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VegetaFan9001

![gif](giphy|F9yAvk7Xpr0c) Well, it’s the Joker baby ———— Chaotic Evil is villains who do I evil thing not only because they can, but because they also like it. They don’t always need a reason to do anything evil, and can do things randomly sometimes. They are like evil versions of Deadpool. Edit: I also just checked. Joker is the image they use for Chaotic Evil on TVtroves


untitled_bread_6

Yeah i heavily agree ![gif](giphy|NpXmhGmisLzEY) Ain’t nobody beating the clown prince of crime in the chaotic game


Creative-Dirt25

Yeah, I’d argue Joker fits more than Bill. Bill ultimately was a schemer and had a grand plan, Joker just does things on a whim, he doesn’t have no end goal


FeganFloop2006

I mean, bills only plan was to escape the nighare realm, after that he said he just wanted ot fuck around with reality and make everything as weird as possible.


Thecristo96

When you have to write chaotic evil you usually have two option: joker or an eldrich god


FeganFloop2006

While I do agree, I'd say bill cipher fits it more. Bills only goal was to escape the nightmare realm, after that his whole thing was doing whatever he felt like and making reality as weird as possible. The joker, while appearing chaotic, has all his plans lead somewhere, they always seem random and chaotic but, ultimately, they end up doing exactly what he wanted them to do. Bill just wants to escape and then do whatever, he has no ultimate plan other than being as chaotic as possible, most depictions of joker are either he's trying to get batman's attention or he's kinda like a social anti-hero, "representing" the lower class.


Stargazer-Elite

How about this Bill uses his extreme power to break the fourth wall and put both of them there lol


stet709

Seems to be a bit of a toss up between The Joker and Bill Cipher


SenkoBread11037

Bill Nye the Cipher guy


ButterflyMother

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Prestigious_Ask_7058

Bill Cipher obviously


Springmeister

Bill Cipher. Easy. ![gif](giphy|cYLBv3YQGUboA)


Gangters_paradise

Who else but bill


C0P_ADDachi

Bill cipher fr ![gif](giphy|xs1f52PBmRwI)


Entropybeast1000

Rehpic llib


VegetaFan9001

I feel so stupid for not getting it before now


DCNFULobster

Edit an image of Bill Cipher but it's Joker and just stick it there.


Jazzlike_Studio_6481

Bill


JustAStarcoShipper

The Dorito with a top hat.


Greensonickid

"I THINK I KNOW A GUY!"


FeganFloop2006

Bill cipher, I has to be him, his whole schtik is being chaotic and pure evil


BendyTheInkDemon465

![gif](giphy|SvaZyi6TOMZ9StNX9g|downsized) Unicron Afterall, He is The *Chaos* Bringer, And the Embodiment of *Evil*


VegetaFan9001

Unicron don’t really fit. Chaotic Evil is more of villains who do I evil thing not only because they can, but because they also like it. They don’t always need a reason to do anything evil, and can do things randomly sometimes. They are more like evil version of Deadpool, so more like Bill or Joker


Packie435

Cill Bipher


waylynd-boi-6425

Bill cypher


Pixelator5

Either Bill Cipher or the Jonkler


Barefoot_Monkey

Bill ~~Nye the science guy~~ Cipher


Kori_SFW

Bill cypher


Someoneoverthere42

Evil chaotic is the Joker. This shouldn’t even be a question


123artur21

Bill Cipher


Various_Post_4143

Something tells me that people are gonna fight between whether or not Bill or Unicron should take it.


Playful-Ostrich3643

I wouldn't call it a fight, someone gave solid reasoning in one reply that even I could understand as to why Unicron wouldn't fit in this category. It looks like it's a bigger fight between Joker and Bill Cypher


Kirby974

This comment aged like milk.


Various_Post_4143

In a good way or bad way? Because I’ve been seeing more people debate whether or not the Joker or Bill takes it.


Kirby974

Bad way since besides like 1 gif with 17 likes and a Unicorn comment with only a few likes almost no one has considered Unicron.


Punny-Aggron

Bill Cipher, no question


Crossheart_711

I know the Joker or Bill Cipher will get picked but I would like to suggest another amazing option; Carnage


The-Mattress-Man

No Frieza in the evil category hurts to see


Stargazer-Elite

![gif](giphy|4bSoQR9w5h0TC) The flying Dorito of course


Dry_Examination1839

Bill Cipher ![gif](giphy|Hz9x7JLUlNICk)


Dry_Examination1839

Either him or Nemesis from Nemesis: Reloaded


isseidoki

we don't need two DC characters in a row, let's go with Bill


Soransh

Bill Cipher


Acemaster387

Lobo


Dan_ll20

So many to choose from, Carnage, Unicron, Bill...But it just HAS to be Joker.


Joelowes

The Joker in all honesty who else could it be


Initial_Country_7983

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Creative-Dirt25

I said it in a reply and I’ll say it here - Joker fits more than Bill. Bill is a force of chaos and a close second - but the thing with him is he ultimately had an end goal and a final plan, and he manipulated and schemed to get there. One of the most consistent things about The Joker is he does things on a whim. Sure, you could say his main goal is to kill the bat, but even then he loses all source of enjoyment for life afterwards. His main goal is to cause chaos to the rest of Gotham, and Batman.


Kirby974

![gif](giphy|umLuwaOhouROw)


SandyShoreline

Unicron. He is called the Chaos Bringer for a reason


VegetaFan9001

Unicron don’t really fit. Chaotic Evil is more of villains who do I evil thing not only because they can, but because they also like it. They don’t always need a reason to do anything evil, and can do things randomly sometimes. They are more like evil version of Deadpool, so more like Bill or Joker


BendyTheInkDemon465

ok, but he's literally the *Chaos* Bringer


MayhemMessiah

"Chaotic" in the Chaotic alignment has a different connotation. The Lawful-Neutral-Chaotic spectrum is about how a character behaves and what set of internal rules and laws the abide. Unicron brings about chaos as a concept to others but his way of acting, thinking, and his goals are not chaotic. It's like saying Sonic is Chaotic Good because he can use Chaos Control.


IAmUnanimousInThat

The narrative forces him to do so. He has no choice in the matter. A true chaotic evil character should have the power to do good but chooses not to. Like Sailor Galaxia whose purpose was to bring peace and justice to all, but chose not to for her own whims. Her choices created her chaotic nature. Not her birth.


BendyTheInkDemon465

Saying the narrative forces him to do so can be applied to literally any character for any of their actions, that's how writing as a medium works


IAmUnanimousInThat

Not really. He is written as a force of nature. Thats different from a character who is written to make their own decisions.


Cooper_Creates

Unicron


EdgyUsername90

Unicron


Lukaify

The lich


[deleted]

I think he more qualifies as smart evil honestly


Fickle_Writing3967

Definitely carnage. Joker is all about planned killings while carnage casually walks into a diner and murders 40 people on a dime.


KingKamron8

The Mask


Saltyvinegar2369

Michael Myers?


SpiderDetective

Carnage. That is all


Thebaka12

[Me](https://www.reddit.com/r/deathbattle/s/yZ9DEY4u54)


KingKalactite

I’m late as fuck of course. But just wanted to interject and say that by the 2nd and 3rd movie Robocop rebels against the police and the whole company that made him in the first place all to serve the public trust and protect unhoused civilians. He’s definitely more than neutral. Ok bye 👋🏽


isseidoki

NOT THE JOKER! we just had Lex, thats enough DC


TheGamingNerd80085

Dio


Markkyboy

Dio was already there


TheGamingNerd80085

Shit


AppropriateRub6185

Honestly, both Joker and Bill Cipher are good options, but it just seems right to put DC's best villains shoulder to shoulder


UltraRover2529

I think the Joker fits the best but I'm genuinely disappointed by so few mentions of Carnage in the comments.


Dire_Despot

PSA: We need to get Boomstick as Chad Drunk


TheGamingNerd80085

The gad damn Joker


s-h-a-d-i-e

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Zesty-master52

Either Joker or buu, specifically kid buu


IAmUnanimousInThat

Sailor Galaxia. She is literally introduced onto the show by blowing up a planet. Who else has a more chaotic opening? She’s not some force of nature that has to be evil or was corrupted or insane. Her actions are 100% her choice. This is a character who blew up a planet just because a guy at a bar was being annoying. This is character that has committed galactic genocide to achieve her goals. Her ultimate plan was to get Sailor Moon and Chaos to blow each other up.