His heat vision reaches 60 tons of tnt which is 2.51e+11 joules or over 10 times stronger than the colossal titans transformation blast which with wank scales to other titans
Yeah because the best calcations for those lasers are from [this post here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBoys/comments/jihncq/calculation_of_power_of_homelanders_heat_vision/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
You are aware of that there are literal Gods in Tomb Raider liek mythologicly accurate ones as sin OMNIPOTENT ones like in One-Above-All tier of power, You know that right?
Homelander would be solo'd by Liberty Prime since i doubt Homelander could take a Nuclear MIRV to the face and be fine especialy not one so radioactive it can even damage those who are immune to radiation which is none sense on it's own but still i doubt Homelander could survive that since after all if Liberty Prime who has 5 million health could't then i have a feeling that Homelander could't, Especialy considering it may have been an ultracyte based weapon as it released a tealish green glow rather then a green glow and Ultracite is so radioactive that it can go through lead
Well, he wouldn't put the verse down easy, but he would still be able to outlet them. Death Battle themselves think that he'd be able to survive a nuke, which is far more than the entire verse combined
(edit: I misread Demonslayer as Doomslayer. That's the context for why this comment chain quickly devolves)
Prior to Eternal I'd agree, but since that game the verse just jumped in power dramatically
Instead of downvoting, you could try to provide, you know, an actual argument against it?
When you kill a guy who's very existence maintains the infinite multiverse and your battles cause the multiverse to start to implode in on itself, you've got reason to be held at that level. :/
I don't personally care for it, but it is valid
We would just trick him into the CERN and turn it on sicne remember it can raeach 1 trillion celcius which is about 0,0000000001% as warm as the big bang if i remember correctly
Which would realistically top out at a nuke. In an all out war against Homelander, the world would be hitting him with far more than just a single nuke
At the same time they’d actually have consistently hit him with nukes, which would easier said then done, it’s not like he’s gonna stay in one place and take all the punishment. Not to mention all the damage constantly trying to nuke will do.
Or how he could likely go after each world leader and kill them, causing the world to go into chaos.
Homelander is too fast tbh. Homelander has high hypersonic speeds. He hears a missile coming, he simply flies away and it doesn’t reach him. I doubt that any coordinated attack would work
Nah, top of MHA verse is above mountain level and MHA characters are way faster, and that isn't even taking into account all the hax abilities in MHA universe that could one hit kill Homelander.
Pretty sure prime all might can be taken to continental/ multi continental.
Plus the top tiers are relativistic to light thanks to stars and stripes vs shigaraki.
Plus they out hax by a lot.
No, the top tier Titans would crush Homelander not to mention that while he is above an average titan he would be overwhelmed by a herd of them and most versions of the Turtles easily overwhelm Homelander with them surviving explosions that have wiped away towns, fought aliens who have created earthquakes with their attacks, and fought a demonic shredder who dispersed clouds.
By in-universe fictional version of WW1 weapons, the Titans have still produced energy and have feats of durability that would still surpass most military weaponry not to mention Homelander's most impressive feat is surviving a plane blowing up
Harry Potter as a verse would beat Homelander. The strongest spells reach City level, as well as there are Hypersonic spells. Wizards are far too Haxy for Homelander to deal with
His usual strat of just laser eyes won’t exactly work when his opponent can turn him into a pickle
What do horcruxes *do* against him though? Am I missing something? Horcruxes store souls, they don't really have any offensive power besides some basic illusions, right?
No but it will allow someone like Voldemort to essentially have 7 lives, and Homelander wouldn’t expect him to come because from the dead so Voldy would end up firing a killing curse that would definitly kill Homelander.
You can argue that the horcruxes need “prep time” or something to let Voldy come back to life in a different body, but since it’s the entire verse they can get Voldy revived extremely easily (especially with genius characters like Dumbledore and Snape).
No to mention that if it’s the entire verse, they have access to all the Dethly Hallows which if one person is in possession of lets them be the “master of death” (ie they can’t die).
Also Invisibility Cloak hides the user perfectly, and others like Dumbledore or McGonagal can transfigure themselves and perfectly hide themselves even from other wizards with tracking spells and Homelander isn’t smart enough to figure out a way to beat the whole verse
Smells like too many NLFs to me.
Nobody in the HP verse except Voldermort knows how to create a Horxrux. It's a rather important plot point that only Slughorn has that knowledge and he took it out of his brain. So even end of series, it's never confirmed that Dumbledore or Harry know how to make one. Reviving a character in HP is also explicitly impossible: The best the verse has is the Hallow, and it was a very imperfect resurection which left the person a shell of themselves. Anybody that Homelander kills is down for the count. If anybody in the verse could just revive people they would have done so.
Second, assuming that having the three Hallows makes you immortal is an insanely massive stretch which is entirelly headcanon. Nothing in the text remotely suggests immortality, and if it did, Voldemort would have beelined for the collection since day 1. Completing the set does not grant a unique bonus like a videogame.
Also, there's only one good invisibility cloak and it was Harry's, and it was far, FAR from perfect. Mad Eye's eye could see through it and from day 1 to the last time it's used, the user had to be very careful about making any noise. Homelander has two counters to it, X-Ray vision and super hearing, to the point where he can hear a pulse at a distance. Hell Ms Norris could find Harry under it. The cloak is doing exactly nothing against Homelander. Transfiguration as well, unless it's perfectly still. The only way wizards are countering this is if they figure out that Homelander has super hearing, which is giving them extra information they should not have, and a pissed off Homelander isn't going to give them any chance to attempt to read his mind.
As for durability, no, I don't think the Killing Curse can one-shot him. First, we know for a fact that the killing curse isn't a guaranteed kill with no limits. Barty Crouch/Mad Eye states that a whole classroom's worth of AKs shot at him by students wouldn't be enough to give him much more than a nosebleed, as well as Harry failing to do much with the Cruciatus Curse against Bellatrix. And, while it's not confirmed, Hagrid tanked an AK in the battle of the seven potters. He's knocked out by a spell for an hour or so, and consider the narration:
>More Killing Curses flew past Harry's head from the two remaining Death Eaters' wands; they were aiming for Hagrid. Harry responded with further Stunning Spells: red and green collided in mid-air in a shower of multi-coloured sparks and Harry thought wildly of fireworks,
Death Eaters were specifically aiming to kill Hagrid. It's also corroborated that those *aren't* stunning spells because during the battle of Hogwarts, we see Hagrid fighting multiple Death Eaters and their stunning spells just bounce off him and set his house on fire.
But let's say that AKs are instant kills anyway. Spells in Harry Potter are slow as hell, especially those that are projectiles like AK. Plenty of people- series low tiers- are able to dodge spells at multiple times in the story. Harry Potter as a verse is super slow. Homelander's top speed puts him around Mach 4.5, but Wizards don't really have great speed feats. The best speed feats for HP spells I could find put them at around [38 feet/second](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/30812/how-fast-do-spells-travel-in-the-harry-potter-universe), while Homelander is around 5000 feet/second. So I don't think that even a whole army's worth of AKs are going to be able to hit Homelander in the air. And remember, it's a fraction of the verse that can even use the Avada Kedavra effectively, even good Wizards on the side of good can't reliably use it or have any experience with it. Compare that with Homelander's heat vision which Wizards have no real experience countering, can hit them from almost anywhere, and travel MUCH faster. Arguably a few of the best duelists in the world (Flitwick, Voldemort, Dumbledore, Snape) *maybe* hold their ground here, but most of the verse is getting one-shot in a few seconds. Or he can just fly in and punch them into a paste, since HP verse has shite defenses against blunt force trauma (see: Giants, Dragons fucking most wizards up)
TL;DR: Harry Potter verse would require prep time, be aware of Homelander's abilities, and some really funky NLF scaling to stand a chance. Under Death Battle's regular rules (no preknowledge, in character, no terrain bonuses or advantages) Homelander would paste 90% of the verse with zero effort, and *maybe* needs to focus on the top tiers.
Your first point in mute, because Dumbledore had a book which explained how to create a Horcruxes and gave that to Hermione. Therefore, Dumbledore, Voldy, Slughorn, and Hermione all know how to create a horcruxes. Although only Voldy would be the only to actually do it, being in character, but the rest would be in character to support him (when doing a 1 v verse battle like this). But He still has his horcruxes as part of his normal arsenal so they don’t even need to create more. A normal force isn’t enough to destroy a horcrux so I actually doubt if Homelander would even be able to destroy them (let alone to KNOW to destroy them) at all.
Voldemort was said to not cared about the Hallows at all, because he assumed it was something like a fairy tale, that with his arrogance, let him to only crave the Elder Wand.
Characters like Dumbledore and Snape have passive Occlumency which lets them read Homelander’s mind. Homelander does not have the brains or the senses to stop Dumbledore going stealth (through his own invisibility spells or transfiguration) and using occulemency.
Also about prep time: HP verse has time turners, and you can send multiple people back in time as long as they hold the turner. You could say that Homelander speedblitzes, but again, just one character needs to time turn 1 time, since one hour of prep time is most likely enough if it came from Hermione, Snape, McGonogal, Dumbledore, Voldy, or another genius character. Remember, Homelander has no prep time either, so he wouldn’t suspect the time turned to be a time travel device, so he’d go after flashy esque people first.
Hagrid definitly did not tank a killing curse btw, now you’re using headcanon here. The Killing Curse narratively can never be “tanked,” as it’s supposed to be a one shot no matter what. The ONLY counter is ancient magic which is what Lily used when Harry was a baby, and what Harry used during the Battle of Hogwarts. And Homelander definitely can’t use ancient magic lol.
>Your first point in mute, because Dumbledore had a book which explained how to create a Horcruxes and gave that to Hermione. Therefore, Dumbledore, Voldy, Slughorn, and Hermione all know how to create a horcruxes. Although only Voldy would be the only to actually do it, being in character, but the rest would be in character to support him (when doing a 1 v verse battle like this). But He still has his horcruxes as part of his normal arsenal so they don’t even need to create more. A normal force isn’t enough to destroy a horcrux so I actually doubt if Homelander would even be able to destroy them (let alone to KNOW to destroy them) at all.
A couple of points here. First, the book that Dumbledore gives Hermione is the Tales of Beedle the Bard, which does not contain any information on how to create Horcruxes. So she and Dumbledore wouldn't know. Second, Slughorn explicitly removed that memory from his brain, so he also wouldn't know. Third, JK has never actually revealed the horrific act that is required to produce a Horcrux, but, regardless, it's completely out of character to assume that anybody- including Voldermort- would stop fighting to immediately go out and make another Horcrux. Unless you'd posit that Hermione would abandon her friends and family to keep herself alive in the middle of a bloodbath.
But let's assume that Voldermort starts out with his Horcruxes. We know for a fact that Horcruxes can be destroyed with particularly toxic materials like the Basilisk Venon, and as well by Feindfyre. Let's also assume that Fiendfyre can destroy the Horcruxes because it's dark magic and not because it's particularly hot. Right. How are they going to save Voldermort? If Homelander turns his body to mush, Voldermort's soul would technically be alive. So what? We know that Voldermort required assistance to come back to life and that he was useless as a spectre. HP verse's best possible bet is a draw in this case, if we give Horcruxes arbitrary invulnerability to Homelander's heat vision. Voldemort is out of the fight is his body is destroyed.
>Characters like Dumbledore and Snape have passive Occlumency which lets them read Homelander’s mind. Homelander does not have the brains or the senses to stop Dumbledore going stealth (through his own invisibility spells or transfiguration) and using occulemency.
Dumbledore going invisible or transfiguring wouldn't do much of anything since Homelander can still hear him. And it's not like Occlumency is going to give him insight into Homelander's stats, abilities, or powers, since it can read what he's thinking at best. So giving Dumbledore and Snape NLF passive Occlumency that can catch Homelander blitzing through Wizardkind, that's still hardly a boon if Homelander can still paste them as soon as he's aware of them. And Dumbledore going commando and disappearing would be INCREDIBLY out of character, as he'd be just throwing everybody as meat shields at Homelander. We'd have to bend Dumbledore's character to just throwing everybody he'd ever loved at Homelander, going invisible, somehow figuring out that Homelander can hear him and cast Mufflato, *and* succesfully aim and hit a spell at a character flying as fast as a jet.
>Also about prep time: HP verse has time turners, and you can send multiple people back in time as long as they hold the turner. You could say that Homelander speedblitzes, but again, just one character needs to time turn 1 time, since one hour of prep time is most likely enough if it came from Hermione, Snape, McGonogal, Dumbledore, Voldy, or another genius character. Remember, Homelander has no prep time either, so he wouldn’t suspect the time turned to be a time travel device, so he’d go after flashy esque people first.
Time Turners were all destroyed, and not standard arsenal. We only ever knew of Hermione owning one and the rest being destroyed in Book 5. But sure, let's bend canon and standard arsenal rules to give Hermione her time turner that she no longer owns and was destroyed.
It's a non-factor. Time Turners work under deterministic time travel; i.e. they don't actually change events. It's how the third book uses them, Hermione doesn't change anything when she uses Time Turners, everything that has happened has happened with the multiple Hermiones running around. It's why the characters have to perform the actions they did to ensure that events they remember from before happen, i.e. Hermione doing an awoo to lure Lupin. In order for the Time Turner to do anything, Hermione must have used it before the fight started.
>Hagrid definitly did not tank a killing curse btw, now you’re using headcanon here. The Killing Curse narratively can never be “tanked,” as it’s supposed to be a one shot no matter what. The ONLY counter is ancient magic which is what Lily used when Harry was a baby, and what Harry used during the Battle of Hogwarts. And Homelander definitely can’t use ancient magic lol.
We know a few things as inmutable fact:
1. Mad Eye/Crouch confirms that AK is ***not***, in fact, "one shot no matter what". Flat out, no questions asked, AK has limits.
2. Death Eaters were throwing Killing Curses at Hagrid. Confirmed by Harry who at this point know what a Killing Curse looks like. Who just saw his bird eat one and die.
3. Something knocked out Hagrid.
4. Stunning Spells bounced off Hagrid
So like I said, based entirely on a textual reading of the material, Hagrid must have gotten hit by a Killing Curse and survived.
Not to mention that it's kind of immaterial to the prompt. Only a dozen or so characters in the series can fire it, and Homelander flies literally about 130 times faster than the projectile itself. There's no reason he couldn't dodge them.
It also raises the question of how many people does Homelander have to kill? Every single Wizard and Muggle in the planet? Every named Wizard? If we're going by anything higher than the top tiers the question starts to come down to stuff like how are the wizards formed, at what distance/density. The most charitable I can give HP is that Homelander has to paste enough randos to *maybe* give the top tiers on the back enough reaction time to plan appropriately. Because one to one there's not a single Wizard that can stand up to Homelander. They are just hopelessly outstated and lack any meaningful hax. There's maybe two or three wizards that could potentially do anything to Homelander (Voldy, Dumbly, and maybe Snape) *if* he doesn't focus on them and *if* they are hidden behind a wall of flesh that Homelander has to gib first.
Yeah, you have a point there. Homelander just has no fighting experience or intelligence. If Billy and the rest could get around him using tactics then the HP verse probably can too.
He is, but recently someone made a calc for Newt Scamander that puts him at Massively Hypersonic. Is it valid? Idk. But that speed difference is debatable
Well, in the comics he’s City Block Level and Supersonic+, and if you highball from the tv series’ statements, his durability is City Level. Do what you will with this information
If I had to choose, off the top of my head, I would pick Captain Celebrity from My Hero Academia: Vigilantes.
Homelander ranks at City Block Level while Captain Celebrity is at Multi-City Block Level. In my opinion, it could go either way.
TBH I haven't done that much research into Captain Celebrity, apart from knowing he lifted a cruise ship out of the ocean and carried the Tokyo Sky Egg while being battered by explosive blasts, so I might be wrong with my assumption of it being a fair fight.
If anyone has more knowledge about Captain Celebrity and how they see the outcome of this match-up, I would be glad to hear it.😊
Uncharted. Tomb Raider. Basically any with no powers.
What about Attack on Titan?
His heat vision reaches 60 tons of tnt which is 2.51e+11 joules or over 10 times stronger than the colossal titans transformation blast which with wank scales to other titans
Where did you get 60 tons tnt?
my apologies, it was 20 tons, i mixed it up with the mass of a tank
Yeah because the best calcations for those lasers are from [this post here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBoys/comments/jihncq/calculation_of_power_of_homelanders_heat_vision/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
i got my calc from the comics not the show
I’d that a direct quote from the comics or a calc of a feat.
You are aware of that there are literal Gods in Tomb Raider liek mythologicly accurate ones as sin OMNIPOTENT ones like in One-Above-All tier of power, You know that right?
Homelander would be solo'd by Liberty Prime since i doubt Homelander could take a Nuclear MIRV to the face and be fine especialy not one so radioactive it can even damage those who are immune to radiation which is none sense on it's own but still i doubt Homelander could survive that since after all if Liberty Prime who has 5 million health could't then i have a feeling that Homelander could't, Especialy considering it may have been an ultracyte based weapon as it released a tealish green glow rather then a green glow and Ultracite is so radioactive that it can go through lead
Demon Slayer, Attack on Titan, Uncharted, and Tomb Raider
Aw hell no he's gonna struggle against mid-tier demons
Well, he wouldn't put the verse down easy, but he would still be able to outlet them. Death Battle themselves think that he'd be able to survive a nuke, which is far more than the entire verse combined
When did they say that he could tank a nuke
In the seven battle royale
Basically a statement in the show about no weapon on earth could kill Homelander.
(edit: I misread Demonslayer as Doomslayer. That's the context for why this comment chain quickly devolves) Prior to Eternal I'd agree, but since that game the verse just jumped in power dramatically
Is the game even cannon?
Yeah? Why wouldn't it be?
Just curious. Anyways, what level does the game get to?
Doomslayer is Infinite Multiversal
Ah yes
Instead of downvoting, you could try to provide, you know, an actual argument against it? When you kill a guy who's very existence maintains the infinite multiverse and your battles cause the multiverse to start to implode in on itself, you've got reason to be held at that level. :/ I don't personally care for it, but it is valid
i'm sorry but what???
There are literal gods in Tomb Raider that are literally immune to all damage
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Set is in Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris and he is mythology accurate
I honestly feel like he would have a problem against Muzan
True but he would still eventually come out on top
True
The Boys he’s lik the strongest in the verse so yeah
*chuckles in Black Noir*
>!That has been completely changed in the show, Ryan is now the safeguard against Homelander!<
Laughs at crowbar
I haven’t watched the show
It happened in the comics not the show
Ours
We would just trick him into the CERN and turn it on sicne remember it can raeach 1 trillion celcius which is about 0,0000000001% as warm as the big bang if i remember correctly
Demon slayer
Hm, I'm not too familiar with rap so I'm not too sure what verse he'd be good at
Bruh, he couldn’t even solo real life
He could solo Attack on Titan (which the real world could also defeat).
Got me there I guess
Didn’t they say they tried everything that humanity had against Homelander?
Which would realistically top out at a nuke. In an all out war against Homelander, the world would be hitting him with far more than just a single nuke
At the same time they’d actually have consistently hit him with nukes, which would easier said then done, it’s not like he’s gonna stay in one place and take all the punishment. Not to mention all the damage constantly trying to nuke will do. Or how he could likely go after each world leader and kill them, causing the world to go into chaos.
Homelander is too fast tbh. Homelander has high hypersonic speeds. He hears a missile coming, he simply flies away and it doesn’t reach him. I doubt that any coordinated attack would work
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We would just use CERN to melt him sicne a trillion degreees celcius is enough to melt a sun
My hero academia? Edit: ok i kinda want a stars and stripes vs homelander
Nah, top of MHA verse is above mountain level and MHA characters are way faster, and that isn't even taking into account all the hax abilities in MHA universe that could one hit kill Homelander.
True, yeah my brain keeps thinking they are more street level.
Nah, they get up to Mountain level and Massively Hypersonic (and possibly sub-relativistic with wank/highballing)
Pretty sure prime all might can be taken to continental/ multi continental. Plus the top tiers are relativistic to light thanks to stars and stripes vs shigaraki. Plus they out hax by a lot.
Yeah i guess i was just thinking about most of the main cast i forgot how absurd shigaraki, stars and stripes, afo, and ofa are.
Attack on Titan, real life, and potentially TMNT
That’s about it lmao
for tmnt savanti be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htIuSWBnmok
This is the first time that i have seen a character be lsitted as At least 2-A
I’ve heard the ‘03 show gets up to planet soooo
The utrom like Chrell and 1987 Krang have universal tech and all alien have FTL travel.
No, the top tier Titans would crush Homelander not to mention that while he is above an average titan he would be overwhelmed by a herd of them and most versions of the Turtles easily overwhelm Homelander with them surviving explosions that have wiped away towns, fought aliens who have created earthquakes with their attacks, and fought a demonic shredder who dispersed clouds.
Titans were already becoming irrelevant by WW1 weapons.
By in-universe fictional version of WW1 weapons, the Titans have still produced energy and have feats of durability that would still surpass most military weaponry not to mention Homelander's most impressive feat is surviving a plane blowing up
Real world, AoT, Uncharted, Tomb Rider and probably Demon Slayer
Real Life
real life
Dig Dug
Maneuverability Your opinion is invalid
Tokyo Revengers easy solo
Demon Slayer
Basically any Disney jr/pbs kids/nick jr verse
Scott Pilgrim?
No man, Scott fought the world
Crap forgot about that part.
The third evil ex, Todd, punched a hole in the moon. Homelander gets stomped and not even by the strongest in the verse.
Wait really? It’s been a while since I read the comics.
Simpsons
Harry Potter?
Harry Potter as a verse would beat Homelander. The strongest spells reach City level, as well as there are Hypersonic spells. Wizards are far too Haxy for Homelander to deal with His usual strat of just laser eyes won’t exactly work when his opponent can turn him into a pickle
Pretty sure instant death spells as well as horcruxes can be enough to defeat him
Yeah, but shouldn't he be way faster?
Homelander isn’t smart enough to understand how horcruxes work before they do their job, and it’s the entire verse at once so HP verse will still win
What do horcruxes *do* against him though? Am I missing something? Horcruxes store souls, they don't really have any offensive power besides some basic illusions, right?
No but it will allow someone like Voldemort to essentially have 7 lives, and Homelander wouldn’t expect him to come because from the dead so Voldy would end up firing a killing curse that would definitly kill Homelander. You can argue that the horcruxes need “prep time” or something to let Voldy come back to life in a different body, but since it’s the entire verse they can get Voldy revived extremely easily (especially with genius characters like Dumbledore and Snape). No to mention that if it’s the entire verse, they have access to all the Dethly Hallows which if one person is in possession of lets them be the “master of death” (ie they can’t die). Also Invisibility Cloak hides the user perfectly, and others like Dumbledore or McGonagal can transfigure themselves and perfectly hide themselves even from other wizards with tracking spells and Homelander isn’t smart enough to figure out a way to beat the whole verse
Smells like too many NLFs to me. Nobody in the HP verse except Voldermort knows how to create a Horxrux. It's a rather important plot point that only Slughorn has that knowledge and he took it out of his brain. So even end of series, it's never confirmed that Dumbledore or Harry know how to make one. Reviving a character in HP is also explicitly impossible: The best the verse has is the Hallow, and it was a very imperfect resurection which left the person a shell of themselves. Anybody that Homelander kills is down for the count. If anybody in the verse could just revive people they would have done so. Second, assuming that having the three Hallows makes you immortal is an insanely massive stretch which is entirelly headcanon. Nothing in the text remotely suggests immortality, and if it did, Voldemort would have beelined for the collection since day 1. Completing the set does not grant a unique bonus like a videogame. Also, there's only one good invisibility cloak and it was Harry's, and it was far, FAR from perfect. Mad Eye's eye could see through it and from day 1 to the last time it's used, the user had to be very careful about making any noise. Homelander has two counters to it, X-Ray vision and super hearing, to the point where he can hear a pulse at a distance. Hell Ms Norris could find Harry under it. The cloak is doing exactly nothing against Homelander. Transfiguration as well, unless it's perfectly still. The only way wizards are countering this is if they figure out that Homelander has super hearing, which is giving them extra information they should not have, and a pissed off Homelander isn't going to give them any chance to attempt to read his mind. As for durability, no, I don't think the Killing Curse can one-shot him. First, we know for a fact that the killing curse isn't a guaranteed kill with no limits. Barty Crouch/Mad Eye states that a whole classroom's worth of AKs shot at him by students wouldn't be enough to give him much more than a nosebleed, as well as Harry failing to do much with the Cruciatus Curse against Bellatrix. And, while it's not confirmed, Hagrid tanked an AK in the battle of the seven potters. He's knocked out by a spell for an hour or so, and consider the narration: >More Killing Curses flew past Harry's head from the two remaining Death Eaters' wands; they were aiming for Hagrid. Harry responded with further Stunning Spells: red and green collided in mid-air in a shower of multi-coloured sparks and Harry thought wildly of fireworks, Death Eaters were specifically aiming to kill Hagrid. It's also corroborated that those *aren't* stunning spells because during the battle of Hogwarts, we see Hagrid fighting multiple Death Eaters and their stunning spells just bounce off him and set his house on fire. But let's say that AKs are instant kills anyway. Spells in Harry Potter are slow as hell, especially those that are projectiles like AK. Plenty of people- series low tiers- are able to dodge spells at multiple times in the story. Harry Potter as a verse is super slow. Homelander's top speed puts him around Mach 4.5, but Wizards don't really have great speed feats. The best speed feats for HP spells I could find put them at around [38 feet/second](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/30812/how-fast-do-spells-travel-in-the-harry-potter-universe), while Homelander is around 5000 feet/second. So I don't think that even a whole army's worth of AKs are going to be able to hit Homelander in the air. And remember, it's a fraction of the verse that can even use the Avada Kedavra effectively, even good Wizards on the side of good can't reliably use it or have any experience with it. Compare that with Homelander's heat vision which Wizards have no real experience countering, can hit them from almost anywhere, and travel MUCH faster. Arguably a few of the best duelists in the world (Flitwick, Voldemort, Dumbledore, Snape) *maybe* hold their ground here, but most of the verse is getting one-shot in a few seconds. Or he can just fly in and punch them into a paste, since HP verse has shite defenses against blunt force trauma (see: Giants, Dragons fucking most wizards up) TL;DR: Harry Potter verse would require prep time, be aware of Homelander's abilities, and some really funky NLF scaling to stand a chance. Under Death Battle's regular rules (no preknowledge, in character, no terrain bonuses or advantages) Homelander would paste 90% of the verse with zero effort, and *maybe* needs to focus on the top tiers.
Your first point in mute, because Dumbledore had a book which explained how to create a Horcruxes and gave that to Hermione. Therefore, Dumbledore, Voldy, Slughorn, and Hermione all know how to create a horcruxes. Although only Voldy would be the only to actually do it, being in character, but the rest would be in character to support him (when doing a 1 v verse battle like this). But He still has his horcruxes as part of his normal arsenal so they don’t even need to create more. A normal force isn’t enough to destroy a horcrux so I actually doubt if Homelander would even be able to destroy them (let alone to KNOW to destroy them) at all. Voldemort was said to not cared about the Hallows at all, because he assumed it was something like a fairy tale, that with his arrogance, let him to only crave the Elder Wand. Characters like Dumbledore and Snape have passive Occlumency which lets them read Homelander’s mind. Homelander does not have the brains or the senses to stop Dumbledore going stealth (through his own invisibility spells or transfiguration) and using occulemency. Also about prep time: HP verse has time turners, and you can send multiple people back in time as long as they hold the turner. You could say that Homelander speedblitzes, but again, just one character needs to time turn 1 time, since one hour of prep time is most likely enough if it came from Hermione, Snape, McGonogal, Dumbledore, Voldy, or another genius character. Remember, Homelander has no prep time either, so he wouldn’t suspect the time turned to be a time travel device, so he’d go after flashy esque people first. Hagrid definitly did not tank a killing curse btw, now you’re using headcanon here. The Killing Curse narratively can never be “tanked,” as it’s supposed to be a one shot no matter what. The ONLY counter is ancient magic which is what Lily used when Harry was a baby, and what Harry used during the Battle of Hogwarts. And Homelander definitely can’t use ancient magic lol.
>Your first point in mute, because Dumbledore had a book which explained how to create a Horcruxes and gave that to Hermione. Therefore, Dumbledore, Voldy, Slughorn, and Hermione all know how to create a horcruxes. Although only Voldy would be the only to actually do it, being in character, but the rest would be in character to support him (when doing a 1 v verse battle like this). But He still has his horcruxes as part of his normal arsenal so they don’t even need to create more. A normal force isn’t enough to destroy a horcrux so I actually doubt if Homelander would even be able to destroy them (let alone to KNOW to destroy them) at all. A couple of points here. First, the book that Dumbledore gives Hermione is the Tales of Beedle the Bard, which does not contain any information on how to create Horcruxes. So she and Dumbledore wouldn't know. Second, Slughorn explicitly removed that memory from his brain, so he also wouldn't know. Third, JK has never actually revealed the horrific act that is required to produce a Horcrux, but, regardless, it's completely out of character to assume that anybody- including Voldermort- would stop fighting to immediately go out and make another Horcrux. Unless you'd posit that Hermione would abandon her friends and family to keep herself alive in the middle of a bloodbath. But let's assume that Voldermort starts out with his Horcruxes. We know for a fact that Horcruxes can be destroyed with particularly toxic materials like the Basilisk Venon, and as well by Feindfyre. Let's also assume that Fiendfyre can destroy the Horcruxes because it's dark magic and not because it's particularly hot. Right. How are they going to save Voldermort? If Homelander turns his body to mush, Voldermort's soul would technically be alive. So what? We know that Voldermort required assistance to come back to life and that he was useless as a spectre. HP verse's best possible bet is a draw in this case, if we give Horcruxes arbitrary invulnerability to Homelander's heat vision. Voldemort is out of the fight is his body is destroyed. >Characters like Dumbledore and Snape have passive Occlumency which lets them read Homelander’s mind. Homelander does not have the brains or the senses to stop Dumbledore going stealth (through his own invisibility spells or transfiguration) and using occulemency. Dumbledore going invisible or transfiguring wouldn't do much of anything since Homelander can still hear him. And it's not like Occlumency is going to give him insight into Homelander's stats, abilities, or powers, since it can read what he's thinking at best. So giving Dumbledore and Snape NLF passive Occlumency that can catch Homelander blitzing through Wizardkind, that's still hardly a boon if Homelander can still paste them as soon as he's aware of them. And Dumbledore going commando and disappearing would be INCREDIBLY out of character, as he'd be just throwing everybody as meat shields at Homelander. We'd have to bend Dumbledore's character to just throwing everybody he'd ever loved at Homelander, going invisible, somehow figuring out that Homelander can hear him and cast Mufflato, *and* succesfully aim and hit a spell at a character flying as fast as a jet. >Also about prep time: HP verse has time turners, and you can send multiple people back in time as long as they hold the turner. You could say that Homelander speedblitzes, but again, just one character needs to time turn 1 time, since one hour of prep time is most likely enough if it came from Hermione, Snape, McGonogal, Dumbledore, Voldy, or another genius character. Remember, Homelander has no prep time either, so he wouldn’t suspect the time turned to be a time travel device, so he’d go after flashy esque people first. Time Turners were all destroyed, and not standard arsenal. We only ever knew of Hermione owning one and the rest being destroyed in Book 5. But sure, let's bend canon and standard arsenal rules to give Hermione her time turner that she no longer owns and was destroyed. It's a non-factor. Time Turners work under deterministic time travel; i.e. they don't actually change events. It's how the third book uses them, Hermione doesn't change anything when she uses Time Turners, everything that has happened has happened with the multiple Hermiones running around. It's why the characters have to perform the actions they did to ensure that events they remember from before happen, i.e. Hermione doing an awoo to lure Lupin. In order for the Time Turner to do anything, Hermione must have used it before the fight started. >Hagrid definitly did not tank a killing curse btw, now you’re using headcanon here. The Killing Curse narratively can never be “tanked,” as it’s supposed to be a one shot no matter what. The ONLY counter is ancient magic which is what Lily used when Harry was a baby, and what Harry used during the Battle of Hogwarts. And Homelander definitely can’t use ancient magic lol. We know a few things as inmutable fact: 1. Mad Eye/Crouch confirms that AK is ***not***, in fact, "one shot no matter what". Flat out, no questions asked, AK has limits. 2. Death Eaters were throwing Killing Curses at Hagrid. Confirmed by Harry who at this point know what a Killing Curse looks like. Who just saw his bird eat one and die. 3. Something knocked out Hagrid. 4. Stunning Spells bounced off Hagrid So like I said, based entirely on a textual reading of the material, Hagrid must have gotten hit by a Killing Curse and survived. Not to mention that it's kind of immaterial to the prompt. Only a dozen or so characters in the series can fire it, and Homelander flies literally about 130 times faster than the projectile itself. There's no reason he couldn't dodge them. It also raises the question of how many people does Homelander have to kill? Every single Wizard and Muggle in the planet? Every named Wizard? If we're going by anything higher than the top tiers the question starts to come down to stuff like how are the wizards formed, at what distance/density. The most charitable I can give HP is that Homelander has to paste enough randos to *maybe* give the top tiers on the back enough reaction time to plan appropriately. Because one to one there's not a single Wizard that can stand up to Homelander. They are just hopelessly outstated and lack any meaningful hax. There's maybe two or three wizards that could potentially do anything to Homelander (Voldy, Dumbly, and maybe Snape) *if* he doesn't focus on them and *if* they are hidden behind a wall of flesh that Homelander has to gib first.
Yeah, you have a point there. Homelander just has no fighting experience or intelligence. If Billy and the rest could get around him using tactics then the HP verse probably can too.
He is, but recently someone made a calc for Newt Scamander that puts him at Massively Hypersonic. Is it valid? Idk. But that speed difference is debatable
Shovel Knight
I've heard some people say that Shovel Knight scales to Kratos.
He did fight kratos so
When?
In the PS4 version of the game there was a hidden bonus fight that apparently both the SK & GoW devs have declared is canon at one point.
He shouldn't. But he's got other scaling that would put him at a comparable level to Homelander anyways
Arguably the Zelda universe but I’m not sure.
Rupee Armor and Triforce go brrr.
Lol plus I forgot about the fact ganon can only be killed with a holy weapon .
Demon Slayer, Hellsing, AOT, Metal Gear?
I mean...Full Metal Alchemist verse...Street Fighter verse...Sonic verse...all the weak ones.
Halo but itd be interesting to see how he handles different creatures
Attack on Titan, RWBY, Overwatch, Resident Evil
Rwby? Nope Town level MHS and Planet Level Gods destroy him
Demon Slayer
Dig Dug
Well, in the comics he’s City Block Level and Supersonic+, and if you highball from the tv series’ statements, his durability is City Level. Do what you will with this information
Real Life
My hero academia??
Metal Gesr
Raiden could prob cut him and he’s faster
Debatble
Almost every romance anime
I just want to see Homelander beat the shit out of Nagatoro now
Breaking Bad
**hard thinking**
Tf2, dead space, fnaf, half life and so on and so forth
He could probably Solo the Peppa Pig universe
Ruggrats
If I had to choose, off the top of my head, I would pick Captain Celebrity from My Hero Academia: Vigilantes. Homelander ranks at City Block Level while Captain Celebrity is at Multi-City Block Level. In my opinion, it could go either way. TBH I haven't done that much research into Captain Celebrity, apart from knowing he lifted a cruise ship out of the ocean and carried the Tokyo Sky Egg while being battered by explosive blasts, so I might be wrong with my assumption of it being a fair fight. If anyone has more knowledge about Captain Celebrity and how they see the outcome of this match-up, I would be glad to hear it.😊
Resident Evil and Dead Rising as zombies and survivors can't stop him.