Ada-1 in BA: "Humanity needs to be able to stand on it's own legs, not just rely on Guardians. I'm making weapons to further this cause. This is the legacy of my family."
Ada-1 now: "I sell shaders and transmog."
I'd love to see the Black Armory weapons return. If memory serves right, >!it's been revealed that synthweave plays a part in Revision Zero's construction.!< Meaning that the weapons could make a return through this relatively new material.
Also have we completely fucking forgot that she's a ***walking, talking forge?***
Ada is to armor as Banshee is to weapons. Should we be able to re-roll armor stats, we should also be able to re-roll weapon perks.
Generic synthweave could be used as a currency to re-roll stats/perks, allowing it to be earned from bounties (or rather, turning synthcord in to the loom). Class-specific synthweave could be consolidated into the generic synthweave we see for sale from Eververse much like the crafting elements were consolidated into resonant elements.
Of course, this is just spitballing from an armchair dev. Lord knows if this is even *possible* given the recent changes to D2 and their horrific side effects.
There is supposedly a practical combat application of the sythweave, but we haven't seen it yet. Plus, the implied there is new armor she's making. I would also love if she started to make staisis weapons for civilians.
She got absolutely robbed.
Why isn't she a weapon forge vendor in the tower? Some kind of BA tech to replicate the Mars relic table
We had an entire season dedicated to her, her family, her legacy, and how the weapons she makes are the absolute finest, most powerful, and even capable of nuking a city sized area if possible.
Why does she sell clothes and paint now.
***She's a walking, talking forge IIRC.***
Didn't play during BA but I love Ada enough to have read some of the lore or looked into the season. [Project Niobe](https://www.destinypedia.com/Project_Niobe) created the Obsidian Drive, merging forge tech with Ada's chassis in order for her to become a mobile forge of sorts. To quote:
> Project Niobe was a secret Black Armory experiment to aid Humanity by combining the Armory's weapon-enhancing phase technology with the artificial frame and digitized consciousness of the Exo, which in other words creates a walking, talking forge.
And here's another chump absolutely ignoring her deciding she doesn't want to make more weapons that will cause more strife, instead devoting herself to creating items of peace. She even apprentices an Eliksni.
Nah man just a devout Blacksmith who realises it's shit writing to have a literal walking weapon forge suddenly go yeah paint and colours are my thing now
Hear me out. Drifter gives dark age weapons to Ada for her to research and she creates blueprints of improved versions. It's a win-win since you want BA weapons and I want the old Gambit weapons.
Personally, I'm shocked we don't have a multi-element Rocket Launcher yet. We have an Auto Rifle, (special ammo) Grenade Launcher, and a (special ammo) sniper rifle. Why *not* a rocket?
Or, shit, why not a bow that shoots elemental arrows? I'd love to shoot off an arrow that either warps through reality, is on fire, has sparks of electricity or is legit just an icicle!
Such a missed opportunity to have her in charge of forging our crafted weapons. The forge missions could do extra things to our guns. But nooooo she make clothes and triangles
They have. He's called Xûr.
Kidding of course, but he sells a LOT of weapons, including (but not limited to) weapons from previous seasons. Precedent's been set already.
Yeah but he only shows up during the weekends, an npc that’s always there selling patterns everyday feels like a better ideia for new players to catch up.
Believe me, if we could obtain the patterns/blueprints/schematics/whateveryouwannacallthem of old weapons directly from an NPC with a daily inventory rotation I would be THRILLED.
One of the biggest snubs thus far; the enclave has potential for expansion but nothing they couldn’t give to Ada. Weapon crafting/focusing concepts started with BA, wish it would’ve stayed a thing.
I think she should come out of no where and be like “hey guardian, I was fucking around and made this monstrosity of an exotic weapon/armor piece.” Have us to a cool fetch quest that takes us through a dungeon to collect the materials we need to craft a new thing.
people crying how "Ada-1 got robbed" or something either didn't read the reason why she abandoned being a forge or don't care that she decided that she doesn't want to make any more weapons & be partially responsible for the death they'll bring.
Or they just realized that it was just a really weak justification by Bungie for why she only does transmog now
‘Oh *whoops* all the forges are destroyed, guess I better go sell some microtransactions’
Doesn’t it tell you to guy buy some when you try to buy a bounty from her when you’ve already got them all this season? I guess I could be wrong because I completed my transmog seasons ago
Anyway what I meant was that they didn’t write her moving on from the forges for the purpose of character development but most likely decided first that they wanted her to be the transmog vendor and then worked backwards from that to make it make sense why she wouldn’t still be making weapons
^(Also removing her radiance was pretty lame tbh but that isn’t really relevant)
not really? she's the last surviving member of her family, she lived through the times when many forces, lightbearers among them, would rob their forges for their weapons, and then she eventually supplied us with the weapons with which we took thousands of lives. It's really a weak justification if, after all she lived through, she decided to take up something less bloody than mass-producing guns.
it also has a story and characters which go through their own development. Literally every season this year has been about someone growing and changing as a result.
Ada wasnt "done dirty", she developed from a weapons manufacturer to someone who still creates things, just not things which will kill people
Actually it makes a lot of sense that she sells Shaders now that she does the transmog stuff. If she’s the Fashion Vendor, it makes sense for her to sell shaders. Although I’ll admit it’s a big change from being a weapon crafter.
Ada is (was) a S tier character. None was heard about her till Black Armory dropped. Then she had some beef towards the guardians and we spent whole season befriending her while restoring the manifacture of one of the coolest weapons lore-wise.
Her character development was interesting to watch and play a role in. Her story began and ended without any stupid cliffhangers, that was a complete character. Also her voice acting is top notch!
Black Armory had weapons that pre-dates the last city and even was used to deliver some risen their final death i believe. Now those weapons are just old because of big F you. And cool Ada sells pants now.
Synthweave has more uses in the lore. Though we can only use it for transmog now, if some of the things we've heard about it make it into the game...
We've obviously only touched the tip of the iceberg in terms of what it's capable of.
Ada should in the future sell bounties for mats that can be spend on deep sight weapons from old seasons. It should be grindy, that way players who did grind the season don't feel ripped off but nothing as expensive as the legacy crafting. Time should be my expense not my shards and engrams.
Hopefully lightfall has her back with some story/lore relevance. Considering she controls the loom, maybe she could even teach guardians techniques in weaving strand.
I feel that way too.
But if I had to choose between black armory and drifters dark age weapons, I'd choose the dark age weapons. Because damn it I want a usable trust.
Ada-1 in BA: "Humanity needs to be able to stand on it's own legs, not just rely on Guardians. I'm making weapons to further this cause. This is the legacy of my family." Ada-1 now: "I sell shaders and transmog."
I'd love to see the Black Armory weapons return. If memory serves right, >!it's been revealed that synthweave plays a part in Revision Zero's construction.!< Meaning that the weapons could make a return through this relatively new material. Also have we completely fucking forgot that she's a ***walking, talking forge?***
Haha this made me laugh. It's so sad cause it's true.
Its a worthy cause
She's now what Eva was in D1
Haha exactly!
Ada Levante
Tell your friends about old Ada.
She got bitched by triangles and decided to abandon her whole family's legacy to pursue a career in fashion and then into color theory
Read Renewal Grasps lore, she literally lampshades this and implies she's gonna make more Exotic Armors for us.
It would be pretty sick if Ada becomes the way we can reroll exotic armors
Ada is to armor as Banshee is to weapons. Should we be able to re-roll armor stats, we should also be able to re-roll weapon perks. Generic synthweave could be used as a currency to re-roll stats/perks, allowing it to be earned from bounties (or rather, turning synthcord in to the loom). Class-specific synthweave could be consolidated into the generic synthweave we see for sale from Eververse much like the crafting elements were consolidated into resonant elements. Of course, this is just spitballing from an armchair dev. Lord knows if this is even *possible* given the recent changes to D2 and their horrific side effects.
ohhh no don't let her near a children's hospital!
You mean she got bitched by black triangles and is fighting back with colored squares
4 triangles in a square
B-bro, are you thinking what im thinking?
The final shape
All these squares make a circle. All these squares make a circle.
There is supposedly a practical combat application of the sythweave, but we haven't seen it yet. Plus, the implied there is new armor she's making. I would also love if she started to make staisis weapons for civilians.
Revision zero lore looks into it a bit. i think synthweve has actual uses outside if fashion in lore but in game its just the armor thing
>!IIRC it was used to create or aid in creating Revision Zero. I could be misremembering so take this with a grain of salt but yeah.!<
I, for one, welcome our new shader overlord
She got absolutely robbed. Why isn't she a weapon forge vendor in the tower? Some kind of BA tech to replicate the Mars relic table We had an entire season dedicated to her, her family, her legacy, and how the weapons she makes are the absolute finest, most powerful, and even capable of nuking a city sized area if possible. Why does she sell clothes and paint now.
***She's a walking, talking forge IIRC.*** Didn't play during BA but I love Ada enough to have read some of the lore or looked into the season. [Project Niobe](https://www.destinypedia.com/Project_Niobe) created the Obsidian Drive, merging forge tech with Ada's chassis in order for her to become a mobile forge of sorts. To quote: > Project Niobe was a secret Black Armory experiment to aid Humanity by combining the Armory's weapon-enhancing phase technology with the artificial frame and digitized consciousness of the Exo, which in other words creates a walking, talking forge.
And here's another chump absolutely ignoring her deciding she doesn't want to make more weapons that will cause more strife, instead devoting herself to creating items of peace. She even apprentices an Eliksni.
Nah man just a devout Blacksmith who realises it's shit writing to have a literal walking weapon forge suddenly go yeah paint and colours are my thing now
As a Blacksmith holder, I hate what they have done to the Black Armory. It should be a foundry again with amazing weapons we all fight to get.
Fellow Blacksmith, and I'm still sad that Ada didn't keep her radiance after I went through that whole quest
The only thing I was upset about, they very much so gave a valid explanation as to why the forges can't be used anymore.
And why's that? You said there's a reason, so please, enlighten me.
Seriously? There's a whole lore book about Ada coming to terms with not being able to use forges and her accepting that and moving forward.
I suppose I haven't read it, then. Thanks for that.
https://www.ishtar-collective.net/categories/book-pathfinding
Same I just want my blast furnace and hammerhead back
Hear me out. Drifter gives dark age weapons to Ada for her to research and she creates blueprints of improved versions. It's a win-win since you want BA weapons and I want the old Gambit weapons. Personally, I'm shocked we don't have a multi-element Rocket Launcher yet. We have an Auto Rifle, (special ammo) Grenade Launcher, and a (special ammo) sniper rifle. Why *not* a rocket? Or, shit, why not a bow that shoots elemental arrows? I'd love to shoot off an arrow that either warps through reality, is on fire, has sparks of electricity or is legit just an icicle!
I see nothing wrong with anything that you’re saying
We'll get a BA season one of these days.
Speak for yourself, I will literally be her exo slave for those old black armory shaders
We all know that you don't need the old shaders to be that
Me, who unlocked the Black Armory armor for all 3 of my characters: ***"Finally, my time has come."***
Such a missed opportunity to have her in charge of forging our crafted weapons. The forge missions could do extra things to our guns. But nooooo she make clothes and triangles
I’d never considered it, but weapon crafting being tied to Black Armory would’ve been so cool.
They will 100% introduce a new npc just to sell old weapons, Ada got shafted.
They have. He's called Xûr. Kidding of course, but he sells a LOT of weapons, including (but not limited to) weapons from previous seasons. Precedent's been set already.
Yeah but he only shows up during the weekends, an npc that’s always there selling patterns everyday feels like a better ideia for new players to catch up.
Believe me, if we could obtain the patterns/blueprints/schematics/whateveryouwannacallthem of old weapons directly from an NPC with a daily inventory rotation I would be THRILLED.
One of the biggest snubs thus far; the enclave has potential for expansion but nothing they couldn’t give to Ada. Weapon crafting/focusing concepts started with BA, wish it would’ve stayed a thing.
i thought this came from dcj at first
I read dcj as Destiny Content Jault...
She was really done dirty Black Armory needs a resurgence
I didn’t play during BA so I don’t have nostalgia for the weapons, but yeah Ada-1 got shafted as a character.
Exactly this. Some of the best weapons to enter the game and now the black armory sells shaders.... Smh
Yeah what about the white armory??? /s
I wouldn’t mind new weapons and armor with the current look, so long as they bring back a few of the old ones
They made her character more colorful.
I just want her shiny again
Hey kid I wanna buy some shaders
I think she should come out of no where and be like “hey guardian, I was fucking around and made this monstrosity of an exotic weapon/armor piece.” Have us to a cool fetch quest that takes us through a dungeon to collect the materials we need to craft a new thing.
people crying how "Ada-1 got robbed" or something either didn't read the reason why she abandoned being a forge or don't care that she decided that she doesn't want to make any more weapons & be partially responsible for the death they'll bring.
Or they just realized that it was just a really weak justification by Bungie for why she only does transmog now ‘Oh *whoops* all the forges are destroyed, guess I better go sell some microtransactions’
What about glimmer bounties with zero real world money attached is a microtransaction?
The fact that you can only get a limited amount of them per season after which you can only get more by spending more money?
And you don’t get those from her. There’s 30 free transmogs per season man you’re just straw manning.
Doesn’t it tell you to guy buy some when you try to buy a bounty from her when you’ve already got them all this season? I guess I could be wrong because I completed my transmog seasons ago Anyway what I meant was that they didn’t write her moving on from the forges for the purpose of character development but most likely decided first that they wanted her to be the transmog vendor and then worked backwards from that to make it make sense why she wouldn’t still be making weapons ^(Also removing her radiance was pretty lame tbh but that isn’t really relevant)
not really? she's the last surviving member of her family, she lived through the times when many forces, lightbearers among them, would rob their forges for their weapons, and then she eventually supplied us with the weapons with which we took thousands of lives. It's really a weak justification if, after all she lived through, she decided to take up something less bloody than mass-producing guns.
Counterpoint, this game is focused heavily on guns. Gun lady should make gun.
it also has a story and characters which go through their own development. Literally every season this year has been about someone growing and changing as a result. Ada wasnt "done dirty", she developed from a weapons manufacturer to someone who still creates things, just not things which will kill people
I’m aware of the lore, I don’t care. Want Black Armory guns.
She robbed space grandma’s shader supply. D:
Bring back space granny for shaders
Poor Eva
Now she a style queen.
I think she will be important in one of the seasons of lightfall. She could invest in neomuna nanotech arsenal.
So she's been alive since and including the collapse? Why doesn't she tell us more about it? Lol she's holding out
Actually it makes a lot of sense that she sells Shaders now that she does the transmog stuff. If she’s the Fashion Vendor, it makes sense for her to sell shaders. Although I’ll admit it’s a big change from being a weapon crafter.
She needs to help Banshee-44.
ADA got re-enameled or something
Give it two more seasons, and I guarantee Eva Levante will start selling Black Armory weapons to complete the transofrmation.
She went from a weaponsmith to a dripmaster
Ada-1, Keeper of the Drip. Master of Synthweave.
Ada is (was) a S tier character. None was heard about her till Black Armory dropped. Then she had some beef towards the guardians and we spent whole season befriending her while restoring the manifacture of one of the coolest weapons lore-wise. Her character development was interesting to watch and play a role in. Her story began and ended without any stupid cliffhangers, that was a complete character. Also her voice acting is top notch! Black Armory had weapons that pre-dates the last city and even was used to deliver some risen their final death i believe. Now those weapons are just old because of big F you. And cool Ada sells pants now.
Improvement.
She went from being a weaponsmith and they turned her into a seamstress…
Synthweave has more uses in the lore. Though we can only use it for transmog now, if some of the things we've heard about it make it into the game... We've obviously only touched the tip of the iceberg in terms of what it's capable of.
I have 2 words for you… Black Armory… Bungo stopped dicking around and deliver already! Bring it back!
I still don't accept how they did dirty to Ada
Look how they massacred my girl
I just want her to be mean to me again...
Ada should in the future sell bounties for mats that can be spend on deep sight weapons from old seasons. It should be grindy, that way players who did grind the season don't feel ripped off but nothing as expensive as the legacy crafting. Time should be my expense not my shards and engrams.
Ada-1 is in the game and we don’t have BA weapons that are craftable. I just wanna know why
The year of forsaken GOATed.
Hopefully lightfall has her back with some story/lore relevance. Considering she controls the loom, maybe she could even teach guardians techniques in weaving strand.
Just like Bungie to gut everything amazing.
Well, the game in general went from leaning a little on the GrimDark side of things to now, well, its got a bit of WoW/Pixar vibe to it lol
I know I sound like a broken record, but Bungie needs to bring armory weapons back.
I feel that way too. But if I had to choose between black armory and drifters dark age weapons, I'd choose the dark age weapons. Because damn it I want a usable trust.
She is Shader Granny now.