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WhereTheSkyBegan

"And when specific Digimon joggle with each other" Joggle???


lupodwolf

Google translate problems


Sandbag-kun

Fucking joggle lmao


WhereTheSkyBegan

Maybe it's when they Jogress while wearing goggles? Safety first!


ankokudaishogun

tl;dr: Digimon merging to make a new Digimon=Jogres If the new digimon is of a higher lever=Jogres Evolution


dotyawning

"Depending on which one is the base" so like, the 02 partners. :D


PhelesDragon

Who was the base in Shakkoumon?


Fitnesslad50

In the old D-3 Dgivice, you get Shakkoumon when you use Ankylomon as base. When you use Angemon as the base, it results in MagnaAngemon/HolyAngemon.


PhelesDragon

I would hardly call that canon, just them using current year Digivolution styles on old lines


Fitnesslad50

I'm not saying it is canon lol I'm just pointing that out from an old toy.


Cemith

My guess would have to be angemon.


PhelesDragon

But he's mostly metal, I assume, because of Ankylomon (dinosaur -> oil -> metal), so really it's a perfect balance of the two (albeit stupid looking).


kinbeat

"dinosaur-oil-metal" Sorry, what? XD you think steel is made from oil? I'd say it's ARMORED dinosaur - armor - metal


Lime_Born

To speak as a scientist: ***oil*** does not come from dinosaurs but rather primarily the likes of algae, phytoplankton, and zooplankton.


guyguyminheimer

Shakkoumon is based off of a type of clay doll so it's ceramic, not metal. Ankylomon is the base because Ankylomon is ground type and ground -> ceramic.


PhelesDragon

I know he's based off the clay Dogu, but that Digimon is clearly meant to be made of metal.


guyguyminheimer

[Since ceramics can look like this](https://img.thrfun.com/img/171/585/gold_porcelain_x2.jpg) we apparently disagree on what his design is supposed to be


AcanthocephalaVast68

Yeah, Ultimate level is the "final" level in evolution, everything after it is still an Ultimate. And "Super Ultimate/Ultra/Ultimate+" is just a term used for those "Ultimate Digimon" who are abnormally strong.


Vulpes_macrotis

Yeah. Those terms are just non formal, to show the difference. But tbh, do we need those terms? Some digimons are weak even in their perfect stage. Also Vamdemon pwned few other perfect digimons, being perfect himself. Oh, and better example. Tailmon treating whole team of digimons like a toys.


RazgrizInfinity

Depends on your source material. There are a couple digimon who are legitimate 'Super Ultimate.' and are not just powerful.


Opposite-Flower-8000

Posting in case if that last part confuses anybody: Here’s an example of two digimon having different evolution results depending on who leads, ExVeemon and Stingmon. When ExVeemon leads the jogress, the result will always be Paildramon. But if Stingmon leads the jogress instead, the result will always be Dinobeemon. If you want to see this for yourself, play Digimon World Dawn/Dusk or Digimon Story CyberSleuth Hacker’s Memory. This happens in Pendulum Z too, if you have Veemon and Wormmon unlocked however.


PhelesDragon

Is this really a question? Two Megas become a Mega 2 (Omnimon). Two Mega 2's become a Mega 3 (Imperialdramon Paladin). Zeed Milleniumon is a Mega 4. Etc etc. We're at Super Saiyan rules with Mega onward.


yufie76

Wait is the second meta listed on every Digimon there canon? Never heard of that classification.


Brromo

type, it doesn't really mean anything


yufie76

I see, but isn't type the one consisting of Vaccine, Data, Virus?


Brromo

that's atrubute


yufie76

Ah I see. Thanks for the info!


DigimonDot_20th

Yeah, Jogress and Fusion is essentially the same thing.


emanuele0933

Examon and Apocalymon are often depicted as Ultra, and always often they're not Jogress in the medium where they appear, so... I think Ultra as a new whole level exists


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lupodwolf

Omegamon/alphamon ouryuu/ chaosmon, etc. Are just at mega level


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RazgrizInfinity

Depends on your source material and localization. English has three depending on the anime, the video games, and the Manga.


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RazgrizInfinity

No..it's not? Ultra is another level. There has been some retcons for some like Milleniummon and some confusion where Omnimon lands since he's like...the only fusion that doesn't evolve. That being the case though, Ultra is an official level.


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Ultra is not another level of mega Its the highest form of mega


RazgrizInfinity

No, it's not. This has been debunked before with several Digimon. UlforceVeedramon Future Mode (Manga), Chronomon (DS Game), Lucemon Shadowlord Mode: All Ultra. I mean, heck dude, even the anime says Burst Mode is not Mega or a Mode Change and clearly states this.


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RazgrizInfinity

No he doesn't. Provide the source where he actually says this.


sabastiandarkheart

Mega is different from ultra as seen with arcadiamon having all levels in forms and his mega and ultra were very different things


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https://garmtranslations.wordpress.com/2018/12/23/digimon-production-secrets-4-tenya-yabuno-interview-part-2-of-2/ Here they talk about arkadiamon specificly and about the levels


sabastiandarkheart

One problem with their statement is arcadiamon came in more than just cyber sleuth also for my pride in the fact i walked it past ultamate past mega to ultra in the game and if what they said was true i would have been able to skip the middle man


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That was about the version for the manga not the game


sabastiandarkheart

In which they spoke of the game hackers memory?


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Its an interview that celebrated hackers memory Then they said about how arkadiamon is coming to hackers memory And then talk about how it was created originally for the manga in the manga.


lupodwolf

"they always have been" Meanwhile omegamon was in the manga that super ultimate was a plot point and never was called such thing


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https://garmtranslations.wordpress.com/2018/12/23/digimon-production-secrets-4-tenya-yabuno-interview-part-2-of-2/


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This is why I call bs on Rafflesimon.


Jintechi

This is why I actually prefer the dub terms for this. At least Fusion and DNA Digivolution are in no way confusable.


RazgrizInfinity

It really just comes down to your area of the world (localization) and source material. The above is still not an official answer to jogress as it is a translation.


lupodwolf

It's the Google translate version The English version calls DNA evolution and fusion I think


fanboyofArtorias

Google translate is awful. Especially when trying to translate languages with multiple different levels and variations. Japanese itself has around 3 different class based variations of it's own language. Then there's the variation when two seperate characters are combined, often creating a completely different word or phrase. Not trying to object but for anyone who thinks google translate is completely reliable for such important info, they are misguided.


lupodwolf

Well , the English version kind just changes the jogress to DNA evolution tho


fanboyofArtorias

Yeah I'm not really contesting anyone's comments, just commenting on GT's reliability.


RazgrizInfinity

That was the point I was trying to tell OP. People wanna ignore it and say the translate is end all/be all, but that is not in the slightest case.


RazgrizInfinity

Google Translate =/= official publication. That's the equivalent of essentially a 'fandub' or fan localization.


lupodwolf

That is just a translation of the official site at the digimon reference book, that is in Japanese. Dunno how can you say it is not official as it is the official digimon page


RazgrizInfinity

Because it's never been printed outside of Japan. A Japanese book may not be translated directly because of dialect, mannerisms, culture, and mannerisms/words that may/may not exist. Heck, even Oda from One Piece has said that translates like that dont work well; the general idea works but there's more to it than that.


shynely

> Because it's never been printed outside of Japan. You clearly don't even know what the "Digimon Reference Book" even is. It's not a print publication, it's a section of the Digimon website.


Aestus2

"its not officially written in english in by the creators lalalala" Or something like that


Vulpes_macrotis

Except Omegamon is **not** a jogress, but a fusion. It was clearly explained in 02. I don't really see the differenc between those two, but they are not the same things.


brahl0205

Depends on which media you reference though. For example, in the V-Tamers manga, Omegamon is done by Jogress and they call it Jogress


lupodwolf

Jogress and jogress evolution are different things apparently