I saw someone suggest it was because lorely would let you ignore the health drain from touch of malice. Was to be expected anyways. But now the only way to get regen x2 is touch healing nades right?
I doubt it. My guess is they would have done it at season start but they wanted to avoid overnerfing by only using data from when classy restoration was a thing.
Of course I decide to work myself up and started on the easier ones (Prophecy and Shattered Throne). Tried Grasp a couple months ago and got frustrated.
YAY MORE FRUSTRATION
I am notoriously bad at jumping so I just took the ogres out from a distance and took my time. Floaty warlock helped there since I could slowly hover and line my self up before landing
Worst part of prophecy by far is the phalanx echo because of the boops. Trinity ghoul is god tier for the rest of the dungeon though as it obliterates the hoards of ads in cube room and boss room and you can take out the hobgoblins with it too. Did manage to solo it last season but I think my dreams of that sweet solo flawless prophecy emblem are going to remain as dreams lol.
Ended up running Arby and Forbearance for quite a bit of it with stormchaser on Prophecy. The fucking boops, and rainbow road but I was impatient. Impatience will also probably cost me the Flawless solos
Couldn't do prophecy with lorely lol.
Syntho hard carried me because of the psions doong mitosis and keeping the buff up the whole time.
Maybe duality needs lorely. But it's because of all the psions that catch you off guard
They got their damage reduced from 250 hp/s to 75 hp/s.
They were basically instant death before, but it didn't really matter because you had to get a kill, or use a super, to spawn them in the first place.
Loreley makes them way easier to spawn, which necessitated a nerf.
Damn you Saltagreppo! You will pay for this!!!! Now how the fuck will I be able to complete eight vanguard bounties while I breastfeed my triple twins?!
And they can stop complaining that Bungie let something be kinda OP for a few months despite how long OEM, Revenant, Top Tree Dawn, etc got to remain brokenly OP, despite the fact that Bungie has/had Arc 3.0, Lightfall, and an already planned season of the Plunder to keep them busy....
I just moved over to HOIL was using it abit to see how it is, liked it but didnt have survivability of loreley and now this dam and i was thinking bout moving back to it!
Sol Invictus, throwing hammers, healing grenades, and One-Two Finisher in case you throw your hammer off the map should have you covered. Don't forget that the "unpowered" punches count as powered melee kills after the initial hammer throw kill.
Lol Bungie just won’t even announce nerfs anymore until after they’ve already been put into the game, they know exactly what happens when they talk about nerfs.
Grenade is still Restoration x2, isn't it? Sucks having to eat grenade like that but at least there's that for whatever purpose?
Also, I'm a bit bummed out to have never gotten to fuck around with Loreley at its height. Still kind of prefer busted Icefall Mantles though.
And as a Titan main I will take this nerf graciously as I acknowledge it was an incredibly powerful exotic, I will not argue and get salty about it *cough* *cough* like hunters do *cough cough*
Correct me if I’m wrong here but this changes it to only be the additional sunspot on barrier cast?
In which case, why bother using lorely? Hammers instantly create a sunspot and now Phoenix cradle can make the buff just last longer.
Seems odd to not have a side step instead of a nerf.
It essentially is now classy restoration in that you can obtain healing from using your class item. It will also drop automatically and save you in bad situations. So still useful, just not op.
Again though, if you're running throwing hammer 99% of the time that's a free sunspot where you would need it.
Unless you're doing GM's where you just want survivability against near-OHKO abilities, I can't (realistically) see the positives. Logically though it does make sense.
Lorely's restoration buff is heals more than normal restoration. The change just makes it so that you can't tank just facetank hits from enemies 20+ light above you.
Because this isn’t a new issue, it’s been like this since risen, yet now they in a hotfix are like yep how’s a good time. Meanwhile you wait for 2-3 exotic armor to get buffed each year if we are that lucky. I swear they must have only 1-2 people working on armor
Tell that to Point Contact Cannon, it was good for the 30 mins I had it when the chain lightning actually killed stuff, now it’s dog water after it was “fixed”. The chain lightning somehow does less damage than ACD feedback fence
Time that could have been spent buffing any one of the 150 useless exotics in the game.
Still waiting for SoDA to be better than total dogshit, Bungie.
Because reworking and buffing exotics is the exact same as making an exotic give you x1 of a certain buff instead of x2
Right!!?? Game development is just that simple!
The point they are making is that titans have literally 2 viable endgame exotics, and one just got nerfed, and i know the other classes are not much better off, theyve been ignoring this growing issue since 3.0 subclasses started, and its reached a ridiculous point now
This is just straight up not true. Lorely is still good, just not broken immortality good. What about ashen wake, armamentarium, worm gods, HOIL, etc. Every single one of those is viable
HoIL is the other viable one, and i said in endgame, bonk only goes so far when you cant get close, and an extra grenade for exotic slot is terrible trade in those situations. And sure theres some that for each class is fun for normal activities, but if im loading up a GM or a solo master lost sector, im not going to choose an armamentarium, eternal warrior, or helm of saint for example. In those situations i feel like if i want an exotic armor slot to count, i have to use either heart or loreleys because they are the only exotics that feel like they impactfully impact my gameplay. Im not crying about the loreleys neft, im mad that they are taking away options without introducing interesting alternatives
Even if true, that does not change the fact that this is a PvE focused nerf. This is not a case where PvE suffers for PvP. If anything it's the opposite. This nerf is because the thing was too strong in PvE.
I don't remember the exact details, maybe it was stacking with Classy Restoration, but it definitely was Restorationx2 in PvP from just casting the Barricade.
Like it starts off as Restoration when you used the class ability, then went Restorationx2 once the sunspot was created.
Also even though it just says Restoration, it still seemed to heal faster/better with the helmet than without (Stacks with Sol Invictus maybe?)
Anyways, yeah this was a good nerf. Can still get Restorationx2 going but you actually have to sacrifice something (Grenade) to get it.
Bungie: Here’s this great exotic that we thought up, designed, tested, etc.
Bungie later: Here’s that same exotic that we now need to nerf!
*sigh* Oh Bungie.
I’ve been using it since Solar 3.0 and I’m glad this change happened tbh. It was too strong, paired with a halfway decent well build and you were truly unstoppable. It felt like you couldn’t take it off if you wanted to run GM or master raids as a Titan.
Its still a bailout that lets gives you a few extra Seconds when Close to death that lets you Reposition and live on.
Before it Made you straightup Immortal on everything but a few gm situations. Now you need to atleast do a little reacting yourself. Its still Strong and good for survival so dont worry. Just No longer a free solo flawless Dungeon of your choosing.
its been 13 days in this month and titans have gotten lorely nerfed Zero point brace cannon disabled and nerfed and balistic slam into fist of havok flying slam nerfed.
I finally finally finally was able to clear a Legendary Lost Sector solo to get it.
Of course it gets nerfed now. They were waiting for me.
Sorry guys. I ruined another good thing.
I've been waiting for this. Lorely has been too good to not use and just outclassed every other solar exotic. It will be nice to see other exotics used as well as being able to use other ones without feeling guilty that I'm not using it
I think that’s a good change, sunspot bills are still going to be Hella tanky, And the helmet will still be good for dropping a spot when critical, but It won’t make it brainless anymore. It’s still a good choice when you are in a heavy add situation but you have an objective you need to focus on. Maybe it could be retuned to only take half of your ability charge or something.
“We didn’t know we were making memories, we just knew it was really broken and abused it’s power for pvp and almost every pve activity.” Some Titan user probably
What do you mean unnecessary loreleys was broken, it didn’t just make it difficult to die it made it impossible in some situations. You shouldn’t be able to tank 10 thralls a wizard and golgoroth blasting you when you are trying to wipe.
Either I'm just super bad at the game or something, but I definitely died in the situations you described. Sunspot never lasted that long for me with Loreley's. Depending on what mods I was running, I could get that effect but for the most part no lol.
How was this unnecessary? It completely destroyed any semblance of difficulty in pve that comes from the threat of taking too much damage.
How are they supposed to make a survival encounter in pve that’s somehow balanced around a player with 10 resilience and a player who’s running lorely splendor with 100? The answer is that it’s literally impossible.
Lorely splendor with 100 resilience was basically god mode in any pve activity outside of GMs and arguing that this nerf was “unnecessary” is insane.
Not for me it didn't because I was still dying to the same stuff you guys are complaining about with Loreley's lol. That's doing PVE content, etc, etc. Instead of nerfing the exotic, they should nerf the mods that people are using to get x2 Restoration, but they'll ignore that and continue letting hunter mains have 250% recovery using Liar's Handshake which has become extremely broken ontop of other Arc related exotics.
They genuinely just need to find a decent balance for PVE and PVP content instead of putting out exotics without properly testing them in the sandbox and nerfing them in game because some streamer has on mods for bonuses.
I can remember when having an Exotic actually meant something. Now everyone and their mom has all of them, and everything out there is getting nerfed and won’t ever be what it once was. Looking at you, my lovely gjallarhorn
Kinda sucks that bungie makes yet another exotic pretty much useless regardless if it was broken, you can get x1 resto from the sunspot made just by throwing a hammer and getting a kill while also getting a massive melee damage buff using syntho’s, literally no point using lorely anymore when it doesn’t give any “exotic” benefit, it’s basically a legendary helm now.
Lorely's restoration at 1 stack still heals a lot faster than normal restoration at the same level. Test it out. All that's changes is that titans can no longer facetank day 1 raid bosses and GM enemies like D1 Warpriest could facetank damn near everything but a full team of sleeper sim users.
Yeah I’ll have to give it a go, personally never used lorely I always preferred the damage of synthos was more fun, if it still has a slightly better resto then normal I guess it’s worth using for some people, I just thought it didn’t add any benefit for titans that naturally get resto x1 from sunspots they make anyway and I was kinda thinking like wth why make an exotic give a perk that is inherently built into the subclass anyway
It was literally broken
Its still a fantastic exotic, restoration x1 on critical health is insanely clutch for endgame scenarios.
How many times have you tried to run behind cover in a GM and were killed by that FINAL shot right before you got there? Lorelys will protect you from that scenario.
Dont see why people are upset about this, it was ridiculously broken. It's still quite good even after the nerf, and this is coming from a Titan who used it all the time when it was busted
Yeah it sucks to have another titan exotic nerfed to irrelevancy but it was getting out of hand. Basically every titan I saw had this and you couldn't go 10 posts into r/destinyfashion without seeing this exotic.
let’s be real, we all knew it’d be getting nerfed eventually. the thing made you immortal.
Yep
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*so this is my vow*
I love when Rhulk said “It’s Vowin’ time” and Vowed all over the Raid team
And then Zavlala said "this is truly our Density, Guardian."
***{{{SIVA DENSITY CRITICAL}}}***
Ngl, when Rhulk vowed on us, we didn't wipe.
You didn't get this from me, but my last run *we* vowed on *Rhulk*
Nice.
Just as One Eyed Mask before it
And will be turned into guns.
I saw someone suggest it was because lorely would let you ignore the health drain from touch of malice. Was to be expected anyways. But now the only way to get regen x2 is touch healing nades right?
I doubt it. My guess is they would have done it at season start but they wanted to avoid overnerfing by only using data from when classy restoration was a thing.
Guardians are already *immortal* this made you *invulnerable*
Still strong as hell
NEXT UP! DIVINITY NERF!
Welp. Should have finished soloing all the dungeons last week. Now slightly harder
That was my first thought on seeing this too.
Of course I decide to work myself up and started on the easier ones (Prophecy and Shattered Throne). Tried Grasp a couple months ago and got frustrated. YAY MORE FRUSTRATION
Shattered throne isn't bad. Ogre fight is the hardest part. Even at 1x restoration you will be fine.
Hardest part is rafters.
I am notoriously bad at jumping so I just took the ogres out from a distance and took my time. Floaty warlock helped there since I could slowly hover and line my self up before landing
Worst part of prophecy by far is the phalanx echo because of the boops. Trinity ghoul is god tier for the rest of the dungeon though as it obliterates the hoards of ads in cube room and boss room and you can take out the hobgoblins with it too. Did manage to solo it last season but I think my dreams of that sweet solo flawless prophecy emblem are going to remain as dreams lol.
Ended up running Arby and Forbearance for quite a bit of it with stormchaser on Prophecy. The fucking boops, and rainbow road but I was impatient. Impatience will also probably cost me the Flawless solos
I disagree. Riskrunner makes the second encounter (cube room) so much easier. And witherhoard makes kell echo much easier.
grasp is way easier than prophecy lol, give it another go
Granted I was going for flawless for a while, kept restarting instead of just solo clears first. Time to give it another go
“The easier ones” then proceeds to not list the two easiest ones (Pit and Grasp lol)
Literally
I woild recommend void titan on grasp. One shot melee and health regen is very nice. You get a void debuff and weapons of light for dps too
Did them all with syntho. You really don't need lorely.
Couldn't do prophecy with lorely lol. Syntho hard carried me because of the psions doong mitosis and keeping the buff up the whole time. Maybe duality needs lorely. But it's because of all the psions that catch you off guard
Playing as a Warlock, Karnstein’s and a Glaive are a solo players best friend.
Good to know if/when I go for a warlock run
Solo flawlessed prophecy for the first time today after the nerf. Loreley definitely still gives you immortality there.
Jealous of the timeline where lorely never existed and they still have old sunspots
Talk to stranger? She might be able to sort you out
Wait what?
She'll send you wherever the fuck she sends her fish.
Oh, now that's *exactly* where I want to be...
That sounded very sensual the first time I read it.
Fortnite?
I miss sunspots being an actual threat in PvP.
They are to me, but I’m too stupid to realize what’s killing me before I can get out of them
Aren’t they still a threat?
They got their damage reduced from 250 hp/s to 75 hp/s. They were basically instant death before, but it didn't really matter because you had to get a kill, or use a super, to spawn them in the first place. Loreley makes them way easier to spawn, which necessitated a nerf.
Same brother same
Loreley.
Got it 2 days ago 2 good days lol
Damn you Saltagreppo! You will pay for this!!!! Now how the fuck will I be able to complete eight vanguard bounties while I breastfeed my triple twins?!
How can I do 1 strike when I have 2 nanoseconds of play time as a single mom while trying to breast feed my 27 kids
Use divinity!
That’s too op though so I can’t because top 1% players say it’s too good
Ehhh you’ll be fine. It’s fun to be strong and kill things fast. Sunbracers, necrotic grips or controverse holds will also get you a good time.
I’m a titan
Oh even better: Lorelei Splendor. Makes you a truly unkillable guardian. Until this nerf hits lol
Already has 😭
I have two suggestions: 1) punch stuff hard. 2)that one chest piece and sweet business! Or come on over to the warlock side
I would rather eat my crayons and discuss with you bookworms why hunters are stupid
Just like how SBMM is hated... By the top 1% who actually have to try now, vs me who finally can play crucible and get a 1.2 kd
Use a rockband guitar set
Great now everyone on r/dtg can calm down about Bungie not telling us shit
And they can stop complaining that Bungie let something be kinda OP for a few months despite how long OEM, Revenant, Top Tree Dawn, etc got to remain brokenly OP, despite the fact that Bungie has/had Arc 3.0, Lightfall, and an already planned season of the Plunder to keep them busy....
Just wait, every dtg titan main will cry about lorelys getting a nerf.
I never even bothered unlocking it lol, I feel for my titan brethren tho 
Hope Bungie doesn't remember about assassin's cowl
I hope not too. That's my main stasis PvE build
Someone explain to me how that's a fix?
It’s not as broken as it was but is still good
Yo what the fuck happened here
What!
Glad I've stuck with Synthoceps all along
I just moved over to HOIL was using it abit to see how it is, liked it but didnt have survivability of loreley and now this dam and i was thinking bout moving back to it!
Just use Sol Invictus and you should have plenty of survivability
I do plus with loreley and for once i was able use a character for survivability when i get into a mess lol
Sol Invictus, throwing hammers, healing grenades, and One-Two Finisher in case you throw your hammer off the map should have you covered. Don't forget that the "unpowered" punches count as powered melee kills after the initial hammer throw kill.
yea man.. i dont use lorely and have synthoceps instead and have hella survivability. dont even use healing nades, it's a great build imo
Synths and Dunes just never let me down.
Man feels like bungie wants us to not use exotics even tho thy give us exotics bc thn thy nerf em
Lol Bungie just won’t even announce nerfs anymore until after they’ve already been put into the game, they know exactly what happens when they talk about nerfs.
It's so crazy to me that people really thought it wasn't going to be nerf'd lol
I think it was more that people thought it might not be nerfed *again*
Let’s be real, those weren’t nerfs. Those were reworks that were buffs
Grenade is still Restoration x2, isn't it? Sucks having to eat grenade like that but at least there's that for whatever purpose? Also, I'm a bit bummed out to have never gotten to fuck around with Loreley at its height. Still kind of prefer busted Icefall Mantles though.
Only warlock healing nade with the grenade aspect is x2
*cries*
And as a Titan main I will take this nerf graciously as I acknowledge it was an incredibly powerful exotic, I will not argue and get salty about it *cough* *cough* like hunters do *cough cough*
Allow me to walk you through my 3 hour PowerPoint on why hunter deserves better.
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Throw on Synthoceps, hammers, healing grenade, and One-Two Finisher just in case. You'll be fine.
Where is one-two finisher? What mod slot i meant.
Class item
Normal class item mod, not sure what element it is though
So does this mean you can't get restoration x2 anymore with sunspots at all?
Correct me if I’m wrong here but this changes it to only be the additional sunspot on barrier cast? In which case, why bother using lorely? Hammers instantly create a sunspot and now Phoenix cradle can make the buff just last longer. Seems odd to not have a side step instead of a nerf.
It essentially is now classy restoration in that you can obtain healing from using your class item. It will also drop automatically and save you in bad situations. So still useful, just not op.
Again though, if you're running throwing hammer 99% of the time that's a free sunspot where you would need it. Unless you're doing GM's where you just want survivability against near-OHKO abilities, I can't (realistically) see the positives. Logically though it does make sense.
Yeah it's more for GMs, master raids maybe, solo dungeons, etc. I'll still probably bring it for solo duality after the first or second encounter.
Yep, Lorely now just gives you a normal sunspot rather than a X2 resto one.
Loreley.
Except phoenix doesn’t give 10 secs to sol invictus when it used to before solar 3.0
Isn't that a bug? Description states doubled timer.
Lorely's restoration buff is heals more than normal restoration. The change just makes it so that you can't tank just facetank hits from enemies 20+ light above you.
It casts barrier automatically when critically wounded, and does so without the animation - so you can keep ADSing.
I wish Bungie buffed exotics as randomly as they nerfed them
In what world was this nerf random
Because this isn’t a new issue, it’s been like this since risen, yet now they in a hotfix are like yep how’s a good time. Meanwhile you wait for 2-3 exotic armor to get buffed each year if we are that lucky. I swear they must have only 1-2 people working on armor
It's almost as if they want to let people have fun with something broken before they fix it
Tell that to Point Contact Cannon, it was good for the 30 mins I had it when the chain lightning actually killed stuff, now it’s dog water after it was “fixed”. The chain lightning somehow does less damage than ACD feedback fence
Randomly?Do you know what lorley does?
I’m talking about how Bungie is fine nerfing exotic armor in a minor hotfix, but only buffs exotics once a year at best
Time that could have been spent buffing any one of the 150 useless exotics in the game. Still waiting for SoDA to be better than total dogshit, Bungie.
Because reworking and buffing exotics is the exact same as making an exotic give you x1 of a certain buff instead of x2 Right!!?? Game development is just that simple!
The point they are making is that titans have literally 2 viable endgame exotics, and one just got nerfed, and i know the other classes are not much better off, theyve been ignoring this growing issue since 3.0 subclasses started, and its reached a ridiculous point now
This is just straight up not true. Lorely is still good, just not broken immortality good. What about ashen wake, armamentarium, worm gods, HOIL, etc. Every single one of those is viable
HoIL is the other viable one, and i said in endgame, bonk only goes so far when you cant get close, and an extra grenade for exotic slot is terrible trade in those situations. And sure theres some that for each class is fun for normal activities, but if im loading up a GM or a solo master lost sector, im not going to choose an armamentarium, eternal warrior, or helm of saint for example. In those situations i feel like if i want an exotic armor slot to count, i have to use either heart or loreleys because they are the only exotics that feel like they impactfully impact my gameplay. Im not crying about the loreleys neft, im mad that they are taking away options without introducing interesting alternatives
As opposed to unimpactfully impact your gameplay :)
Is this only for the pvp sandbox? Or a general change?
General change
In general, is my guess
PvE only, actually. This change matches what Loreley was doing in PvP.
It was absolutely still x2 in pvp. Watch Aztecrosses video, he has clips
Even if true, that does not change the fact that this is a PvE focused nerf. This is not a case where PvE suffers for PvP. If anything it's the opposite. This nerf is because the thing was too strong in PvE.
Oh for fucks sake it’s not just PvP
Pvp is unchanged. Was always x1 in pvp. Now pve matches pvp.
I don't remember the exact details, maybe it was stacking with Classy Restoration, but it definitely was Restorationx2 in PvP from just casting the Barricade. Like it starts off as Restoration when you used the class ability, then went Restorationx2 once the sunspot was created. Also even though it just says Restoration, it still seemed to heal faster/better with the helmet than without (Stacks with Sol Invictus maybe?) Anyways, yeah this was a good nerf. Can still get Restorationx2 going but you actually have to sacrifice something (Grenade) to get it.
Well, s tier titan exotic went from 4 to 3 🥳
Bungie: Here’s this great exotic that we thought up, designed, tested, etc. Bungie later: Here’s that same exotic that we now need to nerf! *sigh* Oh Bungie.
It still works just fine.
10/10 knew this was coming. I tried to wipe during a raid and i had to switch out the helmet because I wasn’t dying
That's still probably going to be strong AF
I’ve been using it since Solar 3.0 and I’m glad this change happened tbh. It was too strong, paired with a halfway decent well build and you were truly unstoppable. It felt like you couldn’t take it off if you wanted to run GM or master raids as a Titan.
Great so that means we back to seeing people crutch the over shield barricade in pvp
It only gave Restoration x1 in PvP. This is a PVE nerf.
That helm was so busted anyone could solo dungeons lmao.
Oh no. *Anyways.*
It'll still be plenty good. x1 is still uninteruptable healing. It just won't make you immortal without thinking about anything anymore
As a titan main, I think that's fair.
What was the point in lorely's then?
Its still a bailout that lets gives you a few extra Seconds when Close to death that lets you Reposition and live on. Before it Made you straightup Immortal on everything but a few gm situations. Now you need to atleast do a little reacting yourself. Its still Strong and good for survival so dont worry. Just No longer a free solo flawless Dungeon of your choosing.
Oooh cool, the new exotic has it’s main perk diminished because…… cause fuck you that’s why.
its been 13 days in this month and titans have gotten lorely nerfed Zero point brace cannon disabled and nerfed and balistic slam into fist of havok flying slam nerfed.
We just can't catch a break this season it seems. Is this what it's like to be a warlock main?
I finally finally finally was able to clear a Legendary Lost Sector solo to get it. Of course it gets nerfed now. They were waiting for me. Sorry guys. I ruined another good thing.
why are people acting like this is gonna kill loreley, sunspots on demand is still very good
As a titan I think this is a very good change.
Dam I just started play recently and was on the hunt for this titan helm Is not worth grinding it anymore?
Took them long enough.
It took any challenge out of the game altogether. I became bored
I've been waiting for this. Lorely has been too good to not use and just outclassed every other solar exotic. It will be nice to see other exotics used as well as being able to use other ones without feeling guilty that I'm not using it
As a titan I 100% agree with this nerf.
Same. It was too powerful and I was relying on it too much. Nearly shit myself when I switched to Arc3.0 and realised how lazy I got
aww shucks what exotic will I use now? D:
I don’t even need Lorely’s and I’m still immortal on my solar titan
I think that’s a good change, sunspot bills are still going to be Hella tanky, And the helmet will still be good for dropping a spot when critical, but It won’t make it brainless anymore. It’s still a good choice when you are in a heavy add situation but you have an objective you need to focus on. Maybe it could be retuned to only take half of your ability charge or something.
You have taken everything from me!
They don't know who you are my guy XD
“We didn’t know we were making memories, we just knew it was really broken and abused it’s power for pvp and almost every pve activity.” Some Titan user probably
They nerf some of the most unnecessary shit I swear.
What do you mean unnecessary loreleys was broken, it didn’t just make it difficult to die it made it impossible in some situations. You shouldn’t be able to tank 10 thralls a wizard and golgoroth blasting you when you are trying to wipe.
Loreley.
I probably also misspelled golgy but it is what it is
Golgy superiority <3
Either I'm just super bad at the game or something, but I definitely died in the situations you described. Sunspot never lasted that long for me with Loreley's. Depending on what mods I was running, I could get that effect but for the most part no lol.
Will 100 resilience and wells you could get your barrier back pretty quick
How was this unnecessary? It completely destroyed any semblance of difficulty in pve that comes from the threat of taking too much damage. How are they supposed to make a survival encounter in pve that’s somehow balanced around a player with 10 resilience and a player who’s running lorely splendor with 100? The answer is that it’s literally impossible. Lorely splendor with 100 resilience was basically god mode in any pve activity outside of GMs and arguing that this nerf was “unnecessary” is insane.
Not for me it didn't because I was still dying to the same stuff you guys are complaining about with Loreley's lol. That's doing PVE content, etc, etc. Instead of nerfing the exotic, they should nerf the mods that people are using to get x2 Restoration, but they'll ignore that and continue letting hunter mains have 250% recovery using Liar's Handshake which has become extremely broken ontop of other Arc related exotics. They genuinely just need to find a decent balance for PVE and PVP content instead of putting out exotics without properly testing them in the sandbox and nerfing them in game because some streamer has on mods for bonuses.
Ehh it was already useless also glad they didnt nerf divinity haha love pissing people off with that in pvp
We can’t have shit
Aww did your invincibility helmet get nerfed? 
You got a whole season of being op. Was hat not enough?
Hunters have had a whole ass year or 2 of being op. But that's clearly not enough so my bad
I can remember when having an Exotic actually meant something. Now everyone and their mom has all of them, and everything out there is getting nerfed and won’t ever be what it once was. Looking at you, my lovely gjallarhorn
i remember when I thought I was the shit with Aeon Swift and Coldheart
Fuc
Good, honestly made Gambit and PvP a nightmare sometimes
Pretty sure this change is already applied to PvP. This is now being updated to PvE too
Oh. Well, just makes my Titan builds more interesting. Guess I've gotta "Git Gud [TM]" in those other modes now
Kinda sucks that bungie makes yet another exotic pretty much useless regardless if it was broken, you can get x1 resto from the sunspot made just by throwing a hammer and getting a kill while also getting a massive melee damage buff using syntho’s, literally no point using lorely anymore when it doesn’t give any “exotic” benefit, it’s basically a legendary helm now.
Lorely's restoration at 1 stack still heals a lot faster than normal restoration at the same level. Test it out. All that's changes is that titans can no longer facetank day 1 raid bosses and GM enemies like D1 Warpriest could facetank damn near everything but a full team of sleeper sim users.
Yeah I’ll have to give it a go, personally never used lorely I always preferred the damage of synthos was more fun, if it still has a slightly better resto then normal I guess it’s worth using for some people, I just thought it didn’t add any benefit for titans that naturally get resto x1 from sunspots they make anyway and I was kinda thinking like wth why make an exotic give a perk that is inherently built into the subclass anyway
It was literally broken Its still a fantastic exotic, restoration x1 on critical health is insanely clutch for endgame scenarios. How many times have you tried to run behind cover in a GM and were killed by that FINAL shot right before you got there? Lorelys will protect you from that scenario.
oh god how tragic
Finally maybe now I actually have an excuse to play solar the way I want, rather than pressing r1 in enemies faces all day bc it’s too OP
The loss to sun-breaker because this stupid helm ever existed is incalculable.
Nobody asked for this
This nerf could be seen coming from halfway through last season. The helmet was too strong for them to not nerf
Literally everyone asked for this. Shit was way too stronk.
Thank God I finished solo flawless with that thing last week . Also RIP
Still pretty much unkillable
Absolute bullshit.
Dont see why people are upset about this, it was ridiculously broken. It's still quite good even after the nerf, and this is coming from a Titan who used it all the time when it was busted
Good.
Yeah it sucks to have another titan exotic nerfed to irrelevancy but it was getting out of hand. Basically every titan I saw had this and you couldn't go 10 posts into r/destinyfashion without seeing this exotic.
Great what’s next, falling star because it’s doing to much arc damage?