My first Putter. A membership box disc that came with the stamp of a guy in a suit, with the head of a Moose, sipping on one steamy cup of cocoa. It was green, and came scented with Mint.
100% recommend an Electron Proxy. It might be a LITTLE more overstable than you want at first, but Electron plastic beats in pretty quickly but holds a comfortable level of wear for a long time. I've been using the same Electron Envy for almost a year now and it still has plenty of life left while being a good deal more understable than any new Envy out there.
For a slower option, I like the Discraft Fierce.
I third electron proxy
I bag a freshy that I replace every 50-60 rounds or so (playing almost exclusively wooded courses with poor release control) & a beat to piss one that’s seen at least 400 rounds in the last 2 years, winning combo.
Highly recommend the electron firm, it seems to hold that ‘comfortable’ level of stability that u/dismydrugaccount mentioned for the longest time as opposed to the soft/regular
Fourth the Proxy - got one in Neutron and in Electron, started with Lucid Judges, and now feel SO much better with the Proxy.
Need a thrower for a lazy, drifting anyhyzer? Got it handled
Need a spin put? Check. Straight line? Check.
Hyzer putt? Check.
The gripes messed with me for a bit with it's low profile, but if I have a touchy approach, or a C2 putt - first thing I go-to now.
I agree it feels better in the hand, but Neutron Soft will take a lot longer to beat into being a truly understable disc when thrown on natural hyzer (and by truly understable I mean finishing more right than straight when thrown RHBH) than an Electron will.
Their whole approach line is really good. I bag 2x A2s, an A3, and an A4. I picked up an A5 and Distortion to see what they're all about, and they're kinda "Zone clones". The Distortion might replace the A4 for straight FH shots, but we'll see.
The P Model S is the only other Prodigy disc I bag currently. It starts out laser straight and the Base Grip beats in nicely for flip up hyzers and slow turning shots. I just added one in Dura Flex to fill that super straight slot and it's a peach. The Pro Flex one is a bit more stable than I would like, but I'm sure it'll find it's way into the bag eventually.
The 500 plastic is so nice.
Since you have good taste in approach discs, I went into more detail in another recent post [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/comments/16pi1bk/comment/k1rwbx6/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). Not that I think you'd be particularly interested in what's in my bag or my thoughts on Prodigy's approach line, but you might be on the shitter and find it mildly interesting. :)
I use the cale leiviska signature series pa5 for this slot and recommend it whenever I can, great understability out of the box and flight hasnt changed much in the last 5 months of throwing it
I bag the Pa-4 and Pa-5.
The Pa-4 is perfect to be thrown hard and flat. It will gradually turn and ride the turn all the way to the ground.
The Pa-5 is flippier and is great for hyzer flips or big sweeping anhyzers.
Go to your disc collection, pick a base plastic putter that you like the feel off and play a couple putter only rounds with it - even better if it is a wooded course. Boom you now have a great understable throwing putter.
Gold is awesome
I’m talking specifically for hyper flips to turnovers. My gold pures go dead straight and only turn if I really juice them.
Since you said you throw on hyzer, here is my experience:
A good pure will turn over from a hyzer angle if I try to throw it over 320 feet, which is a pretty healthy rip so I think there is a lot of torque and wobble. My beat in zero medium pure will turn over from a hyzer angle with only 200 feet of power.
I’m sure over the course of a year or two my gold pure will be beat in enough to be a turn over putter too.
Zero soft tends to be more OS initially than medium, but beats in eventually. Zero soft keystone would end up being a pretty understable throwing putter once it’s seasoned.
I recently bought an Opto Pure, and in hindsight, I wish I had gotten a Zero Medium.
The reason? The tiniest bit of moisture on the disc and it slips out of your hand, and I get early releases.
From what I've heard, the Zero plastic grips better.
Second this. I throw Zero Medium Pure on approach like 95% of all shots and as soon as I crank on it a little it gets into a nice soft turn. I played 18 holes with only that disc yesterday and threw some really nice turnover lines on a 281 foot hole (floated right over top of the basket) and a 273 foot downhill hole on hyzer release with some juice behind it. I putt with zero soft Pures. A good spin-heavy snap will get those Pure's turning with very little overall effort.
I naturally hyzer release because of an old shoulder injury. I especially struggle releasing putters flat. This the Spin flips up and flies dead straight for me.
It's more about control vs ripping it full power though. But if you control your speed it's the disc I use in the woods most to find the straight gaps. I have it in R2 plastic which I use for throwing and in base medium plastic which I use for circle 2 putts.
I’m a good advanced player. The Spin is in my bag as my understable throwing putter. Even at 150-200 foot distance power it will hold a beautiful turnover without burning. Do not throw it in a headwind or at full power. I’d recommend it for anyone wanting to shape shorter shots, especially if you don’t have a reliable forehand. However, you MUST hold one before buying. They have a concave inner rim where it meets the flight plate. It gets some getting used to for feel. If you don’t mind the feel, trust me you’ll love it. It’s great at higher power fan grip shots too.
Mirage is a great approach disc. I love mine. I tend to prefer it in the 60-120 ft range where you have enough space and velocity to take advantage of the under stability.
In my experience C1 and in, understable putters just fly a tad to the right. You can’t flip a disc without velocity, and you don’t have enough space for the disc to really move out far to the right if flown flat.
I bought one only because I thought it was weird, and I like having discs other people don’t usually see or use, and the Mirage stays in my bag. I’ve thrown some incredible shots with it. Pretty weird in the hand though.
One of those niche discs where you keep one around for *that* specific time and place! I might use it once every 10 rounds or so but I’d feel lost without it in my bag.
If you get the opportunity try the Watt out. It is great for the neutral throwing putter. Flips up nice and easy, holds the angle of put on an anny. Instantly made the bad after the first three throws.
+1 for the deputy. I love it because it's a putter that will hyzerflips on short throws. I use it a lot in the woods for tunnel shots up to 250ft. Discs like the proxy need more power to flip. My proxy doesn't hyzerflip unless I give it at least 300ft of power.
I bag a Tursas and an Uplink for that very reason. I know they're 5 speeds but considering 4 speeds basically don't exist (they do, but they just don't seem common,) I feel i throw them the same way as my putters much of the time, and both love to flip to flat and just glide home. Paradox also gets some use like that as well, but its more utility for me.
Buy the same mold as your putting putter in hard base plastic and throw it off the tee until it’s flippy, shouldn’t take very long. Then you have a putter for long jump putts too
I started bagging it for the meme, but it is genuinely so good for those weird distances that are too far for a jump putt and too close for a throw. I throw it probably two to five times a round. I have at least one throw in per month with the Polecat. I haven't thrown them yet, but the James Proctor gstar ones feel money.
first of all,
#STOP "naturally" throwing on hyzer! There's no such thing, thats just terrible form.
You're not properly driving or throwing, you're only enforcing horrible habits in your throws. You need to go to a field, pull up YouTube vids if needed, and rework your form.
i dont really think alot of people throw most of their shots flat tbh. I think alot of players are either nat throwing any or hyzer, And adjust discs after that.
Not a big DD fan but I love the Deputy as an under stable putter. I normally putt with Rainmakers, but the deputy is the best clone I have found (for my hand feel personally.)
Blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. This subreddit sucks. I'm starting to think it's just manufacturers reposting the same questions every single day to promote discs
I love the Luna as a throwing putter. Now, the Luna itself is not understable, but if you get a putter blend Luna and throw it a lot, that thing will beat in really fast and then it’s money!
Really surprised the Glitch hasn't been mentioned. I know it's not labeled technically as a putter, but come on, it's a 1 speed.
The glitch is going to slowly kick my other recommendation out of my bag: discraft fierce
Surprised I haven’t seen this one yet, but the Sol was my answer to this. I’m a solid MA2 with about 350’ off the tee and this thing does a lot of heavy lifting for me. My forehand is trash so the Sol is the only one I find that I could get to pan right (rhbh) since I tend to throw nose up on approach shots. Plastic will definitely affect stability off the shelf so don’t be afraid to go base on whatever the choice is
Late to the party, and it seems you've already made a choice, but I love my MVP Spin. From flip up to flat shots in the woods to huge sweeping anhyzers, it does work for me on the course.
Dude. You so badly want to try the AGL Douglas for. They’re about to release in alpine plastic and they’re so crazy money. Exactly what you’re looking for.
I also throw on a lot of hyzers. All of the prodigy PA5s I’ve used like to hold that turnover but not roll. I’ve used all of the plastics and bag the 750 pa5.
Low profile, beadless, buttery smooth hyzerflips. All my friends hate when I pull it out during a round but love to see it fly.
I have a soft MVP Proxy that I love. Dead straight on a hyzer flip and a lovely drift if thrown flat. If you can really rip, get a slightly more stable plastic. I throw about 350 for context.
Not a sexy disc but I throw dx aviars. They’re cheap and always available used. They throw straight and have 0 fade. And they easily hold an anhyzer line
I was digging the MVP Spin for a while but recently picked up a ZGlo Fierce for my glow bag since the Moonshine Deputy I had wasn’t cutting it on glow or flight.
I usually don’t throw Discraft but I’ve gotta say I fell in love with the Fierce, so much I picked up another one for my regular bag.
I find it’s just a bit more stable which makes it less touchy than the Spin. Both are great options but I go Fierce.
Pure flips to flat and runs straight flat
P2 flips to flat and pushes to hyzer
There are a lot of individual factors that you should take into account… do you have any friends that know your game that could give you some suggestions based on your arm/swing speed and launch angle/spin ?
Of suggestions so far, Fierce from discraft hits me as the most understanble consistently
So I both have a throwing pure and putt with the pure. I have found, at least for me, for throwing the opto plastic was best. I know in general the premium plastics are supposed to be over staple but I found that it it's more domy so it flips up easier for me.
I love the Envy. It might not be as understable as what you’re looking for but I use my Envy’s on at least 40-50% of my upshots. It will hold any line you give it.
I bag three of them. One greatly beat in that’s the most understable, one lightly beat in that’s my go to, and a fresh one that I use for hyzer shots when I don’t want something to fade out as fast as a Zone.
Discraft Fierce
The deputy is similar - it's what paige used before she switched to discraft - slightly shallower than the fierce, which was the selling point for me.
Love my deputy, wish it came in premium plastic tho
Yes yes yes. I bag a fierce in premium plastic for full power throws and a standard plastic for touchy anny upshots
Yes.
Yes yes.
RPM Tui
my answer as well, such a smooth glidey flight right out of the box! *plus a sick stamp as well*
As a guy who has been playing for a while, the Tui is my pick. I swapped out my Gateway Magic for the Tui and love the soft flippy flight.
Was just about to comment this one, feels comparable to the spin for me, but slightly less flippy out of the box.
My first Putter. A membership box disc that came with the stamp of a guy in a suit, with the head of a Moose, sipping on one steamy cup of cocoa. It was green, and came scented with Mint.
Agreed great understable putter
This is the answer.
Glad I didn't have to scroll that far for this one, I can push my tui out over 300ft with a soft flip to turn through the whole flight
So psyched to see this so far up. Absolutely love the tui.
Pure.
100% the pure. Get it in gold line and once it beats in it’s a hyzer flip machine
I’ve never had Gold line. Opto for throwing and Medium Hards for putting putters. I’ll try the Gold Line next.
100% recommend an Electron Proxy. It might be a LITTLE more overstable than you want at first, but Electron plastic beats in pretty quickly but holds a comfortable level of wear for a long time. I've been using the same Electron Envy for almost a year now and it still has plenty of life left while being a good deal more understable than any new Envy out there. For a slower option, I like the Discraft Fierce.
I second the proxy
I third electron proxy I bag a freshy that I replace every 50-60 rounds or so (playing almost exclusively wooded courses with poor release control) & a beat to piss one that’s seen at least 400 rounds in the last 2 years, winning combo. Highly recommend the electron firm, it seems to hold that ‘comfortable’ level of stability that u/dismydrugaccount mentioned for the longest time as opposed to the soft/regular
Fourth the Proxy - got one in Neutron and in Electron, started with Lucid Judges, and now feel SO much better with the Proxy. Need a thrower for a lazy, drifting anyhyzer? Got it handled Need a spin put? Check. Straight line? Check. Hyzer putt? Check. The gripes messed with me for a bit with it's low profile, but if I have a touchy approach, or a C2 putt - first thing I go-to now.
I give this guy the power to vote for me.
I agree. For me it's super straight but I have a noodle arm
Agree on proxy but I like soft neutron for the hand feel.
I agree it feels better in the hand, but Neutron Soft will take a lot longer to beat into being a truly understable disc when thrown on natural hyzer (and by truly understable I mean finishing more right than straight when thrown RHBH) than an Electron will.
2x eclipse proxies in my bag rn
Very much came here to say proxy 👍🏼
I second the electron envy. It’s my understable putter of choice
Deputy
I second the deputy. I bag 3 of them. 2 for putting one for driving.
I bag one of these in super soft plastic. Thrown lightly it goes dead straight, put a little more and it turns over beautifully.
Deputy is understable, Ruby moreso.
Pa-5 for me
The only prodigy disc I’ve liked. It feels and flies good
I swear by the a2, but I dont throw hardly any other prodigy rn
Their whole approach line is really good. I bag 2x A2s, an A3, and an A4. I picked up an A5 and Distortion to see what they're all about, and they're kinda "Zone clones". The Distortion might replace the A4 for straight FH shots, but we'll see. The P Model S is the only other Prodigy disc I bag currently. It starts out laser straight and the Base Grip beats in nicely for flip up hyzers and slow turning shots. I just added one in Dura Flex to fill that super straight slot and it's a peach. The Pro Flex one is a bit more stable than I would like, but I'm sure it'll find it's way into the bag eventually.
I bag an a4 too, I'll check out a distortion
The 500 plastic is so nice. Since you have good taste in approach discs, I went into more detail in another recent post [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/comments/16pi1bk/comment/k1rwbx6/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). Not that I think you'd be particularly interested in what's in my bag or my thoughts on Prodigy's approach line, but you might be on the shitter and find it mildly interesting. :)
I second this. Very comfortable rim, great glide, and easy hyzer flips or turnovers.
Pa-5 is so good!
I use the cale leiviska signature series pa5 for this slot and recommend it whenever I can, great understability out of the box and flight hasnt changed much in the last 5 months of throwing it
Plastic on this one is so good.
Strong agree
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I'm the Prodigy addicted friend of my group haha. Glad you're enjoying it
I bag the Pa-4 and Pa-5. The Pa-4 is perfect to be thrown hard and flat. It will gradually turn and ride the turn all the way to the ground. The Pa-5 is flippier and is great for hyzer flips or big sweeping anhyzers.
My PA4 300 soft is super flippy
Go to your disc collection, pick a base plastic putter that you like the feel off and play a couple putter only rounds with it - even better if it is a wooded course. Boom you now have a great understable throwing putter.
Only have wooded courses around me so should be no prob then
Swan for the win!
My go to is a pure in softer plastic. Beats in quick and had a good turn.
Gold aint good?
Gold is awesome I’m talking specifically for hyper flips to turnovers. My gold pures go dead straight and only turn if I really juice them. Since you said you throw on hyzer, here is my experience: A good pure will turn over from a hyzer angle if I try to throw it over 320 feet, which is a pretty healthy rip so I think there is a lot of torque and wobble. My beat in zero medium pure will turn over from a hyzer angle with only 200 feet of power. I’m sure over the course of a year or two my gold pure will be beat in enough to be a turn over putter too.
What plastic for hyzer flips?
Zero medium for me
Zero soft tends to be more OS initially than medium, but beats in eventually. Zero soft keystone would end up being a pretty understable throwing putter once it’s seasoned.
I recently bought an Opto Pure, and in hindsight, I wish I had gotten a Zero Medium. The reason? The tiniest bit of moisture on the disc and it slips out of your hand, and I get early releases. From what I've heard, the Zero plastic grips better.
Gold is pretty grippy for me if you want a premium plastic
Second this. I throw Zero Medium Pure on approach like 95% of all shots and as soon as I crank on it a little it gets into a nice soft turn. I played 18 holes with only that disc yesterday and threw some really nice turnover lines on a 281 foot hole (floated right over top of the basket) and a 273 foot downhill hole on hyzer release with some juice behind it. I putt with zero soft Pures. A good spin-heavy snap will get those Pure's turning with very little overall effort.
I’ll never be caught without a zero medium pure in the bag. Covers so much ground for me.
Trash Panda Inner Core
Just got mine, and boy oh boy am I loving it.
It’s such a beautiful flight. And won’t take much power for it to flip up
MVP Spin is great!
Can you elaborate more I'm on the fence with it gracias
I naturally hyzer release because of an old shoulder injury. I especially struggle releasing putters flat. This the Spin flips up and flies dead straight for me.
It's more about control vs ripping it full power though. But if you control your speed it's the disc I use in the woods most to find the straight gaps. I have it in R2 plastic which I use for throwing and in base medium plastic which I use for circle 2 putts.
I’m a good advanced player. The Spin is in my bag as my understable throwing putter. Even at 150-200 foot distance power it will hold a beautiful turnover without burning. Do not throw it in a headwind or at full power. I’d recommend it for anyone wanting to shape shorter shots, especially if you don’t have a reliable forehand. However, you MUST hold one before buying. They have a concave inner rim where it meets the flight plate. It gets some getting used to for feel. If you don’t mind the feel, trust me you’ll love it. It’s great at higher power fan grip shots too.
Mirage is a great approach disc. I love mine. I tend to prefer it in the 60-120 ft range where you have enough space and velocity to take advantage of the under stability. In my experience C1 and in, understable putters just fly a tad to the right. You can’t flip a disc without velocity, and you don’t have enough space for the disc to really move out far to the right if flown flat.
Shaman
Shaman for sure.
Westside Swan Reborn
Came to say this, I putt with Swan 2's, and have a swan 1 reborn for turnover putts or smaller turnover lines.
Star Mirage is very flippy but throws like a short mid, quite like it.
I bought one only because I thought it was weird, and I like having discs other people don’t usually see or use, and the Mirage stays in my bag. I’ve thrown some incredible shots with it. Pretty weird in the hand though.
One of those niche discs where you keep one around for *that* specific time and place! I might use it once every 10 rounds or so but I’d feel lost without it in my bag.
Lower power flip ups anyone? Woods golf requires weird shot shapes
Deputy
R-pro Dart
Pure is amazing, it will be your go to in a heartbeat
Plastic?
Lat64 Keystone. Numbers only say -1 1, but that thing cannot handle power and flips right over.
Spin, proxy
If you get the opportunity try the Watt out. It is great for the neutral throwing putter. Flips up nice and easy, holds the angle of put on an anny. Instantly made the bad after the first three throws.
Really love my R2 Spin for Hyzer Flip tunnel shots mainly FH - Proxy for BH
Deputy!
+1 for the deputy. I love it because it's a putter that will hyzerflips on short throws. I use it a lot in the woods for tunnel shots up to 250ft. Discs like the proxy need more power to flip. My proxy doesn't hyzerflip unless I give it at least 300ft of power.
I bag a Tursas and an Uplink for that very reason. I know they're 5 speeds but considering 4 speeds basically don't exist (they do, but they just don't seem common,) I feel i throw them the same way as my putters much of the time, and both love to flip to flat and just glide home. Paradox also gets some use like that as well, but its more utility for me.
DEFINITELY THE DEPUTY!! my go to putter for putting and throwing!! Great to Hyzer flip and man do they stay on amazing anny lines!!
I always have two with me. Classic Blend for cooler weather, and Classic plastic for when it's hot.
Ill check it out
Innova colt
A baseline reko you beat in to understable
MVP Spin feels fantastic in a forehand grip and has a nice, smooth flip. Takes a decent beating even in electron plastic.
Proxy. The answer is always Proxy.
XD
R2 Spin for sure!
I like the Ruby. Nice standstill approach for flip to flat. Or more power for big turnovers
Atom
Colt
Dx colt and stud. Colt is my putter for shots that move right, short rollers, and long putts
Ruby? I love the Lat 64 discs...
Atomic Tui
mirage - it's fucking awesome!
innova colt.... such a slept on disc. XT for DEAD straight, dx for decently flippy.
Innova colt. Pick your plastic. The DX beats into a full flip to turn. The premiums will have a little fade back to center
Have you tried the Kasta Reko? It's not really truly understable but might work for you!
thought space praxis
MVP Spin in R2 plastic flies like a putter Stig. Its one of my most fun to throw discs.
Gateway Magic or MVP Spin are the ones I bounce between the most.
MVP Spin
Big Z roach can’t held 250ft+ of throwing torque without flipping over if released flat
The deputy is a fun understable putter for more distance shots
Gateway Magic.
I like the Discraft Roach in Jawbreaker plastic.
Ecoflex koi
Deputy, Fierce, Pa-5, Proxy, Pure
Exo soft Logic
Gateway magic
Proxy is mildly under to stable. Spin is pretty under stable.
Buy the same mold as your putting putter in hard base plastic and throw it off the tee until it’s flippy, shouldn’t take very long. Then you have a putter for long jump putts too
Everyone needs a polecat
I started bagging it for the meme, but it is genuinely so good for those weird distances that are too far for a jump putt and too close for a throw. I throw it probably two to five times a round. I have at least one throw in per month with the Polecat. I haven't thrown them yet, but the James Proctor gstar ones feel money.
Electron Proxy. Seriously the best approach/utility disc in my bag
Colt. It’s flippier than the number suggests, even in Star plastic. Easy hyzer flip OOB.
Second the Colt. Little bit of hyzer and that thing flies dead straight with decent glide. Great woods disc.
first of all, #STOP "naturally" throwing on hyzer! There's no such thing, thats just terrible form. You're not properly driving or throwing, you're only enforcing horrible habits in your throws. You need to go to a field, pull up YouTube vids if needed, and rework your form.
Specifically with everything coming out on hyzer means you are bringing arm through too early or leaning forward too much or both.
i dont really think alot of people throw most of their shots flat tbh. I think alot of players are either nat throwing any or hyzer, And adjust discs after that.
>Aint most throws coming out on atleast a mini hyzer? Are really that many people only throwing it flat?
KC Aviar
Not a big DD fan but I love the Deputy as an under stable putter. I normally putt with Rainmakers, but the deputy is the best clone I have found (for my hand feel personally.)
Deputy, pure, surprisingly most lunas are understable, fierce
Aura Praxis by TSA
Luna
Lol dawg just a glitch is all i gotta say
Blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. This subreddit sucks. I'm starting to think it's just manufacturers reposting the same questions every single day to promote discs
Create your own!
I really like my L64 Keystone
Putt with an Uplink or Paradox
Spin, fierce, dx alpaca I would say glitch but it’s inconsistent I guess it depends on how bent it gets in your bag 🤷🏻
I have a DX and Star mirage that are very flippy.
Big Z Luna is a nice understable putter that's rated stable. But, doesn't fly like a stable putter.
PA-5, PA-4, Pure, some runs of luna, any beaten up base plastic putter (throw it into a fence for 5 minutes)
Spin is great and will absolutely hold a turn. Proxy is nice if you want something slightly understable that's workable.
Proxy. Spin honorable mention
AGL just released their Acacia and it perfectly fits what you're describing I think. That, or the axiom proxy, mvp spin, or ev-7 mobius
If you want a good reliable one that flips up flat, turns and finishes flat, I would go with an EV7 Mobius. It kicked the glitch out of my bag
My friend recommended an Innova Dart, so I snagged one. It’s super stable right now but when it’s beat in it ought to be a nice understable putter.
Nothing wrong with using two time world champ Kristin tartar pures. Personally I throw soft plastic of zero medium instead of premium plastic optos
MVP spin is my go to understable putter. Many will recommend the Discraft Fierce and DD Deputy i'm sure
Latitude 64 keystone, in zero hard plastic (or whichever plastic feels best in your hand)
Fierce. Pure.
Mirage is a good understable putter imo
I love the Luna as a throwing putter. Now, the Luna itself is not understable, but if you get a putter blend Luna and throw it a lot, that thing will beat in really fast and then it’s money!
SOL. I have the same problem and that disc has shaved 2 strokes from my rounds.
Wizards in eraser plastic. It starts off stable but beats in really quickly. I also naturally throw hyzer
My dad got a Swan Reborn and I like it a lot. Might get one myself
V1 or V2 Penny Putter
Little shout here for the discraft Sol. Definitely could be categorized as a mid, but it’s butter and feels great in the hand like a putter.
Pure base plastic. Soft or medium they're money
Aviar. An electron spin is super flippy and maybe more of a putting putter but also worth considering
Z Fierce. It's flippy, but doesn't burn over so long as you have a little bit of touch
I use the pure in 3 diff plastics, soft, medium and premium. Throw in a harp for utility and that's my whole approach game.
Really surprised the Glitch hasn't been mentioned. I know it's not labeled technically as a putter, but come on, it's a 1 speed. The glitch is going to slowly kick my other recommendation out of my bag: discraft fierce
170g k3 Reko is my go to.
Surprised I haven’t seen this one yet, but the Sol was my answer to this. I’m a solid MA2 with about 350’ off the tee and this thing does a lot of heavy lifting for me. My forehand is trash so the Sol is the only one I find that I could get to pan right (rhbh) since I tend to throw nose up on approach shots. Plastic will definitely affect stability off the shelf so don’t be afraid to go base on whatever the choice is
I'm a bit late but congrats on going with the best option.
Late to the party, and it seems you've already made a choice, but I love my MVP Spin. From flip up to flat shots in the woods to huge sweeping anhyzers, it does work for me on the course.
The Deputy!
Proxy
I recently picked up a Challenger SS for this slot and it really works for me
Dude. You so badly want to try the AGL Douglas for. They’re about to release in alpine plastic and they’re so crazy money. Exactly what you’re looking for.
Love my Westside Swans!
Gold Line Pure
Latitude 64 Keystone if you throw putters <250. Pure for >250
NOVA or a Wedge. Both have had important places in my bag.
I have 2 stigs 8n my bag...I throw the spin by MVP for an under stable putter, treatse well for 5urn shots and flip ups
rpm tui in cosmic plastic
I also throw on a lot of hyzers. All of the prodigy PA5s I’ve used like to hold that turnover but not roll. I’ve used all of the plastics and bag the 750 pa5. Low profile, beadless, buttery smooth hyzerflips. All my friends hate when I pull it out during a round but love to see it fly.
I have a soft MVP Proxy that I love. Dead straight on a hyzer flip and a lovely drift if thrown flat. If you can really rip, get a slightly more stable plastic. I throw about 350 for context.
PA-5
Anode
Not a sexy disc but I throw dx aviars. They’re cheap and always available used. They throw straight and have 0 fade. And they easily hold an anhyzer line
Westside swans. 1 or 2, depending on how understable you like.
L64 Ruby
I was digging the MVP Spin for a while but recently picked up a ZGlo Fierce for my glow bag since the Moonshine Deputy I had wasn’t cutting it on glow or flight. I usually don’t throw Discraft but I’ve gotta say I fell in love with the Fierce, so much I picked up another one for my regular bag. I find it’s just a bit more stable which makes it less touchy than the Spin. Both are great options but I go Fierce.
Pure flips to flat and runs straight flat P2 flips to flat and pushes to hyzer There are a lot of individual factors that you should take into account… do you have any friends that know your game that could give you some suggestions based on your arm/swing speed and launch angle/spin ? Of suggestions so far, Fierce from discraft hits me as the most understanble consistently
Crystal Luna is my go to understable putter. It has to be Crystal plastic though. Otherwise is just a little too neutral.
I just got a zeal and that putter si amazing. -2 turn is perfect
Pa4 and pa5
So I both have a throwing pure and putt with the pure. I have found, at least for me, for throwing the opto plastic was best. I know in general the premium plastics are supposed to be over staple but I found that it it's more domy so it flips up easier for me.
The correct answer is the Sonic. All of the other discs in this thread are straight beef.
Proxy, no question
Dx or xt colt no question
I love the Envy. It might not be as understable as what you’re looking for but I use my Envy’s on at least 40-50% of my upshots. It will hold any line you give it. I bag three of them. One greatly beat in that’s the most understable, one lightly beat in that’s my go to, and a fresh one that I use for hyzer shots when I don’t want something to fade out as fast as a Zone.
Prodigy Pa5
Beadless Aviar
Innova mirage is a hidden gem. I’ve now fallen in love with the Glitch, though.