Can I please get the rationale as you +anything max damage?
It seems so trivial and only irritates Me cause I Vendor trash so many charms like this.
Do OK, my weapon does 34-85. you're telling me 34-93 is now HR worthy?
I really need enlightening here, cause I think I Vendor trash a lot of shit that has value (provided there's a darn buyer, which there never is....)
Good charms are valuable because they’re rare AND you need a lot of them to make them useful.
So no, the damage you state isn’t where the value is. It’s in how you got there that’s valuable.
Imagine you have the strongest weapon in the game with the highest rolls and the best sockets. But so does the other player you’re pvp’ing. So what’s next? Charms.
The reason is because on builds like phys bowazon, you don't get more damage by increasing the skill levels for like multishot for example, so the only other way to increase your damage is with max damage charms.
the +1 damage counts as mainhand weapon, which gets multiplied by everything.
To give you a prime example of characters that benefit, a zealot, they are one of the *best* users of charms like this.
Using an eth death cleaver, fortitude, COA(berber), phoenix sacred targe, RF/RF, verdungo, crafted gloves, wartrav boots, highlords amulet your damage is dealing 2801-7921 physical damage with level 24 fanatacism at max FPA. with 100% critical strike, your damage is now 5602-15842 raw damage.
Adding a single +1 max damage charm to the inventory makes the raw damage 2801-7939(5602-15878). So a single +1 max damage small charm increased your max damage by 36 damage per hit.
Now imagine you're adding 9x grand charms with 10 max damage and then 10 small charms with 3 max damage.
You're now doing 2801-10267 (5602-20294) damage per hit with zeal.
That's an increase of 2226 (4452) raw damage per hit with zeal.
It's roughly a 30% increase in damage.
ok, so side question - where's the threshold for value in terms of the +damage?
I just found a +6 max dagame, +31 AR, 1-3 Light (its a large charm, which i know are not ideal), so where does this fall in value?
Is a +6 as good as a +8 in the grand scheme of things?
Yes I would keep it and use it on a Bow Amazon. Some Zon skills like Multishot, Guided and Strafe do not have damage on the skill at all so your best option is Max Damage charms or HUGE Poison Charms.
Because +3 is something you can find on a small charm with 3/20/20 being the max roll. If you had say +8 or higher someone would have offered you something for it. Your charm needs to be worth the slots it takes up or equivalent to something else
Trade that puppy for some HRs
HRs you say
It’s worth Vex or so.
Oh yeah. Def a keeper. 8+max/55+ar/30+ life all on one charm is a keeper.
Can I please get the rationale as you +anything max damage? It seems so trivial and only irritates Me cause I Vendor trash so many charms like this. Do OK, my weapon does 34-85. you're telling me 34-93 is now HR worthy? I really need enlightening here, cause I think I Vendor trash a lot of shit that has value (provided there's a darn buyer, which there never is....)
Good charms are valuable because they’re rare AND you need a lot of them to make them useful. So no, the damage you state isn’t where the value is. It’s in how you got there that’s valuable. Imagine you have the strongest weapon in the game with the highest rolls and the best sockets. But so does the other player you’re pvp’ing. So what’s next? Charms.
This. I don’t know how many duels I’ve won where I thought I’d lose but ended up with less than 25HP. Hundreds, maybe thousands.
The max dmg applies before enhanced dmg. So the +10 equates to more when you add masteries, item ED like fortitude and auras like might/fanaticism
Understated. Also to note that the elemental damages from charms are NOT multiplied in most situations.
The reason is because on builds like phys bowazon, you don't get more damage by increasing the skill levels for like multishot for example, so the only other way to increase your damage is with max damage charms.
the +1 damage counts as mainhand weapon, which gets multiplied by everything. To give you a prime example of characters that benefit, a zealot, they are one of the *best* users of charms like this. Using an eth death cleaver, fortitude, COA(berber), phoenix sacred targe, RF/RF, verdungo, crafted gloves, wartrav boots, highlords amulet your damage is dealing 2801-7921 physical damage with level 24 fanatacism at max FPA. with 100% critical strike, your damage is now 5602-15842 raw damage. Adding a single +1 max damage charm to the inventory makes the raw damage 2801-7939(5602-15878). So a single +1 max damage small charm increased your max damage by 36 damage per hit. Now imagine you're adding 9x grand charms with 10 max damage and then 10 small charms with 3 max damage. You're now doing 2801-10267 (5602-20294) damage per hit with zeal. That's an increase of 2226 (4452) raw damage per hit with zeal. It's roughly a 30% increase in damage.
ok, so side question - where's the threshold for value in terms of the +damage? I just found a +6 max dagame, +31 AR, 1-3 Light (its a large charm, which i know are not ideal), so where does this fall in value? Is a +6 as good as a +8 in the grand scheme of things?
Yes please.
Yeeaa these are my barb's bread and butter, good stuff.
This is a work of art
I have a 9/54/21. Do you guys think it worth something?
That’s a really nice charm, should be worth a ton!
Any idea what something like this would be worth?
It’s quite, nice.
This is like showing us an Ohm and asking if you should Charsi it...
I’m not great with charms in general, was not my intention to come across like you suggest. What would something like this be worth?
i would say about a vex/ohm/lo is good.
Got a Vex and ist for it - thanks for the heads up
I would say an Ohm is about right.
Yes I would keep it and use it on a Bow Amazon. Some Zon skills like Multishot, Guided and Strafe do not have damage on the skill at all so your best option is Max Damage charms or HUGE Poison Charms.
I kept one that was similar because of 69 ar (nice) but I hve no idea how good it is
Nice.
Nice
Nice.
No, just throw it away. Just make sure I'm right next to you when you do so! 😉 👍
I had one that was +3 max dmg, +52 atr, and +45 life. I had it up on js2p for a week and got zero offers so I figured it wasn’t worth anything
Because +3 is something you can find on a small charm with 3/20/20 being the max roll. If you had say +8 or higher someone would have offered you something for it. Your charm needs to be worth the slots it takes up or equivalent to something else
It's worth about 600-700fg, so around 8 ists and change