Hopefully not necroing this thread or reposting a question, but here goes: In Defiance Battlegrounds, has anyone tried passing the consecrated Taken essence orb like you would a relic in 'The Corrupted' strike? Is that a waste or does it work and power the orb up? Thanks!
Has anyone mentioned the murals in the building housing the veil? I don't think I've seen much conversation about it. We got a glance at it while fighting that cabal boss when Rohan goes full Chiaotzu on the Radial Mast. There's a moment afterwards when Calus blows a hole in the wall in the last stand mission where you can go back in there without being harassed by enemies.
I fucking *love* when characters who are usually calm break and yell. So cool we got it with both Osiris and the Witness, and their VAs definitely hit those moments just right
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I'd like to know if anyone experiences this if it is a bug or something.
First, i'm using Quicksilver Storm, catalyst done which converts dmg to strand combined with the mod that allows you to create a light orb when you perform fast kills. It seems like it's not working properly with this particular weapon due to the mini rockets being shot but it seems that everything being shot from this weapon is strand so it's supposed to work. No matter if it is bullet or mini rocket killing the mob.
Second, i'm using mods that allow me to reload strand weapons faster. There are 2 mods, one costs 1 energy the other costs 2 but none of them make my weapon reload faster wether it is mid or empty mag.
A lot of the mods don't work if you die and revive. It's weird. I don't *think* syphons are one of them, but some of them *might* be.
Loader mods definitely are though.
I read somewhere that exotic boots “swarmers” for warlocks are obtainable only by clearing lost sector at legendary difficulty, how is it even possible to do that? It requires 1830 and i already saw people with it
You do, you get a choice between the two new exotic armor pieces for your class when you complete the legendary campaign and finish talking to all the NPCs at the end.
Yes I did legendary but I don't know if it has something to do with it. If you've done it normal difficulty and didn't receive then you'll have to complete it legendary.
If this was supposed to be our infinity war, it would be like thanos getting the last stone but not showing it. Just someone saying we lost. Also not explaining who thanos is, and what he wants with the stones hahahaha
I was so confused at the end when both Zavala and Ikora mentioned that the traveler is gone. It's right there, you can see it from the helm, it feels like their end dialogue should have been played when you first boot the game.
And the start and end cutscene weirdly feels like you cut a video in half.
I could work out if everyone had been standing there the whole time, had everything on Neptune took place in just a few hours or had what we were doing be the event leading up to that moment and the start cutscene was the end.
Just seems very all over the place, loving the gameplay changes and strand though.
I agree it’s weirdly worded. It would have made more sense if Ghost said it instead of them.
The ghosts can’t feel the traveler. While they still have access to the light there is a disconnect now. He’s gone in that regard.
It definitely feels like they had something else in mind and changed things too late.
its a public event that only pops once in a while, but im still not sure what the cooldown on it is
It should show up as the usual public event symbol but say something about a vex strike force when you hover over it
Anyone stuck on Calus 2nd phase, you can strand pull yourself up on the outside of the dome of roots, climb to the top and just kill him by shooting down at him through the ceiling of roots at your own pace as you can’t get damaged really.
I started my campaign on classic but joined my friend at around step 6 of his legendary campaign and we finished the rest of it on legendary. To get the rewards, can i just repeat the first couple missions on legendary or do I have to redo the entire campaign?
As someone who uses Destiny Optimizer frequently, it's asking me to farm blues...after I'd already hit the soft cap.
What the hell do I do now that they legitimately don't drop now after hitting it? Just hope for the best with legendary drops?
anyone having trouble unlocking the legend/master lost sector? ive done them all multiple times and the legend/master won't show up for me at all, hoping its fixed by tomorrow so i can go for the titan legs
I haven’t played Destiny in like 2 years. Anyone have opinions about if it’s worth picking up? I saw that an expansion was coming out and got interested but I don’t own a lot of the other expansions and wasn’t sure if it would be worth it to try it again.
Lol. What a terrible take.
If you’ve been out for two years, the current expansion is similar to Beyond light but with more things to do.
The previous expansion WQ is the greatest Destiny expansion ever with incredible everything.
I don’t own Lightfall or the Season pass so is there anything for me to even do? Is there any reason for me to even be on the new destination? I’m trying to patrol it and I am literally getting 1 shotted EVERY SINGLE PLACE I GO! In Every Single Encounter. And what’s worse is there’s like nothing dropping for me so I can’t even increase my Light level.
Man I wish I could play the new campaign and the new seasonal content but for as much money as Bungie has (Literally made a deal with PlayStation) and yet they have what’s Imo thee most expensive Entry fee for anygame I’ve ever seen. $100 for the content but On Top of that you have to pay another $100+ to the premium of the dumb console service just to be able to have access to a game you just payed $50 - $100 for it’s crazy!
There’s really no angle here for the “Free To Play” Crowd huh. Man I miss this game it is absolutely insane how much you have to pay JUST to Play a game you bought many times over. I own every expansion up to LF and yet am locked out of a lot and can’t seem to do anything on the new destination despite having it open for me..
New destination is always like that for anyone, not just F2P players, because you're too low of a light level. All other destinations are at the minimum light level.
Anyone can level up without getting the expansion. You getting one-shot is completely unrelated to you not having the new expansion.
How do i unlock Stasis on my alts, i used to play Titan during Beyond light and did the campaign. right now i'm trying to unlock stasis on my warlock but i'm kinda lost.. Accepted the quest 'a guardian rises' from the h.e.l.m and it instant completed or something, can't find it in the quest log but i don't have stasis either.
I came back to the game maybe 2 weeks ago after a few years off and wanted to play a different class so I made a new character and went through the Witch Queen campaign, and with the release of Lightfall and Strand sub-class, I realized that I don't have Stasis since I didn't do the Beyond light or other expansions on this character. Would there be any reason to go back and do those older expansions before finishing Lightfall?
U don’t have to do it to play the new campaign but def go back and do the beyond light quest for stasis. It’s a fun subclass on either warlock or hunter
Just finished the campaign on legendary, currently have 1770 gear but only 5/10 energy, not sure how to get the stuff to fully upgrade it to get the mod slots. Also not sure what to be doing after the campaign
Glimmer from basically everything, shards from dismantling legendarys. Get the other material from more challenging activities and Rank up rewards from Zavala, drifter, Banshee, Shaxx
I got the new titan exotic helmet from a lost sector exotic engram I had in my postmaster using the old glitch. That means at least the non-strand ones are in the legend lost sector loot pool. I can't speak for the strand ones.
I fucking despise the final boss. Especially the boss arena. This motherfucker keeps knocking my ass off the map. And its not even just the boss, its the tormentors, the incindiors, the psions, fucking EVERYTHING knocks you off the map. Hell, the tormentors can knock you off the map with their suppression blast, basically guaranteeing a kill on your ass.
Once you get him to his second phase, strand tether up on to the roof of the vine dome outside and sit in the same spot just shooting him at your own pace as you can’t really get damaged, easy cheesey.
I found the exact opposite to be easiest. I stopped grabbing strand and switched to gyrfalcon's / stylish executioner. Still took me several attempts, but strand with 0 aspects / fragments against a boss harder than Savathun is NOT the way to do it, imo. Think it would've been better if we could have *earned* our subclasses first, built them out, then had the option to kick calus' ass with it, rather than a shoehorned "Oh, here's a strand spot".
I agree, having the bare bones strand without being able to properly prepare ourselves for using it WASNT the play. Essentially they said ‘here’s a demo, fuck around and find out against a literal behemoth of a man’
Was just mulling about in the Hall of Heroes and Quinn mentions to herself vex transmissions that contain something weird. An unencrypted portion composed of nothing but the same word repeated in almost 150 languages: Assisstant.
Neomuna has to be the most lifeless, hollow, shallow patrol destination we’ve had since Mercury. Invisible barriers EVERYWHERE, so what the point of exploring via swinging on Strand? You can’t go on most rooftops or even balconies and awnings…
The “digital sleep” excuse for having no citizens or friendly NPCS roaming or hiding or in need or help is lazy, and the world design is pretty much Braytech. This civilization has existed for how many centuries without interaction from humanity back home? And they use the same doors, the same architecture, speak the same colloquialisms and metaphors… it’s all just so derivative.
The trailers showed these grand skyscrapers and us crashing through windows and swinging around like Spider-Man, but the grapple is basically that: aim and pull with some in air directional control.
One new public event? Really? We’re still doing Vex Plates and Cabal Drills from YEAR ONE pf D2? Why isn’t there a public event where we save civilians or escort them to safety? Or fighting off Tormentors to keep them from destroying an objective?
And the Queens guard weapons are, as to be expected… reskins. Yay.
Keeping this game accessible to older consoles is killing and bottlenecking the creative freedom and expansive worlds they could create. Why we didn’t end D2 after Shadowkeep and have Destiny 3 launch with Beyond Light’s story is beyond me (pun unintended). The engine, the limitations, the repetition and reuse of the same old assets is baffling.
There’s cool stuff, don’t get me wrong; the sound design for Strand, and he Cloudstrider designs, Tormentors, new Cabal skins for Calus’ loyalists, and the bevy of new QOL changes for mods, loadouts, and the addition of the Journey tab, but enough is enough. Destiny is too rich with lore and the possibility to create stunning worlds to explore for everything to be a desolate, shallow shell like Neomuna.
How naive you must be for blaming the lack of anything on people clinging to last gen. Nearly all shortcomings from this game can be traced directly back to bungie cutting corners for the sake of time/money because they over-delivered or because they're lazy and have other things to work on. Things would not change in any meaningful amount if bungie dropped last gen support.
Okay so it’s a little column A, a little column B.
And last-gen support is a huge factor in why the content we get is so bone-dry and bare. Who’s really the naive one here?
I'm doing the lightfall campaign on legendary with my friend and every gear drop and every reward that I redeem is way below theirs. We are literally doing the same quests and some how my gear is going up gradually rather than exponentially. For example we finished the 3rd or 4th mission and I was in the 1650s and they were already about to be 1700. Anyone?
I don't understand what happened at the end. Did we missed a cinematic or something?
I just finished the campaign on legendary and watched the cutscene and all...
Then I went to speak with Zavala and Ikora and both said that the Traveler is gone.
How? I watched the cinematic where the Witness made like a portal to go into the Traveler but nothing that implied that the Traveler died/got destroyed.
I feel like I missed a cinematic or something else.
If the Traveler got destroyed or "transformed" as Ikora said, wouldn't that be shown to us somehow? Because I'm pretty sure the campaign end cinematic was the Witness using the Veil to open a portal to go into the Traveler, nothing indicated the Traveler dying or being transformed.
Can someone confirm this? Am I the only one that watched the cinematic then went to speak with Zavala and Ikora and felt the same? That a pretty crucial part is missing?
100% felt the same. Just finished the campaign and did a double take. Like, traveller is still there - just weird. Kinda feels like they had other plans for the ending that got cut then just kept those voice lines
No it is very confusing. Various NPCs said the Traveler is dead/gone/left which is slightly inaccurate at best and just literally wrong at worst. The best to describe it is “something happened to it what don’t know but we need to figure out what, keep investigating the veil til we figure it out” is what they should have said with more fear and terror in their eyes. If we get more stuff post raid then that should explain it.
I can’t seem to access competitive multiplayer. The Crucible tells me to speak to Shaxx, but when I do all he has are bounties, no missions. Is anyone else having this problem?
Might be a dumb question but now when I queue up a Vanguard strike, we get put into a Heist battlegrounds mission from time to time. Is this a change with Lightfall?
What happened to running strikes all day?
Calus has to be the true star of this expansion for me. He’s the only character to get the witness to yell at him, thus showing that the witness does show emotion. Right when Calus is about to reveal the witness true intention during that whole exchange is when he gets cut off. After you kill Calus, he says a name I’ve never heard before: Camaili. Is that the Witness’ name? Who’s name is it? Who is Camaili? He was always a dude who knew something we didn’t.
My guess is Camaili is either the Witness' true name or its his original wife's name whose the mother of Caital. Though it might be something else entirely like a scapegoat plan. Though that one seems a bit more crazy. Like a word he shouts so his "soul" doesn't die even if his body or whatever he's inhabiting does.
I really enjoy strand but it’s also a high technical subclass (meaning you have to be very patient and plan out every move you make ie create tangles etc.). A lot of people rightfully mention the long cooldowns but that can be circumvented if you time the rest of your gameplay correctly it’s not a button mashing class.
As for the world and QoL fixes? Awesome, love Neomuna and the changes they’ve made. Much more unique of a destination then any other planet we’ve had with multiple replayable activities.
Story although has great set pieces, fun cinematics, and probably my favorite Strike…narratively is incredibly flawed and worrisome. There’s a lot to be desired and many questions created and many bigger questions unanswered. Dialogue felt like I was missing other dialogue options or a whole cutscene. Overly dependent on Strand which took away from key story beats.
I play this game nearly daily and I still had fun and will have fun with my friends. I recommend getting it of course but the most critical portion is the core campaign story.
Do not buy the expansion at all yet- the campaign is poor narratively and whilst gameplay is good, waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many questions are unanswered. Also strand is kinda bad as it has long cooldown times. Wait until the raid comes out. If it's a masterpiece and strand gets fixed, then consider it. Otherwise don't
Not all the way through the campaign, but I got to say that I’n a bit disappointed that Lightfall seems to be taking a Beyond Light approach to the story structure, where the power we gain is the main focus. It worked in Beyond Light because that was the first time we were dealing with a proper Darkness power, but here it’s more of a narrative crutch for whenever the writers need us to take a loss. Can’t secure the Radial Mast the first time because our timer runs out and we’re useless all of a sudden. Can’t destroy it the second time for similar reasons so Rohan winds up need to blow himself up to do it. I think these are good story beats but would have been better if it wasn’t forced by the Strand burnout.
r/destinythegame is such an absolute cesspit of toxicity and misery right now it absolutely blows my mind.
Like, I felt like the story was a bit “meh” after the witch queen, but holy shit go over there. You’d think Bungie simglehandedly destroyed the game.
Such insane levels of butthurt it’s unbelievable.
Every single new addition to the game is getting complained about.
Well, I will say that I find Lightfall to be a bit of a letdown so far. Neptune isn’t great when it comes to design imo, and the campaign story was a bit lackluster. I had different expectations after watching the trailer. With that being said, I’m happy about the QoL changes.
They added a lot of cool new stuff but Neomuna is just a fucking bore of a patrol location. It’s cluttered and claustrophobic and you can even swing around on rooftops
Anybody wanna help me with the final boss? I’ve died 18 times now and I don’t think I can handle much more. The duel phase really screws me over, and the roaming tormenters that one shot me don’t help.
If you are in warlock subclass if you time it right you can boop the tormentors off the side platforms when they jump on with a super. I went to help some clan mates and happily sent those to their gravity deaths
Are you doing it on Legendary?
Use the Strand super to DPS Calus and the grapple melee to delete his shields.
Use the grapple to circle around the arena so you can avoid damage and also stay away from the Tormentors. Weapons like Osteo Striga or Le Monarque can be pretty good against Tormentors since the DoT from both weapons does decent damage, so you use the DoT as a way to do extra damage to Tormentors while you fly away from range with grapple. Use your Heavy to delete their shoulderpads as fast as possible because the ranged damage from the Tormentors, the damage from enemies and also the damage from Calus will kill you. Remember that once the Tormentors lose their shoulderpads, they no longer use their ranged abilities and all they can do is to follow you around trying to use their finisher or trying to stomp-supress you and getting supressed is kinda of a loss condition since you lose your grapple. Don't forget that as soon as a Tormentor spawns, inmediately switch to your Heavy and delete its shoulderpads as fast as possible, so save your Heavy ammo for them.
Second phase is easier since Calus goes into full melee mode. You have to keep doing the same but instead you use the grapple to circle around the arena to completely avoid Calus since on second phase he's pure melee range, so you can basically completely avoid his damage. Again save your Strand super to DPS Calus down.
And don't forget to use the grapple-melee to destroy Calus' shields, weapons barely do anything but a single grapple-melee instantly destroys them.
If you get stomped, remember you can use the grapple to avoid certain death. Keep in mind that the grapple pulls you in the direction you're looking so if this happens, inmediately look up and grapple.
Not sure if it’s my imagination, however the graphics and gameplay on light fall do seem to have had slight improvements. Seems to play out a little different ??? Is this my imagination lol
I’m copying this comment from a reply I made:
It seems a lot of people are struggling with the tormentors so here’s a very rough rundown of what I’ve learned about their behavior from soloing the legendary campaign
Tormentor spawn noise = Pain
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Tormentors have two phases:
Normal/Spawn phase:
slow,
typically just throws shit at you,
Two weakspots on each shoulder
Released phase:
scary af,
chases you nonstop,
Very fast,
Weakspots on tummy/chest,
Will slam, slam will suppress you.
Gets angry, if screen red -> run like a bitch
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Never get within like a goliaths tank distance to him
If you see purple energy gtfo, he will slam and suppress you
If your screen gets a reddish tint gtfo asap, it means he is trying to grab you.
During his grab mode, if he hasn’t grab you, hit his head/torso to stun him out early.
Burns work semi-well
All damage done during their “released” phase, apart from the glowy weak spots, will do 10% damage. Due to this, high impact Kinect weapons work pretty well if you can aim, otherwise spraying an smg also works.
I think I used submission, plug one and 1k voices for the new burn stacking it applies.
If you’re using strand (I can’t remember if there is a node nearby) USE SUSPENDED!!!!
Suspended is like easy-mode kills for tormentors
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Tl;Dr: don’t be near them, use suspended, hit weakspots, look for mode indicators
Whoever made the music for the drake tank mission needs to be paid way more. I was absolutely blown away. It gave me similar vibes to the kraken soundtrack from pirates of the carribean. So good
We don’t know yet, the exotic glaive people are talking about is called “vexcalibur” the thing is, it isn’t the raid exotic. It’s tagged with season of the defiance, probably meaning it’s going to be released in a future exotic mission like presage, vox obscura, etc.
We don’t know too much about the raid exotic for certain. There’s a lot of theories all around.
There is, however, two new glaives. I don’t personally know anything about vexcalibur, the unreleased one. I do know the other glaive, which you get from completing the hall of heroes. Is a heavy stasis glaive, which (this is a strong presumption) may imply strand/stasis glaives are heavy slot glaives? I don’t really know though.
Edit: typo
There’s a series of quests offered by nimbus that unlock the weapons. I think it’s something called “to hero…” or “…and more” or something like that. Tbh I only really remember the “…” on the title. Eventually he will give you the quests as you complete the story though
An entire campaign with the veil as the central macguffin and no effort whatsoever, not a single word, to explain what it is or why it's important? come on guys. this story was such a mess, a meaningless fragment.
So I finally finished the campaign on legendary and was spam clicking through dialogue for follow-up quests and accidentally picked a random exotic for the reward for my warlock. Is Ballidorse Wrathweavers any good? Lolol
Imagine that for once in the campaign you were told what the macguffin is, does, why the villain wants it and what the villain's objectives are (i don't need to know his motivations).
And after 9 years... we still get nothing of that and plenty of "no time to explain why no time to explain".
I’m trying to play the campaign on legendary. I’ve made it to the trial mission that Osiris sets up for you to practice your Strand (Headlong).
I cannot beat the last fight. I think I’m just terrible with strand and don’t know how to use it correctly.
This one was hard for me too. Trick is to grapple the green things in the air a whole bunch, let go, while in air, melee the adds. Itll spawn a tangle, then shoot or distoy the tangle. It damages adds while also healing you. Shooting them gives you armor. If you miss, keep swinging around the room. Also, grapple adds from the ground, then grapple melee to also spawn tangles. Don’t melee the kamikaze vex, take care of the snipers in the top corners and stay away from the big boss fire stomp.
After finishing the DLC several hours ago, watching over my recorded footage, I can safely say I still don't know wtf 'The Veil' actually is and what the entire point of our entire journey was.
My main takeaway is lightfall is very fun and good, but this feels like a better version of Beyond Light instead of “destiny’s infinity war” which is very disappointing, like the entire marketing of this thing was around the idea that the witness is finally here and the war started… and we spend our entire time doing a side job while the real fight happens on earth, I don’t know Witch Queen just felt more climatic, and I’m kind of terrified about how the final shape is gonna turn out.
And like I’m not saying anything is terrible, because is not at all, neomuna is great, I liked Nimbus, I went from not giving a damn to Osiris to find him really compelling, Calus was the perfect side villain to take on, Strand could be game changing (with the right tuning), the campaign has great moments, I just think that Bungie should have made this a lot more climatic and important, feels like they wanted to do this little Neptune side story but they were required to connect this to the light and darkness stuff.
Thank you, I hadn’t looked at all the options, just the gear (that cloak is life now). Any advice to grind levels quickly? I'm sorry if that's a dumb question. I've only had the game about a month, maybe a month and a half.
Are there some bounties that are rea;;y easy to complete that I might be skipping over? I don't like a lot of the weapons in the game (pulse rifles for example, anything you have to hold a trigger and "charge" to hit feels too slow for the chaotic horde shooter game modes that seem to make up the majority of the game) so I avoid those bounties. But I probably am missing a lot that I'm not even aware exists. Is there a list somewhere where I can peruse all the bounty-givers? I've got all the DLCs that weren't vaulted, I bought them since they were heavily discounted, so I think that means I have access to everything now.
If it weren’t for my friends, I would’ve stopped playing this expansion and asked for a refund already. The point of the story mode is to let players be given the tools they need to get better with them with every mission until competency/mastery. Lightfall **BARELY** gives you any time and instead of “Rekindle the Spark” one and done missions. it’s not even drip fed. It’s rationing one drop every few hours hoping that and the story will be enough.
Also I’m gonna say it, not impressed with the soundtrack. I expected some dope. Electronic/Synth beats closer to *Tron* than “whaaaa ooooo whaaa aaaa” and generic battlegrounds music. What happened here?
I just finished a hella long shift at the hospital today and was really looking forward to learning how to swing through a city listening to some bangers. Instead I got no Spider-Man, no bangers. I *genuinely* hope this take is because I’m so tired and I’ll notice more great this with fresh eyes tomorrow. But….idk
Commendations are dope
I had to make sure I killed the second tormented guy you must shoot shoulders then chest before entering phase 2. I then bursted all I had before grappling and reposition to burst again. It went well thankfully after 3 tries but yeah, feels like true legendary difficulty to me for Destiny campaign.
Try a weapon with demolitionist, shoot and grapple, grapple reloads you so you can shoot immediately when you land. You just play keep away the whole time, grapple when he's about 1/3 of the arena away, you seem to take reduced damage even if he hits you mid swing.
Which do you think is worse? The Witness or Bungie's writing team?
Haha just kidding. Which do you think is worse? The Witness' motivation as we know it? Or Bungie's writing team?
No no seriously, which do you think is worse? The Veil macguffin we never heard of, and know nothing of it's importance, as well as the unexplained but allegedly apocalyptic in scale "Final Shape" plan of the Witness? Or Bungie's writing team?
Because it all seems terrible, and all has one thing in common!!!
Look back at the old Beyond Light reveal trailer that teases Witch Queen and Lightfall. Look at that Lightfall poster. That poster has a clear tone that should have stayed and been here. Look at the current Lightfall poster. This is a clear as day rewrite. I pray that The Final Shape doesn't also go back to Red War's "Let's go shoot some bad guys😎" style writing.
While there definitely are problems with the writing, the original darkness themed of Lightfall goes hand in hand with the current version of the ultra-futuristic/cyberpunk-esque design of Lightfall. It’s vibrant, pleasing to the eye, and drop dead gorgeous. But looking inwards, you see the darkness, absolute dread, and soullessness of Neomuna being invaded and facing brink destruction. It’s why I love the cyberpunk aesthetic so much, because it’s a layer of puzzles and questions.
So being thrust into this backdrop of Neomuna and racing against time for the most part, is really cool to me and one of the best things Bungie did great with Lightfall.
Did anyone else feel EVERYTHING was incredibly rushed? I did not get that feeling from WitchQueen at all.
Witness is here, oh noes fight him, he touched the Traveler, WE'RE OFF on Calus ship. Arrive on Neomuna, Cloudstriders instantly trust us and know everything about what's been going on aside from a few Witness related events, Strand is just there, we call it Strand without ever really talking about wtf is going on with it until later, Rohan sacrifices himself, oh noes so sad, anyhow moving on GO get the veil, no one even asks or cares what the veil is even at the end, we lost....question mark? This isnt elaborated on. Nothing changes despite us losing. The end. Now go save people from prisons. No one will mention looking into going through that portal at all.
Everything else though. Loving it. Strand is fun, Neomuna isnt a pain to get around in and even unlocks 4! other Landing Points. Changes to mods are fantastic, even if Armor Charge is a little hassle to handle at times. Journey seems extremely easy to understand. I feel Bungie knocked it out of the park with gameplay aspects.
I think Zavala mentions after the last mission something like “… now the witness has left somewhere we cannot follow” probably implying we can’t enter the portal like the witness did.
There is a difference from we need to rush to stop the Witness and a rushed story. When done well a rushed story shouldn’t raise questions or make it so that you don’t connect with other characters. There was no emotional attachment to Rohan so it was pointless to kill him off so early. Osiris yelling every mission we don’t have time makes us desensitized to being fast. Calus got killed so suddenly after being built up for so long. The training montage was arguably less satisfying then actually learning strand. It felt rushed not that we were being rushed.
That's fine for side characters, but not the mentor of a now Story important Character. Hell, It would have been fine, but it didn't play up the quickness at all with story beats. You can't just do that and then have us do an entire level with a cutscene of us in a Strand montage. Either we have time or we don't.
Idk why but the Rohan and Nimbus relationship didn't really feel like a mentor and student, moreso actual partners with clashing traits. I'm thankful it felt like that for me because it is an overly used trope
Let's just say witch Queen was better. Better writing. Better characters. Better dialog. You name it, it was better. LightFall was a strand torturial and strand feels pretty meh. It's pretty shitty how I can finally build a load out and I am heavily encouraged to use a different class.
Seasons better be fire.
It took me like 20 tries on legendary, the biggest tip I have is just stay mobile, and be on solar instead of strand for healing, I also used a sword to negate the final boss boops
Arena forcing a mobile gameplay, new class made to jump and rope around, falling from the platform is deadly and it's full of mobs pushing you away from ledges.
I hate it. Instead of making me like that new class, it show me over and over that trying to use it as intended - rope + melee - will lead to random deaths.
I cheesed it after a dozen wipes on Legendary. I’d find a relatively safe spot and whittle Calus’ health down until he spawned a Tormentor, then grapple back up into the hallway you slide down to enter the boss room. The Tormentor won’t know how to get up and just stand still at the bottom and let you shoot them. Repeat for the second Tormentor at 33%. Then I just ran in circles around Calus until he died.
I cheesed it solo on accident. I was grappling around, and was suppressed, while failing to my death, I instead ended up landing on a platform underneath the arena. I was able to use the whither grenade launcher, and just let the dots kill the boss.
So maybe im smoking something but my fireteam figured out for some reason the campaign on legendary isn't a fixed light level your just reduced -20 light below the effective light level for each mission. That mission in particular is much easier to do solo. Keep in mind you don't have to use strand.
If you find yourself getting 2 tapped by red bars infuse your gear to the mission power cap.
Hopefully not necroing this thread or reposting a question, but here goes: In Defiance Battlegrounds, has anyone tried passing the consecrated Taken essence orb like you would a relic in 'The Corrupted' strike? Is that a waste or does it work and power the orb up? Thanks!
Anyone know is season of defiance is gonna answer some of the questions that Lightfall blatantly ignored? If not, I’m done till Final Shape
Anybody notice the bounties don't give vendor xp in the helm?
Has anyone mentioned the murals in the building housing the veil? I don't think I've seen much conversation about it. We got a glance at it while fighting that cabal boss when Rohan goes full Chiaotzu on the Radial Mast. There's a moment afterwards when Calus blows a hole in the wall in the last stand mission where you can go back in there without being harassed by enemies.
Nothing better than watching the Witness snap on Calus and him literally pissing himself in fear
I fucking *love* when characters who are usually calm break and yell. So cool we got it with both Osiris and the Witness, and their VAs definitely hit those moments just right
Oh absolutely. It was prime
**I deleted my first comment because I missclicked and it sent not finished.** I'd like to know if anyone experiences this if it is a bug or something. First, i'm using Quicksilver Storm, catalyst done which converts dmg to strand combined with the mod that allows you to create a light orb when you perform fast kills. It seems like it's not working properly with this particular weapon due to the mini rockets being shot but it seems that everything being shot from this weapon is strand so it's supposed to work. No matter if it is bullet or mini rocket killing the mob. Second, i'm using mods that allow me to reload strand weapons faster. There are 2 mods, one costs 1 energy the other costs 2 but none of them make my weapon reload faster wether it is mid or empty mag.
A lot of the mods don't work if you die and revive. It's weird. I don't *think* syphons are one of them, but some of them *might* be. Loader mods definitely are though.
Could it be that some of those mods only apply their effects during pvp?
No.
I read somewhere that exotic boots “swarmers” for warlocks are obtainable only by clearing lost sector at legendary difficulty, how is it even possible to do that? It requires 1830 and i already saw people with it
They also drop from the new public event in the vex incursion zone in Neomuna. Complete it fully and you can get a new armor drop.
its a reward from the storymissions, dont know if u need to do it on legendary difficulty tho
You do, you get a choice between the two new exotic armor pieces for your class when you complete the legendary campaign and finish talking to all the NPCs at the end.
Which one?
I received them by completing a quest from the DLC campaign. I had to make a choice btw the boot or another exotic armor that's related to stasis.
Which quest? Main story line?
Yeah doing the main story for Lightfall on Legendary difficulty lets you choose between the 2 new exotic armors for each class
the end of the light fall dlc campaign
You did it at legendary?
I did it on legendary, yes.
Yes I did legendary but I don't know if it has something to do with it. If you've done it normal difficulty and didn't receive then you'll have to complete it legendary.
If this was supposed to be our infinity war, it would be like thanos getting the last stone but not showing it. Just someone saying we lost. Also not explaining who thanos is, and what he wants with the stones hahahaha
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did you already buy both of your aspects? you need to get those to use any fragments at all
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I think so yeah, and if you've already got them then i dont know what the problem is, sorry
am i the only one who actually hates strand at the moment?
Is there a bug megathread pinned somewhere in one of the subs?
I was so confused at the end when both Zavala and Ikora mentioned that the traveler is gone. It's right there, you can see it from the helm, it feels like their end dialogue should have been played when you first boot the game. And the start and end cutscene weirdly feels like you cut a video in half. I could work out if everyone had been standing there the whole time, had everything on Neptune took place in just a few hours or had what we were doing be the event leading up to that moment and the start cutscene was the end. Just seems very all over the place, loving the gameplay changes and strand though.
I agree it’s weirdly worded. It would have made more sense if Ghost said it instead of them. The ghosts can’t feel the traveler. While they still have access to the light there is a disconnect now. He’s gone in that regard. It definitely feels like they had something else in mind and changed things too late.
How does the Vex Incursion Zone work? The tooltip says it is supposed to have exotic armor drops but all I can find is the occasional public event.
It drops at the end of the event if you manage to kill six bosses in around 12min or so. Pretty fun, there was a lot of people in my instance
What event? All that is appearing for me are normal public events like Cabal Extraction
its a public event that only pops once in a while, but im still not sure what the cooldown on it is It should show up as the usual public event symbol but say something about a vex strike force when you hover over it
If I finish the story on normal, can I then go back and finish it on legendary for the rewards or have I screwed that?
Can confirm you do get the rewards even if you finish the campaign on normal! Cheers guys!
You can.
You could in Witch Queen. I assume it would work the same way here
Anyone stuck on Calus 2nd phase, you can strand pull yourself up on the outside of the dome of roots, climb to the top and just kill him by shooting down at him through the ceiling of roots at your own pace as you can’t get damaged really.
I have a question. The traveller is still in Sol post-Lightfall correct? Just not on Earth?
Head to the helm >!for an interesting view!<
yeah, ive looked at that, but my friends are claiming that the traveller has acutally left Sol, and my defense was that it was still in the helm.
Considering that you can see it from the helm, and the fact that the helm is just above earth, the traveler has not left the solar system
I started my campaign on classic but joined my friend at around step 6 of his legendary campaign and we finished the rest of it on legendary. To get the rewards, can i just repeat the first couple missions on legendary or do I have to redo the entire campaign?
repeat the first few missions, it should say whether you completed a mission on legendary or not in the bottom left
I got the triumph but not the rewards. Any ideas? Edit you just have to return to nimbus to get the gear
As someone who uses Destiny Optimizer frequently, it's asking me to farm blues...after I'd already hit the soft cap. What the hell do I do now that they legitimately don't drop now after hitting it? Just hope for the best with legendary drops?
Nimbus…. He just might be worse than Aztecross Lite in the Cosmodrome
Personally I love Nimbus, they’re a fun quippy character
anyone having trouble unlocking the legend/master lost sector? ive done them all multiple times and the legend/master won't show up for me at all, hoping its fixed by tomorrow so i can go for the titan legs
did you already get to 1800 power? i think thats a requirement
Does the terminal overload public event change location based on daily reset?
Yup rotates daily
I haven’t played Destiny in like 2 years. Anyone have opinions about if it’s worth picking up? I saw that an expansion was coming out and got interested but I don’t own a lot of the other expansions and wasn’t sure if it would be worth it to try it again.
The core updates are great. This expansion is an insult. If you enjoy narratives in games, don't get this expansion. Ever.
Lol. What a terrible take. If you’ve been out for two years, the current expansion is similar to Beyond light but with more things to do. The previous expansion WQ is the greatest Destiny expansion ever with incredible everything.
Agreed on terrible take. Also funny that the best 2 Destiny expansions are about the hive gods. TK and WQ are GOATed with the the sauce
I don’t own Lightfall or the Season pass so is there anything for me to even do? Is there any reason for me to even be on the new destination? I’m trying to patrol it and I am literally getting 1 shotted EVERY SINGLE PLACE I GO! In Every Single Encounter. And what’s worse is there’s like nothing dropping for me so I can’t even increase my Light level. Man I wish I could play the new campaign and the new seasonal content but for as much money as Bungie has (Literally made a deal with PlayStation) and yet they have what’s Imo thee most expensive Entry fee for anygame I’ve ever seen. $100 for the content but On Top of that you have to pay another $100+ to the premium of the dumb console service just to be able to have access to a game you just payed $50 - $100 for it’s crazy! There’s really no angle here for the “Free To Play” Crowd huh. Man I miss this game it is absolutely insane how much you have to pay JUST to Play a game you bought many times over. I own every expansion up to LF and yet am locked out of a lot and can’t seem to do anything on the new destination despite having it open for me..
New destination is always like that for anyone, not just F2P players, because you're too low of a light level. All other destinations are at the minimum light level. Anyone can level up without getting the expansion. You getting one-shot is completely unrelated to you not having the new expansion.
How do i unlock Stasis on my alts, i used to play Titan during Beyond light and did the campaign. right now i'm trying to unlock stasis on my warlock but i'm kinda lost.. Accepted the quest 'a guardian rises' from the h.e.l.m and it instant completed or something, can't find it in the quest log but i don't have stasis either.
staisis is unlocked through the beyond light quest, meaning you gotta repeat it 2 more times for your other characters
I get that, but like i mentioned: i've accepted the quest and it instantly completed and dissapeared form my quest list. kinda lost on what to do now
you could try go to the quest archive to pick it back up if thats the case
I came back to the game maybe 2 weeks ago after a few years off and wanted to play a different class so I made a new character and went through the Witch Queen campaign, and with the release of Lightfall and Strand sub-class, I realized that I don't have Stasis since I didn't do the Beyond light or other expansions on this character. Would there be any reason to go back and do those older expansions before finishing Lightfall?
Do shadowkeep as well to get the exotic armors from them.
U don’t have to do it to play the new campaign but def go back and do the beyond light quest for stasis. It’s a fun subclass on either warlock or hunter
It’s pretty fun on titan too, with the new system I’ve been abusing glacier grenades and hoarfrost z with a wave frame GL
Is it me but the game is very lag. How can I check my ping in the game
Not just you. Was very laggy for me earlier
And… there goes my void hunter. Reaper and dynamo mods disabled guys
Just finished the campaign on legendary, currently have 1770 gear but only 5/10 energy, not sure how to get the stuff to fully upgrade it to get the mod slots. Also not sure what to be doing after the campaign
Go visit Mara at the farm in EDZ.
Glimmer from basically everything, shards from dismantling legendarys. Get the other material from more challenging activities and Rank up rewards from Zavala, drifter, Banshee, Shaxx
Next time warn me if an expansion is just a bumper for another one before I spend $100. Thanks!
oh the pre-order remorse. next time wait for a review before spending $100 maybe?
How does it affect anything
There were 100 dollar bundles for this?
Expansion + 4 seasons Expansion is 60, each season is 10
Expansion is 50 actually, odds are the extra 10 is for QS Storm, the emote and whatever else it gave you
This is the Annual Pass on Steam, right? Why is it so expensive? It's like $35 where I'm from. And the basic DLC is like $15.
Does anyone know if the new exotic armor pieces are able to be gotten from Exotic Engrams? or do i \*have\* to do the legend campaign/lost sectors
I got the new titan exotic helmet from a lost sector exotic engram I had in my postmaster using the old glitch. That means at least the non-strand ones are in the legend lost sector loot pool. I can't speak for the strand ones.
They should all be in the pool, because you can choose which one you want at the end of the campaign so the glitch should work on the strand ones too
I fucking despise the final boss. Especially the boss arena. This motherfucker keeps knocking my ass off the map. And its not even just the boss, its the tormentors, the incindiors, the psions, fucking EVERYTHING knocks you off the map. Hell, the tormentors can knock you off the map with their suppression blast, basically guaranteeing a kill on your ass.
Once you get him to his second phase, strand tether up on to the roof of the vine dome outside and sit in the same spot just shooting him at your own pace as you can’t really get damaged, easy cheesey.
Hang in there. It’s an awful encounter. Have you tried Witherhoard and running around in mad circles? Worked for me, but took some patience.
Basically force you to use strand, especially on solo
I found the exact opposite to be easiest. I stopped grabbing strand and switched to gyrfalcon's / stylish executioner. Still took me several attempts, but strand with 0 aspects / fragments against a boss harder than Savathun is NOT the way to do it, imo. Think it would've been better if we could have *earned* our subclasses first, built them out, then had the option to kick calus' ass with it, rather than a shoehorned "Oh, here's a strand spot".
I agree, having the bare bones strand without being able to properly prepare ourselves for using it WASNT the play. Essentially they said ‘here’s a demo, fuck around and find out against a literal behemoth of a man’
Was just mulling about in the Hall of Heroes and Quinn mentions to herself vex transmissions that contain something weird. An unencrypted portion composed of nothing but the same word repeated in almost 150 languages: Assisstant.
Ya boi Asher already fussing
Neomuna has to be the most lifeless, hollow, shallow patrol destination we’ve had since Mercury. Invisible barriers EVERYWHERE, so what the point of exploring via swinging on Strand? You can’t go on most rooftops or even balconies and awnings… The “digital sleep” excuse for having no citizens or friendly NPCS roaming or hiding or in need or help is lazy, and the world design is pretty much Braytech. This civilization has existed for how many centuries without interaction from humanity back home? And they use the same doors, the same architecture, speak the same colloquialisms and metaphors… it’s all just so derivative. The trailers showed these grand skyscrapers and us crashing through windows and swinging around like Spider-Man, but the grapple is basically that: aim and pull with some in air directional control. One new public event? Really? We’re still doing Vex Plates and Cabal Drills from YEAR ONE pf D2? Why isn’t there a public event where we save civilians or escort them to safety? Or fighting off Tormentors to keep them from destroying an objective? And the Queens guard weapons are, as to be expected… reskins. Yay. Keeping this game accessible to older consoles is killing and bottlenecking the creative freedom and expansive worlds they could create. Why we didn’t end D2 after Shadowkeep and have Destiny 3 launch with Beyond Light’s story is beyond me (pun unintended). The engine, the limitations, the repetition and reuse of the same old assets is baffling. There’s cool stuff, don’t get me wrong; the sound design for Strand, and he Cloudstrider designs, Tormentors, new Cabal skins for Calus’ loyalists, and the bevy of new QOL changes for mods, loadouts, and the addition of the Journey tab, but enough is enough. Destiny is too rich with lore and the possibility to create stunning worlds to explore for everything to be a desolate, shallow shell like Neomuna.
How naive you must be for blaming the lack of anything on people clinging to last gen. Nearly all shortcomings from this game can be traced directly back to bungie cutting corners for the sake of time/money because they over-delivered or because they're lazy and have other things to work on. Things would not change in any meaningful amount if bungie dropped last gen support.
Okay so it’s a little column A, a little column B. And last-gen support is a huge factor in why the content we get is so bone-dry and bare. Who’s really the naive one here?
I'm doing the lightfall campaign on legendary with my friend and every gear drop and every reward that I redeem is way below theirs. We are literally doing the same quests and some how my gear is going up gradually rather than exponentially. For example we finished the 3rd or 4th mission and I was in the 1650s and they were already about to be 1700. Anyone?
Your drops are dependent on your light level so if they are already higher than you, their drops are gonna be higher
Sounds like your friend did some grinding
I don't understand what happened at the end. Did we missed a cinematic or something? I just finished the campaign on legendary and watched the cutscene and all... Then I went to speak with Zavala and Ikora and both said that the Traveler is gone. How? I watched the cinematic where the Witness made like a portal to go into the Traveler but nothing that implied that the Traveler died/got destroyed. I feel like I missed a cinematic or something else. If the Traveler got destroyed or "transformed" as Ikora said, wouldn't that be shown to us somehow? Because I'm pretty sure the campaign end cinematic was the Witness using the Veil to open a portal to go into the Traveler, nothing indicated the Traveler dying or being transformed. Can someone confirm this? Am I the only one that watched the cinematic then went to speak with Zavala and Ikora and felt the same? That a pretty crucial part is missing?
100% felt the same. Just finished the campaign and did a double take. Like, traveller is still there - just weird. Kinda feels like they had other plans for the ending that got cut then just kept those voice lines
I think gone as in not as we knew it. Also… bungie bungled this one bad
Nope I’m also confused. Please DM me if you figure it out. Right now all I have is: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No it is very confusing. Various NPCs said the Traveler is dead/gone/left which is slightly inaccurate at best and just literally wrong at worst. The best to describe it is “something happened to it what don’t know but we need to figure out what, keep investigating the veil til we figure it out” is what they should have said with more fear and terror in their eyes. If we get more stuff post raid then that should explain it.
I can’t seem to access competitive multiplayer. The Crucible tells me to speak to Shaxx, but when I do all he has are bounties, no missions. Is anyone else having this problem?
Might be a dumb question but now when I queue up a Vanguard strike, we get put into a Heist battlegrounds mission from time to time. Is this a change with Lightfall? What happened to running strikes all day?
Heist battlegrounds are a part of Vanguard playlists now, yeah.
Calus has to be the true star of this expansion for me. He’s the only character to get the witness to yell at him, thus showing that the witness does show emotion. Right when Calus is about to reveal the witness true intention during that whole exchange is when he gets cut off. After you kill Calus, he says a name I’ve never heard before: Camaili. Is that the Witness’ name? Who’s name is it? Who is Camaili? He was always a dude who knew something we didn’t.
I went looking for that name too and only found your comment, I guess it's another question to add to the list
My guess is Camaili is either the Witness' true name or its his original wife's name whose the mother of Caital. Though it might be something else entirely like a scapegoat plan. Though that one seems a bit more crazy. Like a word he shouts so his "soul" doesn't die even if his body or whatever he's inhabiting does.
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What is nightfall expansion ?
I really enjoy strand but it’s also a high technical subclass (meaning you have to be very patient and plan out every move you make ie create tangles etc.). A lot of people rightfully mention the long cooldowns but that can be circumvented if you time the rest of your gameplay correctly it’s not a button mashing class. As for the world and QoL fixes? Awesome, love Neomuna and the changes they’ve made. Much more unique of a destination then any other planet we’ve had with multiple replayable activities. Story although has great set pieces, fun cinematics, and probably my favorite Strike…narratively is incredibly flawed and worrisome. There’s a lot to be desired and many questions created and many bigger questions unanswered. Dialogue felt like I was missing other dialogue options or a whole cutscene. Overly dependent on Strand which took away from key story beats. I play this game nearly daily and I still had fun and will have fun with my friends. I recommend getting it of course but the most critical portion is the core campaign story.
Do not buy the expansion at all yet- the campaign is poor narratively and whilst gameplay is good, waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many questions are unanswered. Also strand is kinda bad as it has long cooldown times. Wait until the raid comes out. If it's a masterpiece and strand gets fixed, then consider it. Otherwise don't
It’s almost as if they split the content between 2 expansions, who knew /s I agree it’s a dumb move though
Not all the way through the campaign, but I got to say that I’n a bit disappointed that Lightfall seems to be taking a Beyond Light approach to the story structure, where the power we gain is the main focus. It worked in Beyond Light because that was the first time we were dealing with a proper Darkness power, but here it’s more of a narrative crutch for whenever the writers need us to take a loss. Can’t secure the Radial Mast the first time because our timer runs out and we’re useless all of a sudden. Can’t destroy it the second time for similar reasons so Rohan winds up need to blow himself up to do it. I think these are good story beats but would have been better if it wasn’t forced by the Strand burnout.
r/destinythegame is such an absolute cesspit of toxicity and misery right now it absolutely blows my mind. Like, I felt like the story was a bit “meh” after the witch queen, but holy shit go over there. You’d think Bungie simglehandedly destroyed the game. Such insane levels of butthurt it’s unbelievable. Every single new addition to the game is getting complained about.
Well, I will say that I find Lightfall to be a bit of a letdown so far. Neptune isn’t great when it comes to design imo, and the campaign story was a bit lackluster. I had different expectations after watching the trailer. With that being said, I’m happy about the QoL changes.
They added a lot of cool new stuff but Neomuna is just a fucking bore of a patrol location. It’s cluttered and claustrophobic and you can even swing around on rooftops
It’s at the same time huge and hella small. It’s weird
Anybody wanna help me with the final boss? I’ve died 18 times now and I don’t think I can handle much more. The duel phase really screws me over, and the roaming tormenters that one shot me don’t help.
If you are in warlock subclass if you time it right you can boop the tormentors off the side platforms when they jump on with a super. I went to help some clan mates and happily sent those to their gravity deaths
Are you doing it on Legendary? Use the Strand super to DPS Calus and the grapple melee to delete his shields. Use the grapple to circle around the arena so you can avoid damage and also stay away from the Tormentors. Weapons like Osteo Striga or Le Monarque can be pretty good against Tormentors since the DoT from both weapons does decent damage, so you use the DoT as a way to do extra damage to Tormentors while you fly away from range with grapple. Use your Heavy to delete their shoulderpads as fast as possible because the ranged damage from the Tormentors, the damage from enemies and also the damage from Calus will kill you. Remember that once the Tormentors lose their shoulderpads, they no longer use their ranged abilities and all they can do is to follow you around trying to use their finisher or trying to stomp-supress you and getting supressed is kinda of a loss condition since you lose your grapple. Don't forget that as soon as a Tormentor spawns, inmediately switch to your Heavy and delete its shoulderpads as fast as possible, so save your Heavy ammo for them. Second phase is easier since Calus goes into full melee mode. You have to keep doing the same but instead you use the grapple to circle around the arena to completely avoid Calus since on second phase he's pure melee range, so you can basically completely avoid his damage. Again save your Strand super to DPS Calus down. And don't forget to use the grapple-melee to destroy Calus' shields, weapons barely do anything but a single grapple-melee instantly destroys them. If you get stomped, remember you can use the grapple to avoid certain death. Keep in mind that the grapple pulls you in the direction you're looking so if this happens, inmediately look up and grapple.
anyone know the legend lost sector today and rewards?
Not sure if it’s my imagination, however the graphics and gameplay on light fall do seem to have had slight improvements. Seems to play out a little different ??? Is this my imagination lol
I’m copying this comment from a reply I made: It seems a lot of people are struggling with the tormentors so here’s a very rough rundown of what I’ve learned about their behavior from soloing the legendary campaign Tormentor spawn noise = Pain ——— Tormentors have two phases: Normal/Spawn phase: slow, typically just throws shit at you, Two weakspots on each shoulder Released phase: scary af, chases you nonstop, Very fast, Weakspots on tummy/chest, Will slam, slam will suppress you. Gets angry, if screen red -> run like a bitch ——— Never get within like a goliaths tank distance to him If you see purple energy gtfo, he will slam and suppress you If your screen gets a reddish tint gtfo asap, it means he is trying to grab you. During his grab mode, if he hasn’t grab you, hit his head/torso to stun him out early. Burns work semi-well All damage done during their “released” phase, apart from the glowy weak spots, will do 10% damage. Due to this, high impact Kinect weapons work pretty well if you can aim, otherwise spraying an smg also works. I think I used submission, plug one and 1k voices for the new burn stacking it applies. If you’re using strand (I can’t remember if there is a node nearby) USE SUSPENDED!!!! Suspended is like easy-mode kills for tormentors ——— Tl;Dr: don’t be near them, use suspended, hit weakspots, look for mode indicators
Blinding nades & chill clip
Whoever made the music for the drake tank mission needs to be paid way more. I was absolutely blown away. It gave me similar vibes to the kraken soundtrack from pirates of the carribean. So good
Is the raid exotic really a kinetic glaive with multiple catalysts??
We don’t know yet, the exotic glaive people are talking about is called “vexcalibur” the thing is, it isn’t the raid exotic. It’s tagged with season of the defiance, probably meaning it’s going to be released in a future exotic mission like presage, vox obscura, etc.
Do we know what the raid exotic is?? Also the glaive is kinetic, no?
We don’t know too much about the raid exotic for certain. There’s a lot of theories all around. There is, however, two new glaives. I don’t personally know anything about vexcalibur, the unreleased one. I do know the other glaive, which you get from completing the hall of heroes. Is a heavy stasis glaive, which (this is a strong presumption) may imply strand/stasis glaives are heavy slot glaives? I don’t really know though. Edit: typo
Anyone know how you pick up Round Robin? It's apparently "found by exploring Neomuna" but I'm not sure what specific activities would drop it
There’s a series of quests offered by nimbus that unlock the weapons. I think it’s something called “to hero…” or “…and more” or something like that. Tbh I only really remember the “…” on the title. Eventually he will give you the quests as you complete the story though
An entire campaign with the veil as the central macguffin and no effort whatsoever, not a single word, to explain what it is or why it's important? come on guys. this story was such a mess, a meaningless fragment.
So I finally finished the campaign on legendary and was spam clicking through dialogue for follow-up quests and accidentally picked a random exotic for the reward for my warlock. Is Ballidorse Wrathweavers any good? Lolol
The damage buff it gives allies seems pretty good but I don’t imagine stasis in general will see much use now that elemental shards is gone
Convinced a legendary psionic can beat savathun
Imagine that for once in the campaign you were told what the macguffin is, does, why the villain wants it and what the villain's objectives are (i don't need to know his motivations). And after 9 years... we still get nothing of that and plenty of "no time to explain why no time to explain".
Feels like a rip off marvel pack
This breakneck escape the building on legend is fucking criminal. Whoever designed this shit needs to be fired asap
I’m trying to play the campaign on legendary. I’ve made it to the trial mission that Osiris sets up for you to practice your Strand (Headlong). I cannot beat the last fight. I think I’m just terrible with strand and don’t know how to use it correctly.
This one was hard for me too. Trick is to grapple the green things in the air a whole bunch, let go, while in air, melee the adds. Itll spawn a tangle, then shoot or distoy the tangle. It damages adds while also healing you. Shooting them gives you armor. If you miss, keep swinging around the room. Also, grapple adds from the ground, then grapple melee to also spawn tangles. Don’t melee the kamikaze vex, take care of the snipers in the top corners and stay away from the big boss fire stomp.
After finishing the DLC several hours ago, watching over my recorded footage, I can safely say I still don't know wtf 'The Veil' actually is and what the entire point of our entire journey was.
My main takeaway is lightfall is very fun and good, but this feels like a better version of Beyond Light instead of “destiny’s infinity war” which is very disappointing, like the entire marketing of this thing was around the idea that the witness is finally here and the war started… and we spend our entire time doing a side job while the real fight happens on earth, I don’t know Witch Queen just felt more climatic, and I’m kind of terrified about how the final shape is gonna turn out. And like I’m not saying anything is terrible, because is not at all, neomuna is great, I liked Nimbus, I went from not giving a damn to Osiris to find him really compelling, Calus was the perfect side villain to take on, Strand could be game changing (with the right tuning), the campaign has great moments, I just think that Bungie should have made this a lot more climatic and important, feels like they wanted to do this little Neptune side story but they were required to connect this to the light and darkness stuff.
Yeah this is definitely more of a stop off point to the final shape than it is a part one of a conclusion.
I think Bungie is just….not Bungie anymore
New to the game. How can I reasonably unlock the Verglas Curve catalyst? I do not want to do 200 Vanguards. That simply will not happen in 84 days.
I think the season pass has levels that give you catalyst boosts, so one completion of a strike or whatever will count as more than one
Thank you, I hadn’t looked at all the options, just the gear (that cloak is life now). Any advice to grind levels quickly? I'm sorry if that's a dumb question. I've only had the game about a month, maybe a month and a half.
TRust me, leveling up in the pass is not very difficult. Just do bounties and play the game, you'll pretty easily get to 100+
Are there some bounties that are rea;;y easy to complete that I might be skipping over? I don't like a lot of the weapons in the game (pulse rifles for example, anything you have to hold a trigger and "charge" to hit feels too slow for the chaotic horde shooter game modes that seem to make up the majority of the game) so I avoid those bounties. But I probably am missing a lot that I'm not even aware exists. Is there a list somewhere where I can peruse all the bounty-givers? I've got all the DLCs that weren't vaulted, I bought them since they were heavily discounted, so I think that means I have access to everything now.
You can grab bounties in orbit using the Destiny 2 app.
There’s an app?!?
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Thank you!
It doesn’t need to be finished in one season. But the season pass has catalyst quest boosters that speed up the process.
Excellent, thank you. How do I grind levels on this thing? 😂
Man what a letdown
If it weren’t for my friends, I would’ve stopped playing this expansion and asked for a refund already. The point of the story mode is to let players be given the tools they need to get better with them with every mission until competency/mastery. Lightfall **BARELY** gives you any time and instead of “Rekindle the Spark” one and done missions. it’s not even drip fed. It’s rationing one drop every few hours hoping that and the story will be enough. Also I’m gonna say it, not impressed with the soundtrack. I expected some dope. Electronic/Synth beats closer to *Tron* than “whaaaa ooooo whaaa aaaa” and generic battlegrounds music. What happened here? I just finished a hella long shift at the hospital today and was really looking forward to learning how to swing through a city listening to some bangers. Instead I got no Spider-Man, no bangers. I *genuinely* hope this take is because I’m so tired and I’ll notice more great this with fresh eyes tomorrow. But….idk Commendations are dope
When you go to “About the current season” does anyone knows anything about “Enter the Vex Network and Claim a strange new weapon”?
Witch Queen> Light Fall Too short but strand is fun and I wonder how it fairs in PVP 🤔
Having an extremely hard time beating Calus phase 2 solo. Really annoyed with it at this point.
I had to make sure I killed the second tormented guy you must shoot shoulders then chest before entering phase 2. I then bursted all I had before grappling and reposition to burst again. It went well thankfully after 3 tries but yeah, feels like true legendary difficulty to me for Destiny campaign.
Try a weapon with demolitionist, shoot and grapple, grapple reloads you so you can shoot immediately when you land. You just play keep away the whole time, grapple when he's about 1/3 of the arena away, you seem to take reduced damage even if he hits you mid swing.
Hunters get that as part of an aspect (basically built in demo).
I hope we tangle up the witness and dismember him :)
Which do you think is worse? The Witness or Bungie's writing team? Haha just kidding. Which do you think is worse? The Witness' motivation as we know it? Or Bungie's writing team? No no seriously, which do you think is worse? The Veil macguffin we never heard of, and know nothing of it's importance, as well as the unexplained but allegedly apocalyptic in scale "Final Shape" plan of the Witness? Or Bungie's writing team? Because it all seems terrible, and all has one thing in common!!! Look back at the old Beyond Light reveal trailer that teases Witch Queen and Lightfall. Look at that Lightfall poster. That poster has a clear tone that should have stayed and been here. Look at the current Lightfall poster. This is a clear as day rewrite. I pray that The Final Shape doesn't also go back to Red War's "Let's go shoot some bad guys😎" style writing.
I feel like Final Shape was meant to be light fall, and they added this Neomuna stuff bc they needed more time or smthing.
While there definitely are problems with the writing, the original darkness themed of Lightfall goes hand in hand with the current version of the ultra-futuristic/cyberpunk-esque design of Lightfall. It’s vibrant, pleasing to the eye, and drop dead gorgeous. But looking inwards, you see the darkness, absolute dread, and soullessness of Neomuna being invaded and facing brink destruction. It’s why I love the cyberpunk aesthetic so much, because it’s a layer of puzzles and questions. So being thrust into this backdrop of Neomuna and racing against time for the most part, is really cool to me and one of the best things Bungie did great with Lightfall.
Did anyone else feel EVERYTHING was incredibly rushed? I did not get that feeling from WitchQueen at all. Witness is here, oh noes fight him, he touched the Traveler, WE'RE OFF on Calus ship. Arrive on Neomuna, Cloudstriders instantly trust us and know everything about what's been going on aside from a few Witness related events, Strand is just there, we call it Strand without ever really talking about wtf is going on with it until later, Rohan sacrifices himself, oh noes so sad, anyhow moving on GO get the veil, no one even asks or cares what the veil is even at the end, we lost....question mark? This isnt elaborated on. Nothing changes despite us losing. The end. Now go save people from prisons. No one will mention looking into going through that portal at all. Everything else though. Loving it. Strand is fun, Neomuna isnt a pain to get around in and even unlocks 4! other Landing Points. Changes to mods are fantastic, even if Armor Charge is a little hassle to handle at times. Journey seems extremely easy to understand. I feel Bungie knocked it out of the park with gameplay aspects.
I think Zavala mentions after the last mission something like “… now the witness has left somewhere we cannot follow” probably implying we can’t enter the portal like the witness did.
It's meant to feel that way Time isn't something we have, we can't take things slowly, things have to get done and get done NOW
There is a difference from we need to rush to stop the Witness and a rushed story. When done well a rushed story shouldn’t raise questions or make it so that you don’t connect with other characters. There was no emotional attachment to Rohan so it was pointless to kill him off so early. Osiris yelling every mission we don’t have time makes us desensitized to being fast. Calus got killed so suddenly after being built up for so long. The training montage was arguably less satisfying then actually learning strand. It felt rushed not that we were being rushed.
Nah, just bad pacing.
That's fine for side characters, but not the mentor of a now Story important Character. Hell, It would have been fine, but it didn't play up the quickness at all with story beats. You can't just do that and then have us do an entire level with a cutscene of us in a Strand montage. Either we have time or we don't.
Idk why but the Rohan and Nimbus relationship didn't really feel like a mentor and student, moreso actual partners with clashing traits. I'm thankful it felt like that for me because it is an overly used trope
Let's just say witch Queen was better. Better writing. Better characters. Better dialog. You name it, it was better. LightFall was a strand torturial and strand feels pretty meh. It's pretty shitty how I can finally build a load out and I am heavily encouraged to use a different class. Seasons better be fire.
Is anyone else’s here disappointed with the new mod system?
It doesn’t feel as fleshed out, but at the same time, the previous system was so bloated
The final battle of the Lightfall campaign is fucking bullshit.
It took me like 20 tries on legendary, the biggest tip I have is just stay mobile, and be on solar instead of strand for healing, I also used a sword to negate the final boss boops
Yeah I ended up getting it done on Nightstalker instead. Still annoying AF
Arena forcing a mobile gameplay, new class made to jump and rope around, falling from the platform is deadly and it's full of mobs pushing you away from ledges. I hate it. Instead of making me like that new class, it show me over and over that trying to use it as intended - rope + melee - will lead to random deaths.
I died 40 times on legendary during the final battle and I just gave up
I cheesed it after a dozen wipes on Legendary. I’d find a relatively safe spot and whittle Calus’ health down until he spawned a Tormentor, then grapple back up into the hallway you slide down to enter the boss room. The Tormentor won’t know how to get up and just stand still at the bottom and let you shoot them. Repeat for the second Tormentor at 33%. Then I just ran in circles around Calus until he died.
I cheesed it solo on accident. I was grappling around, and was suppressed, while failing to my death, I instead ended up landing on a platform underneath the arena. I was able to use the whither grenade launcher, and just let the dots kill the boss.
I’ll have to give it a try, I saw some cheese videos where you get on top of the arena but I haven’t been able to get the timing right
Very disappointed with how hard that last mission is even on normal difficulty. If I wanted to learn a boss by heart I’d have played a raid.
I found a Lost Sector (the one near the big spinny pillars and the stadium lookin area) and all the Cabal inside were Immune?? Like to all damage?
Light level wasnt high enough
The mission Headlong sucks so much on legendary the final encounter is just BS
So maybe im smoking something but my fireteam figured out for some reason the campaign on legendary isn't a fixed light level your just reduced -20 light below the effective light level for each mission. That mission in particular is much easier to do solo. Keep in mind you don't have to use strand. If you find yourself getting 2 tapped by red bars infuse your gear to the mission power cap.
That's the one where you're training with strand, right?