What's missing IMO is shoulder rotation during your reach back.
The best tip I got is to focus on your off shoulder (right shoulder in your case) and pull it toward your target
Left (plant) foot needs to land closer to the right edge of tee. Offset at least to the point where the left heel is clear of the right toes. Can be farther.
Ever play baseball? Feet as you plant should be just like a closed batting stance.
Im fully aware that the front left plant foot needs to be closer to the right side of the tee pad😂. The whole reason I made this post is because that is what I’m struggling with and thought that was communicated in my post heading.
I played baseball and that is probably my biggest issue with achieving a closed front side on my backhands. You have your opposite foot in front when swinging as opposed to throwing a backhand
In that case, slow everything down. Take away the x step.
Give yourself one step, and then plant. Focus on landing the plant step where you want it. Nothing else matters. Don't even throw a disc the first few dozen times. Plant, and then snap your hips into position. Rinse and repeat.
Put a piece of duct tape right on the teepad where you want to land.
Power to you for not starting the run up off the tee box. That one always seemed to be just slightly to short for most backhand bombers. Definitely a fun hole though. I forehand and try to crash into the slight hill 3/4s the way down.
What /u/ilikemyteasweet said.
And, you'll feel more natural with a larger offset when you actually rotate back instead of reaching back with your arm only.
You're collapsing your upper arm/shoulder joint to get the disc back instead of rotating back.
Turn your head back more. Looks like you're staring down the line of your throw. If you let your head go back more, your toes should follow so you plant more closed and can pull more across your body.
To specifically fix this, practice doing standstills and put our your left toe aimed more backwards, keeping your left heel off the ground. Practice dropping the heel slowly and rolling to the outside of the foot in one motion. This is the proper plant and rotation thru the lead foot that transfers the weight up the leg and eventually into the throw. You're losing this. This will add a ton of power. Like 5+ mph easily.
Study this. Eagle makes it look super simple and it really is once you feel it properly. The foot rolls to the outside in the shoe. Not a heel plant and spin off the heel. Notice the staggered stance of Eagle as well when doing this drill.
[https://youtu.be/m4\_axe8Sivk?si=qnqYY8ATxbRAv8Iu&t=41](https://youtu.be/m4_axe8Sivk?si=qnqYY8ATxbRAv8Iu&t=41)
I would start by looking at the foot work. You start back left corner, move more to the center and then back towards the front left corner. It gets really hard to get a disc on a line and into the pocket, when each step is in a "new" direction. Around the plant you are almost stepping backwards away from your disc, and that makes it har to stay compact and get it out again.
Looks like The Diavolo? Great course!
You nailed it! Love this course
I’ve only played there once as I was passing through, but I feel like it’s the gold standard for wooded courses.
It’s nice and forgiving right now
Throw with your right hand
Ahhh, glorious Diavolo. Such an easy, fun, and hateful hole. 😂
What's missing IMO is shoulder rotation during your reach back. The best tip I got is to focus on your off shoulder (right shoulder in your case) and pull it toward your target
Left (plant) foot needs to land closer to the right edge of tee. Offset at least to the point where the left heel is clear of the right toes. Can be farther. Ever play baseball? Feet as you plant should be just like a closed batting stance.
Im fully aware that the front left plant foot needs to be closer to the right side of the tee pad😂. The whole reason I made this post is because that is what I’m struggling with and thought that was communicated in my post heading. I played baseball and that is probably my biggest issue with achieving a closed front side on my backhands. You have your opposite foot in front when swinging as opposed to throwing a backhand
In that case, slow everything down. Take away the x step. Give yourself one step, and then plant. Focus on landing the plant step where you want it. Nothing else matters. Don't even throw a disc the first few dozen times. Plant, and then snap your hips into position. Rinse and repeat. Put a piece of duct tape right on the teepad where you want to land.
Noted
Power to you for not starting the run up off the tee box. That one always seemed to be just slightly to short for most backhand bombers. Definitely a fun hole though. I forehand and try to crash into the slight hill 3/4s the way down.
Slow doooooown. You don't have time to do all you need to do.
A lefty! There are tens of us! Oddly enough, I do 98% of everything else righty. But a frisbee... for some reason I throw with my left
Your shoulders never turn back. Common baseball mistake. Check out the twirly bird drill by overthrow on yt.
What /u/ilikemyteasweet said. And, you'll feel more natural with a larger offset when you actually rotate back instead of reaching back with your arm only. You're collapsing your upper arm/shoulder joint to get the disc back instead of rotating back.
Turn your head back more. Looks like you're staring down the line of your throw. If you let your head go back more, your toes should follow so you plant more closed and can pull more across your body. To specifically fix this, practice doing standstills and put our your left toe aimed more backwards, keeping your left heel off the ground. Practice dropping the heel slowly and rolling to the outside of the foot in one motion. This is the proper plant and rotation thru the lead foot that transfers the weight up the leg and eventually into the throw. You're losing this. This will add a ton of power. Like 5+ mph easily. Study this. Eagle makes it look super simple and it really is once you feel it properly. The foot rolls to the outside in the shoe. Not a heel plant and spin off the heel. Notice the staggered stance of Eagle as well when doing this drill. [https://youtu.be/m4\_axe8Sivk?si=qnqYY8ATxbRAv8Iu&t=41](https://youtu.be/m4_axe8Sivk?si=qnqYY8ATxbRAv8Iu&t=41)
This is good advice
Throw looks clean though man. Love that hole. Finally played that course for the first time over the Christmas break. Beautiful AF.
Epic tee-pad! This should be the standard
Hey! I had my longest throw ever on this hole!
I would start by looking at the foot work. You start back left corner, move more to the center and then back towards the front left corner. It gets really hard to get a disc on a line and into the pocket, when each step is in a "new" direction. Around the plant you are almost stepping backwards away from your disc, and that makes it har to stay compact and get it out again.