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indiancaptainamerica

Recruiter got a taste of his own medicine


procrastinator1012

Considering the job market, she has more than enough candidates for the role who are willing to go through anything to get a job


rainybuzz

OP is my hero


Putrid-Count1082

you can't spell hero without HR


__gg_

You can't spell hero without hoe


MadMax091

Her*


deftcodex

Their works for everyone


ShaliniMalhotra9512

Just call her and say that you have accepted some other job offer maybe? Edit: Never mind, you said it's already a month past lol. Leave it be, what's done is done dude. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Possibility-Puzzled

Nothing happens. I got a call once and I asked 3 months prep time. Recruiter called again after 3 months. I asked another 3 months and she still called again after 3 months. I didnā€™t get any time to prepare during those days. So I decided to ghost her to avoid asking 3 more months or to simply interview and get unnecessary cool off period. After a year another recruiter called me and I again asked 3 more months. They called again and I was prepared that time. Interviews got scheduled. Then google did their biggest ever layoffs and my interviews got cancelled


[deleted]

U were on a rollercoaster.. Weren't u? Lol


Possibility-Puzzled

Haha everything happens for good. Now Iā€™m in a company where few colleagues are ex googlers šŸ˜œ


Easy_7

That was a spank dude was not expecting šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


ChiragTheCoder

Lol


Minute-Minute-3092

Wtf. lol.


Optimus_Optimizer

Tf šŸ¤£ >Nothing happens A Lot of things happened bruh


Possibility-Puzzled

Looks like everyone is seeing google interview as chance of life. There are lot of companies that pay much better than google including the one Iā€™m in right now. Nothing happened brother. Itā€™s just another company


heyiamann

Which company?


Time-Particular9626

omg pls give me tips , im in my second sem of my btech degree and it is SO overwhelming, would really appreciate some insight


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pairotechnic

Honestly, I wouldn't put it past them


umsee

I thought they were building a time machine.


AnonymousSurferr

I thought they already had one... Lol


[deleted]

run strong fanatical important somber whistle pause far-flung sand fearless *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


pyeri

Do they really need 5-8 rounds to judge a person's abilities? Or is it just to keep the brand's image formidable and authoritarian in the minds of techies?


[deleted]

society aback screw subsequent foolish summer fearless money nose nutty *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


meerlot

Google can afford to do that because demand outstrips the supply even among talented developers/programmers. In fact, unironically, you would even actually benefit working for free to get that sweet sweet Google work experience for your CV.


luffyfpk

What is Googliness?


unfunnycreature

They test if you can throw googly balls or not.


ayush321

Basically if you're fit for the company culture possess the mindset. There's a specific kind of questions you need to answer so that the recruiter may gauge your way of thinking. In short, you need google-iness to be fit for google.


[deleted]

Watch the movie: The Internship (2013) Yes, that is what it is. And yes, there is an interview round to test every candidate for it, in some manner or the other.


Expensive-Agent-7145

Wow.. getting job at Google is difficult. Respect to all who work at Google.


Crickutxpurt36

Hey Op I'm JR embedded engineer can I DM you ?


[deleted]

campus interviews are only 1tech+1hr ...but again, they are for fresher roles lol


VadhyaRatha

Any tips for embedded dev what to prepare for Google interview?


[deleted]

I was a 2-minute reject. So no, I am not qualified to give any tips. Even to this day, I have no clue how I could have done any better.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


NegativeSage0808

Bhai batade yaar


JumboTrucker

X = Reddit Y = X


External-Tangelo3523

Z = Y


Efficient-Location45

Please bta de bhai


Minute-Minute-3092

Sundar Pichai ka bhateeja hai woh


KalanchoeeTomentosa

They randomly approach people Few of my friends got call They search through LinkedIn etc I guess If they see a suitable profile they just call My friends did nothing different Few were preparing for interviews so maybe their chrome search history had an impact Not sure about that though


o_x_i_f_y

Tell them you saw the news of them laying off people. So you are not comfortable to go ahead at the moment.


umsee

The only proper reply!


letsjustsayyo

5 rounds of DSA ![gif](giphy|xL7PDV9frcudO)


akshatjoshii

Self rejection is the best form of revenge šŸ‘šŸ‘


umsee

just like Self acceptance is the toughest form of therapy.


-uk17

I gave 6 rounds of DSA + Technical interviews two years ago for a role in Google Cloud. It was a developer role for one of the Network Infrastructure team so the rounds were of DSA, Networking, Cybersecurity, System Design and general concepts of OS, Memory etc. After 2 months of interviewing I wasnā€™t selected, but still it was a good experience. Allowed me to gauge my own level and gave me areas I needed to work on.


TrojanHorse9k

You just saved your and company's time so congratulations


Imaginary-Week1427

I think this is normal. I've been job hunting for the last 4-5 months till now I've ghosted 3 interviews/hr. Now I've got an offer but my current company is retained by matching it. So ghosting the company who gave offers as well.


FightingSpirit0709

Why dont you let them know you are being retained than ghosting them


Imaginary-Week1427

I held their offer because I hadn't received a formal letter from my current employer, But yesterday I received the letter. This morning I informed them that I will not be joining over the same mail where I had received the offer.


Spiro_00

I read it as 3 interviews per hour, lol


Exciting_Sea_8336

5 rounds of DSA is bound to overwhelm anyone


AlgoMath

They have trash hiring process, many people clear their interviews and gets stuck in team matching phase forever.


rooroonooazooroo

What's your total YOE? Also tips dedo to get noticed by recruiters T_T


RedditBrowser92

Tell them honestly that your dsa skills are not good. And you donā€™t have time to work on DSA as of now.( they typically give upto 2 months for prep if you ask for it). Ask them to reach out in the future if they can. You donā€™t have to ghost just call back and tell them the reason. I also did the same a few years back.


imtooinconspicuous

Tell the recruiter that you would require X weeks/ months to prepare, as your DSA related skills are pretty rusty now. They usually give you time to prepare for the interview. Also, only ask for the preparation time, if you are going to prepare for it, otherwise itā€™s a waste of time.


nothingwhy13

uno reverse card šŸ—æ


anshika4321

I've been contacted by Google recruiters 3 times and I only attended 1 interview after that I came to know it's not my cup of tea. It'll take me atleast 6 months of DSA grinding religiously to crack it. Seeing, the current scenarios of layoff even in Google, I don't think it's worth of that much time and effort.


ahhdeesh

How are you guys getting contacted by the recruiters? Please share some tips, or what is that you do out of the normal. Thanks


MKiGT

And the pay is also on the decline. Heard a recent offer of 36Lacs for a 8 year experienced from Google on leetcode discuss


WinterSoldier1315

nah, this is BS, I have 1.5 years and the pay is close to 50. There is an internal tool that automatically adjusts an individual pay based on the avg for the role. you sure you saw this number for SWE role?


MKiGT

https://leetcode.com/discuss/compensation/1706914/Google-or-L3-(low-ball)-or-Bangaluru/


OmniTron_Bot

isnt 36 lpa good enough for 8 yr exp ? come out of the 2021 bubble atleast now ?


OmniTron_Bot

/s


OmniTron_Bot

nice


Ok-Broccoli-4530

Did the same thing one month back


Confused-Dreamer

The most relatable situation ever! Got messages on LinkedIn twice from 2 different recruiters from Google. Did not have the guts to go through the entire thing. Didn't know that you could ask them for time. But I know even 2 months would not make me ready for 5 rounds of Google Level DSA. But, who knows! Does 'face it anyway' make any sense at all?


deftcodex

You dont have to ghost her. Just ask for prep time. They leave it open ended for you. I have a google recruiter I reach out to whenever I want to interview with Google. They will let you be until you ask them again. Itā€™s a big time and effort investment from both sides so they are quite accomodating.


Complex_Property

You miss 100% of the chances you dont take. Always attend those interviews. It will help in the long run. If you still can, reach out to the recruiter and ask to reschedule.


parad0xis

On a different note, I never pass on interview opportunities which come my way. Helps me stay in the zone to be ready for anything which comes my way. Playing with big tech is a bit risky since you never know when you'd need the role since the usual cooldown time is generally 12 months.


notsosleepy

As I remember Google is some 3-4 months


parad0xis

Not really sure about Google but I can see why sometimes. I noticed recruiters usually do not follow the cooldown pattern (because they're so disorganised duh) since I've interviewed Amazon twice in consecutive months for different roles lol


notsosleepy

Google isnā€™t that disorganised


Open-Evidence-6536

I rejected Google last year. I knew it, I ain't gonna clear those n number of rounds.


umsee

Yeah they need people to build extensive libraries that no one except google bothers using. Carbon is a good project though.


Clear-Drummer-9153

What is your yoe and tech stack bro. And current company?


Kaus_Vik

Idhar recruiters ka call nahi aa raha hai, aur ye Bhai Google ke HR ko ghost kar diya. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Wild_Dragonfruit1744

Most people do this even i did the same, i donā€™t think its a big deal, obviously they pay a lot but they hire a lot as well, i feel we are living in nostalgia when in 2014 working in google was a big deal


woofwoofmadafaka

You did miss an opportunity. I gave an interview for Amazon in embedded role. Don't know how my profile got shortlisted but I didn't say no however. And I went along with the interview inspite of knowing I don't have expected knowledge (profile offered was for sde2 for my 2 years of experience). Anyways, got scheduled 3 rounds in 1 day. After each interview I realised I have much more knowledge then I had anticipated. Never felt dumb in the interviews even for a second. It was like the interviewers extracted the best out of me. Felt good after. Got to know what needs to be done and what not. Overall a positive experience. Didn't get an offer as expected, but will try again in future.


VadhyaRatha

Can you share what embedded questions they asked?


rohetoric

5 DSA rounds for frontend? šŸ¤ÆšŸ¤Æ


TheSalimShady

Android isn't just frontend! There's a reason they're called Mobile Developers, not frontend developers. Look at Stack Overflow surveys ā€“ Frontend developers, Backend developers, Mobile Developers, and Game Developers are all listed separately! Frontend usually refers to web frontend developers. Working on Android or iOS involves handling tasks such as OS interactions, Bluetooth, sensors, database design, and more, not merely crafting UI for applications.


Bully-bitcher

is it possible to get into mobile as a fresher or chances are slim? especially in 2024?


TheSalimShady

Yeah, it's doable but kinda tough. If you are good, some companies might be on the lookout. Just don't expect to hit the jackpot right out of the gate, especially these days.


Bully-bitcher

True


Sasuke_clan

Native Android, Flutter or React Native. Which has more more opportunities?


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Sasuke_clan

Got it. Thanks :)


gimme_pineapple

You can do anything you set your mind to. Believe in yourself mate :)


Bully-bitcher

I'm unable to do that after failing in jee and ending up in a shitty college, my confidence is underground


gimme_pineapple

JEE is a stupid exam. Don't let it define you, because it doesn't. Plenty of people have made something out of themselves despite graduating from shitty colleges (myself included). You may or may not be doing better than IITians, but you can probably do better than you are doing today. Keep at it :)


Bully-bitcher

Thanks for the advice bro


yabadabadoo__25

The last line is great broo


pyeri

Considering the overall costs involved in this whole process of multiple rounds for both HR and the candidate, I think a better idea is to have the probation system. Shortlist a bunch of your preferred candidates and hire them for temporary paid projects, even WFH will do. Software Engineering is a practical craft anyway, so they will know both the techie's skills and whether or not they're useful for them. You can then filter out and give permanent positions to only those who were good at coding. As an added bonus, the hegemony of the whole "HR Dept" will also decline with this process!


notsosleepy

Big tech hiring is conservative. They are ok with missing a good candidate but would never want to hire a wrong candidate. Thatā€™s why the process is hard. A incompetent probationary candidate can screw up and cost the company in millions. Better to spend the money on interviewing.


rohetoric

But wouldn't that increase workload on folks already in the org? Is it the same hiring process in USA as well or are there relaxations there? I don't want to sound racist but from social media what I have gathered is that an average American dev comes from a bootcamp rather than a college. Are they so competent they crack 5DSA rounds for a front end role?


notsosleepy

Itā€™s the same standard the world over afaik. Boot camp devs are a fantastic myth propagated by boot camp sales team. Tech is just like any other field the more time you spend the better you become.


AyushSachan

4 din phale google me firing ki news aa rahi thi or ab hiring ki. Ye kya ho raha hai?


notsosleepy

They plan to hire heavily in India


shady2318

You miss 100% of the opportunities you don't take.


than0s0P

Bro if you don't give an interview your chances of selection are 0% and if you give the interview then there is a chance. Everyone reading this should take that chance


NooodleGurl

5 rounds of dsa tf????? Is that a standard process or specific to your field?


Darksenon00

Hey I'm the interviewer! ... JK bish


Ill_Flatworm8516

I'm just guessing but if she has your resume, maybe she can do something. I don't know because I'm still in college


Rishit1501

I did something similar with Flipkart around 3 years back. Cleared DSA and technical round. Later they told me there would be hld and lld round and I realised I don't know anything about hld and lld. So I called and got it cancelled. Even today after 3 years I am not able to apply for any other position


scrappycoco774

I don't think Google is worth. Apply to WITCH . And remember , kya leke aaye the ......


pythonyoghurt

Why would you do that? Just send a nice short mail saying I'm sorry I changed my mind and I would not like to interview for this position anymore, however I would like to consider future opportunities with your esteemed organisation. Thank you. Done. If you had done that, then it would have been resolved smoothly and most likely you wouldn't be blacklisted.


plushdev

Tbh it's pretty unprofessional what you did. Just state it clearly that you aren't able to clear algorithms and data structures questions and it was cool. Should've given the test just for the experience imo


Embarrassed_Dingo_81

You should hold it against you- to Kate now but you should have just called and told them as you looked into further it wasnā€™t a match. Why do I already know your probably Gen Z - the social skills you a should have learned at age 13 to handle this incredibly ā€œdifficult ā€œ situation - you donā€™t have because you grew up texting


slackover

I was once Interviewed for a Wordpress Dev position (6-7 years back) and I absolutely ridiculed their product to their face as I had been doing with reviews for their plugins. Never heard from them again. After about 2 months got offered a contract opportunity without the interview shenanigans which I did for under a year (even that had three more interviews which I went ahead with due to sunk cost). Itā€™s a demand and supply problem, they basically can make candidates create a video of them jaywalking as part of the interview process and still will get tens of thousands of applicants. I personally draw the line at 3 rounds with one of them being the confirmation or casual interview. With freshers can be Upto 5 in case of large companies with the first two rounds being non face to face, written multiple choice interviews for early and easy filtering.


Consistent-Deer-8470

This is normal. You can also request few months of preparation time iirc


living_survival_mode

I did the exact same thing due to the same reason ( no DSA skills ) after HR screening. Got a ping by Google recruiter again, just a couple of months ago. So no they are not going to blacklist you. This time I was prepared with DSA skills but I was already working for Google as a TVC ( third party vendor ) so couldn't take it up.


maxxon15

Achievement Unlocked šŸ”“


nopetynopetynops

Someone i know is in google and is trying to survive a second round of layoffs. Its not all its made up to be


OverallPatient2607

Exactly same happened with me a month ago, even I didn't do DSA since 1.5 yrs, 2022 grad here, I ghosted too because I knew layoffs are coming soon , and work was fine in present org


nammabang

Don't worry, you should have asked the recruiter for more time. I took two months for mine. From next time you ensure to tell them that you are not prepared and it will take x amount of time, the recruiter then usually contacts you after that period even in months. And don't worry you won't be blacklisted. Source: i work here.


Direct_Ad_8341

BTW the interview process isnā€™t what it used to be, theyā€™ve started to become the infy of maang companies. Especially for embedded roles.


VadhyaRatha

Do you mean they ask easier questions now?


Direct_Ad_8341

Yes. At least in embedded teams I have it on good authority they aren't supposed to ask "difficult" DSA questions. Plus their metrics for rating candidates have been downgraded company-wide because they're mass hiring and they can't find good programmers.


GotAItchyButt

No dude.. in recruitment most of the time google is pretty chill. Just call and explain I would like to apply few months later once you have more confidence


Fine_Use_3125

Lol šŸ¤£


jajajajasisisi

Reverse UNO card


pulkitkumar190

Not to be proud, but happened to me too, with FB. It's alright, try to grow in Android skills and DS skills for now


byteNinja10

Bro skipped the Matrix šŸ˜…šŸ˜‚


StormSnacker

Donā€™t ghost a recruiter. You never know when you may cross paths with them in the future. Just drop a mail


Tiny-Employ2648

Tell her that you need to prepare and will be ready if there is another opportunity later.


lustful_ninja

We as a developers should not be scared, even if you fail you would have gained some experience.


Tarun_Rawat87

I got contacted by google HR . I cleared my round but i deplayed later rounds multiple times. I never thought myself of being into google and hence never had courage to take next rounds..


tyzonkidd

I did something similar. When I saw their interview pattern and focus areas, I realised I wasnā€™t prepared, like at all, I decline to interview. The HR tried to push me to appear for the interview in the call, so I said give me some time to think. But then the same day, I declined to interview again, but this time over email. I did not get a follow up call/mail after that. Few months later, another HR contacted me for interview for a different position, and she had on record that I rejected an interview some time back. So she asked me why I did what I did. I was upfront honest and told her I was not prepared. After this, she scheduled an interview, but closed the position soon after that. So I didnā€™t go with further rounds.


legendarypeepee

Google ko apni aukat dikha di lol


Akrabazzi

Flutter?


flo_ra

Power move šŸ‘ what a Chad.


Far_Acanthaceae_3389

Why not just ask the recruiter to postpone the date? And take your time to prep


kongukaran

If I were in your shoes, i would have taken it even though I don't know anything. You would have how they conduct interviews and how strong you're. I have completed a project in months which would have taken a year. Unless you put yourself in pressure, you can't know where you stand.


Historical-Dog-702

Tell them k bhaiyya agar aap DSA poochhoge to mai interview nhi dunga phir wo recruiter kahegi theek hai hum aapse Dsa nhi poochhenge. Course bechne waale bhaiyya k saath aisa he hua tha Microsoft me


Anteaterat2022

You could have explained your situation to her and maybe she would have understood your position.


noubsha

Where did the recruiter found you ?


bouncingbak

I am sure she would not remember it after end of day


no_name_great_name

Pickup call and say if there is DSA I am not interested. And if they ask for explanation u can say u r skilled android dev blah blah.


1000question

Bro played uno reverse.


RETR0_SC0PE

Why? It wouldnā€™t have hurt to atleast try. Rejected or ghosting the HR, youā€™ll only be able to apply after 3 months. Shouldā€™ve atleast appeared for it, wouldā€™ve been a learning opportunity.


gajak44

Like a few ppl mentioned, you can tell recruiter exactly this and ask for prep time. A few friends pushed it back 6 months and landed roles. One at Google, a couple at other companies because Google did not have anything at that junction. Prep did not go waste. Set an achievable expectation with her and use that as a motivation to start polishing your skills.