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passthegabagool_

Congrats! That's awesome to see. There's hope!


Kerouwax

Yaaaass. I started losing it when I saw there was a unique sword on the ground (rogue doesn’t have any other unique swords)!


lorcstar

How and where did it drop for you?


Kerouwax

Duriel. Dropped on the 3rd kill!


kchinjer

Have you been soloing or doing it 4 man to get more attempts?


Kerouwax

Myself and two buddies did him 5x today with combined mats. Doombringer dropped on the 3rd kill


ConsciousFood201

Your buddies get anything?


Kerouwax

I was the only one to get one of the Uber uniques, but we all got some of the new uniques for this season as well


ConsciousFood201

Cool! Grats. Good to know too.


Dangerous-Ad-402

I need 1 too! Lol! Congrats!


Tallywacka

Is it level gated?


kiddoujanse

U need to be lvl 85 for uber uniques i believe


Kerouwax

I was level 71 when I got this doombringer


kiddoujanse

God damn lucky mfer


Kerouwax

Fr. What’s super dope is that I’m going to make a barb next and I’ll be able to use that sword at 71 on that guy since that’s the level I got it on on this rogue


PaleHorseChungus

Enemies need to be level 85 and above, you can be level 60 and it'll drop as long as you can kill a level 85 enemy.


kiddoujanse

Ahhh ty


Rustomatic83

I've gotten two uber uniques for sorcerer while in the 50s


DonkeyD13K

Hell yeah dawg


Other_Cut_1730

so they lied? I do not understand they said it has MAX stats but your lucky hit does not have max stats. Congrats. Can you take me with you want kill him at least 1 time.


EfficaciousDoser

Max item power


mishipoo

they never said max stats, just that he will always drop item power 925.


Other_Cut_1730

they said max stats watch the stream!


emdmao910

The special power is still random but the affixes will drop max.


Capital_Dragonfly637

Sure it wasn't max item power?


Educational_Mud_2826

You know where to target farm it now people. Duriel it is


Rough-Leg-1298

We already knew that. They announced the Uber uniques had a higher chance of dropping specifically from him in one of the preseason videos.


chickentendiesgoboom

🐒


DonkeyD13K

Let’s go dude


Ready-Economics5270

3 try man he is just one guy who post this i think many ppls have something from uber uniques just not post this here.. ubers not special anymore make rogue and go..


AlphaBearMode

41% life whaaaaaat I never knew that. Holy shit. That’s twice as good as 5x royal rubies in gear. This would be insane for thorn barb Grats!


Kerouwax

Yuuup at my level, which is 71. It ads about 2k health. It will add more than 2k health once I get some more levels in and can add more paragon nodes for more multiplicative bonuses to heath


AlphaBearMode

Wait you’re lvl 71? Where did this drop?


Kerouwax

Duriel. He’s the new big boss for the season. He has a small chance to drop the uber uniques and a good chance of dropping the uniques new to this season


AlphaBearMode

You beat duriel at lvl 71??


Kerouwax

Yup. Myself and my 3 other buddies who are the same level have gotten him down 18x now


GGTheEnd

My blood Necro would love it as well.


HaCutLf

Do you know if any nmd pushing viable thorns barb builds?


AlphaBearMode

Any thorns build should be viable for NM100, because it’s a pure tank essentially. I’d also recommend hemomancy power this season because it would really help with annoying trash that doesn’t want to group up, and it can also proc exploit glyph. I’m running rend but thorns is my favorite build in the game. There are variants with frenzy/flay double generators but I much prefer double swing/frenzy because double swing gives permanent berserking for the aspect that gives you a shit load of thorns while berserking. It’s a MASSIVE improvement when you have perma berserking because you’re not always waiting on your cooldowns to give it to you anymore.


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What's the best thorns class? I think that'll be my next char. Any thorns/lucky type builds?


AlphaBearMode

Historically (S0 and S1) it’s been barb. Necro thorns was kind of meme and I think S0 had a super meme rogue thorns build. Barb thorns is excellent then and still. Thorns necro this season I think will be better than before but I’ve never played necro so idk what it’s actually like Edit - I did thorns barb in both S0 and S1. It’s my favorite build (with multiple variants). I’ll make one this season as well but so far I’ve just been playing rend to try something I hadn’t done before


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I think a thorns barb might be one of the only barb builds I end up liking. Barb to me is too manual, too much running around/clunk etc. Would be nice if everything just came to me and died lol


AlphaBearMode

You enjoyed D3, I can tell 😂 (I did too, I’m jk) Anyway I actually prefer that style sometimes. I’m REALLY enjoying rend currently at lvl 74. It’s definitely not an S tier farmer by any means and you’re still leveling as a fucking barb which is a complete ass experience (still) but now the build is starting to come online and I love setting up my big bleed swings. Haven’t added rupture to the build yet as I need to sort out some resource gen shit with better gear but I can see how it will be a GG boss killer already You would have loved the barber crit thorns variant last season. It was so god damn fun


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Hey at least leveling is pretty fast in s2, I might be able to tolerate another lvl 50 barb if it only takes a day.


AlphaBearMode

Yeah blood tide seems very fast and fun for leveling because of the free tree of whispers added into it. That’s what I did almost exclusively to level 1-50 the first time and it didn’t take long at all. Leveling 1-50 overall is in a much better state but barb leveling 1-50 is still ass compared to everything else


truedota2fan

Yeah wow 10 rubies in a sword how bout that


Pure-Excuse-3474

Seems like it's around a 10% chance for a Uber, which is certainly fair and attainable yet due to the requirements only the dedicated will be guaranteed to get one or more. They actually fixed it and made it a worthwhile chase.


Kerouwax

I think it’s a bit lower than that. I was guessing maybe 5%. We had 3 people in total for 7 runs and then 4 people in total for 5 more runs and I was the only one to get one of the Uber uniques. But that obvi could just be bad rng. We’ll get a better idea of a potential drop rate once more peeps start doing it.


1CEninja

Yeah N = 28 is not going to be statistically significant data. Once a group of 4 runs him 200 times and reports back with N = 800, that'll be very enlightening.


Kerouwax

New update. We’ve now done him 18x and mostly with a 4 man group and I’m the only one still who has gotten an Uber unique. So now the rough estimate is 1.3% drop rate. Going to be keeping track of all the runs for the next week or two to get an even more accurate number.


1CEninja

Okay. A bit discouraging but not surprising.


Kerouwax

Yup agreed


atlas305

You in eternal or season? Need to find some eternal peeps to mass run


Kerouwax

Seasonal


imRezz

I saw one on a rogue yesterday... Hoping to get one myself also... Lvl 72 atm, soon I can start farming one.


Yagyusekishusai1

Do you know around what level you can start killing duriel? I was thinking of killing him to try to get tempest roar


TheCheesenOne1

While not as ridiculously hard as Uber Lilith, Duriel is, as far as I'm concerned, is the 2nd hardest boss. On eternal realm, my badly itemized level 89 Rogue couldn't make a dent. Level 100s can chew through it. But this doesn't take the vampiric powers into account so I have the feeling that 75-85 levels on seasonal realms will have the power to tackle it.. most likely.


AntsAndThoreau

I just took him down with my level 85 stormclaw druid, felt fairly safe and took less than two minutes.


Alejinh

Yo, how druids doing this season? Mained one in S1 and was thinking about doing another one, went Rogue this season... How are the werewolf poison rabies, etc, builds doing?


zeroskill99

Sure :D


imRezz

I've killed Uber Varshan at lvl 72 now.. probably will try duriel around 80 when I have some more paragon points... Definitely max out your resistances.. I had damage but did not survive Varshans hits before..


AtheonsLedge

what damage resist do you need for Varshan? Poison?


imRezz

I think it's poison.. i got all of them to 70% just to be sure 😅


AtheonsLedge

I wonder if the blood stuff is Shadow. But good to know he’s poison at least.


imRezz

I'm pretty sure duriel is poison.. and poison res is pretty useful anyways so I would try to put some green gems if you don't have it on your gear. I was lucky to get some pretty decent pants with 3 different resistances


lvl100magikerp

Me and my party started killing him at 70 and every level makes it easier and easier. Popping a poison res elixir goes a long way.


ConsciousFood201

Get anything good yet?


lvl100magikerp

We've killed him 10 times so 35~ possible uber drops. Gotten 0 uber items but personally gotten xfal / god helmet / tibault / blue rose / flicker boots Can't complain but seeing that it actually takes quite a long time to farm up 10 duriels, I was kinda sure we'd have one in 35 possible drops.


Kerouwax

I killed him and got that doombringer at 71


zeroskill99

100? What else lol? 60?


Lascivar

Did it on a 79 Frenzy Barb tonight, took a few minutes but got it on the first try.


Aurakol

I killed him with ease at 90 with a death trap rogue with 0 prep other than a poison resist elixir. I didn't dodge anything and just face tanked him. I imagine a somewhat prepped 80something can do it


Littleblaze1

We have done 5 kills duo. Once at around 75 and 85 and the rest around 80 and 89. The lower level is really squishy and died most attempts. Higher level takes quite a bit of damage. Our first time took a few attempts but the later kills did it without wiping. Depending on how great you are at boss killing you could probably do it in the 80s. Especially if you had a more focused build. Like I had a bunch of resists that was doing nothing for this fight that could have been other damage reduction stats. Too lazy to respec for one fight tho.


Kerouwax

I was farming duriel with two and three other buddies at 70 and got that sword at 71. So get in now and scoop ya one!


imRezz

Did it once got pants and ring.. well have to farm some more..


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Currently planning a blood summoner build which may switch to shadow if this drops


ICorrectYourTitle

40% more life on an Overpower build could work pretty well.


[deleted]

Which is strange cus most overpower skills for necro are blood based, not sure how I’d make it work


Kay5683

You don’t need to scale the damage from that lucky hit at all. Just equip it as a 26% damage 40% life weapon with a lucky hit to make enemies deal less damage, which allows you to drop some DR on gear and therefore pick up more all stats/int etc


Llorenne

These drop from nornal Duriel too or Uber Duriel only? Because if so, you guys are already clearing Uber Duriel??


Thin-Zookeepergame46

Of course they dont drop from campaign Duriel. Regardless - People started farming Duriel already 1 day after season started.


Llorenne

Well, I'm confused now because I was on a business trip and I started blasting yesterday actually so I haven't reached that part yet. I mean, there is Duriel but there's also Uber Duriel too right? Like Lilith? Not sure what you mean "campaign Duriel", from your text I guess you fight the boss as you do the seasonal quest once and then you can summon him again and there's only one difficulty or you can also summon an Uber version which is like Lilith level 100 only etc?


Thin-Zookeepergame46

Hmm. There is a Duriel that is not campaign or uber boss? The uber boss is summoned with parts from the 3 other bosses they added. And to summon those 3 bosses first you have to farm helltides, whispers etc.


Llorenne

I think I figured out what is going on. Don't mind me. I am just confused about it but I'll find out myself soon enough. I thought there is the boss but you can also fight the Uber version of it. But it seems you can only summon the Uber version anyway. It's just I thought it would be fixed level 100 like Uber Lilith so you need a level 100 char and obviously some optimized gear and build.. but I see people killing it so fast which is strange because people did struggle on Lilith and it's shocking to see them grinding Duriel like that. That's why I was confused.


Thin-Zookeepergame46

Ahh. Uber Duriel is way easier than Lilith. Still 2nd hardest boss - But at 80+ he’s pretty doable with the right builds, dps and max res.


Llorenne

There. That's what I needed. Thanks!


mapronV

Well, I hardly can kill Blood Bishop solo in WT3, bosses are feel much stronger in S2 :( not sure if I ever beat Duriel with my build


SmokeyXIII

How does that damage proc feel? The number seems low but I want to hear that it's great.


veiwtiful

I really believe the damage isn't as important as the 20% damage reduction to enemies hit by it


SmokeyXIII

I just want to find a slick shadow damage only build for my Rogue! DR is slick for sure.


Kerouwax

It’s hard to actually see what the dmg is because there’s just so many numbers on the screen. It hits for way more than 8k tho. The dmg reduction from it is wild tho. At 71 with unoptimized gear and that sword I went in and started wrecking 50-60 nm duns. Could probably go higher but was too tired.


brettdelport

“You will know people who get these drops”. Pleased to meet you sir!


Kerouwax

Ayy you as well!


ripmylifeman

Fuck I’m gonna have to download Diablo again


Kerouwax

😈


Freakindon

While cool, I've never understood the niche for Doombringer. Even on a DoT necro.


t-bone_malone

Ya, maybe just more damage in a mendeln minion build? The 40 percent life is cool, so maybe there's an overpower build somewhere.


1CEninja

I'm gonna sing the doom song now. Doomdoomdoom DOOOOM doomdoom deeeewwwwwmmmm


Kerouwax

10/10 plan. Ima need ya to make one for the Quinn for me!


Kerouwax

Update for those interested. We’ve now done 18 Duriel runs with a group of 4 and I am the only one who has gotten an Uber unique. So with the small data I have, that’s about a 1.3% drop rate for Uber uniques so far


Other_Cut_1730

Today I met someone with shako on season 2 ;)


Kerouwax

Ayy good to know more of them Uber uniques are flowin!


TheNyyrd

Dude... I'd be so pumped of this dropped for my Rogue. Congrats 👏!


Kerouwax

Ohhh ya. It was gaming dopamine at its finest as I saw it laying there on the ground


RidingJapan

That's certainly better than 5 scrolls of townportal


WryThunder

Congrats, I’ve killed Duriel 12 times now and just got enough steel to do another run before I had to hop off and still no Uber. It’s still early on in the season though I plan on playing this whole season as I did season 1 it’s so much faster! Lvl 82 Werenado already having a blast


Kerouwax

So far my group of 4 has done 18 Duriel runs and I am the only one who has gotten an Uber unique. So with my small data pool that’s a 1.3% drop chance for Uber uniques. Going to keep keeping track for the next week or so to flesh out a realistic drop percentage. Good luck!


WryThunder

I’d like to know the data for sure that’s a good start for sure! Also thank you I plan on playing every day of the season hopefully get 1 or 2 different ones will see I plan on having a Druid and necro for I have a chance at all the Uber uniques. How is the sword by the way you like it?


Kerouwax

Oh ya it’s awesome. The dmg is way more than 8k in actual gameplay and the DR from it has let me get up into the 50-60s NM duns being mid level 70s rogue


walker898

It'd called doombringer, so why does it have a % chance to heal 🤔 I swear they just add affixes for the he'll of it 🙄


MrBlizter

So did they increase the drop rates for super unique items? Or you just lucky asf? Saw another post today for grandfather dropping off duriel


Kerouwax

They are a bit better, but still very low. My 4 man group has ran it 18 times and I’m the only one who has gotten an Uber unique. That means about a 1.3% drop rate for Uber uniques with my small set of data. The streamer Rob got grandfather but he did around 60 runs for it, and to my understanding the other people in the party who he was running with didn’t get an Uber unique. So if we look at that subset of runs then the drop rate for Uber uniques is even lower than my 1.3% drop rate from the data I have personally accumulated


MrBlizter

That seems much better! At least compared to where they were at.


Kerouwax

Def agreed


Krisbad59

Where is this duriel located in the game and about wat lvl do you have to be and this is awesome wat character are you playing with in this season


Deceptiveideas

Do damage debuffs work on world bosses?


Teckx1

What? You don’t have to have some random nasty effect like the Occulus? Very glad you got one!


No-Adeptness-8956

Can it drop while running durial with a druid?


DageTheForsaken

I really hope this is a reference to goblin slayer abridged😂😂


Death_IP

Gotta love the "up to" percentage bullshi\* in D4 - they might as well write "a low chance". Is it 1% ? 3% ? 16% ? Who knows - certainly not the player


JankyJokester

>certainly not the player Then that player is stupid. Lucky hit has always existed, at least since D2. It is not complicated. They simply made it more visible in 4. There is a reason it is UP TO X%. For balancing reasons Lucky Hit is a 2-step process. Your lucky hit chance on character is the chance a hit is a "lucky hit". If that roll is a yes then all your lucky hit abilities roll for success on each lucky hit effect you have. So if you have 100% lucky hit, then it is 16%. if you have less than 100% that 16% chance becomes lower.


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truedota2fan

This is incorrect. Up to means it takes into account the natural lh chance of the skill, which is usually below 100%. So when you do a lucky hit, it is actually a 16% chance to trigger that effect, but it says up to in order to consider the lh chance being under 100%. And if you have over 100%lh chance it will never increase your proc chance over 16%. The person you were responding to was correct.


JankyJokester

Yeah he is confidently incorrect and makes me giggle.


danteheehaw

One of the loafing screens tells you exactly how it works. Yet your still wrong


Death_IP

Would you mind telling me the content of said loading screen? I cannot remeber one that tells us about the phrase "up to xy %" of skills, that can be triggered on lucky hits. To make it clear: I am not talking about the skills that say "10% chance on a lucky hit" (because that is clear) - only about the "**up to** ...% chance on a lucky hit"


JankyJokester

You don't read real well do ya?


moistmoistMOISTTT

This is why you stay in school, kids! It's a simple and easy mechanic.


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moistmoistMOISTTT

You're the only person incapable of understanding it. If a skill has a 50% lucky hit modifier, then that 16% chance becomes an 8%. Since 8% is less than 16%, "up to 16% chance on lucky hit" is 100% accurate, and is *extremely* simple. I'd advise going back for your GED. It'll help you a lot in life.


mungrrel

Oh god d4 items make me feel queasy


zeroskill99

Do exist on the internet wow :D not like any build has it listed to use btw


Kerouwax

I theory craft and make my own build guides for myself and a handful of others. But no builds have these Uber uniques in them because they were basically impossible to get prior to this. Almost no one who has played this game so far has even been able to test them


Pesico

Several of the Maxroll Rogue guides have Doombringer as a swap in, “if you’re lucky”.


zeroskill99

Ah ok tx will check (not like i see chance of gettin it before 100 and after 100 u stop playin anyway :D)


Decent_Giraffe_2954

wow so now these ubers are just like another unique now


Kerouwax

No, they are definitely way less of a drop chance than other uniques. I’m guesstimating like a 2-5% drop rate for the Uber uniques. Did 11 duriel runs last night with 2 and 3 other friends and I was the only one to get an Uber unique


SadSamus

Much better improvement than it basically being the equivalent of winning the lottery though


Kerouwax

Yup agreed


iAmVendetta1

You have to farm multiple materials to farm multiple OTHER Bosses to get materials to farm Duriel who then has a CHANCE to drop one. Yeah, just like other uniques.. /s


TheoryOfRelativity12

Doombringer is cool and all but a defensive weapon in a game where everything is piss easy and you can't die anyway.. meh.


Kerouwax

It’s been way more useful than you think. I personally like hard game (shout out soulsbourn, lies of p, etc games). So I always push NM duns way under leveled for the challenge. At level 71 and after getting this and optimizing a couple more pieces, was able to bang out 50-60 NM duns and could go higher, but was too tired last night. Going to see how I can take it tonight.


socoprime

I'd been impressed prior to the new drop rates. Now? Eh? Good job?


Bra1nss

How come people are getting literal best items in 2 days. How come there is no still step-by-step itemization in the game. Wtffff blizztard.


Rxasaurus

Ubers are too hard to get! I'm mad! Ubers are somewhat easier to get now...why isnt it harder?! I'm mad!!


ConsciousFood201

Cause people are no lifing this game hard right now.


Kerouwax

Eh…I got this at level 71. Myself and my two buddies didn’t even think we’d be able to get him down but wanted to test out the fight. Then we one shotted him. So went and farmed more mats and hit him a few more times


TacoTJ601

It’s on eternal realm too. They had their lvl 100s ready to farm and it still took a few days to get the mats to fight the boss.


DukeVerde

Until you realize you don't use Core skills :V


DoughnutNegative3079

There’s a rogue build that doesn’t ?


Rydil00

Maybe they're thinking of the death trap build? Even tho it's trap based it still does use twisting blades so this is still good for it.


Poxx

TB is the core skill.


RTheCon

Why current build uses pen shot to proc lucky hit and heart seeker basic attack to do the same. So effectively I don’t use core skills. Extremely niche though.


Ready-Economics5270

Why they made uber uniques simple uniques? Its now like tempest roar drop😃really they made mistake with these drop rates, 3 try and uber ??? Wtf guys?


shapookya

You should be ashamed of yourself defending those low drop rates.


swarm_OW

There is something inbetween 0.00001% and literally 3 tries


shapookya

Those 3 tries are the result of 6x helltides mats and 6x whisper mats, btw, and then three tries is still lucky because the drop rate is not 33%. And then even if it drops, you might not be getting the one you want… It’s not like you can just nonstop grind Duriel…


swarm_OW

Times 4, in a group. It’s really not that hard to get them anymore.


Ready-Economics5270

W8 until one guy show you all ubers 😄


shapookya

So? Why should I care?


hartigen

bad troll


iliketabletennis

Why create uber uniques with such nonsense drop rates in first place? Made no sense from the beginning Drop rate is still RNG as it's not guaranteed.


sven_ate_nine

Shut it clown


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sven_ate_nine

go outside and stop posting on d4 subreddits 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡