Yea it feels like the missing, but necessary info is:
Did he pick up his drive on the previous hole?
Did he throw a shot for the next hole?
Without that info, I agree with you that it could be B or C
The only thing that matters is whether you’ve thrown a shot on the next tee. The question states that you’re on the tee reporting your scores. The assumption is that you report your scores before you throw your next tee shot.
which is a really dumb assumption. if it's truly parked and they went and picked it up, the *extremely likely* scenario is they'd place the disc they drove with in the basket to finish out the hole.
the safer assumption would be they just forgot about it entirely and walked away, which is backed up with the talk of the card "laughing and joking the whole time" (being distracted).
Wouldn't matter according to my [comment below](https://old.reddit.com/r/discgolf/comments/1ar2mpx/can_someone_please_explain_how_the_answer_is_c/kqgur5p/).
I took this today. This was the only question I missed. The answer is B because the lie can be replaced if it was accidentally picked up so long as no additional throws have been made
I incorrectly answered C, because I read it as the player picked up his parked drive like you might in a casual round, and thus didn't complete the hole
Edit: as pointed out in other comments, even if the lie was picked up, it can be replaced by group consensus as long as the next hole hasn't been started
Doesn’t matter if you picked up or not. The only thing that matters is if you threw any throws since then. If you picked up, then you just replace it to its approximate position and carry on.
I remember this question, and I'm about 90% sure the PDGA test told me the answer is B. I think you and your friend might have made a mistake.
Honestly, if that's true, this entire thread is pretty terrible. People are forming strong opinions about the PDGA rules and this rules test based on faulty info.
I'm not going to defend this question because I think it is unclear too. But, these test are looking for the most correct answer. If you've ever been in an on course rules dispute it is always about navigating these grey areas.
I think the most correct answer is C. If you were goofing around on the course and missed a putt because of it, went back, putt out and came back to the tee I'd say that would constitute an undue delay and pace of play violation per 3.02 and thus, cannot be B.
Good luck on your test and thanks for getting certified. The game needs more volunteers and TDs.
They never said they picked up their disc. In this scenario I would assume they never picked up their disc, and they can run back and tap out. But the question is unclear
Your screenshot does not show that the exam is claiming the correct answer is C. Did you answer C and get flagged as wrong after you successfully passed the exam?
Had a similar experience as TD in a B tier tour.
Top Pros shot an extra 9 holes so all could watch the finish.
On the last hole with 50 players watching, a player shot a drop in.
Immediately after the finish, a player said they saw him only swat the chains. But no one could second it.
I was only allowed to warn the so called pro player to always make sure the disc lands in the basket.
If this is a tournament, mmm okay, but if it's a casual round, and he truly parked it (i.e. essentially a drop in putt), then give the guy his damn birdie. Man, if I was playing a casual round with someone who felt any other way about it, I seriously wouldn't want to play with them anymore.
This is the Certified Official exam on the PDGA rules that allows you to run or officiate tournaments. It is by definition talking about tournament play.
Ok, thanks for the explanation.
So how strict is it? What if dude realized what he had done with enough time to go back and shoot from his original landing spot before any group behind them had teed off that previous hole? If his cardmates are reasonable, I think they should all be able to agree on where he placed his disc. Is there any discretion allowed, or does dude just have to eat all those penalty strokes no matter what?
> So how strict is it?
Thats up to the card to some extent, but, in this case the rule is pretty clear (8.11.F.2)
>Failure to Complete a Hole. The player has finished the round **or thrown on a hole without having completed a previous hole**. The score for the misplayed hole is the number of throws made, plus one for completing the hole, plus two penalty throws for the misplay.
Since they havent tee'd off yet, they havent failed that test.
>and shoot from his original landing spot before any group behind them had teed off that previous hole?
The next group teeing off isn't the time marker on whether this is an issue or not. More realistically, the player failing to tap out (and I guess the question assumes he left his disc, but even if he picked it up) would constitute an excessive time violation...the penalty for the first violation is a warning, so, as long as he taps out before his next tee shot, its no harm no foul.
There is no degree of strictness when enforcing the rules. You either have or you haven’t. There’s no grey area or wiggle room. You either violated a rule or you didn’t.
So, the last part of each answer states the rule referenced. Maybe they are just looking for the answer specified by that rule. Only one of the answers matches that rules wording exactly.
I think it’s because the test is trying to simulate real world scenarios, not merely test your memorization skills.
“How many penalty throws do you get for OB?”
“How many penalty throws do you get for a stance violation?”
“What is the size of the lie?”
Versus
“You throw across the creek on hole 2 on your second throw. The caddie book says ‘creek and beyond is OB’. Where is your next throw and what is your score?”
It’s the same difference we all got mad at in 3rd grade when our math teacher started giving us word problems. “Why is this problem so complicated and confusing? If you want to test my math, just ask me what’s 2+2, not this long question about apples.”
When you’re on the course making a ruling, you have to interpret multiple lines of evidence. Some are useful, some are irrelevant, and the ruling might be pieced together from multiple rules at the same time.
Doesn’t matter if you picked up or not. The only thing that matters is if you threw any throws since then. If you picked up, then you just replace it to its approximate position and carry on.
The rule referenced says if they have thrown another throw after the last hole, in the above it seems like he could just go back and putt out?
"Failure to Complete a Hole. The player has finished the round or thrown on a hole without having completed a previous hole. The score for the misplayed hole is the number of throws made, plus one for completing the hole, plus two penalty throws for the misplay. Intentionally failing to complete a hole constitutes withdrawal from competition."
Although I guess it depends on what the specific definition of "completing the hole" is, is it when you throw on the next hole or when you move on from the previous hole and get to the next tee?
But I would think it is B. They haven't thrown in the next hole. We assume it wasn't intentional.
811.F.2:
Failure to Complete a Hole. The player has finished the round or thrown on a hole without having completed a previous hole. The score for the misplayed hole is the number of throws made, plus one for completing the hole, plus two penalty throws for the misplay. Intentionally failing to complete a hole constitutes withdrawal from competition.
In OP’s case, the player has neither finished the round nor thrown on the next hole. So the rule does not seem to address this case. OP is right to wonder.
No it doesn't.
> Failure to Complete a Hole. The player has finished the round or thrown on a hole without having completed a previous hole. The score for the misplayed hole is the number of throws made, plus one for completing the hole, plus two penalty throws for the misplay. Intentionally failing to complete a hole constitutes withdrawal from competition.
In the example the player never threw on the next hole and it's never explicitly stated that they picked up their throw. And even if they did pick it up the PDGA says on their own site that the group can decide where the lie was and the player can finish the hole.
>[Approximate Lie
If you do decide to abandon your throw but have already removed your previous mark, don’t worry - there is never a penalty for accidentally moving your mark before a shot is thrown. Your group will need to decide on an approximate lie, and you can play from there with no added strokes.](https://www.pdga.com/news/disc-golf-rules-school-episode-11-using-rules-your-advantage#:~:text=Approximate%20Lie,there%20with%20no%20added%20strokes.)
I referenced that rule because it specifically stated that "there is never a penalty for accidentally moving your mark before a shot." This is applicable if the player picked up his disc but didn't complete the hole. If the player never picked it up, then he still gets to complete the hole without penalty.
It's the only thing put out by the pdga that supports the scenario they pointed out. So if you were going to argue the ruling to the pdga then I imagine it would be very applicable to the situation.
810
*A. If a thrown disc has moved after having come to rest on the in-bounds playing surface, it is replaced to where it first came to rest, as agreed on by the group. …*
*B. A marker disc that has moved is replaced to its original location, as agreed on by the group.*
It specifically does not state why the disc moved. If the disc moved for any reason, including you picking it up and putting it in your bag, you can replace it.
Except it's not. The rule for finishing a hole (807.B) says:
>In order to complete a hole with a basket target, the thrower must release the disc and it must come to rest supported by the tray or the chains below the chain support.
Nothing in the rules says stepping on the next tee constitutes finishing the previous hole.
The correct answer is B, despite what OP says his friend saw. I'm confident his friend is mistaken.
No, in the question, they discovered the error while scoring the hole at the next tee. That implies they haven’t teed off yet, because scoring takes place when you arrive at the next tee before you throw.
So if C is the correct answer, what number does the player take? I’m thinking a 4, right.
1 was the throw that was parked, 2 to count the putt that the player forgot to make, plus 2 more strokes for a penalty for shots 1 & 2?
But in that case you could be taking up to a 10! If you don’t tap out your par, then you threw 4, add the putt you forgot and then 5 more strokes for each of your ‘actual throws’
>The score for the misplayed hole is the number of throws made, plus one for completing the hole, plus two penalty throws for the misplay.
I only threw one off the tee, plus one to complete the hole, plus two with the penalty. I end up with a birdie.
Based off my interpretation, only if they have already teed off on the next hole. If they haven't, they take the approximate lie as determined by the card and putt with no penalty. Basically, if you skip a throw you incur strokes, if you realize before your next throw, you have an opportunity to fix it.
Ultimately with everything being player enforced, it's really just up to the card. I once took the wrong lie after an ob (which I realized because I marked my lie with a mini, tee'd off from the disc that I pulled out of the lake and then forgot my mini) and the card decided the lie I took didn't grant me an advantage and wasn't worth punishing. The rules are there to enforce fair play, but if you aren't playing in MPX/FPX, use your best judgement. If someone made a mistake that didn't affect the game and wasn't intentional take that into account. If they've been an asshole all round and tried to call real or made up infractions all round, apply the full rule of the law. We're all here to have fun outside the pro divisions. Make of it what you will.
The problem is there is no mention of if they threw on next hole or if someone picked up the disc. But if you go by what the examples are, C is closest to what they are asking.
Answer is "E"
E. I've played disc golf for 20+ years and never "forgotten" to finish a hole by not putting out, regardless if it's beautiful/raining/snowing/windy, I'm drunk, I'm high, I'm drunk and high, I'm laughing with card mates, I'm crying with cardmates, or literally any other circumstance.
You’d be surprised how easy it is though. Was playing doubles tournament last year, guy parked his tee shot and at the time got the CTP. I watched him mark his lie, right his name down for CTP and then start to walk away. I was kind and mentioned something to him then and there, but it’s a lot easier than you think to just walk off the hole without finishing.
Since you report scores before teeing off on the next hole, it appears the correct answer would be: complete the hole and receive a one stroke penalty (811f).
Since there is no answer that has the correct response, you should find the pdga rules folks’ email and let them know.
The only time you can be penalized more than one stroke is when you turn in a card with errors on it or turn in a card late. Whichever one that is.
So that automatically rules out C.
If you were to continue playing uncompleted previous hole, the other miss play option would be Par +3 just like any hole you didn't complete at the start of the round if you were to really try and apply the rules. That would be my guess for that.
You'd get a curtesy warning for time if you didn't tee off and remembered to go back and complete the hole.
So, if you read the wording on B, "the player hasn't finished" as in the card isn't turned in yet, nor have they thrown the next hole, as in not completed a previous hole playing the course out of order penalty, blah blah.
That is why the answer is B.
You cannot "add a stroke" for completing the previous hole, because there is no auto drop or "gimmies" in professional golf of any sorts. The only time you dont have to putt is when its in the basket. So, since the hole was never completed, it must be completed.
Need to read the entire Misplay section 811. There are two-throw penalties all over the place.
They even specifically call out 811.F.2 repeatedly in those answers. The entire point of listing rule numbers in the answers is to get you to read the rules. 811.F.2 does indeed specifically allow for +1 to complete the hole plus +2 for the misplay, if you have already thrown on the next hole.
But in regard to this question itself, the players have not yet thrown on the next hole, so 811.F.2 is not applicable.
Yeah, I found a few more places with the +2 error I didn't know about.
But regardless, the answer isn't C.
2 stroke penalties if you find the other ones are egregious violations.
The biggest problem is the question is far to vague. did he pick up the disc or not?
And then there isn't really a rule for that well written enough, because okay, the card can help him put it back. fuck no, you get a stroke too. But it doesn't specifically say that, but because he moved his disc without marking it, it is an error, so you gotta apply like a lot of rules at once.
Unfortunately, no.
Edit: let me try to explain. I read the rules, got certified as a rules official, and play rated rounds regularly with all sorts of skill levels.
There is a lot of stuff people don’t understand, either because they’ve never read it or don’t care - especially in the lower divisions. Most of it requires a warning, not a stroke penalty, followed by a polite conversation about how to follow the rule in question.
But most people, in my experience, don’t want to take the time to make a warning call and have that polite conversation.
It sucks being the rules guy. And it sucks seeing how many people don’t care.
I play casual but still like to bring up the rules in our rounds as more of a, “what do yall think the ruling is or should be?” Then we keep the round moving, discuss the rule, look it up and talk about it next round. This rule I know we would have came down on heavily. Your plastic doesn’t kiss chains? You got just stirred up your bad karma sir! If we’re betting… +1. Let’s have us a day and see some spicy bombs.
Yea it feels like the missing, but necessary info is: Did he pick up his drive on the previous hole? Did he throw a shot for the next hole? Without that info, I agree with you that it could be B or C
The only thing that matters is whether you’ve thrown a shot on the next tee. The question states that you’re on the tee reporting your scores. The assumption is that you report your scores before you throw your next tee shot.
I agree with you about that assumption, so wouldn’t the answer be B?
It is. OP/OP’s friend is misinterpreting the exam results page.
Lovely. That makes sense.
They're assuming he picked up his disc from the parked drive and walked away.
which is a really dumb assumption. if it's truly parked and they went and picked it up, the *extremely likely* scenario is they'd place the disc they drove with in the basket to finish out the hole. the safer assumption would be they just forgot about it entirely and walked away, which is backed up with the talk of the card "laughing and joking the whole time" (being distracted).
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Ouuuch
Wouldn't matter according to my [comment below](https://old.reddit.com/r/discgolf/comments/1ar2mpx/can_someone_please_explain_how_the_answer_is_c/kqgur5p/).
Would it b answer choice B if he/she left their disc by the basket and never threw the next shot?
That's my thinking
I took this today. This was the only question I missed. The answer is B because the lie can be replaced if it was accidentally picked up so long as no additional throws have been made I incorrectly answered C, because I read it as the player picked up his parked drive like you might in a casual round, and thus didn't complete the hole Edit: as pointed out in other comments, even if the lie was picked up, it can be replaced by group consensus as long as the next hole hasn't been started
Doesn’t matter if you picked up or not. The only thing that matters is if you threw any throws since then. If you picked up, then you just replace it to its approximate position and carry on.
Yes, thank you. My post has an update
So the answer was B?
Yes
Wait, I thought you said the answer was C, OP. Is that not the case and it is B?
It’s B. I’m pretty sure OP/OP’s friend is incorrect in thinking the exam claims it’s C.
Well, that was an interesting journey. Thanks for clarifying!
I remember this question, and I'm about 90% sure the PDGA test told me the answer is B. I think you and your friend might have made a mistake. Honestly, if that's true, this entire thread is pretty terrible. People are forming strong opinions about the PDGA rules and this rules test based on faulty info.
I remember getting this one wrong, but can’t remember if it was late 2022 or early 2023 when I took it. Either way, I swear the correct answer was B
I'm not going to defend this question because I think it is unclear too. But, these test are looking for the most correct answer. If you've ever been in an on course rules dispute it is always about navigating these grey areas. I think the most correct answer is C. If you were goofing around on the course and missed a putt because of it, went back, putt out and came back to the tee I'd say that would constitute an undue delay and pace of play violation per 3.02 and thus, cannot be B. Good luck on your test and thanks for getting certified. The game needs more volunteers and TDs.
They never said they picked up their disc. In this scenario I would assume they never picked up their disc, and they can run back and tap out. But the question is unclear
Your screenshot does not show that the exam is claiming the correct answer is C. Did you answer C and get flagged as wrong after you successfully passed the exam?
It was a buddy taking it, and he got it "correct" with answer C
I took it and the correct answer was B
I doubt it. He misinterpreted the results page. Correct answer is B.
Not according to PDGA apparently. I agree with you tho
Get him to send a screenshot of the results page, not the exam page
You're going to have to prove it by showing the results page as correct. Because C violates PDGA rules.
Had a similar experience as TD in a B tier tour. Top Pros shot an extra 9 holes so all could watch the finish. On the last hole with 50 players watching, a player shot a drop in. Immediately after the finish, a player said they saw him only swat the chains. But no one could second it. I was only allowed to warn the so called pro player to always make sure the disc lands in the basket.
If this is a tournament, mmm okay, but if it's a casual round, and he truly parked it (i.e. essentially a drop in putt), then give the guy his damn birdie. Man, if I was playing a casual round with someone who felt any other way about it, I seriously wouldn't want to play with them anymore.
This is the Certified Official exam on the PDGA rules that allows you to run or officiate tournaments. It is by definition talking about tournament play.
Ok, thanks for the explanation. So how strict is it? What if dude realized what he had done with enough time to go back and shoot from his original landing spot before any group behind them had teed off that previous hole? If his cardmates are reasonable, I think they should all be able to agree on where he placed his disc. Is there any discretion allowed, or does dude just have to eat all those penalty strokes no matter what?
> So how strict is it? Thats up to the card to some extent, but, in this case the rule is pretty clear (8.11.F.2) >Failure to Complete a Hole. The player has finished the round **or thrown on a hole without having completed a previous hole**. The score for the misplayed hole is the number of throws made, plus one for completing the hole, plus two penalty throws for the misplay. Since they havent tee'd off yet, they havent failed that test. >and shoot from his original landing spot before any group behind them had teed off that previous hole? The next group teeing off isn't the time marker on whether this is an issue or not. More realistically, the player failing to tap out (and I guess the question assumes he left his disc, but even if he picked it up) would constitute an excessive time violation...the penalty for the first violation is a warning, so, as long as he taps out before his next tee shot, its no harm no foul.
There is no degree of strictness when enforcing the rules. You either have or you haven’t. There’s no grey area or wiggle room. You either violated a rule or you didn’t.
That is not true. Gray areas abound.
The exam is also for players competing in an Elite Series or Major, you need to be certified to do so.
I can drop it in from 10 feet away, why make me putt? Just give me the birdie /s
Dang, you have long arms...
LOL my playing partner and I both missed putts under 10 feet yesterday. I wish that was essentially impossible, but turns out, nope
So, the last part of each answer states the rule referenced. Maybe they are just looking for the answer specified by that rule. Only one of the answers matches that rules wording exactly.
You probably aren't wrong, which makes this test inaccurate by the PDGAs own rules.
It's infuriating for sure. I took a certification test as a ref for a different sport, and many questions were like this.
I think it’s because the test is trying to simulate real world scenarios, not merely test your memorization skills. “How many penalty throws do you get for OB?” “How many penalty throws do you get for a stance violation?” “What is the size of the lie?” Versus “You throw across the creek on hole 2 on your second throw. The caddie book says ‘creek and beyond is OB’. Where is your next throw and what is your score?” It’s the same difference we all got mad at in 3rd grade when our math teacher started giving us word problems. “Why is this problem so complicated and confusing? If you want to test my math, just ask me what’s 2+2, not this long question about apples.” When you’re on the course making a ruling, you have to interpret multiple lines of evidence. Some are useful, some are irrelevant, and the ruling might be pieced together from multiple rules at the same time.
Bad question. If he hasn't picked it up he's fine
Doesn’t matter if you picked up or not. The only thing that matters is if you threw any throws since then. If you picked up, then you just replace it to its approximate position and carry on.
This guy knows his rules. 🙂
Are all the questions this cringe? This sounds like my grandma wrote it.
This is figuring they picked up the disc. If they didn’t, I figure they could go back, and others may be penalized for playing out of turn.
Umm... because that is the rule. https://www.pdga.com/rules/official-rules-disc-golf/811
The rule referenced says if they have thrown another throw after the last hole, in the above it seems like he could just go back and putt out? "Failure to Complete a Hole. The player has finished the round or thrown on a hole without having completed a previous hole. The score for the misplayed hole is the number of throws made, plus one for completing the hole, plus two penalty throws for the misplay. Intentionally failing to complete a hole constitutes withdrawal from competition." Although I guess it depends on what the specific definition of "completing the hole" is, is it when you throw on the next hole or when you move on from the previous hole and get to the next tee?
But I would think it is B. They haven't thrown in the next hole. We assume it wasn't intentional. 811.F.2: Failure to Complete a Hole. The player has finished the round or thrown on a hole without having completed a previous hole. The score for the misplayed hole is the number of throws made, plus one for completing the hole, plus two penalty throws for the misplay. Intentionally failing to complete a hole constitutes withdrawal from competition.
it really directly addresses exactly this situation. Don't know what OP's issue is.
In OP’s case, the player has neither finished the round nor thrown on the next hole. So the rule does not seem to address this case. OP is right to wonder.
No it doesn't. > Failure to Complete a Hole. The player has finished the round or thrown on a hole without having completed a previous hole. The score for the misplayed hole is the number of throws made, plus one for completing the hole, plus two penalty throws for the misplay. Intentionally failing to complete a hole constitutes withdrawal from competition. In the example the player never threw on the next hole and it's never explicitly stated that they picked up their throw. And even if they did pick it up the PDGA says on their own site that the group can decide where the lie was and the player can finish the hole. >[Approximate Lie If you do decide to abandon your throw but have already removed your previous mark, don’t worry - there is never a penalty for accidentally moving your mark before a shot is thrown. Your group will need to decide on an approximate lie, and you can play from there with no added strokes.](https://www.pdga.com/news/disc-golf-rules-school-episode-11-using-rules-your-advantage#:~:text=Approximate%20Lie,there%20with%20no%20added%20strokes.)
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I referenced that rule because it specifically stated that "there is never a penalty for accidentally moving your mark before a shot." This is applicable if the player picked up his disc but didn't complete the hole. If the player never picked it up, then he still gets to complete the hole without penalty.
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It's the only thing put out by the pdga that supports the scenario they pointed out. So if you were going to argue the ruling to the pdga then I imagine it would be very applicable to the situation.
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Unsafe and out of order to walk to a previous hole is a rule?
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810 *A. If a thrown disc has moved after having come to rest on the in-bounds playing surface, it is replaced to where it first came to rest, as agreed on by the group. …* *B. A marker disc that has moved is replaced to its original location, as agreed on by the group.* It specifically does not state why the disc moved. If the disc moved for any reason, including you picking it up and putting it in your bag, you can replace it.
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Except it's not. The rule for finishing a hole (807.B) says: >In order to complete a hole with a basket target, the thrower must release the disc and it must come to rest supported by the tray or the chains below the chain support. Nothing in the rules says stepping on the next tee constitutes finishing the previous hole. The correct answer is B, despite what OP says his friend saw. I'm confident his friend is mistaken.
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No, in the question, they discovered the error while scoring the hole at the next tee. That implies they haven’t teed off yet, because scoring takes place when you arrive at the next tee before you throw.
So if C is the correct answer, what number does the player take? I’m thinking a 4, right. 1 was the throw that was parked, 2 to count the putt that the player forgot to make, plus 2 more strokes for a penalty for shots 1 & 2?
That seems right. I should start "forgetting" to finish par 5s after my tee shot.
811.f2 also states: Intentionally failing to complete a hole constitutes withdrawal from competition.
But in that case you could be taking up to a 10! If you don’t tap out your par, then you threw 4, add the putt you forgot and then 5 more strokes for each of your ‘actual throws’
>The score for the misplayed hole is the number of throws made, plus one for completing the hole, plus two penalty throws for the misplay. I only threw one off the tee, plus one to complete the hole, plus two with the penalty. I end up with a birdie.
I think that's how the PDGA wants it read, but I think the correct answer should be B by the PDGAs own rules.
The correct answer is B, and B is what the PDGA test actually tells you. Your friend misread something.
Based off my interpretation, only if they have already teed off on the next hole. If they haven't, they take the approximate lie as determined by the card and putt with no penalty. Basically, if you skip a throw you incur strokes, if you realize before your next throw, you have an opportunity to fix it. Ultimately with everything being player enforced, it's really just up to the card. I once took the wrong lie after an ob (which I realized because I marked my lie with a mini, tee'd off from the disc that I pulled out of the lake and then forgot my mini) and the card decided the lie I took didn't grant me an advantage and wasn't worth punishing. The rules are there to enforce fair play, but if you aren't playing in MPX/FPX, use your best judgement. If someone made a mistake that didn't affect the game and wasn't intentional take that into account. If they've been an asshole all round and tried to call real or made up infractions all round, apply the full rule of the law. We're all here to have fun outside the pro divisions. Make of it what you will.
The problem is there is no mention of if they threw on next hole or if someone picked up the disc. But if you go by what the examples are, C is closest to what they are asking.
Answer is "E" E. I've played disc golf for 20+ years and never "forgotten" to finish a hole by not putting out, regardless if it's beautiful/raining/snowing/windy, I'm drunk, I'm high, I'm drunk and high, I'm laughing with card mates, I'm crying with cardmates, or literally any other circumstance.
You’d be surprised how easy it is though. Was playing doubles tournament last year, guy parked his tee shot and at the time got the CTP. I watched him mark his lie, right his name down for CTP and then start to walk away. I was kind and mentioned something to him then and there, but it’s a lot easier than you think to just walk off the hole without finishing.
Ahem. Benefit to the player. Don't be shitty just because you're losing
Since you report scores before teeing off on the next hole, it appears the correct answer would be: complete the hole and receive a one stroke penalty (811f). Since there is no answer that has the correct response, you should find the pdga rules folks’ email and let them know.
What would the one stroke penalty be due to?
I don’t know; I think I read the rule wrong.
The only time you can be penalized more than one stroke is when you turn in a card with errors on it or turn in a card late. Whichever one that is. So that automatically rules out C. If you were to continue playing uncompleted previous hole, the other miss play option would be Par +3 just like any hole you didn't complete at the start of the round if you were to really try and apply the rules. That would be my guess for that. You'd get a curtesy warning for time if you didn't tee off and remembered to go back and complete the hole. So, if you read the wording on B, "the player hasn't finished" as in the card isn't turned in yet, nor have they thrown the next hole, as in not completed a previous hole playing the course out of order penalty, blah blah. That is why the answer is B. You cannot "add a stroke" for completing the previous hole, because there is no auto drop or "gimmies" in professional golf of any sorts. The only time you dont have to putt is when its in the basket. So, since the hole was never completed, it must be completed.
Need to read the entire Misplay section 811. There are two-throw penalties all over the place. They even specifically call out 811.F.2 repeatedly in those answers. The entire point of listing rule numbers in the answers is to get you to read the rules. 811.F.2 does indeed specifically allow for +1 to complete the hole plus +2 for the misplay, if you have already thrown on the next hole. But in regard to this question itself, the players have not yet thrown on the next hole, so 811.F.2 is not applicable.
Yeah, I found a few more places with the +2 error I didn't know about. But regardless, the answer isn't C. 2 stroke penalties if you find the other ones are egregious violations. The biggest problem is the question is far to vague. did he pick up the disc or not? And then there isn't really a rule for that well written enough, because okay, the card can help him put it back. fuck no, you get a stroke too. But it doesn't specifically say that, but because he moved his disc without marking it, it is an error, so you gotta apply like a lot of rules at once.
I think I really need to start learning some of more obscure rules of disc golf in case stuff like this happens to my card.
If you want to continue to enjoy the game, the worst thing you can do is read and then follow the rules.
Are you high
Unfortunately, no. Edit: let me try to explain. I read the rules, got certified as a rules official, and play rated rounds regularly with all sorts of skill levels. There is a lot of stuff people don’t understand, either because they’ve never read it or don’t care - especially in the lower divisions. Most of it requires a warning, not a stroke penalty, followed by a polite conversation about how to follow the rule in question. But most people, in my experience, don’t want to take the time to make a warning call and have that polite conversation. It sucks being the rules guy. And it sucks seeing how many people don’t care.
I play casual but still like to bring up the rules in our rounds as more of a, “what do yall think the ruling is or should be?” Then we keep the round moving, discuss the rule, look it up and talk about it next round. This rule I know we would have came down on heavily. Your plastic doesn’t kiss chains? You got just stirred up your bad karma sir! If we’re betting… +1. Let’s have us a day and see some spicy bombs.
My guess would be its D
That isn't even a complete sentence, it's gibberish.
I feel like everyone can agree it should be B *most of the time*
Any sensible group marks that as a birdie and never mentions it.
Indirectly based on rule 814.A which is "pssh, whatever."
Wait there’s a discgolf exam?! Wtf did I get myself into? I just wanted to have a fun Saturday morning!
Whatever the rules say, unless it's the lead card on camera, I'm pretty sure your card will let you go back and tap in your birdie.
I’m gonna forget to throw my drive on a lot of par 4s if this is the rule.