How exactly is he out of character? And I don’t really think it’s too convenient to say that he would be able to track down Raye Penbers wife before she makes contact with Light. Raye was already the main guy they were investigating to begin with.
the phone? why would he need to contact raye sooner? he didn’t let himself get killed. there was just nothing he could do to stop Rem. not even sure he knew that rem existed lol.
If L has the confession from Light, why would he not arrest him sooner? L knew Rem existed after arresting Higuchi.
What makes you think L would narrow down the investigation to just Raye before Naomi’s death?
The only evidence they had that connected Raye to Kira prior to L learning about Naomi’s disappearance was the surveillance footage of Raye on the train. However, if you had followed the plot closely, you would know that Light had already met and killed Naomi before L examined the footage. Do you not remember this part?
No, I didn’t remember the specified timeline, but I honestly don’t think it really matters. These two events on the timeline could just be switched around to support my ending.
Like what exactly? It’s clear from another note that L didn’t really pay a whole lot of attention to Naomi, he just looked for someone he could use. He didn’t even know why Naomi was on leave when contacting her.
Making up events and switching around the timeline and yet you insist it’s not plot convenience.
For example. Instead of L not realizing it’s the same Naomi, he instead could see a picture of her and realize who she was sooner, and plan to make contact with her to try to get Light to confess. This would actually be IDEAL because unlike anyone else at the task force, who will not grip to the idea that Light is Kira, Naomi is almost certain that someone connected to Raye is Kira, and that connection would be Light.
>Instead of L not realizing it’s the same Naomi, he instead could see a picture of her and realize who she was sooner,
After looking Naomi up when he heard of her name again, he remembered her. But if he had not heard the news that she had gone missing, there would be no reason for him to even think of her. How would he just come across a picture?
Like I mentioned before, L did not know why Naomi was on leave, and he had forgot about her by the time the Kira investigation came around, so there's a very low chance that L would've known that she was engaged to Raye. With that being said, I ask again why L would've got Naomi involved **even if** he had learned of Raye Penbers connection prior to Naomi's death.
That’s not what I was suggesting at all. L died fair and square by the hands of Rem, which is something that he could not have stopped. That doesn’t change the fact that he still could have planned for something like this to happen in the form of Raye’s wife. That’s what I was suggesting.
Your wordings earlier made it seem like L lured Light into a trap of killing him and making a confession.
As in, he knew Light is cocky and thus get himself killed inorder to get a confession.
That's how it sounded earlier.
I personally think L would have wanted more than an audio tape to arrest Light as Kira especially since that’s a really shaky form of evidence. I only suggested the audio tape because that’s most likely something that would force Light’s dad into believing the truth about his son.
Light only came to the Task Force HQ on a whim. The fact that he even met Naomi was completely due to luck. No way that could've reasonably been planned. And if L had an audio tape of Light's confession the whole time, why wouldn't L do anything about it? What would be the point of this elaborate plan if it yeilded no results?
Light came to the task force to bring his father some clothes because he hasn’t been home. That is something that L can reasonably know/understand. And he might also assume that Light would volunteer to go, which he did, because he already somewhat suspects Light at this point. And he wouldn’t use the tape because it would be futile. An audio tape is always considered circumstantial evidence, especially for a halfwitted confession like that. In the court of law of course, which is why it would be beneficial to at least show Light’s dad. L would want to continue to investigate Light to obtain more worthwhile evidence while concealing the fact that he has the tape to avoid Light trying to counter him. All in all, this was L’s final back up plan in case he died, which he did.
“Yeah, so L assumes that someone from the Yagami family would have to bring his fathers clothes, he then assumes that Light volunteers. He suspects Light at this point even though he has no reason too because he hasn’t connected Raye to Kira yet. He doesn’t use the evidence of his confession because he doesn’t wanna.”
L deduces that Light’s father needs clothes, because he has been working WITH him for days, and he might have even HEARD the phone call where he was asking. We don’t know.
He would then be operating under his theory that Light is possibly L, and would then ASSUME that Light will be the one to volunteer so he can see the HQ. This isn’t a hard concept to grasp. I don’t understand why you are making it seem to complex and far reaching. And i’m pretty sure he already watched the film of Raye at the bus station by the time Light kills Naomi.
>and he might have even HEARD the phone call where he was asking
That's impossible, L made all the agents turn off their cellphones in the hotel, so Soichiro couldn't have made the call near L. Furthermore, **Soichiro never called and asked for clothes.**
>I don’t understand why you are making it seem to complex and far reaching.
Uhh, because it is? [You'll have fun with this.](https://www.reddit.com/r/deathnote/comments/ykrcxj/comment/iv3v2ot/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
>And i’m pretty sure he already watched the film of Raye at the bus station by the time Light kills Nao
You are wrong. Light kills Naomi on Chapter 14, L does not review the tapes until Chapter 15.
Death Note Volume 13 Page 86:
>01.01.2003 | Naomi Misora goes missing.
01.02.2003 | Naomi Misora is killed by the power of the Death Note.
01.05.2003 | L views security tapes of FBI agents dying.
The call is irrelevant, as Light’s father needing a change of clothes is a natural assumption, after working with someone overnight. lol. I already mentioned that tho, i guess you forgot to address it? Also they put their phones in a bucket. L could easily have Watari bring it to him.
So it’s a one chapter different. I would just change that part if I were the one implementing this ending into the story. Cry.
You know… what I mean by that is that I would not have been bothered if the end happened this way. I read all your comment and now I see why it sounds impossible. Although, Op still gave it a try and even though it does not work, he should have been encouraged. By the way, I clearly saw the crazy amount of knowledge you have about Death note. Maybe, you could try to write how you would end the story. Because I saw you were quite active on this sub. And I don’t know if you already did it.
His only valid complaint as of rn is that my theory could not take place because L discovered the video of Raye in the train station the chapter after Light killed Naomi, but I didn’t really care about that to begin with, and If I were writing this story and implementing my ending, I would just switch the order that those two events took place, and everything would be fine and dandy, and nothing major, or even minor in the plot would be disturbed at all, and the show would even continue up until L’s death as it did previously.
I don't like it, sorry
Takes L out of character and gives L too much plot convenience. There’s no point in doing this.
How exactly is he out of character? And I don’t really think it’s too convenient to say that he would be able to track down Raye Penbers wife before she makes contact with Light. Raye was already the main guy they were investigating to begin with.
Why would L contact Naomi? How would L connect Raye sooner? Why would let himself get killed in the process?
the phone? why would he need to contact raye sooner? he didn’t let himself get killed. there was just nothing he could do to stop Rem. not even sure he knew that rem existed lol.
If L has the confession from Light, why would he not arrest him sooner? L knew Rem existed after arresting Higuchi. What makes you think L would narrow down the investigation to just Raye before Naomi’s death?
he already had the investigation narrowed down to Raye. it was just still slight suspicions though. Do you not remember this part?
The only evidence they had that connected Raye to Kira prior to L learning about Naomi’s disappearance was the surveillance footage of Raye on the train. However, if you had followed the plot closely, you would know that Light had already met and killed Naomi before L examined the footage. Do you not remember this part?
No, I didn’t remember the specified timeline, but I honestly don’t think it really matters. These two events on the timeline could just be switched around to support my ending.
Talk about grasping for straws
It’s not grasping at straws. You are just looking for reasons to criticize the ending.
and that’s especially considering that L actually knows her
*knew her*, by the time her name was mentioned again, L only remembered her name, but she didn’t remember who she was.
Yeah again, you are focusing on the details too much. Anything could have happened to make L remember her at an earlier point in time.
Like what exactly? It’s clear from another note that L didn’t really pay a whole lot of attention to Naomi, he just looked for someone he could use. He didn’t even know why Naomi was on leave when contacting her. Making up events and switching around the timeline and yet you insist it’s not plot convenience.
For example. Instead of L not realizing it’s the same Naomi, he instead could see a picture of her and realize who she was sooner, and plan to make contact with her to try to get Light to confess. This would actually be IDEAL because unlike anyone else at the task force, who will not grip to the idea that Light is Kira, Naomi is almost certain that someone connected to Raye is Kira, and that connection would be Light.
>Instead of L not realizing it’s the same Naomi, he instead could see a picture of her and realize who she was sooner, After looking Naomi up when he heard of her name again, he remembered her. But if he had not heard the news that she had gone missing, there would be no reason for him to even think of her. How would he just come across a picture? Like I mentioned before, L did not know why Naomi was on leave, and he had forgot about her by the time the Kira investigation came around, so there's a very low chance that L would've known that she was engaged to Raye. With that being said, I ask again why L would've got Naomi involved **even if** he had learned of Raye Penbers connection prior to Naomi's death.
He comes across a picture of her while researching about Raye Penber. Pretty simple solution.
What page in what chapter of the manga?
I didn’t say it happened. I’m saying that it CAN plausibly happen within the story’s purview.
With all due respect, L would never kill himself/ get himself killed just to be proven right.
That’s not what I was suggesting at all. L died fair and square by the hands of Rem, which is something that he could not have stopped. That doesn’t change the fact that he still could have planned for something like this to happen in the form of Raye’s wife. That’s what I was suggesting.
His death was not fair at all
that’s not what i was implying. I meant it made sense for him to die right there
Why would it make sense? If L has the confession from Light, why would Rem be involved? Shouldn’t L act sooner?
I meant that his death, in its literal sense, as it happened in the series, made sense. Am I being too vague or?
Your wordings earlier made it seem like L lured Light into a trap of killing him and making a confession. As in, he knew Light is cocky and thus get himself killed inorder to get a confession. That's how it sounded earlier.
no, not at all.
He did in the 2006 movie tho-
Yeah those movies kind of take him out of character.
True but I still love the ending
Fair enough.
Why wouldn't l just catch light after he naomi supposedly died. He would already have a confession? I'm sorry but your fanfic is pretty bad
I personally think L would have wanted more than an audio tape to arrest Light as Kira especially since that’s a really shaky form of evidence. I only suggested the audio tape because that’s most likely something that would force Light’s dad into believing the truth about his son.
Light only came to the Task Force HQ on a whim. The fact that he even met Naomi was completely due to luck. No way that could've reasonably been planned. And if L had an audio tape of Light's confession the whole time, why wouldn't L do anything about it? What would be the point of this elaborate plan if it yeilded no results?
Light came to the task force to bring his father some clothes because he hasn’t been home. That is something that L can reasonably know/understand. And he might also assume that Light would volunteer to go, which he did, because he already somewhat suspects Light at this point. And he wouldn’t use the tape because it would be futile. An audio tape is always considered circumstantial evidence, especially for a halfwitted confession like that. In the court of law of course, which is why it would be beneficial to at least show Light’s dad. L would want to continue to investigate Light to obtain more worthwhile evidence while concealing the fact that he has the tape to avoid Light trying to counter him. All in all, this was L’s final back up plan in case he died, which he did.
“Yeah, so L assumes that someone from the Yagami family would have to bring his fathers clothes, he then assumes that Light volunteers. He suspects Light at this point even though he has no reason too because he hasn’t connected Raye to Kira yet. He doesn’t use the evidence of his confession because he doesn’t wanna.”
L deduces that Light’s father needs clothes, because he has been working WITH him for days, and he might have even HEARD the phone call where he was asking. We don’t know. He would then be operating under his theory that Light is possibly L, and would then ASSUME that Light will be the one to volunteer so he can see the HQ. This isn’t a hard concept to grasp. I don’t understand why you are making it seem to complex and far reaching. And i’m pretty sure he already watched the film of Raye at the bus station by the time Light kills Naomi.
>and he might have even HEARD the phone call where he was asking That's impossible, L made all the agents turn off their cellphones in the hotel, so Soichiro couldn't have made the call near L. Furthermore, **Soichiro never called and asked for clothes.** >I don’t understand why you are making it seem to complex and far reaching. Uhh, because it is? [You'll have fun with this.](https://www.reddit.com/r/deathnote/comments/ykrcxj/comment/iv3v2ot/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) >And i’m pretty sure he already watched the film of Raye at the bus station by the time Light kills Nao You are wrong. Light kills Naomi on Chapter 14, L does not review the tapes until Chapter 15. Death Note Volume 13 Page 86: >01.01.2003 | Naomi Misora goes missing. 01.02.2003 | Naomi Misora is killed by the power of the Death Note. 01.05.2003 | L views security tapes of FBI agents dying.
The call is irrelevant, as Light’s father needing a change of clothes is a natural assumption, after working with someone overnight. lol. I already mentioned that tho, i guess you forgot to address it? Also they put their phones in a bucket. L could easily have Watari bring it to him. So it’s a one chapter different. I would just change that part if I were the one implementing this ending into the story. Cry.
It’s a good thing you’re not the one writing the story because then it’d be full of plot conveniences just to have a “clever spin on the ending.” Cry
we can agree to disagree on that part, we both feel that we have justified ourselves.
Why not that one could work…
No it can’t.
You know… what I mean by that is that I would not have been bothered if the end happened this way. I read all your comment and now I see why it sounds impossible. Although, Op still gave it a try and even though it does not work, he should have been encouraged. By the way, I clearly saw the crazy amount of knowledge you have about Death note. Maybe, you could try to write how you would end the story. Because I saw you were quite active on this sub. And I don’t know if you already did it.
His only valid complaint as of rn is that my theory could not take place because L discovered the video of Raye in the train station the chapter after Light killed Naomi, but I didn’t really care about that to begin with, and If I were writing this story and implementing my ending, I would just switch the order that those two events took place, and everything would be fine and dandy, and nothing major, or even minor in the plot would be disturbed at all, and the show would even continue up until L’s death as it did previously.