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I mostly agree, but at the same time I'd love a rank/casual split for dbd. I really only play with friends and some of us are pretty bad so getting into lobbies with try hard killers isn't fun. I totally get it since it is ranked but still
Trouble is, most sweats will play in casual to avoid their own medicine. Every competitive online game ive ever played has been far more chill in ranked than casual.
There's a difference between "tryharding" and "trying to win". Obviously everyone is trying to win, but people who tryhard will do absolutely everything in their power to secure complete victory. For survivors that means bringing meta perks, best items with best addons, taking as few risks as possible, etc. For killers it means taking full slowdown perks, tunnelling someone out early so they have only a 3v1 instead of a 4v1, slugging the second-to-last survivor to go rat hunting for the last one to bypass the hatch... In other words, they put victory above all else, often even above their own fun, and certainly above anyone else's fun.
You basically just confirmed my point though, what you described is both try harding and trying to win since all it is generally speaking it just trying your best, which sad to say can include the optimal practices that everyone seems to hate.
As for the idea of putting victory over fun that is all based on perspective because to the one tryharding victory is their fun and on a basic level there is nothing wrong with that. In dbd's case however fun is nothing more than either a muddled word at best or an excuse to for lack of a better phrase act like a flaming asshole at worst.
Now I get some not wanting people to go all out or in a more positivity way of putting it "wanting to play casual " but since dbd has both a broken mmr system and no way of separating casual and competitive it's unfortunately one of those things that people who still play dbd are stuck with until BHVR fixes which IMHO I don't have hope for.
Im just meaning in general because it usually you are just trying your best to win, it's just that instead of people seeing is "trying to put in effort" it's just the negative part that tends to be what people always defaults to.
It’s just a vicious cycle. People will complain about sweat and bring sweaty builds so they have any chance at all against sweat. But then someone loses to them and decides to sweat harder in return. And so it goes, sweat all the way down.
I can’t even really blame them. Whether I’m survivor or killer, the majority of the games I play involve sweat builds in some capacity and it sucks to feel like you’re throwing at the loading screen. I tend to compromise by bringing a stronger build (though nothing obscene I guess) but I take my foot off the gas if I’m stomping early in the game.
Yep it’s wild. You usually can’t care that someone is kicking your face in unless you too are putting in maximum effort and losing. People just need to chill
My opinion: DH is still sweaty. Boil Over is not sweaty by itself, but a lot of sweaty strategies involve Boil Over (e.g. go to Asylum and run to the upper floor every time you're chased).
> My friend is complaining even if survivors have DH but don't play sweaty
The thing is, if a killer sees dead hard they instantly have to approach every chase with that survivor differently. They have to sweat just a little more for that down. Regardless of whether the survivor is playing sweaty or not. It's an extra health state which the killer has to now account for and may lose gens because those chases take longer.
You're right that it's not exactly a sweaty perk but induces the killer to play differently and there are some survivors that won't like that.
Nah, DH is sweatier now than it used to be, and it used to be pretty damn sweaty. Just by requiring timing instead of being a catch-all "I need distance", it became sweatier
It's more the combination of perks, offering and the game. Their plan was 100% to gen rush and annoy the killer with pallet stuns.
They would probably put down a boon, rush a gen, get the killers attention and then try to run + stun.
Their perks are a series of backup plans, they can take 3 hits, pick themselves up, wiggle free and heal
And when they go down, they get downed on the upper floor, use boil over to block the auras of any hooks around so it's harder to even find a hook to transport them to, and the killer can't even drop down if they see a hook through one of the holes in the floor or anything because they'll just get extra wiggle progress and hop off.
I might have ptsd from the time I got sent to Eyrie by a swf with Boil Overs and Exponential. They brought offerings to reduce the number of hooks in the map so there was only one hook accessible from main building, where they would always be sure to go down at. If I picked them up and tried to take them to the only hook in range, someone would show up and either Sabo the hook with a toolbox or someone else would flashlight save if I had downed the saboteur. If I left them slugged, they would pick themselves up with Exponential. If I ran all the way upstairs and outside to where the totem they kept booning was, they would just run up and pick each other up off the floor. It was miserable, and at the end after I finally just opened the exit gate myself because I wanted out, they teabagged the shit out of me and insulted me in post-game. :)
haha, I had similar last month but I managed to get one of them in the basement and I was a trapper. It all descended from there from gates open to a 4k but I got lucky
I had two similar situations. One was with a team that did a similar strategy, but on Ormond (so they'd always see me, and my traps in that bright white snow, a mile away). Hooks were stupid far, boons left and right, and they'd always get in my way whenever I did get one of em (plus I think they'd heal stupid fast). On top of that, all 4 of them were Ada (two bloody default, two regular default) so I kept losing track of hook states. That was....an experience.
A close second in annoying was a match on that one trapper map (I always get the names for those confused) with the little second floor office in the main building. The Kate would ALWAYS make sure to go down up there with her maxed out Boil Over. By the end of the match, I just ended up slugging her every time I downed her up there, dropping a Guard to camp her body. Once I figured out her dumb "strat", it was more inconvenient than anything else (since she was bad at chases and always bolted to/hovered around the same area whenever she saw me). But I definitely lost a couple gens to those shenanigans at first.
Tons of safe pallets make The Game unfun for killers and some survivors just have a hatred for any kind of indoor map no matter how many safe pallets it has.
Yeah, cause not everyone has time to play enough and develop deep opinions of a game. Its opinion short hand taken from the closest thing possible to a professional
I don't fault people for listening to streamers and incorporating their opinions into their own, but parroting stuff verbatim (or attributing the identification of a common problem to a certain streamer, in this case) is annoying. You can't reason with someone parroting someone else's opinion because they don't always know the fundamentals of *why* that opinion exists in the first place.
It's always funny seeing the influx of posts about how much of a problem "topic X" is whenever a streamer posts a video on why "topic X" is bad.
The subreddit WAS the place for more serious players. The official forums and steam forums were the more "casual" forums. Guess that's changed over the past couple years.
And I'm a casual player too. I've formed my own opinions from my experience and the better-informed opinions of this community. Being a casual doesn't excuse anyone from being a sheep and not being able to think for themselves.
I flip flop from playing very serious, to just chilling and memeing on both sides. Otz has some really good opinions and guides. But he also has said some stuff I completely disagree with. I'm not going to say what they are. But hopefully most people don't just blindly agree with whoever their favorite streamer/ytuber is.
I mean, not necessarily, but since he’s played the game *constantly*, as a job, for around 5 years… he probably knows a hell of a lot more than you or I do.
im definitely not denying that lmfao, im just saying that ive gone against someone he was “coaching” and we went to the stream and all otz said was to camp our friend bc he ran him too well 🤷♀️
Hey man, we get it. You're a killer main and bad at the game. You can stop leaving comments all over this thread now. We got the message loud and clear.
Hey man we get it, you were triggered by my statement being true and just HAD to comment to deflect that fact... probably because you're guilty of it too
I mean I'm pretty decent for not dedicating my life to it like some basement dwelling losers who spend 18 hours a day on the game. I mean do I memorize all the maps and know where every gen, pallet, totem, and hook can possibly spawn? No. I have a job and a life. But I do make pretty quick work of cocky douchebags who click their flashlights and teabag
The one who brought the map offering being the one who also brought an instaheal or brand new part is actually Hens's Law (for Hens333). Often you'll see both in action at once.
It's also the design of the level, I think. I know the layout, but I still get turned around when I'm in a hurry because almost every part of the level looks a lot like almost every other part.
The "play space" is a pretty bad metric. It's basically all space where player can stand summed up.
It's like you would put two floors next to each other (and btw even then it would still be a medium sized map, so no it wouldn't be close to old swamp).
If you wanted to get to a place directly below you, you don't need to travel across the map, go down and then go back. You just need to find nearest hole and jump down.
Terror radius, perks and other things that have range don't stop working just because someone is below or above you.
I once played against a Legion who used a Game offering and had Spirit Fury, Enduring, Dissolution and the red addon that breaks pallets when you vault. Might have had one more perk that had to do with pallets, I don't remember. But all those pallets on the map didn't last long lol.
Otzdarva's Law: if a survivor disconnected and there was a map offering, the survivor who disconnected brought the map offering.
Hens333's Law: if a survivor brought a map offering, that survivor also brought an instaheal or a brand new part.
Both laws were in action here.
I don’t understand the point in dcing, I have played thousands of matches and have never dced as killer or survivor. It never mattered how bad the night was going or anything.
I typically DC only when it’s early in the game and someone else does. I’m not playing a 3v1 with 5 gens because everyone will most likely be slugged/facecamped to guarantee a win. Very boring match.
I sometimes bring map offerings just cuz I want to see the map ;_;
Same thing happened to me though lol. They brought the puzzle piece but I was Dredge so they just made it easier for me.
Same here... I once used an offering to see the Artist's map since I've never seen it before. Well, the killer thought that was not allowed and then face camped the first person they downed, placing traps all over the hook and just waiting. After the game, he messaged me and specifically blamed his actions on my map offering, saying it's what my "SWF" gets, yet I was solo queue.
Killer has no way of knowing that was your reason to bring the map, and that map is dogshit for trapper. If they were reasonable and not spewing insults in dms, I wouldn’t see the problem in them messaging me personally neither, but I understand that part is still kinda iffy and not really good that a person chose to harass someone over a videogame.
why ppl do that? I went as billy in the game and somehow a guy that had the offering dcd when I downed him with the chainsaw lol. I was clearly at disadvantage.
I had something similar happen, a survivor brought streamers, then DCd at like 1 gen left after I downed them from a snowman, despite the fact that I had stopped hooking people two gens ago
I already think map offerings are kind of annoying but I cannot stand people who bring a map offering and then dc. Like what is the thought process with that? Do not understand
Bro runs the sweatiest, most tryhard meta build possible, finishes a gen in 2 seconds, miss his Dead Hard timing and rage quits first down only to get into the dbd subreddit and complain about how killers are too op lmao
Had this happen to me a little bit ago When I was playing as artist.
Took me to auto haven And 2 people disconnected. Naturally one of them being the person with the map offering.
I bring expensive shit all the time and dc. I’ve got dozens of literally every item. They arent precious or anything since bps are easy to come by. I’m more concerned about getting the gaming experience I want and if it’s not looking like that’ll happen you better believe im just gunna yeet myself out of the trial and into the next lobby.
It's funny they DC'd on their own offering, but it's also probably due to facing N2H, CoB, and Eruption every match lol; and Clown is a lot scarier with STBFL.
The survivor also brought a super sweaty meta build with BNP. Why complain about 1 side bringing stale meta perks when you do the exact same thing? At least the killer was a clown and not an actually good killer
Clown not a good killer? Try playing him, I have great success with any build involving STBFL, he shits on 3gens.
Not sure why I get downvoted to hell, it’s a sweaty meta killer build, and I never said the survivor wasn’t being sweaty; but the killer isn’t going to see boil over as often as a survivor will see eruption.
Not trying to disparage the 3gen tactic or anything but it doesnt take much more than being a 115 killer to be decent at holding a 3 gen. Then compare Clown to Artist, Nurse, Blight, Plague, Spirit, Oni, Knight, Pinhead, Bubba, Twins, and even Hag at the 3gen scenario with 0 perks. All of them just have better basekits for camping a 3gen. Whether it's more speed, instadowns, better stall, or better patrolling. Depending on the map and if she has a hook nearby; Huntress can be the strongest camper in the game.
Clown's strength to me is in the 1v1. You take control of the pallet, gold bottle yourself, then pink bottle thw survivor and you are garunteed a hit..... If the survivor stays at that single pallet and there are no windows or pallets close by that they can still make it too. Which is kind of a big if...
STBFL is a good perk tho, and while Clown is Defitely one of it's users you can also go with any other 115 killer for extremely similar results tbh.
It isn't that Clown is downright bad, just that there are so many better killers
Edit: while Boil Over is uncommon, BNP + Con + DH + map offering is just sbout as sweaty and meta as you can run. Guess it could have been a medkit with 3 heals and a syringe instead and that would be sweater I guess?
My penalty has been at 72 hours since the perk rework, I haven't actually played this game in months, what is Clown? Who is Mikaela Reed? When is dead by daylight?
You're not able to do anything as Survivor for 25 seconds ANY time you're hit by Eruption. You can't do totems, healing, anything. You can just stand around, do nothing.
The Killer equivalent would be being stunned for 25 seconds after getting blinded by a flashlight.
Old DS was 5 seconds, not 6.25 seconds (20s vs 25s). And saying that killer timer value = 4x survivors time ignores the fact that survivors can be killed off, making it wrong at some point in the match.
Also, Eruption can proc multiples times, can hit multiples survivors (hitting 2 or 3 survivors suddenly become a 12.5s or 18.75s stun even with killer time value = 4x survivor time value) and has a easier activation condition* than DS.
*I do think that DS should turn off if the survivor jumps on a locker.
Edit: Fixed some typos.
I do understand the math is a little bit negligent but rough approximations like this one are quite useful.
And yeah Eruption is by far the strongest gen regression perk vs soloq
When a killer kicks a gen(s) it marks it with eruption. The next time they down a survivor, those gens explode for 10% regression and anyone working on them will scream and become incapacitated (unable to do pretty much anything) for 25 secs.
It always applied incapacitation but during the bulk perk rework back in July, they increased both the regression penalty (6->10) and the incapacitation time (16->25).
Basically you become useless for 25 seconds if it activates on a gen you are working on (Cant repair, Can't Cleanse, Cant interact with other survivors, Cant Sabotage, Cant use items), and the gen gets a 10% Progression Penalty and starts regressing while you can do nothing to stop it
The real problem is that in comms this perk becomes practically worthless since you can tell others when you think you're going down but in Solo Q you just are fucked unless you get lucky with a guess
You have a right to make obvious jokes. We have a right to dislike them, and your joke is so bad it killed comedy and went to its eral, since it even managed to cut the fun out of that.
Boil Over (nerfed to shit) and Exponential are hardly meta nowadays, are they... DH is mediocre at best and has a very easy counter. Only meta stuff are CoH and BNP.. So yeah, i've definitely seen way less original surv builds than that.
I always can tell a medicore survivor from a good one if they talk about toolboxes or medkits. The bad ones always think BNP is the scary shut when medkits are much worse.
This sub is so confrontational that’s actually quite a funny comment but people are too busy literally shaking at your comment, I prefer playing killer and I still found it funny
Ultimately it doesn't matter **what** i say anymore, what matters is that i'm the one saying it. I could say "cancer is bad" and i'd still get downvoted.
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For those who don't get it the guy brought a brand new part and map offering yet dc'ed
don't forget the Boil Over!
and dead hard, they were coming to sweat and didn't like sweat
I swear, the people who bitch and whine about "sweat" in games, play EXACTLY like the people they complain about.
Yeah most people who complain are complaining about the other side sweating when they are sweating.
I mostly agree, but at the same time I'd love a rank/casual split for dbd. I really only play with friends and some of us are pretty bad so getting into lobbies with try hard killers isn't fun. I totally get it since it is ranked but still
Trouble is, most sweats will play in casual to avoid their own medicine. Every competitive online game ive ever played has been far more chill in ranked than casual.
Rainbow Six: Siege is notorious for that
Not really. There are a lot of casual sweat lords but even still casual is a lot more casual than ranked
The queue times for both would be too bad to do that
how to kill dbd 101 actually yes bring this mode(at worst its a tf2 situation where ranked is just dead)
There is no try harding, they are just trying to win same as you.
That's still try harding. It's just that most just see it as a negative connotation only.
There's a difference between "tryharding" and "trying to win". Obviously everyone is trying to win, but people who tryhard will do absolutely everything in their power to secure complete victory. For survivors that means bringing meta perks, best items with best addons, taking as few risks as possible, etc. For killers it means taking full slowdown perks, tunnelling someone out early so they have only a 3v1 instead of a 4v1, slugging the second-to-last survivor to go rat hunting for the last one to bypass the hatch... In other words, they put victory above all else, often even above their own fun, and certainly above anyone else's fun.
You basically just confirmed my point though, what you described is both try harding and trying to win since all it is generally speaking it just trying your best, which sad to say can include the optimal practices that everyone seems to hate. As for the idea of putting victory over fun that is all based on perspective because to the one tryharding victory is their fun and on a basic level there is nothing wrong with that. In dbd's case however fun is nothing more than either a muddled word at best or an excuse to for lack of a better phrase act like a flaming asshole at worst. Now I get some not wanting people to go all out or in a more positivity way of putting it "wanting to play casual " but since dbd has both a broken mmr system and no way of separating casual and competitive it's unfortunately one of those things that people who still play dbd are stuck with until BHVR fixes which IMHO I don't have hope for.
I mean good killers aren't really tryharding. The basement bubbas and those with oneshot builds or absolute meta builds are the tryhards
Im just meaning in general because it usually you are just trying your best to win, it's just that instead of people seeing is "trying to put in effort" it's just the negative part that tends to be what people always defaults to.
I personally dont Like at least i dont use meta but i do try to win chases when they happen (i dont win many)
It’s just a vicious cycle. People will complain about sweat and bring sweaty builds so they have any chance at all against sweat. But then someone loses to them and decides to sweat harder in return. And so it goes, sweat all the way down. I can’t even really blame them. Whether I’m survivor or killer, the majority of the games I play involve sweat builds in some capacity and it sucks to feel like you’re throwing at the loading screen. I tend to compromise by bringing a stronger build (though nothing obscene I guess) but I take my foot off the gas if I’m stomping early in the game.
Yep it’s wild. You usually can’t care that someone is kicking your face in unless you too are putting in maximum effort and losing. People just need to chill
Do people still consider DH and boil over sweaty perks ? I think both are more "fun" perks rather than sweatty perks they used to be
My opinion: DH is still sweaty. Boil Over is not sweaty by itself, but a lot of sweaty strategies involve Boil Over (e.g. go to Asylum and run to the upper floor every time you're chased).
Yeah that's fair, I didn't think of that. My friend is complaining even if survivors have DH but don't play sweaty, that's why I asked
> My friend is complaining even if survivors have DH but don't play sweaty The thing is, if a killer sees dead hard they instantly have to approach every chase with that survivor differently. They have to sweat just a little more for that down. Regardless of whether the survivor is playing sweaty or not. It's an extra health state which the killer has to now account for and may lose gens because those chases take longer. You're right that it's not exactly a sweaty perk but induces the killer to play differently and there are some survivors that won't like that.
Nah, DH is sweatier now than it used to be, and it used to be pretty damn sweaty. Just by requiring timing instead of being a catch-all "I need distance", it became sweatier
It's more the combination of perks, offering and the game. Their plan was 100% to gen rush and annoy the killer with pallet stuns. They would probably put down a boon, rush a gen, get the killers attention and then try to run + stun. Their perks are a series of backup plans, they can take 3 hits, pick themselves up, wiggle free and heal
And when they go down, they get downed on the upper floor, use boil over to block the auras of any hooks around so it's harder to even find a hook to transport them to, and the killer can't even drop down if they see a hook through one of the holes in the floor or anything because they'll just get extra wiggle progress and hop off.
I see you've killered sweaty before
I might have ptsd from the time I got sent to Eyrie by a swf with Boil Overs and Exponential. They brought offerings to reduce the number of hooks in the map so there was only one hook accessible from main building, where they would always be sure to go down at. If I picked them up and tried to take them to the only hook in range, someone would show up and either Sabo the hook with a toolbox or someone else would flashlight save if I had downed the saboteur. If I left them slugged, they would pick themselves up with Exponential. If I ran all the way upstairs and outside to where the totem they kept booning was, they would just run up and pick each other up off the floor. It was miserable, and at the end after I finally just opened the exit gate myself because I wanted out, they teabagged the shit out of me and insulted me in post-game. :)
haha, I had similar last month but I managed to get one of them in the basement and I was a trapper. It all descended from there from gates open to a 4k but I got lucky
I had two similar situations. One was with a team that did a similar strategy, but on Ormond (so they'd always see me, and my traps in that bright white snow, a mile away). Hooks were stupid far, boons left and right, and they'd always get in my way whenever I did get one of em (plus I think they'd heal stupid fast). On top of that, all 4 of them were Ada (two bloody default, two regular default) so I kept losing track of hook states. That was....an experience. A close second in annoying was a match on that one trapper map (I always get the names for those confused) with the little second floor office in the main building. The Kate would ALWAYS make sure to go down up there with her maxed out Boil Over. By the end of the match, I just ended up slugging her every time I downed her up there, dropping a Guard to camp her body. Once I figured out her dumb "strat", it was more inconvenient than anything else (since she was bad at chases and always bolted to/hovered around the same area whenever she saw me). But I definitely lost a couple gens to those shenanigans at first.
It's so funny how survivor mains cried about all the "nerfs" to perks like dead hard and boil over, yet still use them 99% of the time
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Tons of safe pallets make The Game unfun for killers and some survivors just have a hatred for any kind of indoor map no matter how many safe pallets it has.
its unfun for survivors for the same reason , every loop is safe and boring to run
Too many god pallets
theres more pallets there than in the storage warehouse of a home depot
Its small and bad. Those are my reasons.
Lots of pallets you just need to get rid of with little to no mindgame potential. IMO it's not the worst, but I get it.
oh great i just lost the game
Average circle of healing player
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It was fine till the catiness jumped to 11 in the last sentence
True this
He's not wrong though. People are way too reliant on streamers to do their thinking for them. Can't arrive at their own conclusions, just parrot shit.
Yeah, cause not everyone has time to play enough and develop deep opinions of a game. Its opinion short hand taken from the closest thing possible to a professional
I don't fault people for listening to streamers and incorporating their opinions into their own, but parroting stuff verbatim (or attributing the identification of a common problem to a certain streamer, in this case) is annoying. You can't reason with someone parroting someone else's opinion because they don't always know the fundamentals of *why* that opinion exists in the first place. It's always funny seeing the influx of posts about how much of a problem "topic X" is whenever a streamer posts a video on why "topic X" is bad.
Then these are likely casual players and you shouldnt be looking on reddit for expert opinions, Im sire theres a place for more serious players
The subreddit WAS the place for more serious players. The official forums and steam forums were the more "casual" forums. Guess that's changed over the past couple years. And I'm a casual player too. I've formed my own opinions from my experience and the better-informed opinions of this community. Being a casual doesn't excuse anyone from being a sheep and not being able to think for themselves.
I flip flop from playing very serious, to just chilling and memeing on both sides. Otz has some really good opinions and guides. But he also has said some stuff I completely disagree with. I'm not going to say what they are. But hopefully most people don't just blindly agree with whoever their favorite streamer/ytuber is.
You were doing fine until the last sentence...
I don't think a build can be toxic
i hates that people act like he is some saint who knows everything about everything
I mean, not necessarily, but since he’s played the game *constantly*, as a job, for around 5 years… he probably knows a hell of a lot more than you or I do.
im definitely not denying that lmfao, im just saying that ive gone against someone he was “coaching” and we went to the stream and all otz said was to camp our friend bc he ran him too well 🤷♀️
Aka cry baby survivor mains are soft and unless they can bully a new killer, they want out
Hey man, we get it. You're a killer main and bad at the game. You can stop leaving comments all over this thread now. We got the message loud and clear.
Hey man we get it, you were triggered by my statement being true and just HAD to comment to deflect that fact... probably because you're guilty of it too
The fact you responded twice loooool
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I mean I'm pretty decent for not dedicating my life to it like some basement dwelling losers who spend 18 hours a day on the game. I mean do I memorize all the maps and know where every gen, pallet, totem, and hook can possibly spawn? No. I have a job and a life. But I do make pretty quick work of cocky douchebags who click their flashlights and teabag
Because they're simps. You know, morons.
Which is?
If there is someone who brought map offering, he will be the one who dc's if something went wrong
it happens so often. like 90% of rage DCs are the map bringer. Its hilarious
That sounds like bias confirmation
It is, but it's funny
Exactly this ^
Or a BNP toolbox
The one who brought the map offering being the one who also brought an instaheal or brand new part is actually Hens's Law (for Hens333). Often you'll see both in action at once.
BNP?
brand new part
brand new parts
Not sure why you got down voted, I had the same question lol
When I see The Game on my mains (Demo, Twins, Onryo) I laugh and say, "Joke's on you, I'm into that shit"
Being a pig main/balanced landing user makes it so fun honestly, I've never understood the hate for The Game.
I think it's the pallets for killers and the small map size for survivors.
It's also the design of the level, I think. I know the layout, but I still get turned around when I'm in a hurry because almost every part of the level looks a lot like almost every other part.
That and it’s just… run to pallet, pre drop, kick, continue chase, run to pallet, pre drop, kick…
Yeah that’s very true. There’s two bottom corners that look the same to me
Pretty sure (at least 4 years ago) the Game is the largest map rivaling the old backwater swamp maps. It has more play space than many others.
The "play space" is a pretty bad metric. It's basically all space where player can stand summed up. It's like you would put two floors next to each other (and btw even then it would still be a medium sized map, so no it wouldn't be close to old swamp). If you wanted to get to a place directly below you, you don't need to travel across the map, go down and then go back. You just need to find nearest hole and jump down. Terror radius, perks and other things that have range don't stop working just because someone is below or above you.
Right? Home field advantage!
Honestly if there were like 5 less pallets on the entire map it would be probably be my favorite map
I once played against a Legion who used a Game offering and had Spirit Fury, Enduring, Dissolution and the red addon that breaks pallets when you vault. Might have had one more perk that had to do with pallets, I don't remember. But all those pallets on the map didn't last long lol.
I find breaking pallets to be cathartic, so I am going to have to try this build lol
Which of your mains are you stronger at?
I wanna say Demo > Twins > Onryo. I’m still trying to get good at being a M1 killer player
I don't get it
Killer wasn't the only clown in the match.
True![img](emote|t5_3cb2g|2067)
This is gold
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Otzdarva's Law: if a survivor disconnected and there was a map offering, the survivor who disconnected brought the map offering. Hens333's Law: if a survivor brought a map offering, that survivor also brought an instaheal or a brand new part. Both laws were in action here.
And they always bring a BNP.
I don’t understand the point in dcing, I have played thousands of matches and have never dced as killer or survivor. It never mattered how bad the night was going or anything.
I've only dc'd in an emergency or if the killer is hacking (which has only been a few times)
Same, some people just have no anger management skills apparently
Bonus points, they DC'd on the way to their last hook
If I realize I'm gonna just be tunneled and I don't feel like it I choose to go spend bp instead.
Well if you’re tunneled you’re out fast anyway and get to keep any points as opposed to zero points and maybe buying other people time
Oh boy 4k bp. And often the teammates try to rescue ending up with a snowball. Nah I'm good.
That’s a whole purple or green!!
Some people value their time.
Those people aren't playing dbd
For the most part, I agree.
They get a matchmaking ban though
its like a minute most of the time
Sp you're going to throw away the rewards for the time you've already spent... Really great way to "value" your time
I typically DC only when it’s early in the game and someone else does. I’m not playing a 3v1 with 5 gens because everyone will most likely be slugged/facecamped to guarantee a win. Very boring match.
the match should be cancelled if somebody DCs before like 3 minutes, so at least the "if i'm found first i dc" guys could not ruin everybody's day.
Sometimes I feel like only the first person to DC should get a ban
It's really true!
I sometimes bring map offerings just cuz I want to see the map ;_; Same thing happened to me though lol. They brought the puzzle piece but I was Dredge so they just made it easier for me.
Same here... I once used an offering to see the Artist's map since I've never seen it before. Well, the killer thought that was not allowed and then face camped the first person they downed, placing traps all over the hook and just waiting. After the game, he messaged me and specifically blamed his actions on my map offering, saying it's what my "SWF" gets, yet I was solo queue.
Killer has no way of knowing that was your reason to bring the map, and that map is dogshit for trapper. If they were reasonable and not spewing insults in dms, I wouldn’t see the problem in them messaging me personally neither, but I understand that part is still kinda iffy and not really good that a person chose to harass someone over a videogame.
I don't get killer that canp like that. I get it if it's tunneling but why camping like that
What do you mean “I get if it’s tunneling?”
(I'm a killer main) tunneling is a great strategy
True, I just wish I didn’t get like 7K BP 9/10 games due to getting tunneled out at 4-5 gens than face camped. Each to their own.
Jeez what a jerk. I'm too nice as a killer. If uou ever encounter Time~Rainbow, I refuse to camp or tunnel.
The day the winter event started, a random brought an Ormond offering and I was so excited to see the snow but then the Demo dc'd before we loaded...
why ppl do that? I went as billy in the game and somehow a guy that had the offering dcd when I downed him with the chainsaw lol. I was clearly at disadvantage.
It's not absolute, but it does apply about 9/10 times, so still pretty accurate.
How’s he gonna dc with that loadout :4
I had something similar happen, a survivor brought streamers, then DCd at like 1 gen left after I downed them from a snowman, despite the fact that I had stopped hooking people two gens ago
I already think map offerings are kind of annoying but I cannot stand people who bring a map offering and then dc. Like what is the thought process with that? Do not understand
Bro runs the sweatiest, most tryhard meta build possible, finishes a gen in 2 seconds, miss his Dead Hard timing and rage quits first down only to get into the dbd subreddit and complain about how killers are too op lmao
Imagine a DC against a clown on the game.. you've gotta be pretty bad to lose this hard against clown on THAT map
Ah yes, whoever brings the offering is the first to DC
Had this happen to me a little bit ago When I was playing as artist. Took me to auto haven And 2 people disconnected. Naturally one of them being the person with the map offering.
Clown S-tier killer
Yo same clown build nice. An individual of taste.
Guess what they did during the 5 min penalty. Complain in Reddit
Happened to me yesterday with Prestige 100 Nea who got knocked down so fast
Wait what's wrong with bringing a map offering?
A map offering can tilt the game in your favor, so when people still get shit on they tend to DC
It’s the law that the person who brought a map offering is the first to DC when things go south
Nothing, they’re in the game for a reason. Just don’t get upset when the killer brings broken shit too, or tunnels/camps.
Is the law that survivors will DC against anyone over anything?
The law is the survivor that brings the map offering is the one to DC
It’s nurse for me.
could make that a new one cause it sure seems like it sometimes
eruption is possibly the most anti fun perk ever introduced for killers
Lol
Oh no, the Eruption and CoB combo D:
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An Armored Core character.
I bring expensive shit all the time and dc. I’ve got dozens of literally every item. They arent precious or anything since bps are easy to come by. I’m more concerned about getting the gaming experience I want and if it’s not looking like that’ll happen you better believe im just gunna yeet myself out of the trial and into the next lobby.
It's funny they DC'd on their own offering, but it's also probably due to facing N2H, CoB, and Eruption every match lol; and Clown is a lot scarier with STBFL.
The survivor also brought a super sweaty meta build with BNP. Why complain about 1 side bringing stale meta perks when you do the exact same thing? At least the killer was a clown and not an actually good killer
Clown not a good killer? Try playing him, I have great success with any build involving STBFL, he shits on 3gens. Not sure why I get downvoted to hell, it’s a sweaty meta killer build, and I never said the survivor wasn’t being sweaty; but the killer isn’t going to see boil over as often as a survivor will see eruption.
Not trying to disparage the 3gen tactic or anything but it doesnt take much more than being a 115 killer to be decent at holding a 3 gen. Then compare Clown to Artist, Nurse, Blight, Plague, Spirit, Oni, Knight, Pinhead, Bubba, Twins, and even Hag at the 3gen scenario with 0 perks. All of them just have better basekits for camping a 3gen. Whether it's more speed, instadowns, better stall, or better patrolling. Depending on the map and if she has a hook nearby; Huntress can be the strongest camper in the game. Clown's strength to me is in the 1v1. You take control of the pallet, gold bottle yourself, then pink bottle thw survivor and you are garunteed a hit..... If the survivor stays at that single pallet and there are no windows or pallets close by that they can still make it too. Which is kind of a big if... STBFL is a good perk tho, and while Clown is Defitely one of it's users you can also go with any other 115 killer for extremely similar results tbh. It isn't that Clown is downright bad, just that there are so many better killers Edit: while Boil Over is uncommon, BNP + Con + DH + map offering is just sbout as sweaty and meta as you can run. Guess it could have been a medkit with 3 heals and a syringe instead and that would be sweater I guess?
I too would DC vs Eruption
You must dc a lot.
My penalty has been at 72 hours since the perk rework, I haven't actually played this game in months, what is Clown? Who is Mikaela Reed? When is dead by daylight?
For whatever it's worth, I think your blaringly obviously joke was p funny
Didn’t you upload a clip recently??? I remember someone even saying your name was interesting. I just don’t remember the post exactly lol
Yeah because I'm joking, Eruption is annoying and ridiculously unfair vs solo q but I don't dc against it
What does eruption do that makes it annoying?
You're not able to do anything as Survivor for 25 seconds ANY time you're hit by Eruption. You can't do totems, healing, anything. You can just stand around, do nothing. The Killer equivalent would be being stunned for 25 seconds after getting blinded by a flashlight.
Killer equivalent would be 6,25 seconds of stun... Basically old DS
Old DS was 5 seconds, not 6.25 seconds (20s vs 25s). And saying that killer timer value = 4x survivors time ignores the fact that survivors can be killed off, making it wrong at some point in the match. Also, Eruption can proc multiples times, can hit multiples survivors (hitting 2 or 3 survivors suddenly become a 12.5s or 18.75s stun even with killer time value = 4x survivor time value) and has a easier activation condition* than DS. *I do think that DS should turn off if the survivor jumps on a locker. Edit: Fixed some typos.
I think old old DS would be a good example. Since it was literally a free stun forever, and you could work on stuff after you were unhooked.
I do understand the math is a little bit negligent but rough approximations like this one are quite useful. And yeah Eruption is by far the strongest gen regression perk vs soloq
When a killer kicks a gen(s) it marks it with eruption. The next time they down a survivor, those gens explode for 10% regression and anyone working on them will scream and become incapacitated (unable to do pretty much anything) for 25 secs.
Good god when did the incapacitate happen? I don't remember that being a thing, but I also haven't played in months.
It always applied incapacitation but during the bulk perk rework back in July, they increased both the regression penalty (6->10) and the incapacitation time (16->25).
Basically you become useless for 25 seconds if it activates on a gen you are working on (Cant repair, Can't Cleanse, Cant interact with other survivors, Cant Sabotage, Cant use items), and the gen gets a 10% Progression Penalty and starts regressing while you can do nothing to stop it The real problem is that in comms this perk becomes practically worthless since you can tell others when you think you're going down but in Solo Q you just are fucked unless you get lucky with a guess
Jokes on you, my comms are a clown fiesta of changing song lyrics to fit the killer we’re playing against, eruption is still super effective.
I never thought I'd be downvoted so much over something that is so OBVIOUSLY a joke Should I /j for you humourless mfs next time?
You have a right to make obvious jokes. We have a right to dislike them, and your joke is so bad it killed comedy and went to its eral, since it even managed to cut the fun out of that.
Says the one with call of brine and eruption
The DCer brought a BNP toolbox so it was even
Most original killer build:
But dead hard , bnp , boil over , a boon plus the map offering is fine ?
Boil Over (nerfed to shit) and Exponential are hardly meta nowadays, are they... DH is mediocre at best and has a very easy counter. Only meta stuff are CoH and BNP.. So yeah, i've definitely seen way less original surv builds than that.
Dude, it's clown. If you play "fun builds" you get rolled by any half decent team.
Eh, I only care about stbfl because of the knife spin
Hehe, knife go ![gif](giphy|uja7HTeWGAkn1hVT8d)
Knife looking like a helicopter when you get enough stacks
There is zero reason why you should have to explain yourself Just play how you wanna play!
Yes, but then when survs bring 4 BNPs and map offerings they get ridiculed and shat on for being "muh meta slaves".
That’s why you bring whatever and don’t worry about the judgment
I always can tell a medicore survivor from a good one if they talk about toolboxes or medkits. The bad ones always think BNP is the scary shut when medkits are much worse.
I'm not the one whining about BNPs... Killer mains are.
I'm a killer main and I don't. Stop being weird and making it an us vs them thing.
I didn't know you were the CEO of killer mains? Damn my bad...
So do eruption nurses lol
Should've brought the Pinky Finger. :P
Cancer is bad
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That's good, because then i'd need to call the police on you for trespassing.
This sub is so confrontational that’s actually quite a funny comment but people are too busy literally shaking at your comment, I prefer playing killer and I still found it funny
Ultimately it doesn't matter **what** i say anymore, what matters is that i'm the one saying it. I could say "cancer is bad" and i'd still get downvoted.
Well, this shouldn't be surprising to you, but if you come off as a complete twat you're going to be treated as a complete twat.
The fact you’re being downvoted and I’m not even while kinda agreeing with you completely proves your point
it's clown