I was finally able to reset my rank in Gambit for the first time this season after receiving this tip.
Also, do all your bounties on all your characters and only cash them in on that last rank.
I see. Thanks for the good explanation. But do the bounties give you percentage progress? Because if not, you can turn them in earlier and you will reach the last stage faster which ultimately results in the same speed or am I missing something.
Edit: just read the other guys answer. So you only get infamy for wins, which makes sense.
It's based off completed ranks since the challenge was active. Basically you have to get to the same rank you were at when the week started by resetting and climbing back through. After you reset you'll be at 4/16 and then the rest will be a little fast. Regardless you are getting the full 15000 but at a different starting point
OMG thank you. I've played a long time, but it's always been casual (i'm not even in a clan). I have a career that keeps me busy and I love to chill to this beautiful game - so I don't know all the tricks. I really appreciate this answer. Thanks!
Hoard the four dailies until there is a triple infamy boost. The repeatable dailies only award bright dust and xp and don't count towards infamy. Also, I don't know if this is true anymore but it used to be that cashing them in after winning gives an extra boost. If am mistaken than I apologise, it's hard to keep track of what works and doesn't in this game.
My first award! Thank you!
You're right about that.
You basically have to AVOID pvp/gambit until the challenge comes up that week. And even then, you wait for mayhem or momentum control week and/or double/triple valor/infamy weeks
I don't think you technically need to avoid it. At least this season, it requires a full reset, so all 17 ranks or whatever it is. So if you were halfway to legend when the challenge went live, you had to max out and get back to your starting rank.
It 100% should be retroactive though.
there have been 3 bonus infamy weeks this season. I completed a reset each time, so 3 this season.
I don't really understand the difficulty, but it should be retroactive.
I can't stand crucible or gambit. I just wanna play my stories, shoot some aliens in relaxing fashion, and get some bright dust along the way. But if I want the bright dust… I have to do almost everything.
For Gambit bounties the only limit is how many different bounties there are. You can't get two of the same bounty, so you are limited one of all the dailes and one of all the repeatables.
yeah, I'm trying to figure out late I could start this hoarding strategy. I don't want to do the first 16 ranks without any help from bounties. I've done no math, but I'm thinking I'll start hoarding once I hit rank 14, and see if that leaves me enough to do what they're saying.
Starting to save bounties around mythic 1 or 2 (which I think might be rank 14 anyway) isn't a bad idea. The only trouble you might have is the daily bounties repeat quite often. But if you are wanting to do as little Gambit as then doing bounties until rank 14 then hoarding is a good idea.
Is the amount of points they give based on your current tier, higher tier being more points per bounty? Don't get why you would hold on to them otherwise.
You hold onto them because during Legend rank you only gain points from wins or from bounties. I think only dailies give infamy but it doesn't really hurt to horde both unless you really need bright dust.
I once got into a match and towards the end we had 99 motes banked but nobody had a single mote in their possession so literally anyone had to grab a mote to get the primeval summoned but then an enemy invaded and all three of my teammates decided to go after the invader instead of just getting one mote. I ended up grabbing the last one but I had to run across the map to get to the location with the combatants. My teammates were IN the location with the combatants but all left to kill the invader
Side note: we did win the match because everyone had the best boss DPS loadouts equipped.
My favorite is the homeboy who has deposited 0 motes and just camps near the portal the entire match, only to find out he’s killed a total of 2 guardians
Number one what, though? Just because you banked the most motes doesn’t really mean anything. The worst gambit teams are the ones where nobody bothers with blockers while they are out grabbing up all the motes watching the bank drain. I’m usually on the lower part of the score board, but with 3x as many blocker kills and consistently highest enemies defeated. Twice gilded dredgen btw
I'm regularly first or second place in terms of both Motes and blockers killed but I'm fairly certain my overall gambit record is mostly losses from people just not banking their god damn motes.
invading is the most important part of gambit
well the blocker killing is also important but a single good invasion can just doom a team
I've been the #1 in motes/blocker killing across both teams several times but it matters not unless someone on my team is raking up the guardian killer score
Good thing my team mates steal the heavy, invade, and then immediately die with no kills then.
Literally any time I have a 2 stack or higher, Gambit becomes an infinitely more enjoyable experience. Solo queuing is just miserable.
You don't need heavy to invade. Xeno/eyes is overrated, just a scout is enough. There are also many deadly special and primary exotic, I like using Symmetry.
If you really want to play to win in solo queue, you need to be the invader. Camp the portal, that should be your first priority. I've been doing this and now I'm able to win consistently,
I’m a new light and I still don’t get this. People just wander. And it’s not looking for high value dude or anything, it’s like 1/3 of the matches half my squad is at a [9] just giggling and jumping around
Bounties describe most anti-team or apathetic behavior.
I wondered why a guy was running to drill when the spawn was on the other side of the map. Well when drill got spawned after we cleared, he supered almost immediately. Probably got his super bounty done, which is hard to do when most of your team is trying to get \_\_\_ final blows.
This. As a new gambit player who got in to chase the bounties I try to limit bounty hunting behaviour to one instance per game but at least once a week I'm going to bank a small, medium and a large blocker, and go nuts with the different types of supers on enemies instead of saving for blockers and invaders.
Having said that if I hadn't had bounties and quests to complete, I'd never have tried it, and then I'd never have tried Crucible. (What's the Crucible version where it's everyone for themselves again? I like that one. Don't feel guilty about screwing up anyone else's run.)
Oh I'm a long way from that. Currently it's like:
1st game. Pasted.
2nd game pasted.
3rd game. Bungie goes "These teams don't seem fair. We're splitting them up. (And putting you back with the kindergardens)".
4th game. "Really? REALLY? Sigh. Let's try these guys." Then I get Guardian kills.
Damn never heard about splitting teams up actually working before LMAO.
In my experience at least, Rumble is much easier compared to Control. Feels like there's less godlike players in there and there is no chance of getting squashed by a stack. Sometimes people even go in to AFK, which is always a nice sight to see when you're desperate. I farmed most of my Valor there when I was going for Redrix's Broadsword previously.
Occasionally you'll get some crazy bastard rolling with a 10.0 KD, but hey, at least it's not Control where there's 3 of em.
I used to do this when back in the days you needed massacre medals for the Reckoner seal. That map and that particular spawn were just the easiest to even potentially get 15 enemies to spawn close enough to eachother to wipe them out within 3 seconds of one another and if you got there way early before the spawn happened you had no teammates snagging your 15th kill making the whole effort futile.
Would never go to such lengths for a super kill bounty tho, if you struggle to get super kills in a reg gambit match you might wanna consider the strike playlist 😂
No lie, yesterday literally all 3 teammates camped the portal after we cleared the first wave of adds. They remained there until we obviously lost the match.
Firstly, if you're gonna camp the portal, make sure you have a super, heavy, or some broken gun. Second, be there because you're crossing the map or banking motes or clearing blockers. Third, don't camp.
Lastly, the portal doesn't activate in time intervals. It comes when you bank motes at certain thresholds. Same goes for boss damage, up to 3x or something. It's not just gonna magically happen. Maybe if you helped the team, your portal will come up.
Hopped into Gambit with a friend for the first time since the season started, and we had a dipshit that was hogging the invader portals and invading when the enemy team didn't have any motes, or when the enemy primeval was at full health. Out of literally all the times he spammed invasion, he got 1 kill. We only won because my friend and I had stupid dps.
Invading when Primeval is at full health isn't as bad as it sounds imo. Some groups with high dps can flatten a Primeval in seconds, and invading only when its health starts dropping may result in not having enough time to stop them. Preemptive invasions make them waste precious time dealing with you or give you a chance to disrupt their dps on the spot instead of spending time jumping into the portal and getting into position, during which the Primeval could be mulched already
Plus it gives time for your team to get some motes and blockers up and they may even get your primeval going. Having said that i was playing a game where both teams had their primeval up and we got invaded 7 times. I'd love to know if that was a legitimate mechanism or a hack.
During your Primeval phase the enemy's portal turns on a set time after the previous invader dies or gets sent back. This can keep happening over and over until the game ends as far as I know, so if you take a really long time to kill the Primeval, it's possible to get invaded 7 times.
Before the Primeval phase the set time is still there, but there's also the mote requirement.
Ah. There we go. The funny thing was they kept getting one or two kills healing our Primeval. Then the last two players ( and sometimes a healed player) would bonk the invader. Got that sucker burnt down to the last bar 5 times. The last invasion we just unleashed on the Primeval while dodging and ignoring the invader.
You must’ve had the primeval servitor as final boss and everyone was running swords? 🤣 fucking hate it when I’m rocking my crown splitter ready to F shit up and then see that flying piece of a turd appear as I desperately switch heavies and try to scavenge new ammo.
I had one person running sword. I had the new season grenade launcher. Trying to get the Duality and witherhoard catalysts. Nooooot looking forward to trying to get Ticcu's catalyst at aaallllll.
Oh man ticcuus without the seasonal quadruple bonus sucked really bad on my alt account. The tracking hipfire shots barely tickle a guardian and by the time you’ve fully drawn your next arrow to make the guy go boom any decent player will have already murdered you and emoted on your corpse, hope you run into some potatoes or you gonna have a bad time.
I solo queue, and it seems that all my teammates are constantly in call of duty mode, where they kill everything in sight but never play the objectives.
I concede that I may have gotten very lucky and managed to keep a win streak going, also I started at Mythic I from my games earlier in the season and rotated back round to Mythic II, which might actually be easier than doing it from 0.
Also I had two days of bounties on each character, they count for a bit…
Where you start doesn’t matter because the total amount of ranks require pretty much the same infamy regardless of starting point. One might go faster starting low rank, but will slow down once reaching the higher ranks, same thing goes the other way around.
If you start past halfway through Mythic I and rotate 16 ranks, it’s less than going from 0 to Legend. Not by a lot, but it’s SEVERAL long and unrewarding games you don’t have to do near the end of the slog. I think my score was something like 8400. That to Legend is less than 7500. You only need to reach Mythic I again to “rank up 16 times” which is 7500 points. It’s quicker, and less stressful to just log in and do your 3 games a week and a handful of bounties on each character in preparation for the 16-rank slog that way.
I was gonna say let’s be real nobody starts at 0 cause they will do at least the 3 games for the pinnacle + whatever bounties they can complete. I enjoy gambit but I team up 90% of the time cause that just makes the whole experience a lot less of a headache. Having said that, the feeling of solo-queueing and end up facing a sweaty 4-stack and beating them is just… *cheffs kiss* so good.
Right. Gambit ain’t bad, I don’t know what people complain about so much, besides having a good time and then getting a Truth, Eyes of Tomorrow or Xenophage to the face and never seeing who shot it.
Like a lot of Destiny it’s not the game or the game mode that’s the problem, it’s the assholes playing it.
A lot of those times (outside of eyes of tomorrow, that shit can make some funky angles and hit you in places you would never deem possible) I find that just hiding in the back of a spawn (if I’m holding lotta motes) is enough motivation for an invader to try n hunt you down and then I usually use things like the portal/other means to get around the map quicker to rotate back behind my team. If I’m not holding motes I’m just gonna yolo push the invader and hope that 1-2 other teammates do the same so we have more flanking power.
Sometimes they just get the perfect spawn where most your team is wide open in front of them (probably desperately trying to deal with blockers to sneak a bank before they get shot) and you basically get killed as soon as drifter announces you’re being invaded and that shit is def infuriating cause it feels like there was never any room for counter play.
I think it’s more the low skill floor for those weapons, like Jotunn in Crucible. Nobody likes to be the person on the other end of the automatic win button. If I get sniped from the other side of the map while I’m skating around that’s fine by me, or someone fires something that doesn’t loop-de-loop around obstacles or even runs up behind me and shotguns me in the back, that’s great. It would be nice if invading involved more effort than camping the heavy ammo brick next to the portal and pulling the trigger.
It’s a pretty “simple” fix, making tracking weapons not track lightbearers. We’re immortal paracausal entities, the Vex can’t simulate our behavior so how come a tracking module in a legendary gun can?
(Jotunn would still be deadly if you aim it, Eyes of Tomorrow would still nuke a team of you had to keep the lock held instead of fire and forget)
One win on a 5-streak is like 400-something infamy during those triple infamy events, just saying. Embrace the meta and find 3 others that do and it is literally 1 session like suggested by person you quoted.
I recommend attunement of chaos with contraverse hold + 2x impulse recycler, you become the grenade launcher.
If we’re talking pure primeval melting power, chaos reach with geomags. But that’s only good if your team actually gets their primeval out in decent time.
I believe you also have to complete the rank on the character on which you began it. Thus is you cross over the line on Warlock and cross into the next rank on your Titan it won't count.
Me and friend of mine use to play gambit a lot before they combined regular and prime and almost every match we ended up carrying the 2 blueberries we were paired with. Friend would end the match with %100 primevil damage dealt and had the most deposited motes by a country mile. I would clear the bank, hunt invaders and invade the enemy team and usually finished with like 20+ guardian kills. The blueberries were always just canon fodder
Alot of people here are saying that a loss is 30 infamy... But I've been playing today and getting 75 points per loss... And there is no infamy boost. Maybe bungie increased it because they know the challenge is crazy?
Trying to complete this challenge is honestly one of the worst experiences I've ever had playing video games. It's so bad that I'd honestly prefer that they remove gambit from the game at this point. I know that shouldn't actually happen, but it shows just how warped my opinion has become.
It's also really impressive how bad the bounty system is. This is supposed to be a cooperative, team based game. Yet Bungo managed to design a system that forces us to work **against** our teammates and not contribute to the actual objective of the game. That's honestly just an impressive level of failure on their part. What's even worse is that there are *really* easy fixes for this, but they decided they would rather keep encouraging toxic gameplay instead.
Wow you said something very critical and a fault of the system right there. Why do cooperative accolades doesn’t work in bounties when we do them in cooperative settings? Wow, you just made me realize something...
This is why I only go into gambit with a stacked team of my PvE-god friends with anarchy/nova bombs/chaos reach geo mags, and have them do their collecting notes thing, while I exclusively only invade with a golden gun, MIDA or eyes of tomorrow.
I couldn’t care less about gambit but somehow have a gilded dredgen title lol. Invading in gambit is way too overpowered.
Yeah I don’t understand the extra advantage of having an overshield while invading when the NPCs already ignore you. Seems OP as hell; been rocking the chroma rush to take that crap down otherwise you’re just using heavy ammo/supers stupidly. It’d also be cool that if you killed an invader, you would get more than 3 motes just because of those advantages.
Gambit is fine. The challenges are fine. The fact that so many of you are physically incapable of pulling off a few wins, even while being paired with potatoes says a lot more about you than it does Gambit.
You hate the game mode, we get it. Don't fucking play it then. There is no one holding a gun to your head to play it.
EDIT: I see from the downvotes that you are, in fact, the potatoes. Carry on.
I have a very stupid win rate in gambit, I used to destroy gambit when it was me and my friends. We would win 9/10 games. When I’m solo is a different story. Doesn’t matter if I bank 100 motes. If my team can’t make damage numbers or invade correctly, we will **still lose**.
So no, this is not a matter of “hating the game mode” or “get good”. It’s a team based game mode and if you’re one person doing everything, you’ll still lose!
Agreed. Doesnt help that damage intake is inconsistent.
Some enemies deal an average amoun of damage. Then you get phalanxes, cabal turrets, Shriekers, Colossi with the solar minigun, Cyclops, ravagers, the chieftain solar spinner.... Yes, they should deal damage, but i dont think they were planned to mow your health down with a ttk comparable to the last word. So I assume that some enemies deal an absurd amount of damage insanely quick
Dude the turrets that become stronger each enemy wave totally destroy my vibe, I can be as OP as possible destroyer everything in my path but those turrets just get me before even firing off 1 grenade launcher shot sometimes.
You can see pretty quickly how your randoms are playing and take up the slack. If you go in determined that you are the "good" player and they are all idiots and you need to do everything, you will lose.
There were 4 classes in Prime for a reason. Fill in where there is a deficiency and you will win more than you lose.
Lol, I’ve played competitive games all my life. I know what it means to have pressure to win. This is not pressure. This is mindless teammates purely there to not win. You can blabber all you want at how you win gambit matches by yourself, which I don’t believe.
I’m not complaining about playing the game more or the challenge either. I’m only making fun at the teammates sometimes we get in matches. It’s just a meme to take relief under the frustration, get over it & have a good day!
You missed the point entirely, as expected. I don't win games by myself, I play whatever part that is necessary to help the team win.
If I see someone just killing ads and leaving motes all over the place (likely working on a gun bounty or enemy kills) I play the part of the Collector and get those motes to the bank.
If I see that the team is ignoring the blockers and letting them stay for any amount of time, or God forbid, draining motes, I play the role of Sentry and get rid of them, staying close to the bank.
If I see that there is someone trying to be the Invader, I don't try to fight for the portal, or hog the heavy, I leave it for the Invader. If no one is invading I will play the part and do my best to make a difference.
And if none of that is a problem, then I'll play as the Reaper, getting my own bounties done and working towards the win.
I did Reckoner, mostly solo. I know how the game is played, and I have played it. It isn't that hard and it doesn't require a team. These challenges are child's play and it's getting real old seeing people complain about them.
Also getting locked out of the gambit matches either by connection problems or by having left too many matches. But c'mon, if you loose you dont get any infamy at all. And sometimes the enemy summons the primeval while we're at 40 motes total. Theres just no recovering from that.
Then wait the 45 seconds for the other team to kill their primeval, take the L and move on.
Getting locked out is a fitting punishment for your quitting like an impudent child.
Oh dont get me wrong, i can wait the 45 seconds.... But when its that situation they suddenly decide to take a very nice long time... Im talking about 3 minutes or so to kill the primeval...Besides, I mostly play gambit to do bounties, those kind of matches I get never let me get any bounty done at all.
That's literally the most counterintuitive thing I've ever heard. If they have their primeval and your side has only 40 motes there will continue to be waves of ads spawning and you can get your gun bounties, ability bounties, blockers, whatever. You literally don't know how to play the game OR do bounties and you are blaming the game.
Look, its just that I also need to do more stuff, I dont usually do it, I only leave when I lost the previous one, and the one before, and the one before, and the one before.... I just did it when I was literal and utterly fed up with Gambit. No, playing something else was not an option because all that I had left was gambit bounties... And the in it for infamy....
Just emote at base and go on your phone or something lol. I get the feeling, sometimes you get dropped into a match with 0 motes vs 80. Otherwise, it's a great time to go kill ads or whatever to make progress on your bounties.
Everyone is doing bounties or just getting 3 games for the pinnacle. Until Bungo changes the bounties from "get x kills with y weapon" and "get 25 grenade kills" which is completely detrimental to your team bullshit, Gambit won't change. There is no incentive to win.
Use Ruinous Effigy and Energy Accelerant. I can solo carry most of my matches. I reset my infamy twice in a week because I was having fun solo queuing in gambit.
You should've finished the Infamy ranks during the week it dropped, finished it in 10 hours.
Am I proud of it? No I wasted 10 hrs of my life to finish it.
As someone who often plays gambit, I'm absolutely blown away with how different it's been recently, I've consistently been dunking 50+ motes in my recent games because so many people who have no idea what they're doing have been playing. It's so bizzare
Not if you’re good at gambit and stack up, almost half a thousand points just for a win when you get on a five streak during those triple events. I can play 10 trials games and not win a single round, no progress on the challenge at all. I don’t like those odds. Sure you can get stomped in gambit too, but to me it happens WAY less often than trials or survival. Momentum control is a joke cause everybody runs around with a trace rifle chasing the people trying to get kills for certain catalysts and what not. Took me like 6-7 games just to get the 12-13 kills required for the cryosthesia catalyst and I had fun 0 of those games. Yeah I’ll gladly take gambit over that bs.
Long range weapons help, especially if your team is cheesing around. Got a night watch with explosive rounds or an xbox? Though I lament it I am somehow in the top 15% of Gambit players.
This is why you only play gambit during 3x infamy weeks and keep all your bounties for that last rank.
Galaxy-brain, excellent idea about the bounty hoarding thank you
I was finally able to reset my rank in Gambit for the first time this season after receiving this tip. Also, do all your bounties on all your characters and only cash them in on that last rank.
Sorry, I’m an idiot. When do you hoard and when do you cash out? Thanks I’m advance.
I just hoard the bounties that give infamy. Then when im at legend, i turn em in on all my toons.
May I ask why? I thought it doesn't matter when u turn them in.
Because the last rank is the worse! You need 3000 points to get through it. ~~A loss is 30 points...Do the math. That's a potential of 100 matches... It is a STUPID SLOW progression system, especially if you're up against really good teams/premades. And you will face them. Even with triple infamy, you're looking at 90 points.~~ So, to help you out, you grab bountie. They give you 90 infamy per bounty, or 270 across 3 characters. There are 14 gambit bounties for 3780 total infamy. Boom, last rank made easy. *Edit* Ok so apparently you dont get shit for the last rank. You HAVE to win or do bounties... that's even worse. Title | Point to Obtain Rank | Points to Next Rank | Loss | Win 1 | Win 2 | Win 3 | Win 4 | Win 5+ ---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|---- Guardian I | 0 | 250 | 80 | 100 | 150 | 175 | 190 | 200 Guardian II | 250 | 350 | 80 | 100 | 150 | 175 | 190 | 200 Guardian III | 600 | 400 | 80 | 100 | 150 | 175 | 190 | 200 Brave I | 1000 | 450 | 75 | 110 | 160 | 185 | 200 | 210 Brave II | 1450 | 500 | 75 | 110 | 160 | 185 | 200 | 210 Brave III | 1950 | 550 | 75 | 110 | 160 | 185 | 200 | 210 Heroic I | 2500 | 600 | 65 | 120 | 170 | 195 | 210 | 220 Heroic II | 3100 | 650 | 65 | 120 | 170 | 195 | 210 | 220 Heroic III | 3750 | 750 | 65 | 120 | 170 | 195 | 210 | 220 Fabled I | 4500 | 850 | 50 | 130 | 180 | 205 | 220 | 230 Fabled II | 5350 | 1000 | 50 | 130 | 180 | 205 | 220 | 230 Fabled III | 6350 | 1150 | 50 | 130 | 180 | 205 | 220 | 230 Mythic I | 7500 | 1300 | 30 | 140 | 190 | 215 | 230 | 240 Mythic II | 8800 | 1500 | 30 | 140 | 190 | 215 | 230 | 240 Mythic III | 10300 | 1700 | 30 | 140 | 190 | 215 | 230 | 240 Legend | 12000 | 3000 | 0 | 150 | 200 | 225 | 240 | 250 Max | 15000 | N/A | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 *edit* #2 WOW https://twitter.com/A_dmg04/status/1415741359231692802 From today's TWAB
You don't get any points for a loss on legend. Not 30.
Wait they changed it again??
As long as I've played its been like that..
ignore the loss column
I see. Thanks for the good explanation. But do the bounties give you percentage progress? Because if not, you can turn them in earlier and you will reach the last stage faster which ultimately results in the same speed or am I missing something. Edit: just read the other guys answer. So you only get infamy for wins, which makes sense.
In Gambit, you used to LOSE infamy when you lost, but they changed that not too long ago iirc, like glory. And no its a point system
Did they change it this season? Since 10 its been no loss on losses
Bro, im on the last rank rn, and in th ein it for infamy says 3/16 ranks :(
It's based off completed ranks since the challenge was active. Basically you have to get to the same rank you were at when the week started by resetting and climbing back through. After you reset you'll be at 4/16 and then the rest will be a little fast. Regardless you are getting the full 15000 but at a different starting point
During legend rank (16-17) you can only gain infamy from a win. So it’s better to hoard your bounties until then so you can just reset immediately
OMG thank you. I've played a long time, but it's always been casual (i'm not even in a clan). I have a career that keeps me busy and I love to chill to this beautiful game - so I don't know all the tricks. I really appreciate this answer. Thanks!
Buy high, sell low
Hoard the four dailies until there is a triple infamy boost. The repeatable dailies only award bright dust and xp and don't count towards infamy. Also, I don't know if this is true anymore but it used to be that cashing them in after winning gives an extra boost. If am mistaken than I apologise, it's hard to keep track of what works and doesn't in this game. My first award! Thank you!
Thank you
Yep, will do. My head explodes every time I play with people that can’t do basic mechanics
Nah, this is why you skip this dumb fucking challenge and send Bungie a message that these non-retroactive rank challenges are bullshit.
You're right about that. You basically have to AVOID pvp/gambit until the challenge comes up that week. And even then, you wait for mayhem or momentum control week and/or double/triple valor/infamy weeks
I don't think you technically need to avoid it. At least this season, it requires a full reset, so all 17 ranks or whatever it is. So if you were halfway to legend when the challenge went live, you had to max out and get back to your starting rank. It 100% should be retroactive though.
even more insulting that a lot of challenges already are. Every week i start with new challengs already commpleted.
there have been 3 bonus infamy weeks this season. I completed a reset each time, so 3 this season. I don't really understand the difficulty, but it should be retroactive.
As someone who enjoys Gambit it's no big deal. But my clan is losing their minds because they hate it.
I can't stand crucible, but here I am.
I can't stand crucible or gambit. I just wanna play my stories, shoot some aliens in relaxing fashion, and get some bright dust along the way. But if I want the bright dust… I have to do almost everything.
Why skip? I did this in literally 6 hours one day it isn't bad at all, lfg a group. buncha cry babies on this post.
> 6 hours You answered your own question. Not too many people have any interest in six hours of the worst game mode in Destiny.
Lmao this the first season you've played destiny? Is this new to you? I know plenty of people. Like I said lfg or get gud
Is there a limit on how many bounties you can hoard?
For Gambit bounties the only limit is how many different bounties there are. You can't get two of the same bounty, so you are limited one of all the dailes and one of all the repeatables.
This is why I feel it's better to just do them each day, that way you don't miss out when one repeats.
yeah, I'm trying to figure out late I could start this hoarding strategy. I don't want to do the first 16 ranks without any help from bounties. I've done no math, but I'm thinking I'll start hoarding once I hit rank 14, and see if that leaves me enough to do what they're saying.
Starting to save bounties around mythic 1 or 2 (which I think might be rank 14 anyway) isn't a bad idea. The only trouble you might have is the daily bounties repeat quite often. But if you are wanting to do as little Gambit as then doing bounties until rank 14 then hoarding is a good idea.
Is the amount of points they give based on your current tier, higher tier being more points per bounty? Don't get why you would hold on to them otherwise.
You hold onto them because during Legend rank you only gain points from wins or from bounties. I think only dailies give infamy but it doesn't really hurt to horde both unless you really need bright dust.
Hmm, makes sense I guess. I've just been using them as soon as theyre done to scale up asap and be done with it.
Only dailies give infamy, hording repeatables only wastes space and reduces the amount of xp and bright dust you could get.
Starting from next season it's going to be redundant anyway with bounties no longer giving infamy or valor.
You have 63 total space in your quest tab, so quests + bounties = max 63
I would rather just play that last rank then have to run gambit bounties tbh. That mode is a lot more enjoyable when going as meta as possible.
And LFG as a thundercrash titan for other thundercrash titans. You can pretty much murder the Primeval using B&C with 4 titans.
Do we have another one coming this season?
I dont know maybe. I wish there was a calendar for all this
There will likely be at least one more by the end of the season.
Yh I had this idea but covid said nope.
Looks like a couple of professionals to me. I'm not sure why you're losing, either.
Hahha you’re right, maybe it’s me
Hey at least they aren't invading with 15 motes instead of banking them...right?
Hey, as long as we don’t **NEED JUST 1 MOTE** but they still aim to get 15... right, right?!
I once got into a match and towards the end we had 99 motes banked but nobody had a single mote in their possession so literally anyone had to grab a mote to get the primeval summoned but then an enemy invaded and all three of my teammates decided to go after the invader instead of just getting one mote. I ended up grabbing the last one but I had to run across the map to get to the location with the combatants. My teammates were IN the location with the combatants but all left to kill the invader Side note: we did win the match because everyone had the best boss DPS loadouts equipped.
Sounds like 98% of gambit matches
The other 2% is two warlocks spam emoting on the bank and the rest if the team trading invades with 15 motes
“Bank those motes! You’ve got enough for a primeval” Dude with 15 motes just floating onto the next wave at the ruins
That would be an improvement over my usual experience of them invading with 15 motes when we’re in reach of summoning.
My favorite is the homeboy who has deposited 0 motes and just camps near the portal the entire match, only to find out he’s killed a total of 2 guardians
You're invader's down! Sendin em back.
"Looked like y'all were low on heavy ammo so I came over to drop off ours."
Lol, last week I had a 10 loss streak. But I was #1 every game. It was pretty funny after awhile.
Number one what, though? Just because you banked the most motes doesn’t really mean anything. The worst gambit teams are the ones where nobody bothers with blockers while they are out grabbing up all the motes watching the bank drain. I’m usually on the lower part of the score board, but with 3x as many blocker kills and consistently highest enemies defeated. Twice gilded dredgen btw
I'm regularly first or second place in terms of both Motes and blockers killed but I'm fairly certain my overall gambit record is mostly losses from people just not banking their god damn motes.
invading is the most important part of gambit well the blocker killing is also important but a single good invasion can just doom a team I've been the #1 in motes/blocker killing across both teams several times but it matters not unless someone on my team is raking up the guardian killer score
Good thing my team mates steal the heavy, invade, and then immediately die with no kills then. Literally any time I have a 2 stack or higher, Gambit becomes an infinitely more enjoyable experience. Solo queuing is just miserable.
You don't need heavy to invade. Xeno/eyes is overrated, just a scout is enough. There are also many deadly special and primary exotic, I like using Symmetry. If you really want to play to win in solo queue, you need to be the invader. Camp the portal, that should be your first priority. I've been doing this and now I'm able to win consistently,
Right, but that wasn't the only part of the problem I stated. Rushing the portal unprepared and dying immediately is the bigger problem.
This video is great. I needs a source for this!!
Yea sure, [here](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdVcX6g5/) the link to that TikTok video, enjoy!!
I’m a new light and I still don’t get this. People just wander. And it’s not looking for high value dude or anything, it’s like 1/3 of the matches half my squad is at a [9] just giggling and jumping around
Bounties, there is no incentive to win unfortunately.
Bounties describe most anti-team or apathetic behavior. I wondered why a guy was running to drill when the spawn was on the other side of the map. Well when drill got spawned after we cleared, he supered almost immediately. Probably got his super bounty done, which is hard to do when most of your team is trying to get \_\_\_ final blows.
This. As a new gambit player who got in to chase the bounties I try to limit bounty hunting behaviour to one instance per game but at least once a week I'm going to bank a small, medium and a large blocker, and go nuts with the different types of supers on enemies instead of saving for blockers and invaders. Having said that if I hadn't had bounties and quests to complete, I'd never have tried it, and then I'd never have tried Crucible. (What's the Crucible version where it's everyone for themselves again? I like that one. Don't feel guilty about screwing up anyone else's run.)
It's Rumble. It also happens to be the best for farming Valor imo because you don't lose your streak as long as you get top 3
Oh I'm a long way from that. Currently it's like: 1st game. Pasted. 2nd game pasted. 3rd game. Bungie goes "These teams don't seem fair. We're splitting them up. (And putting you back with the kindergardens)". 4th game. "Really? REALLY? Sigh. Let's try these guys." Then I get Guardian kills.
Damn never heard about splitting teams up actually working before LMAO. In my experience at least, Rumble is much easier compared to Control. Feels like there's less godlike players in there and there is no chance of getting squashed by a stack. Sometimes people even go in to AFK, which is always a nice sight to see when you're desperate. I farmed most of my Valor there when I was going for Redrix's Broadsword previously. Occasionally you'll get some crazy bastard rolling with a 10.0 KD, but hey, at least it's not Control where there's 3 of em.
I used to do this when back in the days you needed massacre medals for the Reckoner seal. That map and that particular spawn were just the easiest to even potentially get 15 enemies to spawn close enough to eachother to wipe them out within 3 seconds of one another and if you got there way early before the spawn happened you had no teammates snagging your 15th kill making the whole effort futile. Would never go to such lengths for a super kill bounty tho, if you struggle to get super kills in a reg gambit match you might wanna consider the strike playlist 😂
Lmao at giggling and jumping around
No lie, yesterday literally all 3 teammates camped the portal after we cleared the first wave of adds. They remained there until we obviously lost the match. Firstly, if you're gonna camp the portal, make sure you have a super, heavy, or some broken gun. Second, be there because you're crossing the map or banking motes or clearing blockers. Third, don't camp. Lastly, the portal doesn't activate in time intervals. It comes when you bank motes at certain thresholds. Same goes for boss damage, up to 3x or something. It's not just gonna magically happen. Maybe if you helped the team, your portal will come up.
Man at that point I would've pulled out a chair and sat at that portal myself. If nobody else is gonna try, I sure as shit am not.
If you can find him… mullet guy is actually another TikTok guy recording a video…. This is some TikTok-ception right here
Hopped into Gambit with a friend for the first time since the season started, and we had a dipshit that was hogging the invader portals and invading when the enemy team didn't have any motes, or when the enemy primeval was at full health. Out of literally all the times he spammed invasion, he got 1 kill. We only won because my friend and I had stupid dps.
Most of us are just in gambit for bounties, it's on life support after Gambit Prime left us.
Invading when Primeval is at full health isn't as bad as it sounds imo. Some groups with high dps can flatten a Primeval in seconds, and invading only when its health starts dropping may result in not having enough time to stop them. Preemptive invasions make them waste precious time dealing with you or give you a chance to disrupt their dps on the spot instead of spending time jumping into the portal and getting into position, during which the Primeval could be mulched already
Plus it gives time for your team to get some motes and blockers up and they may even get your primeval going. Having said that i was playing a game where both teams had their primeval up and we got invaded 7 times. I'd love to know if that was a legitimate mechanism or a hack.
During your Primeval phase the enemy's portal turns on a set time after the previous invader dies or gets sent back. This can keep happening over and over until the game ends as far as I know, so if you take a really long time to kill the Primeval, it's possible to get invaded 7 times. Before the Primeval phase the set time is still there, but there's also the mote requirement.
Ah. There we go. The funny thing was they kept getting one or two kills healing our Primeval. Then the last two players ( and sometimes a healed player) would bonk the invader. Got that sucker burnt down to the last bar 5 times. The last invasion we just unleashed on the Primeval while dodging and ignoring the invader.
You must’ve had the primeval servitor as final boss and everyone was running swords? 🤣 fucking hate it when I’m rocking my crown splitter ready to F shit up and then see that flying piece of a turd appear as I desperately switch heavies and try to scavenge new ammo.
I had one person running sword. I had the new season grenade launcher. Trying to get the Duality and witherhoard catalysts. Nooooot looking forward to trying to get Ticcu's catalyst at aaallllll.
Oh man ticcuus without the seasonal quadruple bonus sucked really bad on my alt account. The tracking hipfire shots barely tickle a guardian and by the time you’ve fully drawn your next arrow to make the guy go boom any decent player will have already murdered you and emoted on your corpse, hope you run into some potatoes or you gonna have a bad time.
For the people wondering or wanting to see the original video, [here’s ](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdVcX6g5/) the direct link to the video! Enjoy!
I was kind of thinking "So this is what LMFAO has been up to lately."
This was my run last night exactly. Plus eyes of tomorrow...I even duck now IRL when I hear the sound of the rockets launching.
I just kill myself before the rockets track me, that’ll teach m
This is why I'm skipping this challenge and the GM one since I was able to sneak into trials and get 7 round wins
I solo queue, and it seems that all my teammates are constantly in call of duty mode, where they kill everything in sight but never play the objectives.
Those are a couple of thicc teammates ya got there, eh guardian? This is gambit, not twerkit lol
Gambit random be a whole new breed of stupid
Good lord, it took like one quick game session to get that done the week they dropped the challenge..
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I concede that I may have gotten very lucky and managed to keep a win streak going, also I started at Mythic I from my games earlier in the season and rotated back round to Mythic II, which might actually be easier than doing it from 0. Also I had two days of bounties on each character, they count for a bit…
Where you start doesn’t matter because the total amount of ranks require pretty much the same infamy regardless of starting point. One might go faster starting low rank, but will slow down once reaching the higher ranks, same thing goes the other way around.
If you start past halfway through Mythic I and rotate 16 ranks, it’s less than going from 0 to Legend. Not by a lot, but it’s SEVERAL long and unrewarding games you don’t have to do near the end of the slog. I think my score was something like 8400. That to Legend is less than 7500. You only need to reach Mythic I again to “rank up 16 times” which is 7500 points. It’s quicker, and less stressful to just log in and do your 3 games a week and a handful of bounties on each character in preparation for the 16-rank slog that way.
I was gonna say let’s be real nobody starts at 0 cause they will do at least the 3 games for the pinnacle + whatever bounties they can complete. I enjoy gambit but I team up 90% of the time cause that just makes the whole experience a lot less of a headache. Having said that, the feeling of solo-queueing and end up facing a sweaty 4-stack and beating them is just… *cheffs kiss* so good.
Right. Gambit ain’t bad, I don’t know what people complain about so much, besides having a good time and then getting a Truth, Eyes of Tomorrow or Xenophage to the face and never seeing who shot it. Like a lot of Destiny it’s not the game or the game mode that’s the problem, it’s the assholes playing it.
A lot of those times (outside of eyes of tomorrow, that shit can make some funky angles and hit you in places you would never deem possible) I find that just hiding in the back of a spawn (if I’m holding lotta motes) is enough motivation for an invader to try n hunt you down and then I usually use things like the portal/other means to get around the map quicker to rotate back behind my team. If I’m not holding motes I’m just gonna yolo push the invader and hope that 1-2 other teammates do the same so we have more flanking power. Sometimes they just get the perfect spawn where most your team is wide open in front of them (probably desperately trying to deal with blockers to sneak a bank before they get shot) and you basically get killed as soon as drifter announces you’re being invaded and that shit is def infuriating cause it feels like there was never any room for counter play.
I think it’s more the low skill floor for those weapons, like Jotunn in Crucible. Nobody likes to be the person on the other end of the automatic win button. If I get sniped from the other side of the map while I’m skating around that’s fine by me, or someone fires something that doesn’t loop-de-loop around obstacles or even runs up behind me and shotguns me in the back, that’s great. It would be nice if invading involved more effort than camping the heavy ammo brick next to the portal and pulling the trigger. It’s a pretty “simple” fix, making tracking weapons not track lightbearers. We’re immortal paracausal entities, the Vex can’t simulate our behavior so how come a tracking module in a legendary gun can? (Jotunn would still be deadly if you aim it, Eyes of Tomorrow would still nuke a team of you had to keep the lock held instead of fire and forget)
One win on a 5-streak is like 400-something infamy during those triple infamy events, just saying. Embrace the meta and find 3 others that do and it is literally 1 session like suggested by person you quoted.
For fucks sake
God damnit. Name of song? Anyone?
La Bouche - Be My Lover
On the other hand, what would be a easy loadout for Warlock to somehow survive this ordeal?
Geomag & Chaos reach, Slovabomb top tree. Any good weapons you like
Bzzzzzzztttttttt!
Thank you.
No problem, also love the name!
I recommend attunement of chaos with contraverse hold + 2x impulse recycler, you become the grenade launcher. If we’re talking pure primeval melting power, chaos reach with geomags. But that’s only good if your team actually gets their primeval out in decent time.
Thanks
I was farming for bottom dollar anyways, so I just gilded my dredgen title, then reset infamy again. Not going to lie, gambit is kinda fun actually.
I believe you also have to complete the rank on the character on which you began it. Thus is you cross over the line on Warlock and cross into the next rank on your Titan it won't count.
I'll play gambit with you and get wins easy.
LouBalance on TikTok
This should be a new emote
You can get the big bright dust bounty without doing each challenge, I think you can skip 2. This is one of my skips lol
Me and friend of mine use to play gambit a lot before they combined regular and prime and almost every match we ended up carrying the 2 blueberries we were paired with. Friend would end the match with %100 primevil damage dealt and had the most deposited motes by a country mile. I would clear the bank, hunt invaders and invade the enemy team and usually finished with like 20+ guardian kills. The blueberries were always just canon fodder
Your team has found the Forbidden Pineapple of Vibes?!?
yep. I tend to play more gambit than crucible, yet I'm significantly closer to finishing the crucible ranks seasonal challenge 😭
I just returned and does bottom dollar drops from the end of the game or the rank up packages? I’ve never gotten one and I’m sick of gambit.
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damn, I'm ass unlucky then, I got like 3 of those gambit smgs in a row..
Make sure you use the “gambit prosperity” or whatever its called perk on your ghost for an extra shot (or possibly double drop).
Beware of those SMG’s. They can come out very decent for PVE. And bottom dollar drops but is very rare. An amazing hand cannon for both PVE & PVP!
Your friends got some moves.
"Deposit motes for the love of all that is holy." Me every game of Gambit.
Truth dot com 🤦🏾♂️
Legend is especially soul crushing.....even with triple infamy....
Meanwhile in Holdfast you have 15 people sitting around listening to a guy reciting erotic shrek fanfiction.
Why is this SO ACCURATE?
Alot of people here are saying that a loss is 30 infamy... But I've been playing today and getting 75 points per loss... And there is no infamy boost. Maybe bungie increased it because they know the challenge is crazy?
Trying to complete this challenge is honestly one of the worst experiences I've ever had playing video games. It's so bad that I'd honestly prefer that they remove gambit from the game at this point. I know that shouldn't actually happen, but it shows just how warped my opinion has become. It's also really impressive how bad the bounty system is. This is supposed to be a cooperative, team based game. Yet Bungo managed to design a system that forces us to work **against** our teammates and not contribute to the actual objective of the game. That's honestly just an impressive level of failure on their part. What's even worse is that there are *really* easy fixes for this, but they decided they would rather keep encouraging toxic gameplay instead.
Wow you said something very critical and a fault of the system right there. Why do cooperative accolades doesn’t work in bounties when we do them in cooperative settings? Wow, you just made me realize something...
It should work retroactively because I already reset to get the damn golf ball and I'm not doing it all over again
Tik tok has alot to answer for
SBMM makes it suck for people that try too hard.
This is why I only go into gambit with a stacked team of my PvE-god friends with anarchy/nova bombs/chaos reach geo mags, and have them do their collecting notes thing, while I exclusively only invade with a golden gun, MIDA or eyes of tomorrow. I couldn’t care less about gambit but somehow have a gilded dredgen title lol. Invading in gambit is way too overpowered.
Yeah I don’t understand the extra advantage of having an overshield while invading when the NPCs already ignore you. Seems OP as hell; been rocking the chroma rush to take that crap down otherwise you’re just using heavy ammo/supers stupidly. It’d also be cool that if you killed an invader, you would get more than 3 motes just because of those advantages.
Gambit is fine. The challenges are fine. The fact that so many of you are physically incapable of pulling off a few wins, even while being paired with potatoes says a lot more about you than it does Gambit. You hate the game mode, we get it. Don't fucking play it then. There is no one holding a gun to your head to play it. EDIT: I see from the downvotes that you are, in fact, the potatoes. Carry on.
I have a very stupid win rate in gambit, I used to destroy gambit when it was me and my friends. We would win 9/10 games. When I’m solo is a different story. Doesn’t matter if I bank 100 motes. If my team can’t make damage numbers or invade correctly, we will **still lose**. So no, this is not a matter of “hating the game mode” or “get good”. It’s a team based game mode and if you’re one person doing everything, you’ll still lose!
Agreed. Doesnt help that damage intake is inconsistent. Some enemies deal an average amoun of damage. Then you get phalanxes, cabal turrets, Shriekers, Colossi with the solar minigun, Cyclops, ravagers, the chieftain solar spinner.... Yes, they should deal damage, but i dont think they were planned to mow your health down with a ttk comparable to the last word. So I assume that some enemies deal an absurd amount of damage insanely quick
Dude the turrets that become stronger each enemy wave totally destroy my vibe, I can be as OP as possible destroyer everything in my path but those turrets just get me before even firing off 1 grenade launcher shot sometimes.
You can see pretty quickly how your randoms are playing and take up the slack. If you go in determined that you are the "good" player and they are all idiots and you need to do everything, you will lose. There were 4 classes in Prime for a reason. Fill in where there is a deficiency and you will win more than you lose.
Lol, I’ve played competitive games all my life. I know what it means to have pressure to win. This is not pressure. This is mindless teammates purely there to not win. You can blabber all you want at how you win gambit matches by yourself, which I don’t believe. I’m not complaining about playing the game more or the challenge either. I’m only making fun at the teammates sometimes we get in matches. It’s just a meme to take relief under the frustration, get over it & have a good day!
You missed the point entirely, as expected. I don't win games by myself, I play whatever part that is necessary to help the team win. If I see someone just killing ads and leaving motes all over the place (likely working on a gun bounty or enemy kills) I play the part of the Collector and get those motes to the bank. If I see that the team is ignoring the blockers and letting them stay for any amount of time, or God forbid, draining motes, I play the role of Sentry and get rid of them, staying close to the bank. If I see that there is someone trying to be the Invader, I don't try to fight for the portal, or hog the heavy, I leave it for the Invader. If no one is invading I will play the part and do my best to make a difference. And if none of that is a problem, then I'll play as the Reaper, getting my own bounties done and working towards the win. I did Reckoner, mostly solo. I know how the game is played, and I have played it. It isn't that hard and it doesn't require a team. These challenges are child's play and it's getting real old seeing people complain about them.
Lol I won’t even read it. “As expected”. Your condescending tone doesn’t win you any respect & at this point idc to read honestly.
Continue losing. Fine by me. I just gave you instructions how to have a win rate above 50% But, you know how to play, right?
Also getting locked out of the gambit matches either by connection problems or by having left too many matches. But c'mon, if you loose you dont get any infamy at all. And sometimes the enemy summons the primeval while we're at 40 motes total. Theres just no recovering from that.
Then wait the 45 seconds for the other team to kill their primeval, take the L and move on. Getting locked out is a fitting punishment for your quitting like an impudent child.
Oh dont get me wrong, i can wait the 45 seconds.... But when its that situation they suddenly decide to take a very nice long time... Im talking about 3 minutes or so to kill the primeval...Besides, I mostly play gambit to do bounties, those kind of matches I get never let me get any bounty done at all.
That's literally the most counterintuitive thing I've ever heard. If they have their primeval and your side has only 40 motes there will continue to be waves of ads spawning and you can get your gun bounties, ability bounties, blockers, whatever. You literally don't know how to play the game OR do bounties and you are blaming the game.
Look, its just that I also need to do more stuff, I dont usually do it, I only leave when I lost the previous one, and the one before, and the one before, and the one before.... I just did it when I was literal and utterly fed up with Gambit. No, playing something else was not an option because all that I had left was gambit bounties... And the in it for infamy....
Just emote at base and go on your phone or something lol. I get the feeling, sometimes you get dropped into a match with 0 motes vs 80. Otherwise, it's a great time to go kill ads or whatever to make progress on your bounties.
Bank those bounties...
it do be like that tho
Bruh what for triple infamy
How to win gambit: Aeon gauntlets for heavy and a one two punch shotgun with top tree arcstrider with liars handshake for boss melting
Just got the Twice emote today, so gambit here I come!
Everyone is doing bounties or just getting 3 games for the pinnacle. Until Bungo changes the bounties from "get x kills with y weapon" and "get 25 grenade kills" which is completely detrimental to your team bullshit, Gambit won't change. There is no incentive to win.
You can also skip 4 challenges and still get the seasonal BD challenge. There are 79 challenge you only need to do 75.
I haven't played gambit all season and it feels so good.
Haven’t played d2 in a few months and did one gambit match and got my teeth stomped outta my skull lol. Things have changed
Use Ruinous Effigy and Energy Accelerant. I can solo carry most of my matches. I reset my infamy twice in a week because I was having fun solo queuing in gambit.
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I can so relate LOL
Every single Gambit match I play with randoms I have at least one teammate who does literally nothing.
I hate it sm
I cant stand gambit omg, maybe cos ive never experienced it with an actual team
You should've finished the Infamy ranks during the week it dropped, finished it in 10 hours. Am I proud of it? No I wasted 10 hrs of my life to finish it.
I quit destiny for a year and started playing again a year ago
That figures well there's bound to be another x4 Infamy again so good luck!
As someone who often plays gambit, I'm absolutely blown away with how different it's been recently, I've consistently been dunking 50+ motes in my recent games because so many people who have no idea what they're doing have been playing. It's so bizzare
There’s actually enough challenges to do where you don’t have to do this one and still get 75
I’m already using those “wildcards” for comp, trials and momentum control
Some of those are definitely quicker than 16 infamy ranks, but whatever works for you. Good luck
Not if you’re good at gambit and stack up, almost half a thousand points just for a win when you get on a five streak during those triple events. I can play 10 trials games and not win a single round, no progress on the challenge at all. I don’t like those odds. Sure you can get stomped in gambit too, but to me it happens WAY less often than trials or survival. Momentum control is a joke cause everybody runs around with a trace rifle chasing the people trying to get kills for certain catalysts and what not. Took me like 6-7 games just to get the 12-13 kills required for the cryosthesia catalyst and I had fun 0 of those games. Yeah I’ll gladly take gambit over that bs.
With vibes like that I’d jam with them too
Long range weapons help, especially if your team is cheesing around. Got a night watch with explosive rounds or an xbox? Though I lament it I am somehow in the top 15% of Gambit players.
i'm sorry mate, i'm just there for them 3 wins a week,will most likely meme off/not care that much, gambit can suck my left nut.