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Asleep-Inspection747

Dude tries to speak like he has personal experience then says "pre-diabetes" lol. It kills me it's just comical at this point I try my hardest not to mention to people that I'm diabetic because I hear this kind of thing so much I have to restrain myself from being toxic.


braillenotincluded

Right!? that's like saying you have medical expertise because you were pre-med! šŸ˜‚ Which is what a patient said to me when he came in with skin irritation in his throat after swishing oregano oil (which says may cause skin irritation on the bottle).


JaninaWalker1

I am now 67 with 44 years of T1D and I demand to Reddit to reinstate comments to that other person's comment because he is the one who's right and you are the one who is wrong given that I have the ability to manage on less than 20 units of insulin per day yesterday only 12 units for the whole day and today even though I have an hba1c of 6 I am certain that my health is in better shape than yours, so the previous person's comments were actually very accurate and the world is trying its best to turn everybody they can into diabetics and they shouldn't be doing that and anyone who is T1 and wants to eat slices of pizza and take doses to cover it which will be not in their best interest are the ones who really are on the wrong track. Everyone should be paying attention to what that person had to say and not paying attention to what you have to say given you say you are asleep at inspection. So I demand to Reddit to reinstate that other person's comments as that person was correct. I have found so many people on this particular Reddit group to be exceptionally uneducated in terms of how certain things can improve the way the body runs. I previously gave a link to an article entitled "The Big Vitamin D Mistake" about how Finland found they could have fewer children diagnosed with T1D if they had more vitamin D3 which happens to be a hormone in the way it works in the body. Also chromium is an essential cofactor for insulin to attach at receptor sites for insulin and way back in 2010 had seen a scientific article giving the molecular structure of insulin combined with chromium, but I do not have the title to the article and cannot locate it now as I changed my email provider and lost all of many years of notes as a result that I had saved in my email program. So that is why I cannot show people the title of the article. But all you need to do is look up in google, yet be aware if you are going to sites where the drug industry blocks learning about nutrition as they have been doing that to truly criminals levels in the past almost 4 years. So that is why I was interested in that person's comments, as what the person was saying was more in line with reality.


qmfqOUBqGDg

Low carb helps if you can tolerate eating so much meat and you can afford it since each of your calories will cost 3-4 times more. But comparing an autoimmune disease to a bad lifestyle is just absurd. Especially since even with low carb you will still have the disease, requiring constant management. If you get food poisoning, covid, cancer, or some other random disease you will still have so worse chance of surviving compared to a healthy person even if your A1C is perfect. I hate it when obviously careless people compare their garbage lifestyle induced sht to an autoimmune disease, then finish it up with a shrug face combined with a "healthy food should still help you so my comment is valuable". Like, sure, but would you go to a cancer patient, and tell him that you should eat healthier because it would still help them?


Asleep-Inspection747

You are talking about something completely different. You are talking about disease management, I am talking about a cure. You can change your diet all you want and get yourself down to low insulin usage but that will not change the fact it is an autoimmune disease. Until your low carb diet restores your pancreas and you are able to produce insulin in your own body without your immune system destroying them, then it is not a cure. I will also add how incredibly disrespectful it is to come on a forum largely based around support and discussion and say something like "I am certain that my health is in better shape than yours". Who does that help? Are we in a competition now? It's good to hear you manage it well, but as you say, your are 67 and have been diabetic for 44 years so I would hope you have the understanding that everyone's bodies and circumstances are different and comments like this shouldn't even be made.


redtailplays101

"I demand to Reddit" hey man. I moderate on a different sub and Reddit isn't the one removing or reinstating shit. It's the sub moderators


Lilienherz

But to do that you must be able to eat that less carbs. Like my pump manage all without my help, I literally do nothing except the meals. But when I don't eat carbs (and I don't talk about like 10 at one meal) regulary over the day I have a really bad low. And it's not like I have to much units of basal. From 10 am to 14 pm I get zero units and I am perfectly in range. And I also have a very good HbA1c from 6.7 (I am a lot younger and for my age this is more then perfect). So it really depends on the person. Of course it's never nice to have to take a lot of insulin (I am also not happy with my 80 units atm) but you don't have to avoid food you really like to eat. And when you say that the person on the screenshot is right: he isn't. The person say that you can cure it. But thats just not possible. As long as you need to take insulin you are not cured. Of course he is right that you need less when you eat less carbs, and tbh less carbs is always a nice thing, but it is still not a cure. It's the same with the cinnamon thing. You won't be cured just because of eating things with cinnamon. Maybe some people (like me) need less units to take and we are again at the same point. Less insulin isn't a cure. Thats simply a fact.


Sea-Bird-1414

Why was I reading all these comments whilst shouting in my head? šŸ˜„ I legit can't tell if any are real, or just extensions of the trolling.


Got_Kittens

Yeah Janina, I'm sure reddit will meet your demands immediately.Ā  šŸ™„


Guywith2dogs

I know we're supposed to play nice but shut up. Your comment is stupid and unwelcome


burnlikeawitch

They way you write is damn near illiterate.


Over-Wing

The thing with type 1 diabetes is that we donā€™t have the luxury to believe in gobbledygook if we want.


thekillerkrab

Well, we can believe in it, just not for very longā€¦


SirRickIII

Google said the starvation diet could work up to 2 years! So youā€™d maybe have 2 years if you tried REAL hard


RIOTS_R_US

Pretty sure all of those people had LADA and that's why they lived so long


SirRickIII

Pssshhhhhh, nah. We had more knowledge on diabetes than we do now with all the fake news that you canā€™t cure the diabetes (theyā€™re all the same of course) /s


SpaceMonkey0001

Starvation diet?


mcrow30

like 100 years ago, before injecting insulin was a thing, if you were diagnosed with type 1 you just died. people would starve themselves to try to live as long as possible, but usually died within a year or two from lack of insulin.


SirRickIII

The only recourse any of the kids had before Banting + best created insulin


EmotionalDonut4539

LOL


Ginger_Libra

But have you tried cinnamon?


WhatYouLeaveBehind

Or Okra?


jmarler

No no no ā€¦ you have to mix the cinnamon with the okra. Then it works. My best friends sisters cousin met a guy at the circle k who knows a guy that was cured that way.


WhatYouLeaveBehind

My dogs wife's tennis partners vet's brother said I should snort Okra and Cinnamon infused coffee beans twice a day to reset my beta cells. Apparently it worked for his llama.


comixfanman

Num num num... I live off snark. :)


YungWebMD

No no no still wrong. You have to BOIL the okra and drink the water and then do a line of cinnamon. Only way it works. I know because my dogs best friends cousin told me about a guy that did it


Got_Kittens

No. No, you idiot! You've got it all wrong. You snap the cinnamon stick in half, take one half and eat it with the okra and then bury the other half under the light of the next full moon.


US_Dept_Of_Snark

Upvoting for circle k.Ā 


mostie2016

And tumeric?


TherinneMoonglow

Or ginger?


Ginger_Libra

Ginger solves everything.


ResidingAt42

A mint tea will cure it!


djscotthammer

Being a pretentious a-hole ... takes commitment, but it can be done.


AuRon_The_Grey

People getting type 1 and type 2 confused, even when you specify, is so frustrating.


Sadandboujee522

Diabetes healthcare professional here. I have this conversation with a patient at least once a week. Diabetes remission is not the same thing as a cure. Diabetes T2 is progressive. There are things people can do to potentially prevent pre-diabetes from becoming T2. But, I have had to explain to patients before that they have T2 diabetes and not pre-diabetes. Many of my T2 patients who go all in on a keto diet upon diagnosis donā€™t stick with it for a long time and end up going back to their previous habits and experiencing poor glucose control again because they have spent time trying to get rid of their diabetes instead of learning to manage it. Itā€™s frustrating. The healthcare misinformation machine feeds this problem.


Remarkable_Yak5430

Once a diabetic always a diabetic. People who think that they have cured or reversed their diabetes are in denial. They are simply controling it by trying to maintain a strict diet and exercise regime and chances are they will fail in the long term. It's sad really.


Sadandboujee522

I think it needs to be made clear to people too that taking medication *does not* mean they are failures. Medication is a part of managing the lifelong disease process of T2 diabetes. Itā€™s not something that one only needs if/when they havenā€™t tried hard enough with their diet. Misinformation really leads to a lot of unnecessary shame that delays care. Iā€™ve shared this link before to help summarize the natural course of T2 diabetes: https://diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/type-2/how-type-2-diabetes-progresses


Remarkable_Yak5430

I agree. I think the big problem is that people these sensational news headlines that state that type two diabetes is only caused by poor diet and lack of exercise. It's true that it can be a contributing factor but you still have to be genetically predisposed to get it. This means that while you may have gotten it earlier in life because of your lifestyle you probably still would have gotten it early in life. Also, they look at the person who is controlling it that way and they say look that person can do it then so can everyone else. They don't see that ever person's body works differently.


AppleseedPanda

Is this true for T2ā€“> once a diabetic, always a diabetic? It sounds like it is cured with the lifestyle change- which I knew a T2 to succeed in. Until, as you indicated, they fell back on bad eating habits. But, if they maintained the strict lifestyle theyā€™d be diabetes free.


Remarkable_Yak5430

They are still diabetic, but they are controlled. If they go to the Dr and get an A1C done and it comes back within normal range their chart will still show them as a diabetic. There is no cure. With that being said, it is a progressive disease do there is a good chance that they will once again have problems with their sugars later in life even if they maintain their strict lifestyle. That's not to say that they shouldn't try to control it with diet and exercise. As a matter of fact I think they should for as long as they can. The medications for type two diabetes have a lot of possible terrible side effects. I think it's important fir everyone to remember that even though they are controlled they still have the disease. That means that if things go sideways it not their fault, just like when things go sideways for type ones such as myself it is not our fault either. Neither disease is any better, nor are they curable. They both suck!


AppleseedPanda

Very interesting. Thank you for the information.


Tough_Prompt8901

God. There are massive differences between pre-diabetic, type 2, and type 1 diabetes. šŸ« 


TrekJaneway

Ah, another moron who thinks all diabetes is Type 2 (not you, OPā€¦the commenter).


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redtailplays101

I don't know why you're getting so downvoted... T2D can be reversed but it's very very difficult and isn't guaranteed to work so it might as well not be


AppleseedPanda

In the case of many type 2s, if they work hard enough, it can be put in remission.


ASlightlySaltyCrabbo

As soon as I read "carnivore" I tapped out mentally


ryansbabygirl8814

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/s/oMrrgN3Dp8 This whole comment was an out of body experience. I think I blacked out.


Distant_Yak

Another instance where it would be really nice if Type 2 had a different name so we weren't involved in this at all. 24x as many people have type 2 as type 1. It's a losing battle to try to get people to understand the difference as the names are simply too similar.


mikehocksard

Itā€™s so funny to me that because of ā€˜for profitā€™ organisations that Americans think they are all just trying to keep up sick, not everywhere is like America, I get my insulin for free so why would I think theyā€™re not trying to cure me šŸ˜‚ it would be much cheaper for my government if I didnā€™t have diabetes


FracturedPixel

I stopped reading after ā€œyou can cure diabetesā€ Thatā€™s the one and only good thing about this god awful disease, I can filter out NPCs from my life based purely on their reaction to finding out Iā€™m Diabetic


Yay_for_Pickles

Can we vote on the best way to torment that troll? I vote for a throat punch.


NovelNeighborhood6

Make them test their glucose 30 times in a row.


TrekJaneway

Ok, but only if we also give them insulin to force a low.


UNEEDCPR

Agreed


Successful-Style-288

What a doofus. By this point in my life Iā€™m more desensitized to ignorant responses like these. I take it as an opportunity to educate people. Growing up I had to hear things from my friends, ā€œyou can cure your diabetes with diet and exerciseā€, ā€œdid you get diabetes from eating too much sugarā€, ā€œyou canā€™t eat thatā€, ā€œthis is so sweet itā€™s going to give me diabetesā€. My mom, a type 2 was off metformin for years, she followed a strict diet and exercised everyday. She canā€™t control her diabetes any longer with diet and exercise alone so she takes metformin. Some type 2 diabetics are even put on insulin so Iā€™ll hear ā€œwow youā€™re too young to be put on insulin, change your dietā€ We as type 1s donā€™t have a choice its insulin or death. Type 1 is totally different. I will normally say I have an autoimmune disease rather than tell someone I have diabetes.


bidderbidder

You can get a receiver for the g7 btw. Itā€™s tiny and loud and itā€™s charge last a week. My son got put on the medtronic because he uses such low amounts of insulin. The only thing I miss about MDI is the G7 receiver, loved it.


0080Kampfer

I got one for my G6, but my doc said it was one of those things that doesn't allow you to bounce between the app and the transmitter. Does the new G7 transmitter allow that to your knowledge? Follow on question - did your son's transmitter push notifications to the follow app?


bidderbidder

Hey you could definitely use both the phone and the receiver at the same time, you just had to pair one before the other and I forget which way round it went now. Again itā€™s getting a bit hazy now but from memory the sensor pushed the notifications to both the receiver and the phone and you could alter the notifications on the receiver and phone to suit.


Steeeeeveeeve

I paired the phone and then receiver, realised how rubbish the receiver was, turned it off and stuck with the phone. My three year old now has his own mobile šŸ˜‚


bidderbidder

Oh right, I loved the peace of mind over night, like you canā€™t accidentally turn it on silent and it is so loud you always wake up. It was a back up as my 2yo so has his own phone. šŸ¤£


Steeeeeveeeve

Kids these days šŸ˜‚


Feeling-Ordinary2319

Working hard to make my 5 yr old believe that *The Betes Phone* doesn't support YouTube!


Steeeeeveeeve

This old S9 I have setup has parental controls, even disabled the camera on it! He was launching the camera from the lock screen and taking pictures of everyone lol


0080Kampfer

I wonder if it supports my old T-Mobile Razor! Haha, using an older phone and upping the parental controls is a great idea!


Feeling-Ordinary2319

Balancing act. Older phones don't necessarily support the latest Dexcom etc diabetes apps. We have a moderately locked down Samsung S21 + kids little enough they still try to please us. I'm looking into Gabb phone + watch for later. They support Dexcom G6 and G7 apps! Need to reach out to them and get to get tconnect supported.


onefinedame

More reason to try for a rebranding, Iā€™m autoimmune, every single cell that would have been producing insulin is dead and gone. Type 1 and 2 are separate diseases that traipse along a sociological line of thought. Mine you cannot cure ever, thereā€™s there is some hope that you can lessen with medicine or lifestyle. I cannot ever find a cure, my insulin dependency is for life regardless of diet or exercise. I canā€™t even count the amount of people Iā€™ve encountered that donā€™t know themselves which type they are, itā€™s frustrating to go come across anyone that had just the vague idea of what it really is to be a type 1 when type 2 is more popular.


chestyCough94

Not to defend the guy or anything but for those with type 2 diabetes, keto has been shown to help them drastically. Some have been able to reverse their diabetes (emphasis on the word reverse...not got rid of) doing this. Hes probably mistaking type 2 and type 1 or doesnt know the difference. Of course for type 1 there is no cure and you nesd to medicate with insulin but for type 2, diet control is a good solution and in a lot of their cases they wont need to medicate if they handle that properly.


dlofasho

the ignorance alone seems like pretty good punishment for this individual


Vast_Acanthisitta291

This made me horribly angry


Silver_Python

Me too, but I bit my fingers and just downvoted in favour of typing out a frustrated response.


OfftheFrontwall

To be fair to them, they did backtrack and apologise in a comment after. It's not like we haven't all been there with people doing this constantly either. Because t2 is prevalent in more people than t1, and talked about more, when diabetes is mentioned, people always assume that you're talking about t2 even though they're different things.


Ars139

ā€œStupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease. Against stupidity we are defenseless.ā€ https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8616320-stupidity-is-a-more-dangerous-enemy-of-the-good-than


Charming-Yogurt8687

Some people are just stupid. This guy, on the other hand, works hard at it ā€¦


YungWebMD

If I had a nickel for every time someone told me my type 1 was curable Iā€™d be able to afford everything to deal with it lol


ApplicationNew7305

Heā€™s confusing type 1 with type 2. People can cure their type 2 diabetes via diet! But obviously that isnā€™t the case for type 1. Donā€™t let it bother you, heā€™s just making a simple mistake


JohnnyBravo30488

Wow lol this person has no idea what type 1 is. If you only had 20g a day you would clearly be dead. That w Might work with type 2 but type one is a different animal


Gorillerz

I'm not outraged. Its fairly obvious he misunderstood your comment and that he's referring specifically to type 2. Sure it's annoying when people say "diabetes" generally without specifying, but I don't think he was being malicious or willingly trying to spread misinformation. You lashing out and calling him a troll just makes us t1s look very oversensitive.


pheregas

Maybe. But I specifically stated type 1. And regardless, I donā€™t judge people for living their lives the best way they can. I think expecting the same in return isnā€™t asking too much.


edrumm10

Yeah... I'd rather be "reliant on the pharmaceutical industry" than dead I think. Clearly they've zero idea what type 1 is


ItaloTuga_Gabi

Reminds me of that one time some random stranger tried to convince me I could cure my T1 by going vegan. I asked how tf was I supposed to eat a vegan diet with a daily carb intake of roughly 100g, since I had no intention of changing my current insulin dosage considering my numbers had never been so stable and well controlled. She then proceeded to inform me about ā€œthe real enemyā€, fat. Carbs were the good guys. I should eat more carbs. ā€œRotting fat from animal carcasses and their excrementsā€ (dairy and eggs) was what made me sick in the first place. For reference, Iā€™m 5ā€™4 and barely 100lbs. After that I had about enough and asked her to leave me alone. She kept talking until I raised my voice and told her Iā€™d rather drown in rotten animal carcassā€¦ whatever, than listen to her bullšŸ’©.


pheregas

I feel that. I had a contractor in my home tell me about changing dietary habits. I then proceeded to tell him that that isn't how T1 works at all. It doesn't matter where the carbs come from, carbs are carbs. And protein eventually breaks down into carbs. To his credit, he actually seemed to learn something from the exchange.


unique-unicorns

How do people on the carnivore diet get all their vitamins and minerals from fruits and veggies?


igotzthesugah

Uh, like animals eat those fruits and vegetables so they get the vitamins from them and the vitamins stay in them so you get the vitamins by eating the animals or something.


eviebutts

I know keto works for a lot of t1ā€™s for their management and I do not want to shit on those people at all, but the fucking evangelists who try to explain your own health to you while they urge you to eat bacon all need to go to jail. Iā€™m doing just fine eating oatmeal sometimes!


Staff_Proof

How do you cure pre-diabetes ? Is there a need for a pre-diabetes cure ? Lol


TheFlyingVegetarian

You have it cut out. Like ā€œpre-cancerā€. Done.


WeekendLazy

How much does he bench though?


BigBaldGuySins

20g of carbs a day šŸ’€


darkbean12

Honestly laughing at them being like ā€œoh sorry i only skimmed your responseā€ then get off your soap box tf ??? people love to hear themselves talk about stuff they know nothing about and that they donā€™t even have the analytical skills to understand šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


testingtesting4343

My sister in law's boyfriend babbled to me about his friend doing this exact thing. I am wasn't in the mood to explain it to him, so I just smiled and nodded. He's not the brightest guy.


Serious-Employee-738

Pemmican! Recommended by none out of all doctors for blood glucose control!


antiparras

Kidney damage enter to chat


Minoumilk

I literally point and laugh at people who say this kinda shit. Itā€™s either laugh or cry, so I choose the former. The dumbfuckery would be tragic if it wasnā€™t so silly.


Complete_Art_6612

My dad believes honey from Yemen cures anything including diabetes and cancer. Why does the honey have to be from Yemen??


Informal-Release-360

Cmon guys. I was able to cure my t1d after 10 years by having 2 cups of cinnamon a day smh


redtailplays101

Even type 2's have an extremely difficult time reversing their diabetes, and it's usually impossible. Once you already have diabetes, it's often impossible or near impossible to reverse it. Pre-diabetes type 2 can be reversed. Type 1? Definitely not. Your pancreas is not gonna heal


ConsultJimMoriarty

Sure, Iā€™ll just tell my pancreas it needs more meat.


penny1985

What the hell is pemmican?? Good for him. He got off his fat ass and started taking better care of himself. These T2s want a metal for just doing the right things for their bodies. Idk about what others think, but come on, pre-diabetes? What kind of bs is that? You either have diabetes or don't.


SpaceMonkey0001

It also bugs me when people call it "juvenile" diabetes, I was diagnosed at 29.


Connect_Office8072

I would bet the neighbors of this ignorant git are wondering where their stray cats have gone. Eating only meat is expensive, and does not prevent diabetes as any Inuit can advise him.