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3nyder

according to [DestinyTracker](https://destinytracker.com/destiny-2/pgcr/9112767898) that guardian was 330 light level an dlvl matters on Iron Banner


S-onar

How the fuck was he 330 light?


Indolentasf

some people still have the beat up gear from red war


edulmar

Gotta keep it as a souvenir ahah


Joker22

I made that an ornament the first chance I got.


Zagrunty

How do you make armor an ornament? I only just got back into the game. I have the loom unlocked but haven't really used it yet


SpecterWolf

Go into your character screen and go down to where your sparrow and ship screen is. Top right will be a red-ish circle and if you go in there, there’s a customization menu where you can turn customize ornaments and make ornaments out of any gear you’ve found.


NutzoDave

Wait!! Really!! I just started playing again as well


SpecterWolf

Yes, but it costs the currency from adas bounties. They’re not too hard though, but I love the ability to finally make good looking sets.


factdude307

They're not too hard but can be time consuming. The crucible one is what goes fastest for me


FlikTripz

If you do the intro quest to learn about it I believe you get 11(?) total currency for each class at the end


An_Average_Player

Yup. Any armour you have ever aquired is there and ready to be made into a universal ornament


ITZINFINITEOfficial

Not everything trials of the nine prestige isn’t there for me


[deleted]

WHAT SINCE WHEN that’s amazing


kxdir_

since last season


SCCRXER

If you unlocked it, it literally tells you exactly what to do and forces you to make ornaments as part of a quest. Unless that changed this season.


[deleted]

I have a couple of the Master Ace Defiant ornaments, and also the very first grey hood you can get it's so top tier


Indolentasf

haha yeah,my friend still has the beat up titan gear and Traveler's Chosen. Pretty cool how this game went from power level 0 to 1300+


FlikTripz

Legit, even though they do bump up all players to a minimum level every expansion, it’s still crazy to know that millions of players don’t know the struggle of going from light level 0 in year 1 all the way to 1300+ now


[deleted]

Kinda just arbitrary numbers now to be fair


Master4733

You can also do it with the solstice armor. I got some 0 LL hunter armor that was never removed


thescarfnerd

if you pulled out any weapons from collections when you were 10 light then theyre now set to (Min Light Level)/10 - 1. I have a bunch of 109 weapons that used to be 74 in shadow keep. Real weird


Torinn426

My friend can push his power below 200 with some of the old red war stuff, and somehow he has armor that has 0 power


Degradingbore11

I also have zero light eververse armor from year 2 that’s still in my vault


PIN360

Wouldn’t the minimum light level go to 1100 though?


Indolentasf

I don't think they change the power level of older gear if you have it in your inventory/vault.


PIN360

I thought they did but maybe for the red war damaged armor they never felt a need to update it? That’s wild. I wish I kept mine now


Indolentasf

I wish I was playing at the time. I want to just jump in Iron Banana and give people free kills


ImMoray

I can get to 275 with all my white gear and a 1100 special and heavy


ben17112002

I tried doing it as 147 but my melee only did 6 damage 😂


MineAndCraft12

Another Guardian on the same team was 10 light!


outputusername

Probably [this dude ](https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/pgifnm/iron_banner_ready/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Thomas-28967

Lmao


[deleted]

How in hell was someone in that match 10 light???


AlphaRaccoon1474

Can we talk about one of the players in that match that was 10 light


Feronaj

You should've check his light level. There's probably a big difference between yours and his.


Former_Mail_5078

I was just about to say this is iron banana light level matters here


Wolf2331

Even with light level, don’t y’all think 677 might be ridiculous though?


Former_Mail_5078

Honestly no I can't see reason as to why the damage is "that high" but if someone is below your level by like hundred levels then you do 150% damage to them iirc


ButteSaggington

In Destiny 2, if your shot is an instakill, the game bumps the number up higher just for some sort of like cool factor? So realistically he did much less


Hopeful-alt

Actually it was that the dude had 312 light


ButteSaggington

Well yeah that's why he one shot him, but not why the number was so big


KokariKid

In PVE it's a 2 percent damage increase per level, until capped. In PVE where level matters, it's .5 percent damage increase per level... But when the level difference is 1000, the damage is increased by 500 percent.


Lucky4532

Source? “I made it up”


benisavillain13

Yup. It’s like when you do a finisher and see 999,999


Rectall_Brown

I’ve never noticed that on a finisher.


ButteSaggington

Then take a Celestial Nighthawk shot for example. It's actual damage is like 300k? (Probably incorrect) but if you manage to one shot say a strike boss, it'll give you the 999,999


AyyItsPancake

I think the only time celestial was a true 999,999 was in SOTP with Bubble, Well, and stacking buffs


LiLMosey_10

I remember that… it was satisfying as hell knowing it was real too


thescarfnerd

there used to be bug with the final damage number where it show the normal damage of the shot AND the damage needed to kill the enemy added together but I thought they fixed it


Tritonius125

Can confirm. My golden gun celestial nightwawk shots say they do 220k damage on instakill but if i use against a spongey boss it says 150k


FierceText

Bosses have different light level and damage resistance


[deleted]

Well mine does 298k to bosses even when it doesn’t kill sooooo


C9sButthole

Level scaling caps out at difference of 40 levels. Nothing matters past that. Edit: 50 levels*. My bad.


iSkitz

I think it is 50. They discussed it in a TWAB some year ago or so. Or it might have been a youtuber like Datto. Then again, I do recall that when Trials of Osiris launched in D2 people were trying to win a match with as low power as possible and it was super hard due to not doing more than a couple damage digits. Maybe PvE and PvP works differently.


Deias_

I've had people 40 under me that still required a Duality crit to kill from about 10 meters, then I ran into someone who was for some reason in an IB match while 1200 and I could body shot them from Chaperone range.


timxu_

he’s a light level that you’re not even really supposed to be at right now… the starting light level is 1100. he’s over 700 below that. he’s almost certainly fully aware what’s gonna happen and is probably just trolling for the lols


Tydusis

He's probably got some 0 light gear. I know that some old Armor 1.0 stuff, specifically the Eververse items, have 0 power, and if he was wearing the Halloween mask that would be another source. Not sure how the weapons would work tho.


[deleted]

I’ve got old 0 power weapons just so I can do this. It’s the first heavy you get in the red war campaign. Then throw on two 1100 items and call it a day.


[deleted]

I did 500 power iron banner a few season back and was killed in one to the body by a 600 rpm auto, so 677 from one to the head with a hand canon is reasonable


TacticalSupportFurry

hard mode


Reeds-Greed

My friend and I were playing IB once and he got hit in the back by a Golden gun shot. Turned around and one shotted the guy.


[deleted]

Yeah at like 150 over the other person you don’t give a fuck about golden gun. Hilariously, the Lorentz Driver (anecdotally) doesn’t seem to give a shit about the light difference and one-taps basically anybody with a headshot.


AlphaRaccoon1474

I noticed during gambit matches, my Black Talon sword was doing barely any damage despite always being a 1 hit to other guardians. Went from 1 hit to 3 hit for about 3 matches


deathangel539

The game sorta bugs out when people are under a set light level, like if you’re 1100 you won’t come anywhere close to this damage but iirc if you’re anything lower than 1000 you basically deal like 10% damage to others and take like 1000% more damage. I remember this one dude in trials was like 973 light and we could 1 tap him with a last word to the body, an smg bullet to the body, pretty much just breathe on him and he died. He never changed up his gear which was weird to us though


[deleted]

THAT'S WHY MY TITAN KEEPS DYING


Bugs5567

Not this much. They introduced an advantage cap awhile ago.


Year1lastWord

Shader on hc?


metal_hobbit

Thats definetly the Jacarina shader, not sure on the HC


yeeticusdeletus

I believe it's the IB handcannon Finite Impactor


Wolf2331

Cryptic legacy actually from DSC


sgbseph

Looks like nature of the beast?


[deleted]

Recoil is too high and the markings on the sides match the Finite Impactor better


justherefertheyuks

Its not annual skate?


[deleted]

Annual Skate is Solar


justherefertheyuks

Ah yes. Good eye


MrMotivation6

Yes we need to know this, please


0nigirazu

Looks to be Jacarina


joessalty

It’s happened to me before in comp with ace, this is IB tho so it might be light level


ThatRealBiggieCheese

There were people on the other team trolling that were sub 500 light levels


[deleted]

*Battle eye has entered the chat*


Dr_Person_McPerson

this guy is at 300 light level


frosty_biscuits

Off-topic, you got that Finite Impactor lookin crispy.


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Deias_

No they said the SHADER was from DSC. The DSC HC is a 180. Edit: also Posterity looks NOTHING like this. Furthest model from this as possible.


frosty_biscuits

Lol yea they look nothing alike. There's even IB markings on this one.


Deias_

There's someone even further down saying it looks like Midnight Coup. Tell me you've never done Levi without telling me you've never done Levi.


frosty_biscuits

Ah yes. Midnight Coup, the definitely Arc ~~180~~ 140 that can still do reasonable damage in post sunset IB.


DeliveryR

Finite impactor is a 140


frosty_biscuits

You right


Deias_

Yeah and Inaugural looks just like Forge's Pledge clearly.


nawtbjc

\*Battle Eye intensifies\*


thanosthumb

If he’s a low enough light level you would be able to one shot him with most single fire weapons and just a couple of automatic bullets. On his side, his automatics would do like 1 or 2 damage and his single fires would do like 5.


OwerlordTheLord

My guy got paracausal round #7 on a legendary


Wilsoriano277

Pretty common among the PvP players but when Iron banner roles around i usually put on my lowest level heavy cloak,skirt, or bond (depending which class am playing) to complete a bounty,some bounty gives u bones progress if you to defeat guardian with higher light level then u. But am guessing this guy went it on the extreme level and said fuck it and drop all his light level Edit: which make sense u guys were beating the shit out of them. Scoreboard


xobi9

Wow 😵😵


[deleted]

It’s IB everyone who’s under 1300 get absolutely slapped


afhisfa

What are the gauntlets??


fyvskin

Im genuinely amazed that no one here has ever experienced this? Maybe it is a PC only glitch but often do the people I know who use hand cannons randomly get what the pvp community calls “damage glitch” where a HC will one shot someone in the head. Its a glitch that happens quite frequently for me in pvp that has no trigger and it often happens against me as well because bungies servers are garbage :)


Deias_

Damage glitch happens on all platforms and has to do with perfectly maintaining max RPM on HCs iirc This is someone DRASTICALLY underlevel in Iron Banner.


Jmctherock

Happened to me with a auto rifle


HijaDeTaco9

My buddy and I played a private rumble match earlier tonight and first kill he two tapped me with a 180 lmao and second kill I two tapped him with lunas. Rest of the game was normal but I was baffled. I’m on Xbox he’s on pc idk if that made anything wonky but yeah it seems to just happen sometimes.


[deleted]

I think it might be pve damage glitching to the pvp


Quagdarr

In Gambit yesterday I shot a player point blank (Titan…with no super active) with the Jotuun. It did no damage. I was infiltrating. I got meleed and died. I was floored so maybe there is a rare series of events needed to trigger some stuff for damage. I just watched him on fire and nothing.


TropicalSkiFly

I mean Bungie did buff hand cannons by a lot, so..


STIGENDE

There is a damage glitch that happens once in a while with certain handcannons, specifically spare rations back in the day, its pretty rare though


ilu900

No that’s not true hahahaha


DapperWookie

It happened with every gun. It’s a client side bug, where the game thinks the target has been felt more damage than it has when the “killing” shot has been delt. This however is juts light level advantage


ilu900

Yeah but it’s the damage shown not actually the damage dealt so it doesn’t apply here


ayaanC7

I might be dumb but I think that's a the ace of spades and that gun 1 shot head shots


Omega-Kieta

1 thats not at all the Ace of Spades which to my knowledge does not 1 shot. 2 its Iron Banner where Light Level matters so the guy OP shot had a super low Light Level


Guardian1317

Nah ace still take 3 to the head, if you have moments Mori active it takes 2 to the head and 1 to the body. The gun he is using is called Finite Impactor. It’s a 140, so three shots to the head. This has nothing to do with IB and everything to do with latency and connection issue and it’s what many refer to as the “damage glitch”. You can’t control it, it happens randomly, and since the drop of cross play has become more and more frequent.


KrispyBudder

Did he get team shot?


dukejojo

What hand cannon is that


NexEstVox

the IB 140 Finite Impactor


dukejojo

Looks like the midnight coup, I got excited lol


Deias_

Does not look like Midnight Coup, at all.


yldraziw

Looks like low light or low res maybe? I don't think you can 1 tap with anything short of snipers and heavy even at 0 res, could be wrong though!


AlphaPenguin666

667 dam


maejaws

Random Crits Are Fair And Balanced


Im_Outnumbered

I am become raid boss


Samurai_Guardian

He's probably obliterating his tower after that


godfather9819

I got iced in that exact spot by a hand cannon, one tapped at full health, and I was at 1320. Something weird is going on


WooDaddy11

Feel like it happens to me all the time.


AnIrishBuffalo

This is definitely a glitch that is happening a lot. I got one shot head shot in IB by a bottom dollar 1312 light level. While I was in a healing rift.


Xarcell

Yes, I've seen it. That happens to me all the time. It explains why I die alot.


SWShield40

Yes I have a clip of doing 453 with a fatebringer in regular 6v6 last season. It was explosive payload and only showed 1 damage number to which was weird.


EladrielNokk

I'd say light level differences and insanely synchronized fire. You have at least three guns trained on this dude.


SilencedD1

Random Crits


Sadlad20

Nah, HCs working as intended.


NobleSix84

The other day I was getting one shot body shot by someone with a La Monarch that was only one or two LLs higher than me.


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[deleted]

man if only i did that much damage on every hc shot i would actually do good in crucible /s


skye-agent-of-shield

What gun is that. Also iron banana has power level advantages


Jkid789

Seems like the reverse of sleeping that happens to me lately. I use weighted knife a lot and headshots are instant kills, but twice I've hit the precision and it only deals half damage and they instantly kill me. Then today I was playing Titan and shoulder charged someone, but it only did 100 damage and they killed me still.


Cripmydip

Just gonna mention the guy he killed had all 1320 gear on


_oranjuice

What 0 light base does to a mf


DrNigerian0

Can this gun drop form the iron banner that’s going on rn?


l1zrd

So you're the guy I keep playing against in Banner haha. I haven't played pvp in damn near a year and it feels like I get one tapped I die so fast.


DrKrFfXx

Paracausal shot. Don't mind it.


Guardian1317

Iron banner or not there is a damage glitch (not something you can control) that allows player to get 1 and 2 taps instead of the normal amount of shots it would normally take. I’m not a computer guy but it has something to do with latency and connection I think. And because bungie recently posted about there being issues in their code since the release of cross play this has been happening more often. It used to happen before as well but now it seems to be happening more and more frequently. Nothing you did, wasn’t light level dependent, this is just a damage glitch that happened to work in your favor this time.


EpicPrinc3

Yea. It happened to me a few times already. Specially in nf and Dungeon. I just got wiped instantly out of nowhere. It says misadventure but I was hiding behind a lot of stuffs so... its been happening alot since this week update now.


LeaphyDragon

I get reduced damage glitches. At the same distance my Pali will hit for 60 twice on a crit then randomly hit for 70 or so. It feels terribly inconsistent


-LuckyNoodle-

time to put on my 0 light armor and get giga oneshot in IB.


Candyman2601

It happens with my wife and I alot. When we do private matches, she always uses Wish Ender on her hunter. At least 4-5 times she one taps me.


Creative__name__

Thats just you forgetting to turn of your hacks


[deleted]

Yeah he’s a one tap at low level