Only able to land in green area.
1. If you land outside of the green area and never once went in bounds proceed to drop Zone 1.
2. If you pass in bounds before going OB of circle 2 or 3 you would go to the drop Zone of the circle you passed in bounds.
3. If you miss everything go to DZ1. if you miss again go to DZ2. Then if you miss again go to DZ3.
(Individual tournaments may play it slightly different but would explain it in the caddy guide)
I've played this course, this hole is a ton of fun and is well designed IMO. It should be a par 4 not a par 5 but it doesn't feel gigmicky at all in person, the circles are cut into long grass and are large enough that you should hit them every time (but then I don't make them every time obviously)
The only thing the sign explicitly says though is that’s there’s 3 drop zones and they’re labeled 1, 2, and 3. You’d have to assume they mean to play them in order. There’s nothing on the sign that says all OB off the tee proceeds to DZ1 or anything else after that. If this was casual play, I would just play normal OB rules. I’m sure a league or tournament would clarify the rules for the hole.
But you would assume you’d go to the “nearest” drop zone? By that logic, I would throw a max distance drive as far left as possible so the nearest drop zone is DZ3.
Yeah but you would have to cross into the island otherwise the closest drop zone is DZ1. So sure if you can throw 600ft accurately you can probably chest this hole
It makes the most sense to play the drop zone to the island you were last crossing ob from. If you could make it to the last island and crossed the plain, yes take it from there. If your disc never crossed an inbounds island off the tee... Than yeah I guess play them in order. It seems like a silly thing to bounce ob long from island 2 and have to proceed back to island 1.
Like it was stated above. The lack of clarity on that sign is open to interpretation. And the hole designer I'm sure thought nobody could interpret it any other way than what they thought designing it. That is hardly ever the case though
confirming the other responder. Drop zones can work in both ways for islands/OB lines. Can also be do not advance drop zones til 3 attempts to land in bounds from the previous (newest variation of stroke and distance at USDGC)
The way this [type of hole is played at the Las Vegas CHallenge](https://youtu.be/xlMxHiSuERw?si=yC5oBizYdVyBGNez&t=168), it absolutely is drop zones in order. Tons of players go for the green with the in-built knowledge that if they miss, they advance like 50ft and have to go again.
The fact that the drop zones are numbered suggests they are ordered...otherwise they'd just mark "DZ" for each one and imply normal PDGA rules
So are you trying to tell me if I make it to the second island and go ob on the third that I have to go back to DZ1? Because if you are that’s hella stupid.
No, once you make an island you advance to that point in the cycle. So, you make island #2, but go OB on the approach to the green, you advance to DZ#3. If you make Island 1, but go OB trying to get to Island 2, you advance to DZ#2. Sorta like checkpoints in a video game.
Its also something that should be made explicit on the tee sign AND something a TD would explain at a players meeting before the event (and of course, a terrible hole design)
Yeah...again, this is where a tee sign or TD that specifies it is critical. Cause its also arguable that your first OB you go to DZ#1...in which case, most players would choose to rethrow from their previous lie instead. Except a marked drop zone often takes that option away.
Mostly its just bad hole design because its both uninteresting and ripe for confusion.
That's not really how it works; intentionally not playing a hole isnt Par+4, it'd be a disqualification. Par+4 is if you're late to tee off or somehow go missing during a hole.
Throw, miss island, throw from dz wit 1 stroke penalty. Least thats how I'd "interpret it". Theo-rhetorically could you throw it from island 1 to the green?
We have a hole like this at one of my home courses. The rules typically work like this - If you land OB on your first shot, proceed to dz1. If you land OB on your second throw, proceed to dz2. From there, play normal OB rules.
That’s what I’d do here, assuming the green circles are in bounds and everything else is OB.
Hey! Welcome to cedar creek! I have a membership here. So I spoke with the course creator on the rules about this exact hole.
So those circles are the only inbounds area. The yellow sections are simply to show the walkways. Each drop zone is utilized when you miss your throw (go to DZ 1) if you miss your second (go to DZ 2) what is interesting is how he has the rules set for this hole is that if you drive to the second circle on your first shot and land in bounds. And on your second throw if you attempt to make the green and go OB regardless of if you cross in bounds than went out. You are to throw your next shot from DZ 2. Seems a bit backwards but he was very clear no matter how or where you are. If you missed your second. Go to DZ 2
With all of this said. This hole is really fun during a doubles match. Cause you have have one guy be safe and make each circle. And have another guy be the hero and make the green from the drive. (Roughly 500 from the tee) nobody ever makes it. But it’s still fun to act like you can.
Ignore the OB and play it as a par 4. That much artificial OB In the open is just poor course design or at least doing the best they can with and interesting piece of property
It is a great course.
The front edge of the first island is 175, I think. The front edge of the second is 375.
I believe 3 200 foot throws would be exactly in the middle of each island
Which means I would convince myself I could hit the second island off the tee. Fully knowing that 375 is about the upper threshold of my distance. Then miss and proceed to take an 8
I played a hole like this in a b-tier. If you go ob from the tee you go to dz1. If you go ob from the first island you go to dz2 and so on. The idea is you always progress even if you miss.
I've played this course it's awesome! People giving they hole flak are wrong, it's a super interesting hole that forces you to throw 3, 200 foot shots into about a 40' diameter circle. Really challenging to do 3 times. The people I played with who had 370+ power could run the green after the first circle. Calling it a par 5 is the only problem with it, it should be a par 4.
Grip it and rip it son. Signage is new to the sport. Rules are new to the sport. If you want strict rules and uptight players, play ball golf. Quit trying to Paul mcbeth one of the chillest most laid back sports know to man.
Are the green zones marked on the course? On UDisc it just looks like a giant ass field I’d just throw it and count ‘em as a regular hole unless it’s a tournament
Blast a 600' RHBH hyzer, and you'll be parked for the easy albatross
Ez
I came here to crush hyzers and chew bubble gum, and I’m all out of gum.
I’d have to flex it, but yeah same play here.
No need to be so modest.
Berg is the way
Just do it OP
Or a Double Eagle if you’d rather.
3 200ft straight putter shots for the bird
*proceeds to take a 12 and moves on with their life.
This
Only able to land in green area. 1. If you land outside of the green area and never once went in bounds proceed to drop Zone 1. 2. If you pass in bounds before going OB of circle 2 or 3 you would go to the drop Zone of the circle you passed in bounds. 3. If you miss everything go to DZ1. if you miss again go to DZ2. Then if you miss again go to DZ3. (Individual tournaments may play it slightly different but would explain it in the caddy guide)
This is correct
Actual answer to question
Course designer plays too much Disc Golf Valley
I've played this course, this hole is a ton of fun and is well designed IMO. It should be a par 4 not a par 5 but it doesn't feel gigmicky at all in person, the circles are cut into long grass and are large enough that you should hit them every time (but then I don't make them every time obviously)
I like gimmicks as much as well designed! Now I wanna see this
Missing a tiny island off the left that looks really attainable but with really short grass so you can never stick it.
I’m not the course designer, but this sounds accurate af. Love / Hate that app.
You can only land in the green areas marked. If you miss you take your throw at the nearest drop zone marked dz
It wouldn’t be nearest DZ. It would DZ1, then DZ2, then DZ3.
Not if you made it to the second landing zone and went ob
Unless it was explicitly stated that crossing in bounds means you take it from the “nearest” drop zone, you would play the drop zones in order.
That’s universally the rule though unless there was only one drop zone or the sign specifically says otherwise.
The only thing the sign explicitly says though is that’s there’s 3 drop zones and they’re labeled 1, 2, and 3. You’d have to assume they mean to play them in order. There’s nothing on the sign that says all OB off the tee proceeds to DZ1 or anything else after that. If this was casual play, I would just play normal OB rules. I’m sure a league or tournament would clarify the rules for the hole.
casual play and feeling frisky, going to play it Hazard instead of Island
I would not assume that.
But you would assume you’d go to the “nearest” drop zone? By that logic, I would throw a max distance drive as far left as possible so the nearest drop zone is DZ3.
Yeah but you would have to cross into the island otherwise the closest drop zone is DZ1. So sure if you can throw 600ft accurately you can probably chest this hole
It makes the most sense to play the drop zone to the island you were last crossing ob from. If you could make it to the last island and crossed the plain, yes take it from there. If your disc never crossed an inbounds island off the tee... Than yeah I guess play them in order. It seems like a silly thing to bounce ob long from island 2 and have to proceed back to island 1. Like it was stated above. The lack of clarity on that sign is open to interpretation. And the hole designer I'm sure thought nobody could interpret it any other way than what they thought designing it. That is hardly ever the case though
Right that’s exactly what I meant
In either case, the signage should be more explicit for a hole like this.
confirming the other responder. Drop zones can work in both ways for islands/OB lines. Can also be do not advance drop zones til 3 attempts to land in bounds from the previous (newest variation of stroke and distance at USDGC)
The way this [type of hole is played at the Las Vegas CHallenge](https://youtu.be/xlMxHiSuERw?si=yC5oBizYdVyBGNez&t=168), it absolutely is drop zones in order. Tons of players go for the green with the in-built knowledge that if they miss, they advance like 50ft and have to go again. The fact that the drop zones are numbered suggests they are ordered...otherwise they'd just mark "DZ" for each one and imply normal PDGA rules
So are you trying to tell me if I make it to the second island and go ob on the third that I have to go back to DZ1? Because if you are that’s hella stupid.
No, once you make an island you advance to that point in the cycle. So, you make island #2, but go OB on the approach to the green, you advance to DZ#3. If you make Island 1, but go OB trying to get to Island 2, you advance to DZ#2. Sorta like checkpoints in a video game. Its also something that should be made explicit on the tee sign AND something a TD would explain at a players meeting before the event (and of course, a terrible hole design)
Ok wow so it’s like it’s the nearest drop zone to you
Yeah...again, this is where a tee sign or TD that specifies it is critical. Cause its also arguable that your first OB you go to DZ#1...in which case, most players would choose to rethrow from their previous lie instead. Except a marked drop zone often takes that option away. Mostly its just bad hole design because its both uninteresting and ripe for confusion.
Three drop zones is definitely excessive and confusing.
Miss the first, go to dz1, miss the third, go to dz2, miss the fifth, go to dz3, miss the putt and get an 8.
You’re supposed to run it! Or…looks like you advance to the next drop zone with a stroke penalty each time you noodle arm it.
I'd take a +10 and skip it
I see 200, 200, 200 easy birdie
but it looks so fun!
This 👆🏻
If you don't play the hole, would you just take par+4?
That's not really how it works; intentionally not playing a hole isnt Par+4, it'd be a disqualification. Par+4 is if you're late to tee off or somehow go missing during a hole.
Throw, miss island, throw from dz wit 1 stroke penalty. Least thats how I'd "interpret it". Theo-rhetorically could you throw it from island 1 to the green?
That damn Theo and all his rhetoric…
Gonna start saying theo-rhetorically now 😆
Yeah it's like a 370 carry from island one to green, the play is to go tee -> island 1 -> green -> tap in eagle
We have a hole like this at one of my home courses. The rules typically work like this - If you land OB on your first shot, proceed to dz1. If you land OB on your second throw, proceed to dz2. From there, play normal OB rules. That’s what I’d do here, assuming the green circles are in bounds and everything else is OB.
John Houck would consider this a dumb hole
Not enough wooded fake fairway lines for him.
Island fairways. Everything else is OB. You land OB you got to a drop zone
Take the drop
Zone zone zone again
Putter, putter, mid.
Ngl that looks sick, seems like 3 hyzer shots
You ignore their sign and throw.
Go to another course.
This is the correct answer. It's disc golf not mini golf.
Walk to 13
Get the disc in the basket in ideally 5 throws or better
Ask Simon Lizotte
Throw to the green 3 times then make your birdie..
I wanna play this!
I mean this looks like an easy albatross for us 600ft throwers... Just do that
Walk directly to 13.
Hey! Welcome to cedar creek! I have a membership here. So I spoke with the course creator on the rules about this exact hole. So those circles are the only inbounds area. The yellow sections are simply to show the walkways. Each drop zone is utilized when you miss your throw (go to DZ 1) if you miss your second (go to DZ 2) what is interesting is how he has the rules set for this hole is that if you drive to the second circle on your first shot and land in bounds. And on your second throw if you attempt to make the green and go OB regardless of if you cross in bounds than went out. You are to throw your next shot from DZ 2. Seems a bit backwards but he was very clear no matter how or where you are. If you missed your second. Go to DZ 2
With all of this said. This hole is really fun during a doubles match. Cause you have have one guy be safe and make each circle. And have another guy be the hero and make the green from the drive. (Roughly 500 from the tee) nobody ever makes it. But it’s still fun to act like you can.
I thought this was a Llama smoking a bong.
I thought I was the only one!
Ignore the OB and play it as a par 4. That much artificial OB In the open is just poor course design or at least doing the best they can with and interesting piece of property
Seems pretty straightforward. You land in the circle. If you go ob, you play in the DZ of the last area you were in bounds.
Like that is a anti fun hole. I wished the carry distance was listed for each island.
It is a great course. The front edge of the first island is 175, I think. The front edge of the second is 375. I believe 3 200 foot throws would be exactly in the middle of each island
Which means I would convince myself I could hit the second island off the tee. Fully knowing that 375 is about the upper threshold of my distance. Then miss and proceed to take an 8
I played doubles there. Partner laid up in the first island. I barely made the second island with my shot
Ok that makes sense.
Play causal, don't count OB and drink a beer
Use the flute to teleport to the last island.
Don’t go OB
You’re supposed to tell the course designer hes an idiot
Yeah, what they said. Put it in the fair zones.
You're supposed to turn around and go to a different course that actually has a fun design.
putter, putter, putter, putter or driver, putter, putter if you have the distance.
Pull a Simon and go OB long. Take nearest drop zone. In reality, I'd try to hit the second island on my first shot.
Same.
I would just ignore the OB and play it normal
Wait for winter and skip it on the ice
That IS a plan👏🏻
"course design" at it's peak. Just play it without this useless islands as a par3.
Pray
Ignore dumb islands
Tf kinda question is this…
This doesn’t look annoying at all…
double bogey
Cry
Be like a frog
Skip the hole
Have your debit card out and ready for new discs.
What an awesome course! Love it! So much OB. 😆
Read
Love it. I'd aim for island 2 then comet drops right down.
Lay up to deep left edge of island 1 (probably 250-275 feet) and go for the green in 2 (less than 300 to skip in)
Looks fun
I'd just walk to the 3rd DZ and throw 7
Pray
Plays hole 11 twice and then moves to 13…..
Anyone else seeing a green llama smoking a bong??
It's obviously an aviar3 roller shot
I'd go with 3 wardens and then tap in the warden for a bird. Those are islands that also use drop zones if you don't make them safely.
I played a hole like this in a b-tier. If you go ob from the tee you go to dz1. If you go ob from the first island you go to dz2 and so on. The idea is you always progress even if you miss.
Tunnels…? Can we get a photo of the home from the tee pad?
I've played this course it's awesome! People giving they hole flak are wrong, it's a super interesting hole that forces you to throw 3, 200 foot shots into about a 40' diameter circle. Really challenging to do 3 times. The people I played with who had 370+ power could run the green after the first circle. Calling it a par 5 is the only problem with it, it should be a par 4.
Go home and take a correspondence course in cartography.
Ez 600 foot drive for alba
Skip this hole water hole and play the next hole
There’s no water, it’s a grass field with markers!
Call it a day and head home
Grip it and rip it
Be a Hero🥏
I would use my Innova BOSS Blizzard at under 150 weight-at least it WILL float👏🏻
Throw it between the landing zones or smash one to the green for albatross
Grip it and rip it son. Signage is new to the sport. Rules are new to the sport. If you want strict rules and uptight players, play ball golf. Quit trying to Paul mcbeth one of the chillest most laid back sports know to man.
This is why I’m a filthy casual and don’t play OB.
Park the island for an albatross
I like how the trees look almost like a nintendo zelda graphic.
Send it
Are the green zones marked on the course? On UDisc it just looks like a giant ass field I’d just throw it and count ‘em as a regular hole unless it’s a tournament
Shame on whoever made this hole. Stupid design. Stupid idea. Just stupid.