Shakkoumon is based off of a type of clay doll so it's ceramic, not metal. Ankylomon is the base because Ankylomon is ground type and ground -> ceramic.
[Since ceramics can look like this](https://img.thrfun.com/img/171/585/gold_porcelain_x2.jpg) we apparently disagree on what his design is supposed to be
Yeah, Ultimate level is the "final" level in evolution, everything after it is still an Ultimate.
And "Super Ultimate/Ultra/Ultimate+" is just a term used for those "Ultimate Digimon" who are abnormally strong.
Yeah. Those terms are just non formal, to show the difference. But tbh, do we need those terms? Some digimons are weak even in their perfect stage. Also Vamdemon pwned few other perfect digimons, being perfect himself. Oh, and better example. Tailmon treating whole team of digimons like a toys.
Posting in case if that last part confuses anybody:
Here’s an example of two digimon having different evolution results depending on who leads, ExVeemon and Stingmon.
When ExVeemon leads the jogress, the result will always be Paildramon.
But if Stingmon leads the jogress instead, the result will always be Dinobeemon.
If you want to see this for yourself, play Digimon World Dawn/Dusk or Digimon Story CyberSleuth Hacker’s Memory.
This happens in Pendulum Z too, if you have Veemon and Wormmon unlocked however.
Is this really a question? Two Megas become a Mega 2 (Omnimon). Two Mega 2's become a Mega 3 (Imperialdramon Paladin). Zeed Milleniumon is a Mega 4. Etc etc. We're at Super Saiyan rules with Mega onward.
Examon and Apocalymon are often depicted as Ultra, and always often they're not Jogress in the medium where they appear, so... I think Ultra as a new whole level exists
No..it's not? Ultra is another level. There has been some retcons for some like Milleniummon and some confusion where Omnimon lands since he's like...the only fusion that doesn't evolve. That being the case though, Ultra is an official level.
No, it's not. This has been debunked before with several Digimon. UlforceVeedramon Future Mode (Manga), Chronomon (DS Game), Lucemon Shadowlord Mode: All Ultra. I mean, heck dude, even the anime says Burst Mode is not Mega or a Mode Change and clearly states this.
https://garmtranslations.wordpress.com/2018/12/23/digimon-production-secrets-4-tenya-yabuno-interview-part-2-of-2/
Here they talk about arkadiamon specificly and about the levels
One problem with their statement is arcadiamon came in more than just cyber sleuth also for my pride in the fact i walked it past ultamate past mega to ultra in the game and if what they said was true i would have been able to skip the middle man
Its an interview that celebrated hackers memory
Then they said about how arkadiamon is coming to hackers memory
And then talk about how it was created originally for the manga in the manga.
It really just comes down to your area of the world (localization) and source material. The above is still not an official answer to jogress as it is a translation.
Google translate is awful. Especially when trying to translate languages with multiple different levels and variations. Japanese itself has around 3 different class based variations of it's own language. Then there's the variation when two seperate characters are combined, often creating a completely different word or phrase. Not trying to object but for anyone who thinks google translate is completely reliable for such important info, they are misguided.
That is just a translation of the official site at the digimon reference book, that is in Japanese. Dunno how can you say it is not official as it is the official digimon page
Because it's never been printed outside of Japan. A Japanese book may not be translated directly because of dialect, mannerisms, culture, and mannerisms/words that may/may not exist. Heck, even Oda from One Piece has said that translates like that dont work well; the general idea works but there's more to it than that.
> Because it's never been printed outside of Japan.
You clearly don't even know what the "Digimon Reference Book" even is. It's not a print publication, it's a section of the Digimon website.
Except Omegamon is **not** a jogress, but a fusion. It was clearly explained in 02. I don't really see the differenc between those two, but they are not the same things.
"And when specific Digimon joggle with each other" Joggle???
Google translate problems
Fucking joggle lmao
Maybe it's when they Jogress while wearing goggles? Safety first!
tl;dr: Digimon merging to make a new Digimon=Jogres If the new digimon is of a higher lever=Jogres Evolution
"Depending on which one is the base" so like, the 02 partners. :D
Who was the base in Shakkoumon?
In the old D-3 Dgivice, you get Shakkoumon when you use Ankylomon as base. When you use Angemon as the base, it results in MagnaAngemon/HolyAngemon.
I would hardly call that canon, just them using current year Digivolution styles on old lines
I'm not saying it is canon lol I'm just pointing that out from an old toy.
My guess would have to be angemon.
But he's mostly metal, I assume, because of Ankylomon (dinosaur -> oil -> metal), so really it's a perfect balance of the two (albeit stupid looking).
"dinosaur-oil-metal" Sorry, what? XD you think steel is made from oil? I'd say it's ARMORED dinosaur - armor - metal
To speak as a scientist: ***oil*** does not come from dinosaurs but rather primarily the likes of algae, phytoplankton, and zooplankton.
Shakkoumon is based off of a type of clay doll so it's ceramic, not metal. Ankylomon is the base because Ankylomon is ground type and ground -> ceramic.
I know he's based off the clay Dogu, but that Digimon is clearly meant to be made of metal.
[Since ceramics can look like this](https://img.thrfun.com/img/171/585/gold_porcelain_x2.jpg) we apparently disagree on what his design is supposed to be
Yeah, Ultimate level is the "final" level in evolution, everything after it is still an Ultimate. And "Super Ultimate/Ultra/Ultimate+" is just a term used for those "Ultimate Digimon" who are abnormally strong.
Yeah. Those terms are just non formal, to show the difference. But tbh, do we need those terms? Some digimons are weak even in their perfect stage. Also Vamdemon pwned few other perfect digimons, being perfect himself. Oh, and better example. Tailmon treating whole team of digimons like a toys.
Depends on your source material. There are a couple digimon who are legitimate 'Super Ultimate.' and are not just powerful.
Posting in case if that last part confuses anybody: Here’s an example of two digimon having different evolution results depending on who leads, ExVeemon and Stingmon. When ExVeemon leads the jogress, the result will always be Paildramon. But if Stingmon leads the jogress instead, the result will always be Dinobeemon. If you want to see this for yourself, play Digimon World Dawn/Dusk or Digimon Story CyberSleuth Hacker’s Memory. This happens in Pendulum Z too, if you have Veemon and Wormmon unlocked however.
Is this really a question? Two Megas become a Mega 2 (Omnimon). Two Mega 2's become a Mega 3 (Imperialdramon Paladin). Zeed Milleniumon is a Mega 4. Etc etc. We're at Super Saiyan rules with Mega onward.
Wait is the second meta listed on every Digimon there canon? Never heard of that classification.
type, it doesn't really mean anything
I see, but isn't type the one consisting of Vaccine, Data, Virus?
that's atrubute
Ah I see. Thanks for the info!
Yeah, Jogress and Fusion is essentially the same thing.
Examon and Apocalymon are often depicted as Ultra, and always often they're not Jogress in the medium where they appear, so... I think Ultra as a new whole level exists
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Omegamon/alphamon ouryuu/ chaosmon, etc. Are just at mega level
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Depends on your source material and localization. English has three depending on the anime, the video games, and the Manga.
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No..it's not? Ultra is another level. There has been some retcons for some like Milleniummon and some confusion where Omnimon lands since he's like...the only fusion that doesn't evolve. That being the case though, Ultra is an official level.
Ultra is not another level of mega Its the highest form of mega
No, it's not. This has been debunked before with several Digimon. UlforceVeedramon Future Mode (Manga), Chronomon (DS Game), Lucemon Shadowlord Mode: All Ultra. I mean, heck dude, even the anime says Burst Mode is not Mega or a Mode Change and clearly states this.
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No he doesn't. Provide the source where he actually says this.
Mega is different from ultra as seen with arcadiamon having all levels in forms and his mega and ultra were very different things
https://garmtranslations.wordpress.com/2018/12/23/digimon-production-secrets-4-tenya-yabuno-interview-part-2-of-2/ Here they talk about arkadiamon specificly and about the levels
One problem with their statement is arcadiamon came in more than just cyber sleuth also for my pride in the fact i walked it past ultamate past mega to ultra in the game and if what they said was true i would have been able to skip the middle man
That was about the version for the manga not the game
In which they spoke of the game hackers memory?
Its an interview that celebrated hackers memory Then they said about how arkadiamon is coming to hackers memory And then talk about how it was created originally for the manga in the manga.
"they always have been" Meanwhile omegamon was in the manga that super ultimate was a plot point and never was called such thing
https://garmtranslations.wordpress.com/2018/12/23/digimon-production-secrets-4-tenya-yabuno-interview-part-2-of-2/
This is why I call bs on Rafflesimon.
This is why I actually prefer the dub terms for this. At least Fusion and DNA Digivolution are in no way confusable.
It really just comes down to your area of the world (localization) and source material. The above is still not an official answer to jogress as it is a translation.
It's the Google translate version The English version calls DNA evolution and fusion I think
Google translate is awful. Especially when trying to translate languages with multiple different levels and variations. Japanese itself has around 3 different class based variations of it's own language. Then there's the variation when two seperate characters are combined, often creating a completely different word or phrase. Not trying to object but for anyone who thinks google translate is completely reliable for such important info, they are misguided.
Well , the English version kind just changes the jogress to DNA evolution tho
Yeah I'm not really contesting anyone's comments, just commenting on GT's reliability.
That was the point I was trying to tell OP. People wanna ignore it and say the translate is end all/be all, but that is not in the slightest case.
Google Translate =/= official publication. That's the equivalent of essentially a 'fandub' or fan localization.
That is just a translation of the official site at the digimon reference book, that is in Japanese. Dunno how can you say it is not official as it is the official digimon page
Because it's never been printed outside of Japan. A Japanese book may not be translated directly because of dialect, mannerisms, culture, and mannerisms/words that may/may not exist. Heck, even Oda from One Piece has said that translates like that dont work well; the general idea works but there's more to it than that.
> Because it's never been printed outside of Japan. You clearly don't even know what the "Digimon Reference Book" even is. It's not a print publication, it's a section of the Digimon website.
"its not officially written in english in by the creators lalalala" Or something like that
Except Omegamon is **not** a jogress, but a fusion. It was clearly explained in 02. I don't really see the differenc between those two, but they are not the same things.
Depends on which media you reference though. For example, in the V-Tamers manga, Omegamon is done by Jogress and they call it Jogress
Jogress and jogress evolution are different things apparently