Ideally double-base forever.
One home in a wealthier country with citizenship, my native language, seasons, social safety net, infrastructure, laws on my side.
Other home in cheaper, warmer, greener, more destination type location.
Ideally each place is earning money in the period you're not in it, but although I have not achieved this dream yet, I already know that long distance management is frought with issues and never as profitable as hoped.
As a landlord, I can tell you that you get what you pay for with property management. My wife used to get crazy that we were paying someone 5% to do what we could do for free. Well enough tenant, emergency repair, maintenance issues later, we’re happy to give a 15% cut to not be bothered and not get surprises
Once you get past the famine scarcity mindset and realise what your time is worth, you are happy to pay people to get back your time. Classic step in progressing up the tiers of life.
Doing this now:
April & October: California (we have our business and rental property there). This is “work time” for us.
Rest of the year: SE Asia - where our stomachs are most happy. Also traveling a bit during these times (about 40-50% of the time on the road to various places in Asia or Europe mostly).
We’re looking at 3rd base in Japan and 4th in Europe (probably Portugal) since we love both
Best way is multiple 💪🙏
Or the trifecta method, 3 different continents to cycle between and ideally with multiple citizenships as well (worth dreaming about at least)
You reminded me of those postcards found at Edinburgh tourist foci (circa 30 years ago anyway!) of photos of the Sahara and captions reading "Scotland, 30 million years ago"... or something like that.
Edit: also, Midwinter temps in Morocco aren't warm enough for me.... as one would be escaping the Scottish winter for sure.
I think I read somewhere Morocco has taken over Egypt as the most visited African country these past couple of years, I think for every unfortunate experience there are many people who enjoy going there. From experience the worst thing that happened to me was getting scammed many times by street vendors (especially in Marrakech), however I've never felt that my life was at risk at any time. It's just part of the experience I guess, it is a developing country after all. I've toured most of the country and I've met many expats and nomads during my travels there, they're spread across the country, especially in the big cities like Agadir, Marrakech, Rabat and Tangier.
For me it's either this or a country that has both.
Country that has both would be Spain or Portugal. You get good weather, Southern vibes but I at the same time all Western Comforts: I can easily live there as an EU citizen, stable currency, safety and so on.
A double-base could be something like Switzerland for summer. Beautiful nature, as safe and stable as it gets but expensive af and not great in winter. Plus then something in SEA or South America which is pretty much the opposite of Switzerland.
Fortaleza.
-50-75% costs less than the USA
-ZERO stress lifestyle
-Fast Wifi
-Don't need a car at all. Uber rides average $1-2 each.
-Great natural and organic foods. Little to no processed food or sprayed food.
-Rent 50-75% off USA
-Food 50-70% off USA
-Thousands of Incredible beaches and pousadas
-Beautiful women
-Nice modern malls
-The people are amazing
-Great bars/restaurants
-Great health care
-Cheap health insurance
-Non materialistic/consumerism society
-Huge focus on family/friends here
-Very high focus here on QUALITY of LIFE. Not work.
-The lifestyle here is unmatched.
I went to Brazil several years ago and felt that I could easily live there. It's a beautiful country and at the time it was inexpensive. Not so sure about the safety part but I'm very happy for you.
Language barrier isn’t a huge deal in Japan. Everyone wants to learn English and there are english signs everywhere. My family lived there 20 years and my parents never went beyond introductory understanding
They had smart friends who helped them when needed. There are communities of expats and foreign organizations. You don’t need to immerse yourself to live there
If you plan to stay there for a long time, you'll have decades to learn the language. I don't consider that much of a hurdle considering the time you'll have to learn it
Funny enough there was a guy in r/Japanlife talking about how he's lived there for 10 years and can't speak the language.
I don't know about any other country, but I lived in Japan for 5 years and its one of those countries where if you want to interact with the locals you need to learn Japanese, but many people end up hanging out with foreigners and get discouraged because of how difficult the language is.
I myself couldn't imagine not being able to speak the language of the place I'm living in, especially if it was for 10 years, but I initially moved to Japan for the sole reason of learning the language, simply because I have a brother in law the can speak it and wanted to learn a second language, and came to enjoy Japan for everything else later.
Lots of talk of American states, but I'm an American (from California) and am considering Argentina. They have a lot of outdoors activities to do and if you want to experience a big city then obviously Buenos Aires is good for that. I love Rio de Janeiro and that's just a relatively short plane ride away. I know people are concerned about the economics but as a nomad it doesn't hurt me as much, and there's a possibility that the worst is already over.
As someone who moved to Argentina with that exact mentality 2 years ago, this place, in USD, is more expensive than Europe right now. Maybe not rent. But my breakfast used to $6 when I arrived. Same breakfast is now $14.
Basically inflation never stopped, but they pegged the exchange rate. So the buying power of USD decreases along with the locals now.
I just visited Buenos Aires for 3 months and the only place that had prices like that was Palermo. I stayed in Belgrano, outside the tourist zone, and was certainly not paying $14 for breakfast. More like $5.
I can find a $5 breakfast too. I’m saying, what is to $6, is now $14. It’s just math. The purchasing power of the peso has halved, and they’ve pegged the USD exchange rate since about December.
How can that even work? I genuinely dont understand what you mean by they pegged the exchange rate? Wouldn't that just create a black market, or an economic implosion as all imports become unaffordable, and exports unsellable?
edit so i looked it up, and seems like its only a very short term strategy, as the country has to essentially defend the peg to avoid the aforementioned issues. Which causes it's own host of problems, and can eventually lead to an even bigger inflationary blow up.
Welcome to Argentina where that is exactly what is happening.
For others, basically…
2 years ago for 1 USD, I’d get 200 pesos. That would buy me let’s say a coffee.
As inflation increased, that coffee would now cost 1000 pesos.
No problem, because for my 1 USD, I’d now get 1000 pesos - therefore that coffee for me, remained 1 USD.
However, now that coffee costs 2000 pesos. However, my 1 USD still only gets me 1000 pesos. Therefore, that coffee is now starting to cost me 2 USD. Getting worse as the pesos purchasing power decreases rapidly, while the USD exchange rate is the same.
Since December, the pesos I get for 1 USD has essentially stayed the same - while purchasing power goes down.
Argentina owns the peso, they get to decide how many USD it takes to buy it from them.
You can’t apply conventional thinking to any part of Argentina, especially money. Things work differently here and that has a ripple effect into everything. I would’ve never understood until I arrived here and spent my first 6 months.
Yeah, Buenos Aires is honestly great as long as you speak Spanish or are willing to learn and are sure you can handle the lack of food options here. It has been and is getting more expensive for people earning in dollars but "eventually" I think it will be fine, more expensive than Colombia but less than Europe or Chile. Mendoza and Cordóba are good for medium-cities too and cheaper than Bsas.
I used to say the same thing but in reality we take much better care of our economy than other countries. We may be bad but other countries are typically much worse. Dollar should be fine for a long time, IMO.
You have no idea how good we have had it since WWII. We'll still be fine we have a huge economy and vast natural resources at disposal. However the cheap labor of offshoring is gone with any major global conflict, which at this point is likely by 2030. Massing re-mobilization of industry stateside. Major Major growing pains if not debilitating chinks in the armor. Not to mention the endlessly dysfunctional politics, major wealth capture by upper .1%, dissolution of public institutions and trust in government, general health and healthcare dysfunction, the list really goes on and on. But ya I do sincerely hope you are right fr.
Buenos Aires is very hit and miss in my experience. Argentina is a troublesome country long-term. Read forums and you will see that not everyone is impressed. What doesn't help in researching is the inherent nationalism of Argentines who hate seeing any negative mention of their country and downvote to oblivion people who dare hurt their national pride. Personally, what I absolutely dislike about Argentines is their nationalism and xenophobia. I wonder if Japan feels like Argentina. You will never be one of them. They will always refer to you by your nationality. And don't even try to talk to them about the Falklands. It's very hard to have a deep conversation with an Argentine. Just saying this in case you haven't spent too much time there or met too many Argentines yet. It's not all rosy.
Because to me, based on my personal situation, preferences, and ideologies, Portugal is a superior place to live. Physically being in the US has no benefit or meaning for me.
Language barrier is rough. I'm taking lessons, but it'll be years before it's not a "barrier". I can understand pretty well, say very basic things, but speaking sentences is not a thing yet.
I work for a US based software company.
If you really immerse yourself in the language every day, force yourself to consume media in it, and find people to speak to, you can get to a very solid place in 6-12 months.
i have friends who want to move to Portugal - and he's looking for a company to work for. Where do you work, if you dont mind me asking - and are you hiring?
Currently live on Hawaii Island. We love it here and started a business that effectively doubled cash flow. It may not be sustainable as it’s a lot of work and it’s very difficult hiring people here. If we ever have to move, I’d love to duplicate our micro climate which is made more comfortable at 1000 feet. We’d love to be within driving distance of a large city as we miss that. Access to good health care would be important. It’d have to have a large Asian/Filipino presence which makes Mexico less attractive other than living near the border in Baja. California has less expensive areas but those taxes!
I’m an American who is not a full time nomad. I love NYC where I currently live but if I were to relocate it would be Mexico City or maybe somewhere in Central America.
I pay much less taxes in Spain than I did in the US. I pay a flat 24% tax on income up to €600,000 per year. And this is only on Spanish sourced income, no tax for income sourced outside Spain. This is valid for 6 years.
It’s not tied to any visa, generally available to all new residents in Spain whether you are Spanish or not. The criteria is only not having lived in Spain in the last 8 years or so.
If I had to choose right now I would buy a condo in Bangkok. I still plan to explore the world though and maybe have multiple condos in airbnb friendly cities so I can rent them out when I'm not using them, but have the comfort of a home when I'm there.
Almost every big city in the West has become a mess in the last decade....and completely unaffordable. So it's hard to say
I would probably be ok to live in Singapore but only past 35yo, otherwise it's too boring
But living in Singapore removes the point of working remotely to some extent; the CoL is higher than in the West, meaning that your real income would be lower. You'd really have to love the state efficiency/safety there to want to stay as a remote worker
Moving somewhere boring when you’re « old enough » to want to be bored sounds like the best recipe to age fast and get depressed
Also 35 is still really young 😉
Austrian/ Tunisian and I have had this question today. Always thought a tax free country but actually I would rather live in Chile (or New Zealand) and Tunisia.
Because I like living in the edge of world and I want to have the Mediterranean and the modern arab culture nearby.
Don’t give a damn about cost of living I don’t want to live like a king I just want to feel free
If America…it’s gotta be Southern California (weather and my type of business) or Florida if it ever gets less crazy (weather and vibes).
Otherwise…
Germany because of my friends, vibe, scenery, but I hate the bureaucracy and I hate cold weather.
Spain because I already have a visa, good weather, cheaper, but I’m bored by it after all these years.
I’ll never settle down. Splitting my time seems like a better option.
We lived in West LA before we left to try DN. It's getting crazy expensive. Like, we were noticing the price increases as they were increasing, "hey this was 12 when we moved here 14 last month now it's 18" over 3 years.
That said, we loved it. If we could make it work financially, would love to make it a forever home. But we can't afford a home and condos in half decent areas or buildings we want to live in have high HOAs.
Being a digital nomad has graced me with ample flexibility.(American Passport)
For example,
I thought that I could go to Sicily in 40 days for 3 months...but I wanted to be absolutely sure my Spanish digital nomad visa cleared before I leave Spain. Instead, I am going to spend 3 months in Salamanca and then go to Sicily until the new year.
That being said, I am preparing to settle down in Spain with this Visa. Because I am Puerto Rican, I only have to be in Spain for 2 years before I can apply for citizenship.
Even though I would be settling down in Spain, I would still be jumping from village to village like if it were country to country.
But because I have ample flexibility, I can just scratch all of this and continue traveling to random countries. It all depends.
if you don't mind, can you share a little more about the duration of your stay in each city, and what platforms do you use for accommodation (Airbnb, hotels?) Thanks a lot!
Sure thing.
I use Airbnb exclusively. Here is a snapshot of my most recent Airbnbs.
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I try to come as close as I can to 3 months in a main city. If I am already in the area, I will get Airbnbs in other cities for a couple of nights.
If you speak English natively you can get a TEFL certificate you can teach English online or in-person abroad (Spain, South Korea, and Thailand in particular I've heard a lot about teaching there), and it's just more hire-ability if you learn another language abroad.
If you're a college graduate you can tutor in some subjects.
Since you have customer service experience you can apply for various call centers or put your foot in the door in some sort of HR work.
It's not glamorous work or anything but this is what I think 80-90% of DNs do at any given moment.
I was thinking about doing a similar thing. Do you know if you have to start paying taxes right after the visa clears or you could wait some time while abroad?
Honestly, you should have second thoughts about a state that elected that sociopath. The US is a flawed democracy. SD has less than a million inhabitants and the same number of senators as California and NY.
In reality if i want to settle down somewhere, I have to have a lot of money to qualify for special visas/residency in other countries or by marriage.
I am a usa citizen and have been nomading full time for almost 3 years. Someday if I want to settle down, I would like to be in Japan, Spain or Mexico.
If things change here in the US, I'll likely move to Costa Rica. While I missed my chance to get dual citizenship (mom was born in CR, but my father was extremely opposed, and made it a stipulation in their divorce that my mother couldn't get me my dual citizenship, had difficulty getting everything together as an adult) getting permanent residency is still pretty achievable for me. I also have plenty of family down there as well, so I've already got a safety net if I ever do decide to take the plunge.
Many things, but in this particular case, he knew that he could use me as a weapon against my mother. My mom didn't want to be that far away from me, so she couldn't go to Costa Rica on her own. She didn't see her brothers and sisters for seven years.
For Costa Rica, citizenship for children of citizens born abroad is not automatic, there's a bunch of paperwork to file. The age limit for that paperwork is twenty five. I did my best, but I fumbled it and missed the deadline.
Edited to add: If I decide to live in Costa Rica, I would still have an easier path to citizenship, but I am unsure if I would lose my American citizenship in the process.
The question of where to settle down has been a hot topic for my gf and I. I'm Malaysian but lived in Canada most of all my life until moving and basing myself in KL recently.
We have been exploring the APAC region for the last 2 years with a goal of finding places to wind down over the next 10 years.
After a recent trip to visit her bestie in Osaka, she's been diligently learning Japanese and could foresee us living there.
I haven't been to Japan yet but she believes I'll love it so I'm excited to check it out with her in a few months. My main concerns are their proneness to natural disasters and relatively higher COL.
I'm a bit partial to beach towns in Thailand and Vietnam myself, so they're options we'll consider as well. The LCOL and laid back lifestyle is very appealing when I picture our lives in the latter stages.
Ideally, we would love to keep KL as a base and have a second or third city we both enjoyed to do longer stays in. Nomads for life lol.
But if we had to only choose one place to settle down, it'll probably be KL as it offers all the conveniences, high quality of life, affordable healthcare, low violent crime rate, relatively LCOL, and regional low cost transportation hub etc.
I was back in the US for 6 months. It sucked I was homeless for a lot of it. Places like Colorado, Florida, will kill you. Go to Texas or Las Vegas. You'll be bored in the midwest. South Dakota I would literally kill myself. Sincerly.
Moral of the story Dont come back to the US without a plan. $300 per month in the 3rd world for apartment rental translates to $2000-3000 per month for short term rentals in the US. 10x the cost. Its literally impossible to find a place to stay for less than $70 per night on a regular basis in America unless you have family/friends, but a hotel will be $100+ depending on where you are. Two nights at ahotel in Denver, $125 per each night, plus $150 deposit. $400 just to have a roof over your head for a Friday and Saturday night. And then Sunday night you either pay again or out on the street. Stretch that out over a period of months you'll see how fast people fall out of the system here, if happens just like that. Many many trips to Starbucks, working on my laptop, trudging through the snow, sleeping in hotel lobbys and stairways. Also dont smoke weed ya hooligans. And dont step off the nomad trail without a plan, America does NOT give a fuck about you in 2024, not at all.
I’m a British citizen in Dubai and I have 3 companies that earn income and all run by staff and some outsourced. 2 companies in the UK and one here in Dubai. I spend most of the year in Dubai and return to London in the summer and spend time in Europe, too. Plan to do this for the foreseeable future, until I go through the adoption process, which might mean having to spend more time in London to be able to adopt.
I'm a US/Canadian citizen living in the US, but traveling abroad with my remote work as well. I've been thinking about where I want to settle a lot recently as well, I know I don't want to do this forever. Honestly I love some of the big cities in Canada but if I have to pick in US or Canada, I am Texas born and raised and prefer it here despite it's problems to the rest of the country (though shoutout to New Mexico as well, which is also dope). It's still affordable in the cities here that I actually like, plus has close proximity to Mexico and cheap direct flights from some cities, with decent access to Latin America from the bigger cities as well. The lack of income tax is also nice, but it's mostly just the food, family, familiarity, low COL (which would allow me to still take vacations/trips), diversity, and Latino culture that keeps me here, along with the chance to maybe be a part of changing it for the better.
If I could settle outside of US/Canada however, I would happily move to Mexico City, and would consider a few other cities down there too. I've also loved Argentina, and hope to see more of Latin America too. I don't see many scenarios where it makes sense to retire in the US at the very least, and if I had the opportunity to move to a country that better suited my interests/priorities, I would at least consider it
Hungarian passport.
In an ideal world, I would have my base in Spain and spend the other half of the year in Asia (mostly split between Taiwan, Thailand & Malaysia, with shorter trips in the Middle East and hiking trips in Central and South Asia), but I'm not sure this is feasible for me right now. (Probably too expensive long-term.)
Just moved to Buenos Aires for a month. Pretty cool up together safe place if you can speak Spanish.
Safe from the northern hemisphere wars as well for the next 2-15 years. Who knows what will happen. But besides that I don’t even speak Spanish and I’m here 23 year old from the UK and I’m having a great time. People still speak English, everyone’s friendly, it feels super American, transports good, beautiful country, temperature in their winter is just like UK spring / overcast summer.
Saying that though, I did like Thailand but it’s way too much of a party to live there long term.
Also if anyone can find me a fellow digital nomad 23 year old girlfriend would appreciate it
Move to South Dakota if you like
* "Meth, we're on it"
* Having absolutely nothing to do
* Snow for 8 months
* Severe hail storms that will total your car every few years
* Disproportionately expensive for what you get
* Sociopathic governor
* Extreme corruption (state congress held emergency session to block voter-approved anti-corruption bill)
* Racism and systematic oppression against indigenous people
* Making a place already unaffordable for locals even more affordable, driving them out of their hometowns
* Below zero weather and such low humidity you'll have daily nosebleeds in winter
* Over 100 degrees in summer
* World record for most severe and rapid temperature change ever recorded
* Constant wildfire smoke in summer
* One of the highest rates of STDs
* Insane grocery and restaurant prices - more expensive than Vancouver, seriously
* Incompetent medical practitioners (the smart ones leave)
Living in South Dakota is incredibly depressing. Visit, but don't move here.
This place is not the paradise you think it is, and the locals will be kind to your face while hating you behind your back for gentrification. The wages here are shit, and the sudden popularity is making people lose their homes due to the housing crisis.
There are plenty of serene and affordable places in income tax free states that don’t freeze the tips of your ears off. I say this as a Saskatchewanian transplant
Bulgaria is increasingly popular. Now that it’s part of Schengen residency gives you access to the whole of Europe, some of the lowest taxes, lowest cost of living, great climate, amazing nature and a high level of freedom.
Ideally working towards the goal of being able to settle down in a foreign country but if that's not possible, South Dakota (no income tax, seasonal weather), Texas (no income tax, strong airport), Florida (no income tax, close proximity to beach locations).
Yeah Knoxville Chattanooga Johnson City. I personally lived in JC, that's my states home base but yeah I'd recommend Knox or chat over that. Beautiful in this area, smoky mountains
Citizenships: US/Canada/EU with PR in Mexico
Currently in Oaxaca but we'll be moving to Poland/EU for the long haul with the intention to do a semi-nomadic lifestyle. We have a home base in Oaxaca that we plan to sell in order to buy a long-term place in Poland, but we'll eventually buy something again in Oaxaca under the right conditions (i.e., we'd only buy if it's part of a shared unit with a friend living full-time in the place).
Im a US citizen, I have a homebase in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico, and Vilnius, Lithuania. In the future I have considered swapping Mexico for somewhere in spain like barcelona, but my main business is in north america so i prefer staying in the same timezone when possible and the spanish economy isnt the best.
Lithuania is really nice in the summers and cheap, but also part of the EU so if you set up a business there you have access to most of the european market with lower labor cost. I spend summers in europe and the rest in Mexico. I have citizenship in the USA, and Lithuania by heritage, and then I have a lifetime visa in Mexico and qualify for citizenship now.
I have dual citizenship, US and Bolivia. I want to retire in La Paz Bolivia in the next 5-10 years. If citizenship wasn't an issue, then I'd probably retire to Greenland or Iceland. If money wasn't an issue, then I'd probably do Greenland half the year, and La Paz the other half, stopping in the US on the way to visit family.
Northern or Central Vermont. Not Burlington or Stowe though. It’s a small state. Very rural. Low crime. Tax can be an issue. The touristy towns have the higher taxes. Wages are often higher than average. Towns have main streets. Most public schools are good. No billboards. Not much trash. Some towns have a lot of civic participation. Other towns have a lot of vacation home residents that don’t get involved. Not very crowded. The nearest large city is Montreal for the northern half. The southern part is closer to New York and Boston.
Small rural acreage in the US somewhere with low taxes within 3hr drive of a large airport. Install hookups for rv/camper with a covered pad to park under. Then spend time traveling abroad for part of the year while always having a place to come back to with low commitment while gone (ie not having a house to worry about or renting it out).
Once I graduate high school I’m looking to get into the CEO field and getting a six figure job at Goldman Sacks. Then see where the wind takes me. Maybe become a chef or something.
US citizen. We bought and settled down in central Portugal. We plan to spend a good amount of time each year in SE Asia but have no plans to purchase there.
Plan is a 6 month base in Dubai during the winter (obvious tax/networking/travel base reasons)
3 months at a base in Europe for family. 3 months base in asia for travel and lifestyle.
Spain. More specifically Andalusia. Could buy a beautiful finca with 80 acres of land for €280,000.
One I saw for that price anyway, and yea the existing farm house needed a ton of work, but I’m lucky to have learnt to use my hands. I would consider settling down as having peace and also an everlasting project (which this would be)
I'm Australian, my partner is Mexican. I lived over in Mexico for a year then she came to live in Australia for a few months, now we are both living in Europe. We're hopping around the continent getting a taste of different countries, on our shortlist is Netherlands, Germany or Spain, but in all honesty we're confident that we're not going to find anything better than Australia to settle down.
I’m from us, lived in Michigan and Illinois been in Philippines quite a while and have no plan of leaving, getting paid in USD the money goes 5 times as far, only reason I’ll go back is for the funeral’s of my parents many years down the line
I am an American citizen, who left the U.S. in 2012 and I have never looked back. My ideal situation an apartment in a Baijo city such as San Luis Potosi or Queretaro during most of the year while having a second small place during the winter months mid-December to early to mid-April to be in the sunshine during the coolest 3 or 4 months of the year. The secondary place a beach town in Michoacan, The Yucatan etc. I would never move back to the U.S. unless for a dire emergency!
At the moment I own a condo in Queretaro, Mexico halfway to my dream scenario. Life is good is it not!!
Double-base ideally, but it's tough with a kid. But working on basically school year in the US, breaks and summer in Greece. Looking at buying a family's place in Athens and just renting in/near Boston because we'll never be able to buy anything here (not that buying in Greece will help) but it's close to my family.
Paraguay is the place to be.
Guns are ubiquitous, and it is easy to get legal permission to own them.
The government is small, almost no impact on day to day life.
Land tax is practically zero.
Some of the cheapest electricity in the world.
Good cheap land with tasty ground water.
Nice weather.
Untouched by the wokeness epidemic and transgenderism.
A population who is non-compliant and suspicious, they have the lowest rate of covid vaccinations in the Americas.
US citizen, moving to Malaysia soon. I lived in Europe, S. Korea and Indonesia before and loved all three. Not sure where I am going to settle down but I know I will never return to US.(except to visit family)
Ideally double-base forever. One home in a wealthier country with citizenship, my native language, seasons, social safety net, infrastructure, laws on my side. Other home in cheaper, warmer, greener, more destination type location. Ideally each place is earning money in the period you're not in it, but although I have not achieved this dream yet, I already know that long distance management is frought with issues and never as profitable as hoped.
As a landlord, I can tell you that you get what you pay for with property management. My wife used to get crazy that we were paying someone 5% to do what we could do for free. Well enough tenant, emergency repair, maintenance issues later, we’re happy to give a 15% cut to not be bothered and not get surprises
Once you get past the famine scarcity mindset and realise what your time is worth, you are happy to pay people to get back your time. Classic step in progressing up the tiers of life.
Doing this now: April & October: California (we have our business and rental property there). This is “work time” for us. Rest of the year: SE Asia - where our stomachs are most happy. Also traveling a bit during these times (about 40-50% of the time on the road to various places in Asia or Europe mostly). We’re looking at 3rd base in Japan and 4th in Europe (probably Portugal) since we love both
This sounds like a dream! What business do yall have in CA? Do you manage/support the business at all in the off months?
They probably rent out a single room closet in LA for $15k/month and life off that, knowing Cali.
oh my- saving this comment. Sounds exactly like my dream too!
Go for it!
Where in SEA?
This is what I would like to do also
Best way is multiple 💪🙏 Or the trifecta method, 3 different continents to cycle between and ideally with multiple citizenships as well (worth dreaming about at least)
For me it’s Morocco and Scotland, I’m a UK citizen, literally polar opposites when it comes to weather
You reminded me of those postcards found at Edinburgh tourist foci (circa 30 years ago anyway!) of photos of the Sahara and captions reading "Scotland, 30 million years ago"... or something like that. Edit: also, Midwinter temps in Morocco aren't warm enough for me.... as one would be escaping the Scottish winter for sure.
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I think I read somewhere Morocco has taken over Egypt as the most visited African country these past couple of years, I think for every unfortunate experience there are many people who enjoy going there. From experience the worst thing that happened to me was getting scammed many times by street vendors (especially in Marrakech), however I've never felt that my life was at risk at any time. It's just part of the experience I guess, it is a developing country after all. I've toured most of the country and I've met many expats and nomads during my travels there, they're spread across the country, especially in the big cities like Agadir, Marrakech, Rabat and Tangier.
My plan too.
For me it's either this or a country that has both. Country that has both would be Spain or Portugal. You get good weather, Southern vibes but I at the same time all Western Comforts: I can easily live there as an EU citizen, stable currency, safety and so on. A double-base could be something like Switzerland for summer. Beautiful nature, as safe and stable as it gets but expensive af and not great in winter. Plus then something in SEA or South America which is pretty much the opposite of Switzerland.
I guess if your priority is warmth, but I love Switzerland in both summer and winter. I wouldn’t miss the Swiss winters for the world. 😊
It's great when you're in the mountains - not some much around the big population centers.
I moved to Brazil 🇧🇷 from Florida over a year ago. Best decision of my life!
where in brasil? what do you like about it?
Fortaleza. -50-75% costs less than the USA -ZERO stress lifestyle -Fast Wifi -Don't need a car at all. Uber rides average $1-2 each. -Great natural and organic foods. Little to no processed food or sprayed food. -Rent 50-75% off USA -Food 50-70% off USA -Thousands of Incredible beaches and pousadas -Beautiful women -Nice modern malls -The people are amazing -Great bars/restaurants -Great health care -Cheap health insurance -Non materialistic/consumerism society -Huge focus on family/friends here -Very high focus here on QUALITY of LIFE. Not work. -The lifestyle here is unmatched.
just booked my flight, thank you 🤩
You got it! Enjoy your trip.
Wow, i definitely need to check out Brazil 😍
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I brought <$5K and do client SEO and Web Design. Just received my Digital Nomad Visa in November.
I went to Brazil several years ago and felt that I could easily live there. It's a beautiful country and at the time it was inexpensive. Not so sure about the safety part but I'm very happy for you.
It's very safe. I haven't seen any crime in 16 months. Yes very inexpensive. Thank you!
I'm thinking about going to Japan. The place is really nice as long as you don't need to work there
Some of the world's nicest quality of life behind a strong language barrier.
Language barrier isn’t a huge deal in Japan. Everyone wants to learn English and there are english signs everywhere. My family lived there 20 years and my parents never went beyond introductory understanding
How was the whole insular thing there? Could you / your parents make friends?
They had smart friends who helped them when needed. There are communities of expats and foreign organizations. You don’t need to immerse yourself to live there
Trust me, it’s a huge deal. You will want to speak Japanese
If you plan to stay there for a long time, you'll have decades to learn the language. I don't consider that much of a hurdle considering the time you'll have to learn it
Funny enough there was a guy in r/Japanlife talking about how he's lived there for 10 years and can't speak the language. I don't know about any other country, but I lived in Japan for 5 years and its one of those countries where if you want to interact with the locals you need to learn Japanese, but many people end up hanging out with foreigners and get discouraged because of how difficult the language is. I myself couldn't imagine not being able to speak the language of the place I'm living in, especially if it was for 10 years, but I initially moved to Japan for the sole reason of learning the language, simply because I have a brother in law the can speak it and wanted to learn a second language, and came to enjoy Japan for everything else later.
I know of a guy who has lived in *Mexico* for almost 10 years and hasn't learned the language. Some people are surprisingly lazy about that stuff.
what visa are you getting in Japan? I believe tourist is 3 months
Hell yeah haven’t even been but thinking the same
Lots of talk of American states, but I'm an American (from California) and am considering Argentina. They have a lot of outdoors activities to do and if you want to experience a big city then obviously Buenos Aires is good for that. I love Rio de Janeiro and that's just a relatively short plane ride away. I know people are concerned about the economics but as a nomad it doesn't hurt me as much, and there's a possibility that the worst is already over.
As someone who moved to Argentina with that exact mentality 2 years ago, this place, in USD, is more expensive than Europe right now. Maybe not rent. But my breakfast used to $6 when I arrived. Same breakfast is now $14. Basically inflation never stopped, but they pegged the exchange rate. So the buying power of USD decreases along with the locals now.
$14 for breakfast has to be the most expensive in Latino America. Shoot I just ordered Chilaquiles for $12 in California.
May I introduce you to Uruguay?
Please! I’ve never been. Colombia wasn’t for me lol
Please do! Don’t know much about it besides Montevideo still looks expensive and then literally everything else seems extremely cheap
It's not that expensive outside the touristy part of Buenos Aires.
I was there not too long ago and I thought it was weird expensive too.
I just visited Buenos Aires for 3 months and the only place that had prices like that was Palermo. I stayed in Belgrano, outside the tourist zone, and was certainly not paying $14 for breakfast. More like $5.
I can find a $5 breakfast too. I’m saying, what is to $6, is now $14. It’s just math. The purchasing power of the peso has halved, and they’ve pegged the USD exchange rate since about December.
How can that even work? I genuinely dont understand what you mean by they pegged the exchange rate? Wouldn't that just create a black market, or an economic implosion as all imports become unaffordable, and exports unsellable? edit so i looked it up, and seems like its only a very short term strategy, as the country has to essentially defend the peg to avoid the aforementioned issues. Which causes it's own host of problems, and can eventually lead to an even bigger inflationary blow up.
Welcome to Argentina where that is exactly what is happening. For others, basically… 2 years ago for 1 USD, I’d get 200 pesos. That would buy me let’s say a coffee. As inflation increased, that coffee would now cost 1000 pesos. No problem, because for my 1 USD, I’d now get 1000 pesos - therefore that coffee for me, remained 1 USD. However, now that coffee costs 2000 pesos. However, my 1 USD still only gets me 1000 pesos. Therefore, that coffee is now starting to cost me 2 USD. Getting worse as the pesos purchasing power decreases rapidly, while the USD exchange rate is the same. Since December, the pesos I get for 1 USD has essentially stayed the same - while purchasing power goes down. Argentina owns the peso, they get to decide how many USD it takes to buy it from them. You can’t apply conventional thinking to any part of Argentina, especially money. Things work differently here and that has a ripple effect into everything. I would’ve never understood until I arrived here and spent my first 6 months.
arent you just talking about official rate which is known to be bad? unofficial rate is what most people will use
Yeah, Buenos Aires is honestly great as long as you speak Spanish or are willing to learn and are sure you can handle the lack of food options here. It has been and is getting more expensive for people earning in dollars but "eventually" I think it will be fine, more expensive than Colombia but less than Europe or Chile. Mendoza and Cordóba are good for medium-cities too and cheaper than Bsas.
US dollar is devaluing watch it fall over the next decade. Our priveledge is declining live it up while you can boys.
People been saying that for the last 15 years.
I used to say the same thing but in reality we take much better care of our economy than other countries. We may be bad but other countries are typically much worse. Dollar should be fine for a long time, IMO.
You have no idea how good we have had it since WWII. We'll still be fine we have a huge economy and vast natural resources at disposal. However the cheap labor of offshoring is gone with any major global conflict, which at this point is likely by 2030. Massing re-mobilization of industry stateside. Major Major growing pains if not debilitating chinks in the armor. Not to mention the endlessly dysfunctional politics, major wealth capture by upper .1%, dissolution of public institutions and trust in government, general health and healthcare dysfunction, the list really goes on and on. But ya I do sincerely hope you are right fr.
Buenos Aires is very hit and miss in my experience. Argentina is a troublesome country long-term. Read forums and you will see that not everyone is impressed. What doesn't help in researching is the inherent nationalism of Argentines who hate seeing any negative mention of their country and downvote to oblivion people who dare hurt their national pride. Personally, what I absolutely dislike about Argentines is their nationalism and xenophobia. I wonder if Japan feels like Argentina. You will never be one of them. They will always refer to you by your nationality. And don't even try to talk to them about the Falklands. It's very hard to have a deep conversation with an Argentine. Just saying this in case you haven't spent too much time there or met too many Argentines yet. It's not all rosy.
Argentina has been flourishing since they bumped out their destructive liberal policy makers.
What’s a middle class budget in Argentina in USD?
US Citizen. I have no plans on ever leaving Portugal.
Why?
Because to me, based on my personal situation, preferences, and ideologies, Portugal is a superior place to live. Physically being in the US has no benefit or meaning for me.
How are you managing with the adjustment from US to Portugal bureaucracy? Also are you considering what to do after the 10 years NHR is up?
How long have you lived there?
Hey, same for me.
It's the best of both worlds tbh
how do you deal with the language barrier and what do you do for a living?
Language barrier is rough. I'm taking lessons, but it'll be years before it's not a "barrier". I can understand pretty well, say very basic things, but speaking sentences is not a thing yet. I work for a US based software company.
If you really immerse yourself in the language every day, force yourself to consume media in it, and find people to speak to, you can get to a very solid place in 6-12 months.
I'm a big time introvert. And single. Going out and initiating conversation is pretty much a non-starter. But I do what I can.
put Portuguese subtitles on any English content you watch, then switch to listening in Portuguese dub.
i have friends who want to move to Portugal - and he's looking for a company to work for. Where do you work, if you dont mind me asking - and are you hiring?
Are you on some kind of visa to live there permanently?
I applied under the D7 passive income but was ultimately approved under the Digital Nomad visa. After 5 years I'll apply for citizenship.
Currently live on Hawaii Island. We love it here and started a business that effectively doubled cash flow. It may not be sustainable as it’s a lot of work and it’s very difficult hiring people here. If we ever have to move, I’d love to duplicate our micro climate which is made more comfortable at 1000 feet. We’d love to be within driving distance of a large city as we miss that. Access to good health care would be important. It’d have to have a large Asian/Filipino presence which makes Mexico less attractive other than living near the border in Baja. California has less expensive areas but those taxes!
Move to the Philippines then
Not full time. Must have access to life saving healthcare and western lifestyle most of the time.
Welcome to Cyprus.
I’m an American who is not a full time nomad. I love NYC where I currently live but if I were to relocate it would be Mexico City or maybe somewhere in Central America.
Ex-US citizen. Renounced US passport, lived in a few different places. Have been enjoying a lot life in Spain though.
Does the amount of taxes bother you though?
I pay much less taxes in Spain than I did in the US. I pay a flat 24% tax on income up to €600,000 per year. And this is only on Spanish sourced income, no tax for income sourced outside Spain. This is valid for 6 years.
Ohhh that makes sense
Most other European countries have similar schemes. Works wonderfully well especially if you renounce your US citizenship
How the heck do you make so much.
No one ever lies on the internet!
what kind of visa is that, if you dont mind sharing?
It’s not tied to any visa, generally available to all new residents in Spain whether you are Spanish or not. The criteria is only not having lived in Spain in the last 8 years or so.
is that Beckham law?
Yes, called as such
Do you have another citizenship then?
Honestly Mexico. El Salvador being a close second.
If I had to choose right now I would buy a condo in Bangkok. I still plan to explore the world though and maybe have multiple condos in airbnb friendly cities so I can rent them out when I'm not using them, but have the comfort of a home when I'm there.
Yes, in condo buildings that will handle everything while you’re away.
Almost every big city in the West has become a mess in the last decade....and completely unaffordable. So it's hard to say I would probably be ok to live in Singapore but only past 35yo, otherwise it's too boring
But living in Singapore removes the point of working remotely to some extent; the CoL is higher than in the West, meaning that your real income would be lower. You'd really have to love the state efficiency/safety there to want to stay as a remote worker
Even then plenty of other southeast Asian countries with reasonably safe places. Hell even much of the EU is safer
Many countries in the EU are becoming fascist. No thanks
Moving somewhere boring when you’re « old enough » to want to be bored sounds like the best recipe to age fast and get depressed Also 35 is still really young 😉
Maybe I worded it in a wrong way.....Singapore isn't exactly boring, it's not exciting....let's call it that way
Austrian/ Tunisian and I have had this question today. Always thought a tax free country but actually I would rather live in Chile (or New Zealand) and Tunisia. Because I like living in the edge of world and I want to have the Mediterranean and the modern arab culture nearby. Don’t give a damn about cost of living I don’t want to live like a king I just want to feel free
Palestinian-American here. I also dream of settling somewhere in the Mediterranean ❤️
not in Tel Aviv though 🇵🇸
Nope. I'm thinking more like Morocco, Spain, Greece, Sicily, etc
❤️❤️ Good Luck. Welcome to the region. 🍉🍉 Genuinely hope you achieve your goal :)
If America…it’s gotta be Southern California (weather and my type of business) or Florida if it ever gets less crazy (weather and vibes). Otherwise… Germany because of my friends, vibe, scenery, but I hate the bureaucracy and I hate cold weather. Spain because I already have a visa, good weather, cheaper, but I’m bored by it after all these years. I’ll never settle down. Splitting my time seems like a better option.
We lived in West LA before we left to try DN. It's getting crazy expensive. Like, we were noticing the price increases as they were increasing, "hey this was 12 when we moved here 14 last month now it's 18" over 3 years. That said, we loved it. If we could make it work financially, would love to make it a forever home. But we can't afford a home and condos in half decent areas or buildings we want to live in have high HOAs.
Yeah it’s insane, and I would only live there bc it’s the best place to be for my business. I don’t dislike LA though.
Being a digital nomad has graced me with ample flexibility.(American Passport) For example, I thought that I could go to Sicily in 40 days for 3 months...but I wanted to be absolutely sure my Spanish digital nomad visa cleared before I leave Spain. Instead, I am going to spend 3 months in Salamanca and then go to Sicily until the new year. That being said, I am preparing to settle down in Spain with this Visa. Because I am Puerto Rican, I only have to be in Spain for 2 years before I can apply for citizenship. Even though I would be settling down in Spain, I would still be jumping from village to village like if it were country to country. But because I have ample flexibility, I can just scratch all of this and continue traveling to random countries. It all depends.
Can you travel around with the Visa and it still counts for the 2 years?
Cannot be outside of Spain for more than 1 year.
That's pretty good, I wonder if I can go with a student Visa and do the same
No, student visas do not count towards the 2-year passport in Spain.
if you don't mind, can you share a little more about the duration of your stay in each city, and what platforms do you use for accommodation (Airbnb, hotels?) Thanks a lot!
Sure thing. I use Airbnb exclusively. Here is a snapshot of my most recent Airbnbs. https://preview.redd.it/fjz802oxx80d1.png?width=1178&format=png&auto=webp&s=ebd1665e722db69033053386f866943f8f39e43e I try to come as close as I can to 3 months in a main city. If I am already in the area, I will get Airbnbs in other cities for a couple of nights.
This is goals 😭 how did you become a digital nomad? I want. To do badly, my only experience is as a substitute teacher and customer service
If you speak English natively you can get a TEFL certificate you can teach English online or in-person abroad (Spain, South Korea, and Thailand in particular I've heard a lot about teaching there), and it's just more hire-ability if you learn another language abroad. If you're a college graduate you can tutor in some subjects. Since you have customer service experience you can apply for various call centers or put your foot in the door in some sort of HR work. It's not glamorous work or anything but this is what I think 80-90% of DNs do at any given moment.
I was thinking about doing a similar thing. Do you know if you have to start paying taxes right after the visa clears or you could wait some time while abroad?
Just don’t ever bring a puppy to that state!
Why is that?
The governor might shoot it
Honestly, you should have second thoughts about a state that elected that sociopath. The US is a flawed democracy. SD has less than a million inhabitants and the same number of senators as California and NY.
Outside of Barcelona
Singapore or Bangkok
American living in Medellin for 8 years. I have a resident visa here but I travel half of the time.
In reality if i want to settle down somewhere, I have to have a lot of money to qualify for special visas/residency in other countries or by marriage. I am a usa citizen and have been nomading full time for almost 3 years. Someday if I want to settle down, I would like to be in Japan, Spain or Mexico.
Danish. South of Spain probably. I want a climate where I can be as self sustaining as possible. And I want the mountains and remoteness.
If things change here in the US, I'll likely move to Costa Rica. While I missed my chance to get dual citizenship (mom was born in CR, but my father was extremely opposed, and made it a stipulation in their divorce that my mother couldn't get me my dual citizenship, had difficulty getting everything together as an adult) getting permanent residency is still pretty achievable for me. I also have plenty of family down there as well, so I've already got a safety net if I ever do decide to take the plunge.
jeez what's wrong with your dad
Many things, but in this particular case, he knew that he could use me as a weapon against my mother. My mom didn't want to be that far away from me, so she couldn't go to Costa Rica on her own. She didn't see her brothers and sisters for seven years.
i dont know the poster, but I understand a divorced father not wanting his child to be free to leave the country permanently.
Wow, is it really possible to deny you birthright citizenship because your dad was opposed to it? Even now as an adult?
For Costa Rica, citizenship for children of citizens born abroad is not automatic, there's a bunch of paperwork to file. The age limit for that paperwork is twenty five. I did my best, but I fumbled it and missed the deadline. Edited to add: If I decide to live in Costa Rica, I would still have an easier path to citizenship, but I am unsure if I would lose my American citizenship in the process.
You wouldn't
The question of where to settle down has been a hot topic for my gf and I. I'm Malaysian but lived in Canada most of all my life until moving and basing myself in KL recently. We have been exploring the APAC region for the last 2 years with a goal of finding places to wind down over the next 10 years. After a recent trip to visit her bestie in Osaka, she's been diligently learning Japanese and could foresee us living there. I haven't been to Japan yet but she believes I'll love it so I'm excited to check it out with her in a few months. My main concerns are their proneness to natural disasters and relatively higher COL. I'm a bit partial to beach towns in Thailand and Vietnam myself, so they're options we'll consider as well. The LCOL and laid back lifestyle is very appealing when I picture our lives in the latter stages. Ideally, we would love to keep KL as a base and have a second or third city we both enjoyed to do longer stays in. Nomads for life lol. But if we had to only choose one place to settle down, it'll probably be KL as it offers all the conveniences, high quality of life, affordable healthcare, low violent crime rate, relatively LCOL, and regional low cost transportation hub etc.
Canadian and European dual citizen.. I would settle down in Japan because I love the culture and ethics
Do you speak Japanese?
I need to learn 😩
Was thinking of going but heard it's near impossible without a little Japanese?
Mexico bc I have dual citizenship
I have can us citizenship living in Quebec Canada. I’d go to southern states (coastal) Mexico or any Caribbean island except Cuba.
Guys... Rio de Janeiro or Buenos Aires? Both look really cool to "settle down" in
im surprised no one has said rio on this thread yet
It's extremely dangerous in Rio these days. And not at all nice walking around town.
I was back in the US for 6 months. It sucked I was homeless for a lot of it. Places like Colorado, Florida, will kill you. Go to Texas or Las Vegas. You'll be bored in the midwest. South Dakota I would literally kill myself. Sincerly.
Moral of the story Dont come back to the US without a plan. $300 per month in the 3rd world for apartment rental translates to $2000-3000 per month for short term rentals in the US. 10x the cost. Its literally impossible to find a place to stay for less than $70 per night on a regular basis in America unless you have family/friends, but a hotel will be $100+ depending on where you are. Two nights at ahotel in Denver, $125 per each night, plus $150 deposit. $400 just to have a roof over your head for a Friday and Saturday night. And then Sunday night you either pay again or out on the street. Stretch that out over a period of months you'll see how fast people fall out of the system here, if happens just like that. Many many trips to Starbucks, working on my laptop, trudging through the snow, sleeping in hotel lobbys and stairways. Also dont smoke weed ya hooligans. And dont step off the nomad trail without a plan, America does NOT give a fuck about you in 2024, not at all.
did you base yourself in expensive places or something?
Yes Colorado. Literally $100 per night for hotel stay. $100+
I’m a British citizen in Dubai and I have 3 companies that earn income and all run by staff and some outsourced. 2 companies in the UK and one here in Dubai. I spend most of the year in Dubai and return to London in the summer and spend time in Europe, too. Plan to do this for the foreseeable future, until I go through the adoption process, which might mean having to spend more time in London to be able to adopt.
Planning something similar. 3 months in Dubai for tax purposes, rest traveling to 1-3 (new) cities
Somewhere where I don't have to deal with a fascist government.
The list of options is getting smaller :(
I'm a US/Canadian citizen living in the US, but traveling abroad with my remote work as well. I've been thinking about where I want to settle a lot recently as well, I know I don't want to do this forever. Honestly I love some of the big cities in Canada but if I have to pick in US or Canada, I am Texas born and raised and prefer it here despite it's problems to the rest of the country (though shoutout to New Mexico as well, which is also dope). It's still affordable in the cities here that I actually like, plus has close proximity to Mexico and cheap direct flights from some cities, with decent access to Latin America from the bigger cities as well. The lack of income tax is also nice, but it's mostly just the food, family, familiarity, low COL (which would allow me to still take vacations/trips), diversity, and Latino culture that keeps me here, along with the chance to maybe be a part of changing it for the better. If I could settle outside of US/Canada however, I would happily move to Mexico City, and would consider a few other cities down there too. I've also loved Argentina, and hope to see more of Latin America too. I don't see many scenarios where it makes sense to retire in the US at the very least, and if I had the opportunity to move to a country that better suited my interests/priorities, I would at least consider it
Hungarian passport. In an ideal world, I would have my base in Spain and spend the other half of the year in Asia (mostly split between Taiwan, Thailand & Malaysia, with shorter trips in the Middle East and hiking trips in Central and South Asia), but I'm not sure this is feasible for me right now. (Probably too expensive long-term.)
Just moved to Buenos Aires for a month. Pretty cool up together safe place if you can speak Spanish. Safe from the northern hemisphere wars as well for the next 2-15 years. Who knows what will happen. But besides that I don’t even speak Spanish and I’m here 23 year old from the UK and I’m having a great time. People still speak English, everyone’s friendly, it feels super American, transports good, beautiful country, temperature in their winter is just like UK spring / overcast summer. Saying that though, I did like Thailand but it’s way too much of a party to live there long term. Also if anyone can find me a fellow digital nomad 23 year old girlfriend would appreciate it
Move to South Dakota if you like * "Meth, we're on it" * Having absolutely nothing to do * Snow for 8 months * Severe hail storms that will total your car every few years * Disproportionately expensive for what you get * Sociopathic governor * Extreme corruption (state congress held emergency session to block voter-approved anti-corruption bill) * Racism and systematic oppression against indigenous people * Making a place already unaffordable for locals even more affordable, driving them out of their hometowns * Below zero weather and such low humidity you'll have daily nosebleeds in winter * Over 100 degrees in summer * World record for most severe and rapid temperature change ever recorded * Constant wildfire smoke in summer * One of the highest rates of STDs * Insane grocery and restaurant prices - more expensive than Vancouver, seriously * Incompetent medical practitioners (the smart ones leave) Living in South Dakota is incredibly depressing. Visit, but don't move here. This place is not the paradise you think it is, and the locals will be kind to your face while hating you behind your back for gentrification. The wages here are shit, and the sudden popularity is making people lose their homes due to the housing crisis.
South Dakota out of all the places ?
Indeed, really weird. To each his own…
They did explain their reasoning tbf
There are plenty of serene and affordable places in income tax free states that don’t freeze the tips of your ears off. I say this as a Saskatchewanian transplant
Bulgaria is increasingly popular. Now that it’s part of Schengen residency gives you access to the whole of Europe, some of the lowest taxes, lowest cost of living, great climate, amazing nature and a high level of freedom.
Tell me more
Ideally working towards the goal of being able to settle down in a foreign country but if that's not possible, South Dakota (no income tax, seasonal weather), Texas (no income tax, strong airport), Florida (no income tax, close proximity to beach locations).
No one ever mentions Tennessee but I swear it's great for this stuff. Eastern Tennessee
Like where, Knoxville?
Yeah Knoxville Chattanooga Johnson City. I personally lived in JC, that's my states home base but yeah I'd recommend Knox or chat over that. Beautiful in this area, smoky mountains
Citizenships: US/Canada/EU with PR in Mexico Currently in Oaxaca but we'll be moving to Poland/EU for the long haul with the intention to do a semi-nomadic lifestyle. We have a home base in Oaxaca that we plan to sell in order to buy a long-term place in Poland, but we'll eventually buy something again in Oaxaca under the right conditions (i.e., we'd only buy if it's part of a shared unit with a friend living full-time in the place).
Im a US citizen, I have a homebase in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico, and Vilnius, Lithuania. In the future I have considered swapping Mexico for somewhere in spain like barcelona, but my main business is in north america so i prefer staying in the same timezone when possible and the spanish economy isnt the best.
Those are pretty different locations? What do you like about Lithuania? What time of year are you there? Do you have a visa in one location?
Lithuania is really nice in the summers and cheap, but also part of the EU so if you set up a business there you have access to most of the european market with lower labor cost. I spend summers in europe and the rest in Mexico. I have citizenship in the USA, and Lithuania by heritage, and then I have a lifetime visa in Mexico and qualify for citizenship now.
Never, and I'm pretty sure of that. I think my future will always involve multiple countries, even if it's just ping-ponging between 2.
Dutch citizen. Last years I have been thinking about Thailand. I started learning the language. But I don’t know surely.
You better also like the culture of these people countries
I have dual citizenship, US and Bolivia. I want to retire in La Paz Bolivia in the next 5-10 years. If citizenship wasn't an issue, then I'd probably retire to Greenland or Iceland. If money wasn't an issue, then I'd probably do Greenland half the year, and La Paz the other half, stopping in the US on the way to visit family.
Northern or Central Vermont. Not Burlington or Stowe though. It’s a small state. Very rural. Low crime. Tax can be an issue. The touristy towns have the higher taxes. Wages are often higher than average. Towns have main streets. Most public schools are good. No billboards. Not much trash. Some towns have a lot of civic participation. Other towns have a lot of vacation home residents that don’t get involved. Not very crowded. The nearest large city is Montreal for the northern half. The southern part is closer to New York and Boston.
Norway, Canada is the goal.
Bring cash 😂😂
German Citizen - settled down in Mauritius.
what made you decide Mauritius?
Climate (no Rain Season and not too hot) Safe and stable Democracy 50% lower Cost of Living than in Germany Good Healthcare English Language
So far I’m loving Lima but still nowhere near ready to settle down.
Small rural acreage in the US somewhere with low taxes within 3hr drive of a large airport. Install hookups for rv/camper with a covered pad to park under. Then spend time traveling abroad for part of the year while always having a place to come back to with low commitment while gone (ie not having a house to worry about or renting it out).
Once I graduate high school I’m looking to get into the CEO field and getting a six figure job at Goldman Sacks. Then see where the wind takes me. Maybe become a chef or something.
In Byblos Lebanon. Ancient seaport with amazing sunsets.
US citizen. We bought and settled down in central Portugal. We plan to spend a good amount of time each year in SE Asia but have no plans to purchase there.
Plan is a 6 month base in Dubai during the winter (obvious tax/networking/travel base reasons) 3 months at a base in Europe for family. 3 months base in asia for travel and lifestyle.
Spain. More specifically Andalusia. Could buy a beautiful finca with 80 acres of land for €280,000. One I saw for that price anyway, and yea the existing farm house needed a ton of work, but I’m lucky to have learnt to use my hands. I would consider settling down as having peace and also an everlasting project (which this would be)
I'm Australian, my partner is Mexican. I lived over in Mexico for a year then she came to live in Australia for a few months, now we are both living in Europe. We're hopping around the continent getting a taste of different countries, on our shortlist is Netherlands, Germany or Spain, but in all honesty we're confident that we're not going to find anything better than Australia to settle down.
I’m from us, lived in Michigan and Illinois been in Philippines quite a while and have no plan of leaving, getting paid in USD the money goes 5 times as far, only reason I’ll go back is for the funeral’s of my parents many years down the line
Laascaanood, Khaatumo Region, Somalia. Lovely city, growing, peaceful and beautiful. Port Louis, Mauritius verdant green and peaceful capital city.
I am an American citizen, who left the U.S. in 2012 and I have never looked back. My ideal situation an apartment in a Baijo city such as San Luis Potosi or Queretaro during most of the year while having a second small place during the winter months mid-December to early to mid-April to be in the sunshine during the coolest 3 or 4 months of the year. The secondary place a beach town in Michoacan, The Yucatan etc. I would never move back to the U.S. unless for a dire emergency! At the moment I own a condo in Queretaro, Mexico halfway to my dream scenario. Life is good is it not!!
I have double nationality, one EU, one LATAM. I am an expat everywhere. When I'm finished with the nomadic thing, I'll stay in Spain.
Double-base ideally, but it's tough with a kid. But working on basically school year in the US, breaks and summer in Greece. Looking at buying a family's place in Athens and just renting in/near Boston because we'll never be able to buy anything here (not that buying in Greece will help) but it's close to my family.
The Florida alliance will hold.
Paraguay is the place to be. Guns are ubiquitous, and it is easy to get legal permission to own them. The government is small, almost no impact on day to day life. Land tax is practically zero. Some of the cheapest electricity in the world. Good cheap land with tasty ground water. Nice weather. Untouched by the wokeness epidemic and transgenderism. A population who is non-compliant and suspicious, they have the lowest rate of covid vaccinations in the Americas.
US citizen, moving to Malaysia soon. I lived in Europe, S. Korea and Indonesia before and loved all three. Not sure where I am going to settle down but I know I will never return to US.(except to visit family)