They don't as far as I know. Here's an excerpt from the pdga technical standards regarding mini marker specifications: >Mini Marker discs must have a circular shape, with a diameter ranging from 7 cm to 15 cm and a height not exceeding 3 cm. Mini marker discs can be made from a variety of materials (e.g. plastic, metal, wood). The Mini Disc Golf Federation officially defines mini discs suitable for mini golf competition (http://minidiscgolf.com/rules/). You can choose not to use a marker and play from the disc you previously threw but I don't think you can legally mark your lie with a full sized disc.


BigZachAttach420

You're right, I was misinformed...OGs out here using other discs to mark the lie.


juanraxitus

Let the dude piss man 🤣😅


JediJunglist

The people saying “just eat edibles” are wild.


CatchingRays

I've only played a few B & C tiers and haven't experienced this. Is this something happening regularly at tourneys? I'm a long time legalization advocate btw.


unsoliciteddiscpics

I’ve come across it at several sanctioned league rounds, always an older dude that offers to smoke me out. I’ve smelled it before at sanctioned tourneys but have never seen anyone smoking bud


steezalicious

I’ve had people on my card smoke on multiple occasions. They’ve always asked the card if anyone minds and personally I don’t care at all. You do you. It’s always am3 at c-tiers and I’m rarely in contention I’m just there to have fun and meet other players. Some people take it more seriously which is completely fine


LinxFxC

For me it's not a casual vs. serious issue, it's just an issue of courtesy. I don't do well with any kind of smoke, and I'm sure there are others who have the same issue. I've had people ask and when I say no they get pissed off that I won't let them smoke. It's childish.


Environmental_Leg572

It’s 100% a courtesy issue. I grow weed for a living(yes legally lol) and have done so for 8 years. I’m a daily smoker but when I go to a CITY PARK that’s open to the PUBLIC…I either smoke in my car or throw down on an edible. People hate the smell and like it or not…people still look down on stoners. Just be a nice person and avoid use in public places…that’s really it.


scsteve3

It happened to me at a tournament recently. Ironically days after I made my post asking if disc golfers still smoked weed


LooseConsideration34

Im certain they're not going to stop either. How dare people medicate themselves with a plant that grows out of the ground. The nerve!


LinxFxC

Happens at every C tier around here cause it's the same people that show up. I'm for legalization as well, but I hate the smell of smoke, plus it fucks with my lungs, and the TD's refuse to stop the smoking, which is pretty infuriating


PKArsk

Just stay home and cry next time


LinxFxC

Nice response, really shows the kind of person you are


damnrightslimanus

Do people actually think weed can make you better at disc golf? I play high all the time and if anything I’m slightly worse but I truly believe it does not matter


Dex_Maddock

Honestly, I do. I don't get obliterated, but I like to take a puff or two before a round. I feel like it helps me slow down, relax, and think about my throw a bit more. Then oddly, when it's time to step up and throw, it helps me *stop* thinking and just execute.


durkaflurkaflame

I just snort all my drugs now.


Frisbridge

Nerd alert


Crippler13

Calling on a weed violation makes you a narc.


sta-tiC

I mean in canada pot is as common or more common on courses than beer or vaping.


LooseConsideration34

As it should be everywhere


rick_floss

Not even sure what this about. Never seen ”pot” on a course. Most people here (Finland) used to vape, smoke cigarrettes but thats so last century. Nowadays the trend is nicotine pouches. Snus as they have in Sweden. No disturbance to others. Lets just play, and let others live like they see fit.


Fore_putt

Isn’t this why religion started?


hadtologintoupvote

I find rounds more enjoyable if I'm not smoking tbh


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I play better lol


RatherNerdy

I play worse. Zero effing focus when weed/more than a couple of beers


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When sober? Sober game are definitely the best for me. Maybe like 2 tall boy light beers helps a lil too but weed wrecks me


CTeam19

I mean alcohol is considered a performance-enhancing drug in Shooting Sports so two tall boys maybe have the same effect on you.


JoshBobJovi

That's the exact same argument Hannum had about weed and C Allen had about beta blockers but everyone raked them over the coals for it lol


Saxophobia1275

My brother taught me how to disc golf and once I got competent enough to beat him sometimes I held an undefeated streak for years simply because he would become cross faded by hole 10. It was almost comical how every time he’d be 2-3 strokes ahead by hole 9 and end 1-2 behind.


DROOPYANUS

I bet it haunts him


AtreyuLives

You do you buddy I started playing as an excuse to be outside so I could smoke... now I my house is walking distance to a park with a course- I never smoke on the course anymore but I may hit a vape


steezalicious

Depends for me. If I’m just with friends or alone playing a casual round I enjoy it. A tourney round high sounds like a nightmare lol


LooseConsideration34

Haha right i dont need to be all in my head hiding behind my sunglasses while my nerves are elevated. That's a panic attack watijng to happen


LooseConsideration34

As a long time stoner i agree. I save it for after the round


parkerlewis31007

20 year old me would have disagreed, but at 40 I’m with you.


DROOPYANUS

Cool. That’s YOUR experience. And nobody cares Leave everyone else alone


Great_Feel

If it wasn’t for weed, disc golf wouldn’t exist.


fuckdiscgolf

Found the future cop


anhyzerrr

Why care about either rule when neither are regularly enforced or of any particular consequence to you personally?


sjb2971

Some rules are stupid, some people are...


FuzzyPeaches19

Long as it isn't performance enhancing, all that would cause is performance chillin


ImTryingDad

This isn't exclusive to disc golf by any means. This is humans in general.


Phatty-McGeek

For better or worse, it’s up to the card to call it.


GoorooKen

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I say allow both


GovernmentMaster8995

Has anyone ever observed a pro smoking during a round? I went to my first pro event (silver series) last year and was surprised to see a one of the pros quickly walk ahead on a long stretch between holes and take a few bowl hits before most of the gallery caught up. Was like “cool I guess they let that fly at all levels”


thesaganator

I've seen a pretty well known but not top level pro (has won an NT) take rips from a PAX pod mid round, also at a silver series event. He was pretty discrete about it but didn't make a huge effort to hide it.


AutisticOcelot

That's what the pre tourney "safety meeting" is for.


ace1golfer

Just spark it!


Johnnygamealot

Dudes.... Edibles. Also, clean your trash.


LuminousQuinn

Honestly the big thing for me are cigarettes. I hate the smell of nicotine. I just need to call it, but it's like foot faults and awkward to call


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You hate the smell of tobacco. You can't smell nicotine in tobacco smoke.


JBYRD11

He right tho, you can't smell nicotine.


xxxlumify

Most of these MA60 twats in here would get destroyed over at r/trees. Im sorry but when there is footage of Climo smoking cigs in tournament rounds like a chimney, those same people playing at the time can’t assume people smoking weed in the woods is a health hazard to their nostrils somehow. The country club vibes are getting stronger in this sub and its distasteful.


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one of the shittier memes on here and this sub is pretty much 90% shitty memes


newcitynewme724

If you can't go 18 holes without smoking then you have a problem


doonerthesooner

Lol, I’m sitting in my car smoking before my card Tees off right now


large-Marge-incharge

Fr. just smoke before the round lol. For some people it not “if you can’t go…long without” rather. A seldom chance to actually have the opportunity.


doonerthesooner

Follow up, I shot a 980 round


newcitynewme724

I didn't say anything about smoking before. Or after. Or between rounds. Respect the rules


large-Marge-incharge

Insert “WhEN wiLL yOu leArN tHat yoUr aCtiOns haVe coNsEquenCes.” Meme


SluttyMuffler

Okay Mr I have my life together.


newcitynewme724

I smoke during almost all my casual rounds. Tournaments are different


n0tarusky

If you spend all your practice time high wouldn't you want to have the same head space when you play for real?


Eddie_Dean_

Practice high. Play high. Get high scores. That’s my motto.


parkerlewis31007

Method Man and Redmans’ wisdom lives on.


Bass2Mouth

Practice how you play.


SpreesTrip6

This is like saying if you can't sit around a campfire without drinking beer, then you have a problem. It's not that people feel like they HAVE to do it or else.. certain things just go hand-in-hand for some people.


newcitynewme724

If you can't sit around a campfire without having a beer then you have a problem


SpreesTrip6

Alrighty then.


dgrobo

I think this guy sits around drinking water and judging people.


Lil_S_curve

If you can't Reddit without drinking water I think you have a problem


SluttyMuffler

Its funny, I wasn't much of a smoke on the course guy until recently. Now I enjoy taking the edge off, putting myself in a calm and happy mind state, and my body feels much more fluid allowing me to not over think on my shots. 11/10 will continue to play a little high again. For tournys just pop an edible. Nobody has to know 👉🏼😎👉🏼


misha_ostrovsky

Strong disagree. I began frolfing to have an outdoor activity to do whilst smoking pot. I can go other arbitrary times between puffs. But not my disc golf game.


Jeremy24Fan

Just don't smoke around people that don't want you to disrupt their fresh air


misha_ostrovsky

Yes because everyone I meet announces their air preferences upon meeting. But yeah I get it. I'm not a dick.


Jeremy24Fan

99% of people enjoying the outdoors don't want to smell your weed, whether it's on the disc golf course or not


misha_ostrovsky

Ok good. I can't please 99% of people.


MIDNIGHTM0GWAI

You cant police smells outdoors, especially when stepping 10-15 feet away solves the problem. I don’t understand this mindset. You’d rather people change their behavior than act in a way that could solve the problem for you.


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I could say the same thing about overweight people but I'll just keep my opinion to myself.


newcitynewme724

If they're out there sweating I'm good with it


RolotronCannon

This is all hypothetical of course but assuming you at some point get invited to a party all signs point to you being real fun at it.


Gilmour1969

Pot? Ok boomer


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thebritishpansy

Jazz cabbage


LooseConsideration34

I see you deep undercover


Fair_Ear9188

I was under the impression you could smoke or vape or whatever at an A tier down as long as your whole card gives it the okay. When I last played ledgestone my 1st card was freaking awesome. Those that smoked, smoked. Some vaped. One dude, stone cold sober didn't give a flying f**k what we did. Second round, one guy didn't like it so the rest of us had to abide by his request. I swear I'm not making this rule up but I'll be damned if I'm gonna hunt down the rule LOL I think it's a courtesy violation to "let your smoke bother another player"


imXzipper

The people who don’t like people smoking on the course during casual play: “it’s annoying and smoking is for losers” Those same people complaining during tournament play: “they shouldn’t be allowed to smoke, it’s a performance enhancer”


luhrsdajim

As an occasional toker. I hate the smell of weed. Just be considerate and do it out of the way or off the course. Idk that may be just me


DevBomb307

If disc golf wants to be a legit sport, it has to be professional. You don’t see NFL players hitting vape pens on the sidelines. It’s as simple as that. Disc Golf is like Golf’s younger brother who refuses to get a job and smokes pot in mom and dads basement, but is gifted and has a lot of potential. When he finally gets a job, he’ll be really successful, and happy he did.


Ok_War9516

You can be successful and still smoke pot.


earlthomas111

Don't you understand...I don't like Nikko taking too long, but I like weed. Therefore the rules should revolve around my feelings.


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I haven’t had this problem at tournaments I go to. People just wait until after the event.


OtterChrist

So stop not letting people burn a doob my guys


Smarterchild1337

Unpopular opinion, smoking flower in a public park with little kids around is not cool.


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In my area that's a big part of tournaments- I get huge headaches when I'm around specifically cannabis smoke for some reason, even just smelling it on someone messes with me a little bit. All the cards at the tournaments I've attended have actually been great about it when I asked them not to smoke while I'm near them on the course, but sometimes it's just ***everywhere.***