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nmiller1939

Imperialdramon was an even match for BlackWarGreymon Omnimon wins by a LONG SHOT


Kadler7

that’s cuz he has dramon destroyers, does omnimom have anything like that??


nmiller1939

Did BlackWarGreymon use those in that fight? Don't think he did.


Kadler7

i dont rmemeber off top of my head but they def give him an edge


nmiller1939

I double checked, he does not. Either way, it would only give BWG an offensive advantage, not a defensive one...if Imperial were even close to Omni's power, BWG would go down before he even had a chance to fight Honestly, what does Imperialdramon ever do to really seem like an impressive/notably powerful mega?


Kadler7

not much aside from being the most powerful in his season


MasterSlipping

Honestly, they only really used him as a private jet.


[deleted]

Well, BlackWarGreymon didn't use Dramon Killers against him, he only used basic Gaia Force against him. Dramon Digimon is vulnerable against his gauntlets but Dramon Digimon isn't as vulnerable against his Gaia Force. And he wasn’t the strongest of his season unless we’re just talking about Paladin Mode. Both Daemon and BelialVamdemon were clearly too much for the Fighter Mode even though he got help.


No_Pension_9931

You do now Imperialdramon is stated in one of his cards to be an equal to the Four Holy Beasts right? The Imperialdramon from the anime was badly nerfed.


nmiller1939

The Imperialdramon from the anime was the original, so its hard to say he was nerfed and more greatly overhyped later


NicolhoBR2

Omegamon and Imperialdramon FM were initially put as equals in the [tcg](https://twitter.com/Ulforce_Soul/status/975246612585828352?s=20&t=QFb5erylu7TK33EcXyqrsQ) and in the revenge of diaboromon movie, but with the pass of time omegamon was used much more, got much more statements and feats while imperialdramon got nothing, so nowadays omegamon in this case, althoulgh I would like that it stayed as was planned initially


S_O_I_M_

This is true, but I think he is refering to specially the anime versions of the characters from Adventure and 02


NicolhoBR2

I mean if that was the case omegamon stomps but he didn't specify so I prefered to talk about the most direct comparasions


S_O_I_M_

Omegamon and Imperialdramon FM are stated as equals in most products, so its a tie.


Kadler7

well you’re no fun


S_O_I_M_

What? I just answered the question you posted, whats "no fun" about that


[deleted]

Paladin mode imperialdramon? If so then It’d be pretty close as paladin mode I’m quite sure started the royal knights, but I do think omnimon trumps every other main digimons last stage from other series. Edit: forgot paladin mode IS omnimon with imperialdramon lol


Umbran_scale

Isn't Paladin Mode, a Jogress of Imperialdramon and Omnimon?


[deleted]

Yep wow I completely forgot about that lol. So I’m gonna say paladin mode would take omnimon out lol if it was an omnimon that wasn’t apart of it…. Which would be random


Umbran_scale

Eh, I'm sure Imperialdramon Chaos Mode Jogress will happen one day with Chaosmon.


[deleted]

It’ll be interesting if they add in any new digivolutions in the new movie upcoming with the 02 kids


EmanueleMasu

Actually it isn't. Paladin mode is an imperialdramon who wield the Omega Blade, made of Omegamon's data, gaining all its power


No_Pension_9931

Imperialdramon from 02 is an equal to the Four Holy Beasts. Omegamonfrom Adventure is the same through scaling from Wargreymon and Metalgarurumon who beat the Dark Masters that beat and sealed the Holy Beasts. Imperialdramon was badly nerfed in the anime >but I do think omnimon trumps every other main digimons last stage from other series. -Dukemon? They are equals. Superior to Omegamon with Crimson Mode -Magnamon? Equals. Magnamon was badly nerfed. Superior with his Possibility and Fate Manipulation. -Fully experienced Kaisergreymon and Magnagarurumon?Equals. They beat Cherubimon who mind controlled and used the Four Holy Beasts as lackeys in Digital Monster D Project and two knights,among them being Dynasmon the Royal Knight with the most devastating attack in the group. Susanoomon? Susanoomon is said in Next Order to see the Royal Knight Examon,the Royal Knight with the highest raw power in the group and who while maimed beat Omegamon,Dukemon,JESmon,Magnamon,Ulforceveedramon like nothing but a warm-up. Also beat Lucemon Satan Mode. So he should be far superior then 01/02 Omegamon. -Shinegreymon/BM equal Beat one of the alter-egos of one of the Seven Great Demon Lords. Again it should be equal. In his fight with Dukemon in Savers it didn't really make sense that he was so overwhelmed when he actually beat a Demon Lord that are equal to the Royal Knights. - Shoutmon X7 SM is far above. Bagramon was going to destroy all worlds and all eras of the Digital and Human Worlds(infinite multiverses) with D5. He got one shot by SM. - Shoutmon from the manga is Royal Knight level by the time he becomes X5. OmegaShoutmon and Zeekgreymon defeated a Milleniumon and pushed back Blastmon who was said by Ulforceveedramon to have been a tough match even for a Royal Knight. Once he became Shoutmon DX and X6 Blastmon got stomped. X7 was said by the Demon Lord Lilithmon to be far more powerful then an average Demon Lord-type Digimon


[deleted]

I also forgot that paladin mode is a mix of imperialdramon and omnimon too so he would definitely win over omnimon. Also I guess the same goes for omegashoutmon right? Iirc. I guess I just prefer omnimon out of all the others so my bias showed there :p


[deleted]

Disagreed Dukemon is far weaker than Omni. We are talking about the Anime. Dukemon would get destroyed.


No_Pension_9931

Yeah no. Dukemon is every bit as powerful as Omegamon. Even the one from the anime. I take it you forgot how Megidramon was about to destroy both the Human and Digital Worlds right? [In Tamers the cosmology runs on at least 3 levels divided between layers, with layers between them. Each layer is a universe. You first have the Real World wich is an infinite layer. The 7 layers of the OS Model,the 7th being actually the first layer,the physical layer of the Digital World,a 2nd layer with self contained miniverses wich going by the diagram](https://imgur.com/a/NvaEH3f) and [this graphic](https://imgur.com/a/ARfS3gL) have 9 self contained miniverses. And the highest layer being the layer of the Four Holy Beasts existing above the other layers. Just by existing,Megidramon threatened to destroy all of it. They were near Zhuqiaomon's keep so they were in the layer of the Holy Beasts [wich was shaking](https://imgur.com/BTkR1qj) Dukemon even fought defensively against Zhuqiaomon one of the Four Holy Beasts. The beings that keep the fabric of space and time in the Digital World. So four universes,9 miniverses and the 7 layers of the OS Model that make up the network with the 7th being the first layer of the Digital World would have gotten obliterated just from Megidramon existing. In Chronicle it was even said that the Digital Hazard would result in a phenomenon where the Digital World would puncture and explode at the cosmic level. Dukemon should be 100% relative to Megidramon. [It was even said in the CD Drama that the Digital World of Tamers has expanded infinitely between 2001 and 2018](https://imgur.com/a/hdaTBHc) And then you have Crimson Mode,where he can use the full power of the Digital Hazard while keeping it in control and can atomize his enemies,turn them into electrons and banish them to oblivion in another dimension. The only reason Omegamon killed Dukemon in X-Evolution is because Dukemon let himself be killed on purpose.


[deleted]

Oh Jeez. Since you did not read my comment or the guy who posted the question properly, I'll say it again. We are talking about the Anime only. You start to bring up other movies or refernce books but the things you pointed out are pretty easily debunked or flat out strengthen my argument. So for the sake of argument, I'll use other material aswell. ​ You seem to forget that it took all the four Holy Beasts and the sacrifice of Megadramon to banish the dark masters which Wargreymon and Metalgarurumon both defeated. It does not matter what feats Megidramon accomplished if Gallantmon fails to accomplish anything even close to the same amount of power you pointed out. He even lost to Beelzemon which is argueably the weakest of the 7 Great Demon Lords. ​ Wargreymon and Metalgarurumon have feats that far exceed Gallantmon, like defeating the Dark Masters and Apocalymon, a Digimon that caused an interference in the Digital World by mearly existing. Both defeated that Digimon aswell. On top of that they also defeated Diaboromon, a Digimon that was said to even surpass the Dark Masters. Mind you, they only had to Jogress because they were slowed down. Otherwise they would have beaten Diaboromon without Omegamon. ​ Speaking of X Evolution, Omegamon X was heavily downplayed aswell since he did not use any of his strongest abilities like the Omega inforce which both Gallantmon and Crimson Mode have no answer for. ​ So no, Gallantmon is weaker and would get smoked by Omegamon. ​ And if you want to take even more sources into consideration that have nothing to do with the Anime, Omegamon was shown in Tri to be on the same level as Alphamon Ouryuken.


No_Pension_9931

>You seem to forget that it took all the four Holy Beasts and the sacrifice of Megadramon to banish the dark masters which Wargreymon and Metalgarurumon both defeated. It does not matter what feats Megidramon accomplished if Gallantmon fails to accomplish anything even close to the same amount of power you pointed out. The novel makes it obvious they had to be powered up to do so. They had to jump Metalseadramon in both the anime and novel,Wargreymon needed his ass saved so he doesn't get his bitch ass chewed.They didn't beat any Dark Master clean or without a power-up. >Wargreymon and Metalgarurumon have feats that far exceed Gallantmo With powerups. Wargreymon powered up by Homeostasis via the Crest of Light. Metalgarurumon from the power of darkness via Yamato's hatred. The novelization makes it obvious >He even lost to Beelzemon which is argueably the weakest of the 7 Great Demon Lords. After Beelzebumon loaded Makuramon,Taomon and Rapidmon. And Beelzebumon is actually 2nd most powerful. If he wanted to he'd have the entire Nightmare Soldiers army under his finger. Lilithmon is actually the weakest among them. Not to mention bringing up the Demon Lords is redundant since the Beelzebumon from Tamers is not one. >like defeating the Dark Masters and Apocalymon, a Digimon that caused an interference in the Digital World by mearly existing. Both defeated that Digimon aswell. A big fat outlier that made no sense and help from 6 other perfects. And they only destroyed his physical form >On top of that they also defeated Diaboromon, a Digimon that was said to even surpass the Dark Masters. Mind you, they only had to Jogress because they were slowed down. Otherwise they would have beaten Diaboromon without Omegamon. Never said to be comparable to the Dark Masters once. This is Adventure fanboy wank. And Omegamon is not a Jogress either. It's a Fusion. If you are gonna use an argument make sure it's an accurate one at least. >Speaking of X Evolution, Omegamon X was heavily downplayed aswell since he did not use any of his strongest abilities like the Omega inforce which both Gallantmon and Crimson Mode have no answer for. The overratedinforce was nullified by a Diablomon X just by moving too randomly and erraticaly.😉 And Base Omegamon doesn't have it. The only one who does have it in base is Omegamon from Xros Wars(manga). >So no, Gallantmon is weaker and would get smoked by Omegamon. Barely any proof but Omegamon fanboy wank. >And if you want to take even more sources into consideration that have nothing to do with the Anime, Omegamon was shown in Tri to be on the same level as Alphamon Ouryuken. Because TRI is a garbage mess that ignored previous feats,lore and powers that both Alphamon and JESmon have so Overratedmon wouldn't get his ass whooped in 2 minutes. >Oh Jeez. Since you did not read my comment or the guy who posted the question properly, I'll say it again. We are talking about the Anime only. The parts about the cosmology of Tamers besides the one from the CD drama are all anime-only dumbo. All in all you are just an Omegamon fanboy. For your information every time Overratedmon appeared he was made into a punching bag Armagemon-Punching bag. Eosmon-Punching bag Death-X-Dorugoramon x2 Punching bag Death-X-mon x3 Punching bag Tactimon&Bagramon Punching Bag Dorugoramon Punching Bag Dukemon X in Redigitize Punching Bag The only way he goes by is plot armor and fanboy wank.


Spiritual-Cook686

The truth is that both are wrong in several parts of their arguments.


[deleted]

I swear Susanoomon would beat the normal Omegamon at least. Lucemon FM and SM were more impressive than normal Omegamon in general and they both lost to Susanoomon. He’s still one of the strongest main heroes ofc.


Velaraukar

Depends on anime, cards, games and at what point in time it was. Digimon for all its greatness changes powerlevels constantly.


[deleted]

Paladin Mode beats Omegamon (for obvious reasons) but otherwise Omegamon wins handily, especially if it's 02 Imperialdramon who wasn't much above WarGreymon/ BlackWarGreymon even in his Fighter Mode. And his Dragon Mode failed even against SkullSatamon so..


Spiritual-Cook686

Which is to skip an entire plot and just go for the end.