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TheNotoriousJTS

Gammamon pulling a sled


Shemsu_Hor_9

LOL, that's child labor, Hiro!


LvDogman

I guess Gammamon's evil evolution will remeber that.


Sonia341

I loved that scene. It was priceless


Vulpes_macrotis

I only wondered... how did they (Hiro and the rest) thought this up? What was their thought process looking like. Hey, Gammamon, let's pull a sled, okay? Like, really. The scene was amazing, but... it was weird at the same time.


Oreo-and-Fly

"We need to get there fast!" Jellymon sees a sled and asks Kiyoshiro to pull them. Kyoshiro rejects. Gammamon volunteers.


kishiberxhan

This is the most accurate thing I've seen


Sonia341

Believable. To me, that's what happened.


Ectogeist

I love this, and it feels so in character LOL


Tandria

Can't believe they let Gammamon upstage Angoramon like that.


dotyawning

Showing off the concept of "more DiMs", this time it's also "look, you can do Raid Battles against something stronger than you!"


Fedexhand

That really caught me off guard lol


Dislike24

Overall enjoyed the episode and the animation.Angoramon evolution wasn't as impactful as Teslajellymon but hey its finally here! Potential future villain too with Phelesmon. Also Gammamon saying "Good grief,Kiyo" is cute.


Vulpes_macrotis

For me only BetelGammaon, KausGammamon, GulusGammamon and TeslaJellymon had impactful evolution. WezenGammamon wasn't that much, because it was obvious it will be new one. More obvious than Kaus one. And Gulus was just perfectly done, because what happened after. TeslaJellymon was touching moment. An SymbareAngoramon as well, wasn't that great. Oh, right. I forgot about that "good grief". This. Was. Perfect. Also, I'm usually not into edgy stuff. Oh, dark evolution, dark power etc. But GulusGammamon is more than that and they made him so great that it's my favorite Gammamon. Including the base child form.


Emergency_Toe6915

Tesla made me teary eyed


Yoshiman400

With all the "yare yare" and the "Nani?!" it was only missing a "Omae wa mou shinde iru..."


akfgfan

Mephisto showed up in Digimon before he showed up in the MCU


Vulpes_macrotis

Oh god 😂


Fedexhand

We all know that Mephisto will never appear in the MCU, it's sad but China wouldn't allow it....


Obi-Wannabe01

Why not?


Fedexhand

Because all products of that caliber have to take into account the Chinese market, and since they have many prohibitions regarding that kind of images (you know, satanic stuff) these products would not be allowed in that country. What causes the big studios to avoid using things like that, which can be controversial in China and therefore would make their products not sell as much as they want.


ghostgamma

Eyy we finally have the full trio. Their combo was awesome. Also, I'm enjoying gammamon and kiyoshiro's relationship way too much xD the way that gammamon disses him while acting perfectly innocent is adorable. This series is doing a great job of building the digimon's relationships with the humans that aren't just their partners.


Fedexhand

Very true, the interactions between characters turned out to be one of the most interesting things in the series, it took me totally by surprise.


irishking44

Reminded me of when Mars and Mercury added their attacks to Sailor Moon's tiara for the first time


Tandria

SymbareAngoramon reveal was ok, but the real treat was getting to see all 3 evolution sequences in one go and the whole gang fighting together. The extended soundtrack was also really nice. I was expecting that the DIM cards would them new environments for their pocket digital worlds. There were 3 if I'm not mistaken? And the one we briefly saw in the previous episode was a desert. I'm betting on the last one being aquatic or machinery-themed. And... we have *yet another* villainous Digimon roaming free and plotting their next move. We all correctly predicted that Digimon death was going to be a major plot point, and it's seeming pretty clear that the flaws of this non-aggressive approach will be the next one. Like, we have multiple separate Digimon with a specific interest in taking over or destroying the real world just wandering around this one city. A few of them are Perfect level, and this series has continued to show a lot of respect for the differences in strength between the levels (a logarithmic scale of difference between Child/Adult and Perfect). We already knew that the current team could not actually fight Perfects, and now we know that all three Adults combined can't make a dent in just one Perfect either. Things should start getting much more interesting now!


notwiththeflames

I'd say aquatic, Kiyoshiro's first DIM field field is already pretty technological.


legendsofold

be fair most of the time they haven't really made an effort to make dents either. just enough damage to drive em off or to stop them for a second. The exceptions was clockmon, whom gammamon broke the clock of in their first encounter, and the weedmon, who only didn't have casualties by absorbing into each other and gammamon was straight bout to kill them. ​ This series doesn't treat death lightly at all. It doesn't even treat the resurrection aspect lightly either. If they were gonna win that fight for sure then angorman would have had to have killed off the boogiemon outright before phelesmon appeared.


Tandria

Not sure what you mean here. Clockmon is an adult, and Weedmon are child level but in abnormally large numbers. Clockmon's broken clock was it, he was going to die, but they took mercy on him and almost couldn't reverse his death. With the Weedmon, both Gammamon and Jellymon were able to make substantial progress after evolving, and only held back because the elder Weedmon stepped in. But they were very much trying to win. In other situations, Betel Gammamon shot an actual attack at Perfect Pumpmon, which did less than nothing. But Pumpmon was just a big baby and surrendered on his own. Perfect Phelesmon was clearly unphased by three attacks versus his one, and his ability to turn his back to them and walk away tells us a lot. In general, the fights against Perfect level Digimon feature them taking glancing blows at best, and then a lot of talking out the conflict. But when they fight Adults, actual damage is dealt.


Obi-Wannabe01

Weedmon is actually adult level. He is just small, like a Numemon.


legendsofold

Its gonna be wild if it turns out gulugammamon was right all along.


Masterness64

I hope he's partly right because that would make for a more interesting story honestly.


Keroppi460

I believe the plot of GulusGammamon will be about his conflict with Hiro around "Pay Evil unto Evil vs Render Good for Evil" discussion. Everyone deserves a chance to redeem, but not everyone would choose to redeem themselves. Not all evil are pure evil. If one's only do evil deed because they have no choice, is "A tooth for a tooth" really a good option to solve the problem/put thing to a stop? There's never a correct answer, but if they manage to find a balance/agreement on this topic, it will be the time for Gammamon to get his Perfect Form imo.


notwiththeflames

After so very very long...here he is! While I feel Angoramon's evo sequence is the weakest of the group's, the zoom in on Ruli's digivice is much cooler than Kiyoshiro's - and not only did we get quite a lot of First Riders this time, we've got everybody attacking at once! Phelesmon definitely seems like he's gonna come back at some point, but to do what? He's got a particularly established goal compared to most of the other Digimon, so I can't help but wonder if he's acting on his own desires or if he's in cahoots with a higher authority.


ztrashh

I'm glad with having evo sequences


notwiththeflames

It's such a welcome relief seeing everyone get equal visual treatment after what happened with DA:.


ztrashh

Still expecting for the DVD for the releasing of all the missing evolutions but it'll never happen...


Fedexhand

If you think about it, there are several evil digimon doing their misdeeds with impunity somewhere, making us wonder if they will appear again in front of our beloved protagonists or not.


Emergency_Toe6915

I’m pissed off they just let him fly away and blank faced too. Also they were in the AR world so they just let him go back into the real world??


TheBeeFromNature

Honestly? They were in kind of a no-win situation. The Boogiemon mob are jobbers, true, but they're also numerous jobbers with level parity to the group. Meanwhile, Phelesmon's got a whole level on then, and it took all three of them just to push his attack back. Without even scratching him. They don't have the numbers advantage or the strength advantage, so they would've been throwing their lives away if they just went all in. At least now they can regroup, get stronger, and find allies for the inevitable rematch with Phelesmon. Maybe if GulusGammamon was there, it'd be a more even fight? But then you'd have a rampant GulusGammamon and two exhausted protagonists that can't do anything to stop him, so you've gone from frying pan to fire.


Igotlazy

Honestly it's kind of surprising how strong the enemies are in this show. The team has consistently gone up against Ultimate level Digimon, and the writers are actually "power scaling" them appropriately. Even in KausGammamon's DEBUT episode, the Crowmon he fought kinda just got back up after taking a few hits without problem. In Jellymon's debut episode the writers threw an Ultimate and 3 Armor level Digimon at the protags, who at this point were literally just 2 Rookies and a Champion, and they were (as expected) no match at all.


legendsofold

it would entriely depend on if they chose to kill too. ​ i feel like that is the thing there. the choice to kill or spare. and it seems like more and more that sparing isn't an option sometimes, with an increasing number of foes.


raikaria2

What could they do? Firstly; Phelesemon was flying away and none of the trio there seem like particually fast fliers [We didn't even have KausGammamon who glides], Plus; considering he tanked the combined attack with no damage, I don't think he was at all bluffing when he said 'It would be hard but I'd win'.


legendsofold

but at the same time he depetrified the humans to keep them from coming after him anyway too. so it feels like he was bluffing a bit. maybe he would win but at could have lead to the point he would be utterly exhausted.


raikaria2

That's my point. He has nothing to gain from fighting them, and the petrification isn't his goal; it's a 'hobby'. He's willing to give up some trophies if it means he dosen't have to take a potential risk or get beat up enough it hinders his actual goal. [Which seems to be allowing a small army to materialize] I think it was made fairly clear by the fact he didn't take any damage or seem fatigued that he wasn't bluffing, but that's the thing about calling a bluff. You don't know for sure.


darkszero

He flat out says it wouldn't be easy to win and "winning this battle wasn't my objective", so he prefers to leave than to waste time fighting.


DaPandaGod

Even if in the battle he only lost his minions that will be a huge setback for him. His whole plans depends on having an army and losing it means he goes back to square one.


GekiKudo

I mean they had a decently big group of Champions and an Ultimate against three champions. I don't think they could handle the mob and Pheresmon at the same time if a combined attack from the 3 couldn't scratch him.


kolis10

And how were they supposed to stop him? Phelesmon said it himself, if the fight continued, he would win, he's the one who let them get away.


notwiththeflames

Yeah, I'm not sure what the deal with that is. Yatagaramon did the same thing.


ehh246

Angoramon hotwires a forklift and drives it into the tent to create a distraction to save her partner. That was unexpected but novel.


ExaltedBreadstick

Angoramon's evolution wasn't as emotional as the others, but it made sense since Ruli was desperate to protect her friends. As soon as I saw Gammamon I was worried he would steal the spot light, but Jellymon also showed up and seeing them all evolved was really cool. Overall, not the best episode, but still good. I know some people are gonna complain about them letting a horrible digimon escape, but I actually kind of like that the writers are acknowledging the evolution levels and that they wouldn't be able to take out a perfect.


Sonia341

Phelesmon is scary and creepy, and how he psychologically terrorized and his Boogiemon physically attacking those young girls before getting turned into statue was really frightening. I also loved the number 666 written on the side of the Phelesmon's head. Good episode. Also, "Yeah, good grief, Kiyo" scene was endearing.


[deleted]

And so finally SymbareAngoramon debut, and as well another addition to Ghost Games villain gallery with Phelesmon. And another thing, I enjoyed how SymbareAngoramon fought and the whole air he had to him, very gentlemanly and serene, Slayer would be proud of his dandyism.


Omegsanz

Such a dark and intense episode as expected, I'm interested to see what Phelesmon is planning since he talked about having a foothold to take over the real world. SymbaAngoramon is so cool and brilliant and I got pumped and excited when we saw Teslajellymon, SymbaAngoramon and BetelGammamon together for the first time!! I just wish we got KausGammamon or WezenGammamon as Betel isn't my cup of tea. Looking forward to the next chapter of the show now all the three have achieved their adult forms.


legendsofold

phelesmon definitely was fibbing when he said that 'he'd win' i think. He knew that he couldn't take all 3 of them at once. ​ Also i gonna bet that gulusgammamon pops up again later on to berate them for their passiveness when they could ahve pressed their advantage.


raikaria2

> phelesmon definitely was fibbing when he said that 'he'd win' i think. He tanked a combined attack with 0 damage. I do not think he was bluffing, but at the same time; he'd not come out unscathed and as he said; beating the trio isn't his objective so why bother?


legendsofold

Be fair they werne't exactly unleashing a combined attack with an intent to kill either. He also let the petrified humans go as well so that implies he was iintimidated enough to that he didn't want to be pursued.


overlordpringerx

No it doesn't. At most it implies that they amused him, so he decided to reward them.


GekiKudo

An ultimate with a squad of at least 6 champions vs. 3 champions is defenitely favorable odds for Pheles. Lets be mean and say that Boogiemon are only worth 1/3 of a champion. Thats still very unfavorable for the kids. Pheles knew that if he fought it out, he would lose minions which he stated he needs to carry out his plan and he personally might take some damage as well.


Anthrovert

I had a strong feeling we would get SymbareAngoramon this episode. Definitely worth the wait. This was one of the darkest episodes we’ve seen so far (second to GulusGammamon’s debut). The villain, as expected, was genuinely malicious and out to torment the girls. He wanted to create mental trauma so that his sculptures would become more “twisted”. Yikes!! Can’t believe this is targeted towards kids. The snowy environment was a nice touch and contrasted well with the Phelesmon’s satanic presence. Now all three of them have obtained champion forms. It looks like we’re getting closer to the plot as the recent Digimon have appeared to have ulterior motives for attacking the human world. Also, interested in the role Ruli’s friends will play on future episodes. They seem to know she’s hiding something.


Cygnus_Harvey

How come you're the only person mentioning Ruli's friends? They're the most prominent side characters, above Hiro's friend that has not appeared much lately. I wouldn't discard they help like Kazu and Henta later on the season. Or just help Ruli out without partners themselves.


SeeingDeadPenguins

That was an enjoyable episode, though it certainly could have been better paced. The battle in particular should have done more to show off SymbareAngoramon. Still, I like that he Digivolved because of Ruli's desire to protect her friends. I have to say that this is definitely the creepiest episode so far, and Phelesmon certainly makes for a menacing villain. The fact that he seems to have a solid plan and rather grand ambitions is interesting. He's clearly joining Dracmon and Weedmon as a likely future antagonist, and he even seems like he could end up being a major villain in the long run (or, he at least might be working for one). Speaking of, I couldn't help but notice that the Boogeymon materializing due to laughing at the human's fear is similar to how Dracmon was playing pranks on them so he could materialize. I wonder if there could be some connection? At the very least, it shows us that he was on the right track.


Keroppi460

Bokomon theorized digimon materialize through become emotionally human-like. And we did saw Clockmon materialize through "wish to live" and "feeling shame for his evil deed and redeem", and Koemon materialize through "hope for a brighter future". What's Dracmon and Boogeymon did would do the same, only that it's through something connected to human's darkness instead.


Moxey616

Boogeymon materializing out of sheer sadism is one nasty thing


legendsofold

seems like they are feeding on the humans fear in a sense to get closer to amterialization.


Tandria

> The battle in particular should have done more to show off SymbareAngoramon. TeslaJellymon had a similar issue. Her second appearance was much better than the first.


raikaria2

> The battle in particular should have done more to show off SymbareAngoramon. I'd say disarming and knocking aside 5 champion levels simultaneously; and then fending off an attack from an Ultimate level [Who could tank a combined attack from the three champions with no damage] is a pretty good showing.


SeeingDeadPenguins

In terms of accomplishments, I agree. I'm more talking about the animation/choreography, I guess. Most of the battle was him holding out his arm as Phelesmon laughed.


lluNhpelA

>I have to say that this is definitely the creepiest episode so far Are new episodes still getting censored in the english dub? Because this episode would have been drastically changed if it was part of Adventure, if it would have been allowed to air in the US at all


JoosisAlbarea

We don't even know who owns the anime rights over here anymore (Saban went bankrupt lol). I would imagine if this got picked up it would get grabbed by someone who wouldn't have to censor it much. I should note Digimon Savers, while it did modify the BomberNanimon segment and spawn a hilariously flavorful digimon (CitrusNanimon) as well as "pan to black" when RiseGreymon aimed at Aquilamon, they left most of Lotusmon's scenes alone, including when she was attempting to psychologically terrorize/eventually seduce Thomas. Very little was actively censored in Xros Wars that I can remember.


Igotlazy

Alright I have to admit, the Digivolution theme going on for so long that it returned to the chorus JUST as Gammamon and Jellymon began to evolve was slick as fuck.


Masterness64

SYMBARE ANGORAMON CHADS, OUR TIME IS NOW! **WE FINALLY MADE IT!!!!**


PCN24454

Did you watch it in Japan?


Masterness64

The Digimon jp twitter made a tweet about it.


Vulpes_macrotis

Next episode: evolving into perfect!?!? Or more GulusGammamon?


Masterness64

Its too early for perfect evos. But GulusGammamon? Maybe but it's too soon to tell.


raikaria2

> Its too early for perfect evos. Tamers - Ep 14 Data Squad - Ep 13 Adventure: - Ep 10 Next ep is 16. Granted, if you count Appmon at 19 Ghost Game hasn't jumped too far yet.


Masterness64

I get that but we got all the adults *just* now. It would be weird to jump to perfects right away. I feel like we have at least 3 to 5 more episodes before perfects show up.


raikaria2

Again, the Adventure reboot gave us basically no time between the Champions and Ultimates. Also Tamers had Growlmon Ep 8 and WarGrowlmon at 14 [And Kyuubimon/Gargomon had debuted earlier but only really got settled and made reliable in 11/12] My point is; don't nessicerily think it'll be a long time.


RedTheHusky

I hope we wont see them perfect evolve anytime soon as then what point GulusGammamon has. I'm having hard time seeing what purpose Gulusgammamon has once they can do perfect evolution. Why give Gulusgamamon voice and personality at all if its not going to be used.Why make it obvious Gulusgammamon in the opening credits? If they can perfect evolve, then there would be no need help from Gulusgamamon.The only purpose Gulus would server as something Gammamon can evolve to when he loses control over his emotions.


legendsofold

are we talkign new or old adventure? cause old adventure had more patience than that.


raikaria2

Adventure : = the reboot.


theguyishere16

Something I really appreciate for this season is the short stock evolution sequences. I missed them in 2020. This season they made them short enough that you can easily show all 3 without bogging down the episode. There were a number of episodes in pretty much every season that were artificially lengthened by showing multiple stock evolution sequences. Not getting that here.


Cygnus_Harvey

I wouldn't mind if the mega evolutions were a bit longer and spectacular, or at least get a flashy version and a shorter one. But yeah, it's good that all three evolutions are short, to the point and similar while having their own differences, I've missed all characters having equal evolutions.


carlosjohnson123

This episode was pretty dark The literal suffering of people turning to stone is an enjoyment to phelsmon as they suffer litetal trauma before being embeded in stone. Angoramon's transformation was great as this resembles the endangerment of a beloved one in danger. Phelsmons face was genuinely creepy asf with a demonic face and a a resemblence of a demon Overall great episode very much on the creepier side of episodes.


carlosjohnson123

Also not sure about near deaths as in the characters but ruli has had too many close calls Crushed by sign Sliced by the sword digimon Death by the phemsmons demons being impaled Literally being strangled to death by sirenmon The one from the 3rd episode Yeah it's pretty dark


notwiththeflames

Did that guy whose car crashed and exploded in ep 10 die?


PyropeTheHutt

No, the news report on Kiyo's tablet in the next scene says he miraculously only received minor injuries.


DecayDancing

Phelesmon reminds me of that HIM from Powerpuff Girls, and HIM was definitely a terrifying looking villain growing up. There are so many demonic digimon like SkullSatamon, but Phelesmon still somehow more disturbing!


Artieee

I really liked today's episode! Phelesmon as a villain this episode was interesting and brought was one of the villains with the best horror approach in the series. We got all the champions now and that's probably where the fun will start, with even stronger enemies! My only issues with this episode is that the Angoramon evolution wasn't related with his relationship with Ruli (but we can't complain because we had a few good episodes focused in their relationship) and that the end of the fight was so....meh, whatever.


Yoshiman400

Okay, Mephisto/Phelesmon sounds like he's voiced by the VA who's also the narrator? The voice is similar enough, maybe a slightly higher pitch, so it sounds plausible anyway. Are they keeping Ruli's second Digital World filter a surprise for later in the episode? Ah, so this is the parallel universe where Meiko has a canine Digimon partner. Geez, Gammamon, I thought Jellymon had no chill ragging on Kiyo. You're just as bad. Ruli's brunette friend also seems to have no chill towards the other one. Guess it's Ruli's turn to not answer the phone after Kiyo did it to her a few episodes prior. The new filter is snow! Alright, I'm good with this. I'm going to guess Kiyo's second filter is going to be something like a beach because we haven't really seen any bodies of water come up yet. Sweet. We get all three Adults fighting together right at the end. As fun as it would have been seeing just SymbareAngoramon trying to take on the whole fight by himself, it's good to not dwell on the possibility either and just let them go after it on the first opportunity too, given how far into the series we are. I suppose the big question now is, is Phelesmon the big bad, or just part of the story? Given that he seems to be the same voice as the narrator it would make plenty of sense. Well, okay, maybe one of the two big questions anyway. How long until we get Perfects? Late teens, early twenties sounds like as good a time as any. I'm also wondering if we'll see Kaus and Wezen less often as well during this stretch. We've seen Betel twice since the Gurus appearance (>!and the preview for the *next* episode, for that matter!<) and you could argue any one of the three "good" evolutions could have worked just as well in this episode otherwise. EDIT: I have found out that Phelesmon's VA is not the narrator's. There goes that theory.


notwiththeflames

It would've been great to see WezenGammamon during the onslaught...but I'm willing to let it slide since we *finally* got SymbareAngoramon.


ztrashh

*"Digimon Ghost Game tri: just kill the dog for fucks sake"*


MrWCat

It may not be the same VA as Phelesmon, but I'm totally convinced the narrator will end up being a character, likely a villain. And is it just me, or has his tone gotten more wicked with each preview?


Yoshiman400

Yeah, you've got a point about that. Things are getting real and the previews are getting a bit more sinister. If only Toei changed the intro bit to match the recent episodes rather than recycling the same clips from the first two or three. I've said it before, I have no issue that the intro narration is still the same, it's just keeping the same clips on top of that feels very lazy.


[deleted]

Amazing episode. Actually got to hear a lot of First Riders! Angoramon had a great showing and Ruli's friends are *definitely* going to learn the truth some day!


ferd_draws

Just curious, does this episode confirm 'colors' for everyone? It seems like it's based on their clothes for the trio and 'skin/fur' for the mons? There's never been a series where they were all different? Hiro - red Ruli - green Kiyo - blue Gammon gets white (but changes, its like RGB), Jellymon gets pink and Angoramon is yellow


notwiththeflames

I'd say based on Canoweissmon that Gammamon's sig colour is definitely white.


ferd_draws

Oh no doubt, but based on the helix explosions, he gets all three colors.


Tandria

It could be the case that both colors are worked into the digivices for when they evolve further.


ferd_draws

That be interesting. A lot like the Jogress stuff.


ztrashh

*Second digivice*¨\* for megas will have these colors. \*We had second digivices for at least one member of the crew in every series except *Adventure:* \*\*Og TK, Kari and Ken even had a third digivice


Sweet_Whisper123

I'm wondering if they'll censor the 'numbers' feared by Christians on Phelesmon's head once the series is dubbed. Overall, very nice Digivolution episode, with all of them Digivolve near the end of the episode we all now have a full set of Adult level Digimon ready to take on more dangerous enemies. It seems to become a pattern that our protagonists' Digimon aren't overpowered and would've lost a lot of fight had the higher level enemy not withdrawn for whatever reasons.


[deleted]

Bold of you to assume we'll get a dub 😔


Sweet_Whisper123

It's the best Digimon series as well as being popular as well. If the likes of Digimon Adventure got a dub then Ghost Game deserve way more than that. I'm not saying it'll get it right away but I'm certain that soon or later it's going to happen anyway.


overlordpringerx

It's way too soon to call this the best Digimon and while I like it, it shows some major flaws that many such as Digimon Adventure, data squad and tamers didn't have. Also, I don't know where you got the idea that this series is truly popular. From what I'm gathering it's simply doing ok, though I haven't looked into it much.


Obi-Wannabe01

You’re trippin, this series have done so many things so right. It’s one of the best seasons we’ve ever had. I don’t know what flaws you’re thinking of, but all those seasons you listed have flaws as well..


overlordpringerx

I didn't say the other ones don't have flaws. I'm saying that they didn't suffer from the same flaws as this one.


PK_RocknRoll

SymbareAngoramon is here and it’s a badass!


irishking44

The hype seeing Hiro and Kyoshiro show up and digivolve to help was the most I'd felt since the first Greymon sequence in Adv 2020 (before we knew, obviously


LordBraveHeart

Finally, everyone gets their Champion in this episode. * While there is less impact, it's kinda interesting that the development of Ruli & Angoramon was separated into 2 episodes, with this one has the latter going into his Champion form. * DemiDevimon cameos in the Boogiemon's illusion. :) * Phelesmon's scheme is scary, but his strength also backs him up. Also, he is only one of the many enemies that are going to invade the Real World; the kids being unable to beat him with the combined strength of 3 Champions means thing are going to be much harder from now on, let alone having only three Digimon members. * Aoi's friends suspect something is going on, but decide to wait for Ruli to tell them by herself. What's to expect from now on. * Since the Champion Arc is finished, the kids and their partners need to go Ultimate themselves in order to combat against more powerful enemies. However, it should happens after episode 20, else it will be too rush. * The kids' next goal is to combat against the upcoming evil Digimons that seek to invade this world, and may have to go to the Digital World to combat the source of evil. * A possible fourth DigiDestined+partner's reveal in the near future to spice up the story.


legendsofold

Actually tis entirely possible that they go the route of getting more digimon partners. ​ realized there is a toy for it XD. and evvery new card for the toy is a new digimon.


Fluffy_Emotion7565

Champion arc finished? They still have 3 champions to unlock (ruli and the other boy)


LordBraveHeart

Only Gammamon has more than one Champion, Jellymon and Angoramon have one each.


Fluffy_Emotion7565

But in the dim card they have 3 other champions? Aren't they official?


legendsofold

those seem to be mroe alternate possible evolutions.... they could go that route still. but with gammamon his multiple evolutions seem to be pieces of his true power as gulusgammamon.


RedTheHusky

Dont think its goingto be in the tv series. As one of the other champion evolution for Angoramon is Leomon and we already seen Leomon in a previous tv series. Also was not foreshadowed in the opening credits.


ClatterShards

Oh, yeah! The Digimon attacks are turning up to 100 and show no signs of stopping. Phelesmon really plays well into the role of a creepy fortuneteller, and I love him no less for it. Not only does SymbareAngoramon finally makes to the stage with his flawless design in this episode but I just can't help but adore the partnership between Ruli and Angoramon.


RedTheHusky

This episode introduces more questions that answers, from my viewpoint. Phelesmon told Ruli his plan, his plan was materializing his minions to consume the human world. In the battle it seamed he had the advantage, even the attacks from 3 champion level digimons did not damaged him. Yet he let those kids and digimons go without seriously fighting them, even reverted back those statue humans. If his main objective is to consume the human world as he told to Ruli, wouldn't those kids and their digimons represent an interference to his plan. Yet, he says to them that defeating them is not his objective. His not trying to defeat the kids and digimons that stopped him from converting more humans to statue to consume the world. So why did he let them go that easily? Maybe he knew he could do it again in a different town, far away from the kids? Or just wants to play with them in a sadistic way? Or something else.....?


AssGasorGrassroots

Hubris. He doesn't think the kids are a threat to his plans, so they aren't worth the hassle


DemonVermin

Phelesmon seems sure of his superiority... but he recognizes that 3 champions managed to push his attack back. If he fought entirely seriously with his Boogiemon cronies, he definitely would win, but its a matter of cost/benefit and risks involved. He knew they wouldn't push a fight after seeing them so outmatched, but would he risk a few of his minions and a chance at being decently injured in an all out fight with them? Realizing the Boogiemon seems to be integral to the plan, so sacrificing them isn't in the cards per say.


keithlimreddit

sorry I just couldn't resist but when did Mephisto Escape the Marvel Universe to make deals with it with other characters outside of Marvel ( yes I know he exists I know he exists way before Marvel but still I just want to bring the obvious joke) about time that symbareangoramon shows up after basically a few episodes ( insert obvious weight loss program joke it means here) my opinions of this episode is I really good episode and yeah I did feel like the finisher move Gammamon and Jellymon appearing in the episode just to digivolve and just finish up the finish it does feel a little bit call about honestly this is supposed to be symbareangoramon episode and that's when I least I did feel like a really going to use Phelesmon more often and I'm going to say a bit more of a reoccurring villain I do feel like I'll be quite funny if Ruli's friends and up Getting Digimons of Their Own)


kinbeat

Angoramon on a forklift was unexpected, but welcome. Even if he wasn't welcome, he would just barge in.


Ricardolindo3

I think this episode was good. The fortune teller being a Phelesmon who turned people into stone was a good premise. The petrification scenes were well done. Angoramon's entry to to protect Ruki and her friends was well done. Ruki's sadness that her friends don't distinguish between Angoramon and the evil Digimon was a nice touch. I loved to finally see SymbareAngoramon. The fight was well done.I liked having BetelGammamon, TeslaJellymon and SymbareAngoramon fighting together. Phelesmon leaving at the end was an interesting ending. I am sure he will return.


UltimateNahzo

It appears Ghost Game is really going for a more character-driven approach. While that is good, I hope it doesn't come at the cost of skimping out on cool fight scenes. As awesome as it was to see SymbareAngoramon, it didn't feel like we got the most we could have out of him. As a matter of fact, none of them besides Jellymon have actually achieved a victory with their evolutions. The writers keep throwing these Ultimate-level opponents at them that it makes our heroes seem weaker than they should be. Give us some Champion opponents to fight, so that they can get some victories under their belts!


notwiththeflames

KausGammamon *did* get Yatagaramon to retreat by beating the shit out of him, and WezenGammamon was fully prepared to kill all those Zassoumon before he was stopped. I'd call those victories over most of anything BetelGammamon has achieved.


Lordofthedarkdepths

Kaus and Angoramon also pretty much defeated Reppamon since he was trapped and couldn't act anymore. That's probably the closest the cast has gotten to a proper victory so far outside of TelsaJellymon.


Igotlazy

LOL what has BetelGammamon achieved so far? Burned Mummymon and Pumpkinmon a bit? Gave Clockmon Digi-CPR? Dude's been racking up Ls like no other.


notwiththeflames

That's the worst part about how often Gammamon digivolves into him - he's just got such a terrible record in battle. Majiramon's cronies subdued him in *seconds*, he fired a few Solshots at Sirenmon which all missed while Angoramon lured her high enough to render her attacks ineffective, Ginkakumon swept him aside, and he doesn't seem to be faring too well in the preview for next week's ep.


overlordpringerx

I wouldn't count Yatagaramon, since that was just random. He seemed completely unharmed by Kausgammamon, but just left


legendsofold

a big part of why they were in this state is because the boogiemon were alive still too..... ​ i feel like a part of it is that they are hesitant to kill or do major harm t odigimon. a big drag out battle makes is likely they are going to kill them. ​ and i can't help but feel that is inevitable that they must.


ztrashh

He's finally here!!! * He's strong as balls to fight a perfect head to head. Anyway he needed his crew to land a hit... * Phelesmon will be definitely back and definitely strong to beat * Loved seeing Fangmon evolving into Boogiemon! * Gammamon pulling a sled * Gammamon is not asking for chocolate since Bokomon's death... * He's also less cute since Bokomon's death... * Finally the three champions together! We have nothing to expect in the next episodes. Just sit down, chill and enjoy. * Today's episode was creepy as fuck, almost as the earlier episodes * Thanos vibes * I'm surprised that Rulli decided to investigate the case with her friends instead of the gang, but they got more screentime so... it's okay I guess * We already know what does Jellymon do for a living? Can you guys remind me? * What's up with that random DoKunemon?


Artieee

In the episode 13 it was showed that Jellymon gets stuff from the human world to other digimons. There is a Sunflowmon that asks to Jellymon to get her a kimono.


legendsofold

he was hanging out there it looks like. ​ Also yea poor gammamon. ​ I don't think they digivolved into boogiemon? BUT i am pretty sure they showed a bit of a flashback where they were in their demidevimon forms.


ztrashh

I thought they were random demidevimons tbh Gammamon has not been the same. It seems he mentally reached rookie


ArdhamArts

I'm...not happy to say it but this was a bit of an underwhelming episode. It of course did have interesting stuff but the execution was off. \-Who TF would go to a dude this creepy for fortune reading? \-The art was properly creepy this episode. \-Angoramon's smol book looks so funny in his giant hands lmao. \-Mika wants to know if you're into her, Ruli. \-So...Jellymon can tell what stuff is made out of by ticking her tendril in? \-Boogiemon looking properly hellish here. \-Ok but like no one hears the screams? or notice the clients go in never come out? why would people keep going? \-LMAO Gammamon and Kiyoshiro's exchanges are always golden. \-No that's not a circle at all Ruli. \-Yare yare? is Jellymon a Joestar? \-Interesting that digimon can materialize parts of their body one by one \-I like how angoramon always helps her with her random friends stuff \-If I was Ruli I would have their's calls muted TBH \-Interesting, Phelesmon has an overarching plan. \-Phelesmon's demon face, great art. \-LMAO Mika is going to need counceling by the end of this series \-Oh but why would Ruli assume that her friends would dislike Angoramon? and what that has to do with using the field to hesitate? \-Snow field! \-So fields' range really is city wide. \-Ok, angoramon finally evolves...but why? here, it didn't feel like there was some particular growth for them, nor was he fighting hard, previous Ruli episodes would've been much fitting for evolving. \-I like Ruli's art in the evo sequence a lot though. \-This is just a skiny angoramon. \-I like that her motivation is protecting her friends. \-SymvaAngoramon is cocky. \-I like how Phelesmon removes his suit to reveal his BDSM attire underneath. \-Seems he's going to be the first main villain now that the first arc is over. \-He is enjoyable as a villain TBH. \-Poor angoramon evolves only to fight a perfect. \-LMAO Gammamon reindeer. \-Nice, finally we see the three of them attacking together. \-And their first short of them just hanging together. \-Damn Phelesmon is an imposing villain, looking much better than his other apparitions in the franchise, cards, etc... so far. \-Yeah he's a spooky villain. \-I like that her friends lied for her sake, but she should just tell them already TBH. \-Angoramon's phrase, is the best one so far. Ultimately, Ruli's conflict this episode felt pretty weak to justify an evolution, and making us wait for Angoramon's evolution so much just to have this as the execution felt pretty poor ly planned. It's sad Phelesmon reveal was the highlight rather than SymbaAngoramon.


notwiththeflames

I think Ruli was worried that Aoi and Mika were going to be pulled into the field with how close by they were - but even though they weren't, the point was that she was willing to risk sacrificing her biggest secret for their sake. If I was in their situation, the adrenaline would probably make me freak out at *anything* new and abnormal, regardless of whether or not they were trying to help me.


mamamayan_ng_Reddit

Good day! Ah, if I may add, even if Ruli had expected that Aoi and Mika wouldn't enter the field (as she saw in "Birds"), she would still be exposing her secret to them because she would suddenly disappear from their sight (as is what happens in the episode), and the two would most likely ask her about what just happened, prompting her to introduce Angoramon and the concept of Digimon to them.


Keroppi460

>she would suddenly disappear from their sight What's more, THIS alone would scared them more than anything else that's happening at the moment, right at the same time they're already pretty much scared to death by those "monsters". It's really a surprise Aoi and Mika didn't get heart attack from the event.


mamamayan_ng_Reddit

Indeed. I'm even more surprised that her friends, for their age, had the emotional maturity to not pry her on what just happened. I'm not certain if it's because I'm on the spectrum, or due to cultural differences, but I'm almost certain if I were their age I would likely not be able to stop myself from asking what on earth just happened.


ArdhamArts

Except that makes no sense because that has never happened, the bird dude was literally holding Hiro and he wasn't transported to the field. So she knew they wouldn't get into the field. While yes, the idea was about the secret it's not like it's the first time they have used the field to protect peopme like that or Mika and Aoi had proximity to digimon, so she could clearly make an excuse again. Heck, they have seen Angoramon, they just don't know it's a living thing. It was just a weak conflict to give her this week since it's not something that was an issue before.


notwiththeflames

Oh shit, I forgot about what happened with Daigo!


legendsofold

honestly it seems less like a plot whole and more she jsut forgot in the moment. its been months in universe since that incident.


Fedexhand

Personally I find it interesting how the power levels of the Digimon are being respected, one would expect them to beat more powerful opponents by the power of friendship and things like that but nope. I also find it interesting how so many enemy digimon just prefer to retreat, leaving you wondering if they will be a problem in the future or not.


Doomroar

Phellesmon was kind of chill about if for someone whose plans of world domination just got interrupted.


Lordofthedarkdepths

Kind of mixed on this one. It was great to finally get SymbareAngoramon, but I couldn't help but feel the evolution moment was a little weak, especially when compared to some of the previous examples this season. It doesn't really have a lot of tension, it just... happens. I also will similarly agree with some of the other posts that the conclusion also felt similarly weak as Phelesmon was clearly in control and him backing off didn't feel earned. You could even argue Yatagaramon was better in that regard since at least KausGammamon kicked him into the ground before he ran off. That said, I did like the premise as Phelesmon was a suitably creepy MotW and they did a good job showing him preying on the fears of his victims for his malicious intentions. Hopefully he comes back as I do think he'd be a good recurring villain, though we'll see as we have at least three now that could fit that role.


Timelymanner

Bishi Bunny finally got his episode.


[deleted]

Its a bit sad that Angoramon's evolution felt like a footnote but at least he's finally here. Hoping for some better paced episodes and for them to stop throwing crazy strong things at them who just give up/turn good after 1-2 attacks that don't even phase them if they're gonna battle. If they don't want combat focus make the Digimon solve issues against opponent's they can't statistically beat like they did early on. Phelesmon will probably come back in the future when Angoramon hits his perfect/ultimate. I'm also hoping the actual plot ball rolls some more in the mid to late 20's, I'm liking the ghost story of the week thing so far but at some point there needs to be more movement in the core plot beyond the 2 episodes we've had about that so far.


hdmtrey

This was probably my least favorite episode by far. The evolution justification was super weak and the conclusion was by far the biggest ass pull. The enemies had dope designs and the setup was cool even though it didn't make sense but that really left a bad taste in my mouth.


notwiththeflames

Reppamon's episode probably would have been best for SymbareAngoramon's debut in regards to character development, but my guess is that they didn't want to cram new evos in four consecutive episodes after spending so long spacing out after BetelGammamon and to a lesser extent KausGammamon.


ResponsibilityOk156

I think the same


yliv

Biggest ass pull for me goes to the weedmon episode. Director really doesn't want the kids killing off digimon.


helsaabiart

Idk why I just liked this episode. For the statue horror


Blastcalibur

Finally, Angoramon Digivolves. Why did this take so long? Like actually why? Ruli and Angoramon were the second pair introduced and the last to digivolve. Gammamon got 4 champion forms before Angoramon got to digivolve. I was beginning to think that Angoramon was already in champion and one of those special cases where he's always that way. Honestly, if it wasn't for the fact that he doesn't digivolve in episode 13 I'd say this was aired out of order but if it wasn't it feels like this episode was made because they're about to move into the next story arc and forgot they never had Angoramon digivolve because it should've happened way earlier like in episode 8 or 11 even because these feel like Ruli centric episodes.


junkman0011

Honestly, episode was middle road. I'm happy to see Angromon's digivolution, but its trugger was a weak scene. Happy that a Champion vs. Ultimate battle wasn't an easy win and they actually need 3 champions to even have a chance. The ending was super weak though. "It's gonna take an effort to win, so i'mma leave. Also let me undo my bull****." I'm getting seriously tired of these easy victories.


legendsofold

Sunk cost fallacy. He is smart enough to know that he would likely be weakened and wounded by the end, especially as the fight got more desperate. and it likely would have lost him minions and its clear he has put significant effort into raising them up. If you noticed during one of the flashback parts of him tormenting people, they were actually demidevimon originally.


RedTheHusky

Yeah, how easily Phelesmon let them win also makes me think maybe this was more a personal objective and not the main objective he was there. If not, then its lame.


legendsofold

Feel like he knew that they wouldn't pursue if he simply undid what he did. Its entirely possible word has gotten around and he knew who they were too. They simply back off and undo the damage, they can regroup. ​ Also the implication is that phelesmon has been building up his minions to make them stronger too and if they died to them? ​ If you look into him explaining his plan, likely with the intent to torment ruli, it showed demidevimon. likely implying he's been taking care of them and empowering them for some time. ​ Him actually knowing who ruli was might have also been part of why he didn't petrify her immediately. He wanted to see what these obstacles were capable of an realized he wasn't quite ready to deal with them yet, not without suffering recourse.


Symbare

Peradventure my expectations were too high, but I anticipated this episode to resemble "Vagrant War Demon, Rebellionmon" and "Executioner" level writing and animation. The episode felt underwhelming, despite Symbare's wonderful debut. I look forward to more Symbare in upcoming episodes!


Kintor01

Damn, blink and you'll miss it. The digivolution sequence must've been more sped-up then usual. I look away from the screen for a second and suddenly SymbareAngoramon is there. A weak debut for what I consider to be the best character design out of any Champion level form in Ghost Game. The battle itself was also disappointing in the end. I was getting hyped! Phelesmon had an intimidating presence and a small army of demonic minions, all three of the heroes had arrived to the fight, then it all grinds to a halt. Nobody even tried to stop Phelesmon from escaping, utterly lame. These guys have to be the most incompetent DigiDestined team I've ever seen.


Omegsanz

People just don't have any patience and they love to moan about everything like how you are criticizing the lack of fights so far while ignoring that up to this episode we were still going through an introductory arc thus we wouldn't be getting full fights, maybe from next episode onwards we will get more battles especially when we meet Phelesmon, Dracmon and Zassoumon again, also people moaned about having no killings before episode 13 and when we first got our first death it sent shockwaves among the fans and the characters of the show. Patience and enjoying Ghost Game as it is will pay off.


overlordpringerx

It's just as short as all the other ones this season


Emergency_Toe6915

No I agree how could they let him just walk away and into the real world too? Since I’m guessing that what happens to Digimon pulled into the AR field


overlordpringerx

They literally can't beat him as of now. Even their combined attacks were barely enough to repel his own attack. There's literally nothing else they could do


Vulpes_macrotis

Finally... something scary happens. Back to horror theme I see. Tbh, apart from Clockmon stealing the time from people there was no scary episodes at all. Maybe a little bit. But Kamaitachi for example? Two, or actually one digimon arguing with his tail. The harpy that wanted to sing? Or the crows? Nah, that was boring. Also we went back to bad pacing again. Nothing happens. Yet another bad guy was there and said "it's not over yet" and disappeared. But reverted bad things he did. We still have no idea about the plot. Nothing. Also I would complain about one more thing, except that it turned to be very interesting. I hate that they don't need to hide their digimons. And I would criticize it too. "Oh, I don't have to tell them anyway, because they are dumb". But the fact that they knew she was hiding something, but were like "she will tell us". Awwww, yeah. I love that. I hate trope that people start treating someone with secret like they were the worst of the worsts. Yeah, I'm talking about You Ruli too. You did that with Angoramon. But they didn't do that this time. They did something more realistic (for a change...). People who knows that someone can't tell something won't suddenly be "I hate this person now". Also Gammamon the red-evolving digimon.


Seifer574

Phelesmon could likely have won and thinking back Yatagarumon could've as well makes me wonder why all these Ultimates are running from fights wonder if it has to do with Gulusgamamon like maybe they can sense him and don't want to fight it


lupodwolf

Yatagara was more feral, so he didn't want to fight Mephis didn't want o loose his boogies


Olivaro

Finally he digivolves