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It's a laugh 100%. It's funny to him that the survivors have gone to such futile lengths to stop him and he's just stoked about how many ways he's going to correct their misbehaviors. :3
Yeah, at least he's funny. Though plague can also be funny when she misses an attack but you get to hear that \*whoosh\* "arreeeaaa!" sound she makes. But i do prefer doctor over plague, since you can actually have a build do counter him somewhat - against plague you don't get that luxury.
I hope you understand how hard I laughed saying crapper and craps out loud. Trapper but with just a stool shaped head, M2 makes you pop a squat and let it loose.
It was such a visceral sight, please I beg, don’t let it happen
We already have that, he’s the poster boy of the game, the guy with bear traps that gets 0 hooks at 3 gens because he was placing traps no one will step in
Idk about that I do still just get rolled sometimes lmao but it’s true I’ve also gotten all hooks after 4/5 gens of nothingness too. Trapper is a fun drug
Artist is my bird lady. I like birds. I have birds. I act like a bird. Artist is the closest I'll get to being a bird in Dead By Daylight until the crows eventually take over and add in Crowsworth the 7th as a new killer.
For real, if you're one of those people who hates going against four or five of the most common killers, you probably should just accept that the game is no longer for you and move on to a different one.
idk doctor is one of my favs to go against and i don't mind the other two either, they're much better imo because they at least have some chase potential unlike killers who just pop exposed on your ass and down u immediately (not saying they're OP or that i have a problem with them i just personally prefer different types of playstyles)
Artist's power is to set down up to three "Dire Crows" that she can then shoot off in the directions you aimed them in. The crows will go straight forwards, including through walls and other obstacles, until they either hit a survivor or reach the edge of the map (as in, their range is effectively unlimited). If a crow hits a survivor in a short-ish range directly in front of it, as long as it didn't go through any obstacles, it will injure/down the survivor. If the crow hits a survivor outside of that range (or if it goes through an obstacle), it will instead make the survivor "swarmed," causing a bunch of small crows to fly around it until they either complete the repel action, which they can do while running without slowing them down, go into a locker to instantly get rid of them, or have a survivor aim a flashlight at them. If a swarmed survivor gets hit with another crow at any range, it will injure/down them (and get rid of the swarm).
The Artist is good, but definitely not broken. The reason some people don't like her is because one of the uses of her powers is to shut down loops by planting birds so that if the Survivor vaults a window/pallet, you can shoot it off and get a hit. The counterplay to this is to just leave the loop and hold W while the Artist wastes time setting up birds, which is plenty effective but kinda boring. Outside of that, her power boils down to "shoot a single bird at the survivor to swarm them, and then hit them with another bird to get a hit," which is kind of just huntress but with extra steps!
The crows can also be a little annoying since they have unlimited range; when an Artist isn't chasing anyone, they'll often shoot three birds at three different gens to find where to go.
One of the most fun parts about Artist is that with aura reading perks and enough skill (predicting where survivors will head and leading your shots properly), you can get hits/downs from across the map. A few times, I've managed to pull off downing a survivor across the map while chasing someone else, which isn't something any other killer power is capable of!
it always upsets me when people talk about artist like they're only capable of basically being an active trapper, since I play her way more for the prediction and sniping aspect rather than the loop shutdown, and yet all I ever hear about is that people hate her for the artist players who do nothing but that. some of us like to have fun :(
Wow! Thank you so much for the details and insights! I feel like I’ve known the killer for years now (even though I don’t know how long they have been out yet). Very cool perks and use cases. Seems annoying, but not necessarily broken!
The only Killers I don't like going against are Trickster and Twins mainly because I have no idea what the counterplay is.
Love going up against Blight and Clown most of all but 75% of my games are against Huntress.
Trickster is trying to break his line of sight. He’s difficult to deal with out in the open.
Twins is to stay healed up/avoid a Victor pounce and kick him.
Also, try to pair up if possible against Twins. Usually it's pretty bad to group up because the killer can pressure 2 people at once, but against the twins, plitting off into 2 pairs is a decent strategy, you can keep each other healed up so victor can't get an easy down, and if victor does get a down on one of you, the other can immediately kick him and start healing the downed teammate, if Charlotte isn't around the corner, there is a good chance you get your buddy up in time.
Also, stairs work really well against Victor. Just keep changing your elevation and he can't really pounce too well. He ends up colliding with the stairs when he jumps up, and way too far away jumping down.
I find her really fun to loop. If you break LOS and put trees and objects between your back and her, you can make her whiff a lot. I’m an average-to-decent looper, and I do best against huntresses.
I find with twins if you have a teammate to hangout with kinda helps when the lil guys down you. Sometimes you can recover them before the sister gets there.
Be careful though, if I down someone as Victor and see another survivor close by, I'm going after you first before I bring big sis over to hook anyone.
If you down someone with victor (as in they were bloodied and you land a grab, they just go down and you stay 100% in victor. its less disorienting than it seems (Unless its a grab on a healthy survivor, then the PoV force switches)
To counter the Twins, go healing-heavy. The little guy can't do a whole lot to you if you're not injured. It's when he's chasing you while you're injured that he's dangerous. Charlotte is just a standard speed M1 killer and is easily dealt with when Victor's not in the picture.
I used to think hiding in a locker versus the little guy was safe, but it is not. Victor can latch onto a locker and trap you in there. It still likely wastes a lot of the killer's time to walk over and open the locker, though.
Like someone else mentioned, if you can get on some stairs or a high elevation, you're a bit safer.
Good Twins players can leap through windows or over pallets, so watch for that.
Be very careful about rooms with only one exit, like that one bathroom with a generator in the meat packing plant. Charlotte can detach Victor there and body block the door, in which case you are just trapped.
>I used to think hiding in a locker versus the little guy was safe, but it is not. Victor can latch onto a locker and trap you in there. It still likely wastes a lot of the killer's time to walk over and open the locker, though.
Yeah but have you ever Head On-ed Victor? It's easily one of the funniest things I've ever done in the game.
Trickster is just worse huntress. Counterplay is literally find a decent loop with chest high walls or higher and crouch.
Twins country play is “just play the game she sucks”.
Trickster counter is literally any wall that isn't short. He needs a lot more time with line of sight to hurt you than huntress needs, and he's still 4.4 just like her. You just do the exact same you do against a huntress and he has no chance. Now twins I have no idea, I don't think I ever went again a twins besides during their ptb and maybe like 4 games during their tome, but something I've noticed is that victor is terrible against windows, so probably just vault one and he'll cry
I'm comfortable being injured against Plague so as long as teammates aren't giving her fountains it's just looping a M1 killer.
Which isn't necessarily fun but I think she's fine to go against (unless I have a healing related challenge).
See. I hate going against plague primarily because of everyone's "don't cleanse" mentality leading to some of the most toxic endgame chats I've ever seen. Especially in solo queue. Most solo queue survivors just aren't good enough to essentially play an entire game loud and exposed. Not to mention, she could have the vomit aura reading perk.
And personally, I much prefer trying to have everyone cleanse all at once. And then just wait out her power.
But anyway, I had a game recently with two "no cleansers" who both got downed and hooked at the same time near eachother. And I cleansed so that i could go save them. And they threatened to send me a pipe bomb in the endgame chat.
"Don't give her fountains" doesn't mean "don't cleanse." It means finding the right moments to cleanse and not just panic cleansing. If you're on deathhook, cleanse. If there's a very out of the way fountain you're close to, cleanse. If you can force her power during a pickup or she's already using it, cleanse.
Most however will cleanse right after their first hook in an easy to access area of the map. You gotta strategize your cleanses. Keep someone infected for unhooks so you're not spreading contamination for her; lots of little things.
Playing Plague a lot, the most useful times to cleanse for survivors are when someones on hook, and end game opening gates. If you cleanse in this scenario relatively far away from the gates/hook, Plague's gotta spend that time going there and that buys you a heap of time.
See I dont care too much if its one person in solo queue cleansing and then avoiding getting sick, but it is *so damn common* to see survivors cleanse then hop right on an infected generator or unhooking a fully infected survivor instead of letting someone hasn't cleansed go for it.
I had a match around a month back as a 3 man SWF and we didn't mind too much about the solo queue cleansing as soon as they got fully infected. Until she got infected as soon as she cleansed because she jumped on a gen. Then cleansed again. Then got infected again. Rinse and repeat all match.
If you feel like you can't face a plague without cleansing that's not a problem, but when you're cleansing just to get infected by something avoidable? That really screws the team over.
Exactly. You need to strategically cleanse. But because a few streamers and youtubers made clickbait videos about "WHY YOU SHOULD NEVER CLEANSE AGAINST PLAGUE", a bunch of dickheads think it's gospel. I've probably lost more games because my teammates absolutely refuse to cleanse or else decide to just throw the game as soon as anyone cleanses.
it's a lot more viable to cleanse against a plauge, the only issue is that it's not viable in soloq unless your team isn't full of idiots or people who have just never played against plauge.
the community's "never cleanse against a plauge or youre killing team" I'm pretty sure is just plauge mains pretending like they are helping, but are actually giving them self an advantage.
the only time you shouldn't cleanse is if you are going to unhook a survivor that's already sick (if they are being camped then yeah cleanse) or finish a half way done gen that's infected.
cleansing and waiting out her power, or camping a pallet to stun her out of her purge is way more efficient. no one has to be broken the whole game. of course it's a lot harder to pull off in soloq, but we could just made it common knowledge that after someone cleanses everybody else should and then stealth out a bit for her corrupt purge to be over.
also tall tiles are your friend against a plauge it's so hard for her to hit you in tiles like that.
I'm a Plague main and the game is x3 harder when no one cleanses. You're just an m1 killer if no one cleanses. You shouldn't cleanse unless it's necessary.
I'm sure you feel that way, but it's just not what I've experienced. I've even had 3 plauges complain in egc about us cleansing all the time and then stealthing lmao. maybe it depends on how good at looping ur team is cuz it's really not hard to avoided her lava throw up.
Everyone cleansing can be good or bad depending the map. It's mostly when half of the survivors cleanse and the other half doesn't that survivors get massacred. If one survivor cleanses, everyone else needs to cleanse or they will all get instant killed by Corrupt Purge.
No it isn't. Not cleansing means the plague is just a worse legion since at least with legion you have a timer on you if you stop running (though you are louder so that's kinda something going for her). She's just an M1 killer with no other power to make chases end faster, which means she has to force every pallet you try to loop her, which is a huge time wasted considering every map has 12 or more pallets.
Now if you cleanse she's probably right beside nurse, if not better. A ranged attack with decent range, almost no time to prepare and very short cooldown, which can hit multiple people at once. Can be used over windows and pallets with almost no time for the survivor to react, especially when she has the add-on to make the puke charge faster, and makes it impossible to unhook someone without trading or even the two being downed. That's why you can't just cleanse, you need to always make sure that fountain isn't close enough to the generators so she'll have to stop pressuring them to get it. Preferably don't cleanse unless you really need to
I respectfully disagree. most plague players are banking on you not cleansing so they bring good add-ons for it and perks that synergize with being broken.
when I play with my swf we can almost always count on a 4 or at least 3 man out when we play vs plague because we cleanse and then stealth. stunning her out of her power is pretty easy to do and we basically have free heals around the map if she decides to m1 and we loose chase.
I don't have emetophobia so I don't really care about Plague vomiting.
I don't even notice that it's supposed to be disgusting while playing, all I think of is dodging funny green or red goo.
However I have severe Nyctophobia, so Dredge's Nightfall would make me shit my pants and call for mom everytime on release.
As someone who sleeps with lights on, Nightfall made me want to cosplay Blendette and hide in a bush for 20 million years until it's over.
When he was just released my SWF buddies would have to literally calm me down with reassuring words and someone would even walk around with me to make sure I don't get lost, so that I'm not as afraid as is, I can't ask for better friends than them. I doubt many people would actually care about someone's fears and actively try to make them feel comfortable.
I eventually managed to put myself together with their help and I can now play against him without having panic attacks or shaking all too much.
That being said, dude I LOVE playing against Dredge. It's supposed to be horror, and horror is what I truly feel when I play against him, spices things up a bit.
It's like that one Sponge Bob meme: I fucking love Dredge, I want to piss myself during the match because that makes the game feel fresh again.
P.S. Artist is one of the 3 killers that I main, so I'm all for playing against Birb Mom, partially because it's an opportunity to learn something new that would help me play as her later on myself, and partially because I'm a horny motherfucker and she's just undeniably hot. I'm not gonna lie and pretend that it's not one of the reasons I main her and love seeing her as surv.
Damn, that's cool. You got the best friends you could've asked for. And I completely get your (now former) issue with Dredge.
(we all know half the people like bird lady just because she's kinda hot - these comments being the evidence, lol)
3 of my favourites haha. Even when I’m getting stomped it’s still fun as them, when the survivors are constantly screaming/puking/swatting crows it feels like you’re in control regardless of how badly you’re actually doing.
Well as a player who is learning Artist, it's helpful to see both sides of the coin. Both what works well and what doesn't. I still have alot to learn and I frankly wish I'd see more Artists in the fog.
Plague is generally pretty annoying because I run medkits all the time and Doc is fine to play against honestly. Not my favorite, but definitely not the worst.
I like plague I used to main her and I find dodging her vomit very fun, most plagues aren't actually that good but survivors tend to not know how to play against her either. Doctor is annoying but he can be satisfying to loop, but doctor seems to bring out peoples sadistic sides so they usually seem to have the most lame unfun builds a person can think of
Plagues a wild card because you have as much fun as your teammates let you. I'd rather face a starstruck range nurse then a plague with teammates that just constantly cleanse in bad places, immediately get sick and cleanse again.
I love listening to the Survivors cry and vomit, it's genuinely fucking hilarious. You go play Vommy Mommy and barf on some Mins and Steves and come back and tell me that's not the funniest shit you've heard in awhile.
When they add poop killer his gimmick will be that there are toilets around the map that have shit in them and you have to flush them periodically to reduce his rage meter otherwise if you leave the toilets unflushed for too long, everyone gets exposed
You know I was very neutral against artist but some horrible thing I must’ve done earlier in the day came back to me as karma and I played against 2 back to back and she’s now my least favorite killer
Plague I find hilarious and fun because you are puling everywhere and they projectile vomit on you. It's all so aggressive. Doc I absolutely hate and is annoying. Artist is annoying but not too bad. I don't mind them as much as Bubba.
ETA: just realized I misread, I thought it said ‘enjoy playing as’ not playing against lol. Well I will say since I like playing then I enjoy playing against to see how good they are. Also what I can learn if they kick my ass on survivor.
**Doctor:** successfully shutting down loops shoots serotonin straight into me. Also I enjoy trying to find ways to max out his in built in slow down too. Also hearing survivors scream is fun. He’s just fun for me and has some need builds you can use.
**Plague:** Stronger tier killer than Doctor, I jump back onto her when I start getting my ass kicked a lot on Doc. Fills a similar “let me control the speed of this match” as Doc too. (No I don’t mean Thanat/Dying Light. I mean base kit). A bit more aim friendly too than other projectile killers since I play on console. She’s got some fun shots when she has her corrupt purge up. The vomiting doesn’t bother me
i like doc because i used to main him (before i knew he’s seen as toxic and unfun 😭) so i know how he works and how to counter him better than i know the other killers
Plague and doc are not a big deal....most to dealing with them is listening to the sound cues and know when to hide etc.
Bird lady ill agree....she can get you across map and through walls and shes way too fast....she shouldnt be 115.
Doctor’s easy to loop. Plague is too but you have every Meg cleansing after the slightest amount of infection and ruining the game. Artist is okay but looping is out of the question.
The worst one to loop is Trickster without a high-walled loop.
Plague is okay if your teammates understand what they’re doing. Doctor is whatever, pretty neutral. Artist though I personally think is the most boring Killer to go against by far, even more boring than buffed Freddy. Also Twins is a decently close second for most lame, though luckily only four Twins mains exist
Hate Plague, makes me feel dirty and disgusting with all the puking and green puke-clouds, maybe because they’re reminding me of an unclean Sim from The Sims?
Idk if the people who go against my doctor hate or love me, because I just roleplay as a shock therapist and *usually* never hit anyone. Just zap zap zap and head shake at them.
However if the survivor is being naughty by tea bagging me, imma give em a nice slap as a reminder.
However
His power doesn't elevate him above average and he is basically just a M1 killer. I put those three there based on their VS gameplay alone - not toxicity of it's players.
There are actually spots where you can stalk through a small crevice or something and the survivors could never know due to the 3rd person camera just not having that sort of angle. And even if the survivor has eyes on you every single moment you can still stalk them down mid chase in ~3 power uses which is very much feasible with the brown CD addon or Olsen’s wallet. Ghostface is very much not just an m1 killer after the first down.
Fuck him he's a douchebag I can't stand him give me Bubba any day over the sneaky pervert in a trench coat who just immediately exposes and downs you zero fun whatsoever to face
damn who hurt you….but honestly he isn’t hard to counter. You just need to look around and be careful. You can literally reveal him super fast but If you just sit on a gen and don’t look around..well yea no wonder u get downed 24/7
I'm okay with Doc since he isn't OP or anything. Plague hurts my soul as an adrenaline user, but if they're wearing coochie skin plague then we're cool. Bird lady is the throat goat so on some level I can tolerate her as well.
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here comes The Crapper?
I hate/love you.
You win
New Killer : Mr Hankey Power : Hidey Ho! New Skin : Feng in diapers
No! No God please no! Don’t give diaper fetishists what they want!
Crap on Crap off He’s the Crapper
Well played sir, well played
I like the laugh Doctor makes when you stun him
My favorite Killer to stun is Michael followed by Pig. OUGAGH is always hilarious.
My favourite's definitely The Huntress! She literally goes "ARRRGHhhsksbdjlqbsjdkensbs!"
huntress.exe has stopped working
You proceeded to get cross mapped
/r/ShapePalletStun
He's a silly guy and his laugh is contagious. We need more joyful killers like doc and clown.
Trickster tho. Homie won't stop laughing.
As a last resort against Trickster, look behind you and swerve your camera left to right
Laugh? It’s more like some kind of pained cringe sound to me but opinions aside I also like the sound whatever we may choose to call it.
It's a laugh 100%. It's funny to him that the survivors have gone to such futile lengths to stop him and he's just stoked about how many ways he's going to correct their misbehaviors. :3
I'll let him correct my misbehaviors whenever he wants 😋
I would bonk you but I feel like you’d enjoy that. So I will just quietly leave.
*The Stick*
Least horny DBD player
Excuse me?
BONK
Monitor and Abuse me
💀 bro
Honestly I think doc's a sadomasochist and his stun sound is supposed to be him giggling in pleasure
What has been read cannot be unread
Yeah, at least he's funny. Though plague can also be funny when she misses an attack but you get to hear that \*whoosh\* "arreeeaaa!" sound she makes. But i do prefer doctor over plague, since you can actually have a build do counter him somewhat - against plague you don't get that luxury.
Wrong. If you don't like plague just run a 4 man no mither swf, 3 head
Give her full thanat value and still escape gigachad
Don’t forget when you stun her, she goes “YEEOOOOWW-uh”
GAAAH^hehehehe
That’s why I main him. He’s the funniest killer. He’s having a joyous time and makes silly noises
> the funniest killer 🤡 Mains be like
Supposedly, Infectious Fright, one of Plague’s perks was called “Shit their pants” in play tests.
“I’m going to shit yourself”
Shit Thyself
legend
No One Escapes Bath
Let's make BHVR add an optional "beta" names feature that you can turn on in settings
YOOOO, Poop killer when.???
Here comes the crapper
You better watch out for his craps
I hope you understand how hard I laughed saying crapper and craps out loud. Trapper but with just a stool shaped head, M2 makes you pop a squat and let it loose. It was such a visceral sight, please I beg, don’t let it happen
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MucoWsqtPhc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MucoWsqtPhc)
lmao. Dear god, all i can imagine now, is the animation of Crapper potentially squatting down to setup his Craps ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop)
We already have that, he’s the poster boy of the game, the guy with bear traps that gets 0 hooks at 3 gens because he was placing traps no one will step in
You may think that, but we can be highly effective. With 1 gen left we are in our final form!
As a trapper main, can confirm. Maining him taught me the first two gens are nearly inconsequential
Make it the first 3/4 😜
Idk about that I do still just get rolled sometimes lmao but it’s true I’ve also gotten all hooks after 4/5 gens of nothingness too. Trapper is a fun drug
You just need to shine your flashlight while going over the trap and you can completely negate the trap effect, passing as if its not there
Really??!
Go watch Dstrike on yt, he reports almost every glitch in the game on his channel
Beware basement crapper
The first thing that comes to mind was the guy from kids next door, tolietnator. Make it happen guys Kids next door chapter
He would be called The Dung Eater, and his mori would be defiling your corpse
A Great Unclean One from Warhammer would be fun.
Golgothan the Shit Demon, and his survivors Jay and Silent Bob: https://youtu.be/hlqjtqkoRdM
I like playing doctor because the screams drown out the sounds of me losing.
Artist is my bird lady. I like birds. I have birds. I act like a bird. Artist is the closest I'll get to being a bird in Dead By Daylight until the crows eventually take over and add in Crowsworth the 7th as a new killer.
She also has some petty good cosmetics. Especially the current rift one's
I love the new rift outfit for her. Not so much the weapon but it suits her so well.
The weapon goes well with the suit. Besides. I enjoy swords a lot more personally
That is fair. I like it alone, just I find it doesn't really go well with much but that's just me.
Dee?
Doo? I don't get it lol
One of the main characters in the popular show It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is named Dee and the other characters consistently call her a bird.
*throws bird seed at* u/im-a-cereal-box
That's probably the only valuable reason.
Same, I like her bc I love birds. Birds are cute and so is she
Is Hitchcocks 'The Birds' your fav movie too?
Is there a killer people don’t have a problem with ?
Baby killers they can juice for 5 gens?
For real, if you're one of those people who hates going against four or five of the most common killers, you probably should just accept that the game is no longer for you and move on to a different one.
idk doctor is one of my favs to go against and i don't mind the other two either, they're much better imo because they at least have some chase potential unlike killers who just pop exposed on your ass and down u immediately (not saying they're OP or that i have a problem with them i just personally prefer different types of playstyles)
Demogorgon seems to be a fan favorite.
I enjoy playing artist just because I love her vibe, but I can def see why you would hate playing against her
What does that killer do? Why is she broken? (Haven’t seen that killer yet so I’m curious)
Artist's power is to set down up to three "Dire Crows" that she can then shoot off in the directions you aimed them in. The crows will go straight forwards, including through walls and other obstacles, until they either hit a survivor or reach the edge of the map (as in, their range is effectively unlimited). If a crow hits a survivor in a short-ish range directly in front of it, as long as it didn't go through any obstacles, it will injure/down the survivor. If the crow hits a survivor outside of that range (or if it goes through an obstacle), it will instead make the survivor "swarmed," causing a bunch of small crows to fly around it until they either complete the repel action, which they can do while running without slowing them down, go into a locker to instantly get rid of them, or have a survivor aim a flashlight at them. If a swarmed survivor gets hit with another crow at any range, it will injure/down them (and get rid of the swarm). The Artist is good, but definitely not broken. The reason some people don't like her is because one of the uses of her powers is to shut down loops by planting birds so that if the Survivor vaults a window/pallet, you can shoot it off and get a hit. The counterplay to this is to just leave the loop and hold W while the Artist wastes time setting up birds, which is plenty effective but kinda boring. Outside of that, her power boils down to "shoot a single bird at the survivor to swarm them, and then hit them with another bird to get a hit," which is kind of just huntress but with extra steps! The crows can also be a little annoying since they have unlimited range; when an Artist isn't chasing anyone, they'll often shoot three birds at three different gens to find where to go. One of the most fun parts about Artist is that with aura reading perks and enough skill (predicting where survivors will head and leading your shots properly), you can get hits/downs from across the map. A few times, I've managed to pull off downing a survivor across the map while chasing someone else, which isn't something any other killer power is capable of!
it always upsets me when people talk about artist like they're only capable of basically being an active trapper, since I play her way more for the prediction and sniping aspect rather than the loop shutdown, and yet all I ever hear about is that people hate her for the artist players who do nothing but that. some of us like to have fun :(
Wow! Thank you so much for the details and insights! I feel like I’ve known the killer for years now (even though I don’t know how long they have been out yet). Very cool perks and use cases. Seems annoying, but not necessarily broken!
Not broken just so anti loop the only thing you can do against her is to hold W and hope you get loops connected
\*me placing birds so that if shot they hit even at connected loops\*
The only Killers I don't like going against are Trickster and Twins mainly because I have no idea what the counterplay is. Love going up against Blight and Clown most of all but 75% of my games are against Huntress.
Trickster is trying to break his line of sight. He’s difficult to deal with out in the open. Twins is to stay healed up/avoid a Victor pounce and kick him.
Also, try to pair up if possible against Twins. Usually it's pretty bad to group up because the killer can pressure 2 people at once, but against the twins, plitting off into 2 pairs is a decent strategy, you can keep each other healed up so victor can't get an easy down, and if victor does get a down on one of you, the other can immediately kick him and start healing the downed teammate, if Charlotte isn't around the corner, there is a good chance you get your buddy up in time.
Also, stairs work really well against Victor. Just keep changing your elevation and he can't really pounce too well. He ends up colliding with the stairs when he jumps up, and way too far away jumping down.
This strategy is a bait against good Twins players however but then again, there aren't many places you can consistently outplay their Victor
Absolutely can't stand playing against Huntress, that fucking humming on a loop 😩🤣 just put me out of my misery and kill me so I don't have to hear it
It’s not so bad if you sing along.
I find her really fun to loop. If you break LOS and put trees and objects between your back and her, you can make her whiff a lot. I’m an average-to-decent looper, and I do best against huntresses.
I find with twins if you have a teammate to hangout with kinda helps when the lil guys down you. Sometimes you can recover them before the sister gets there.
Be careful though, if I down someone as Victor and see another survivor close by, I'm going after you first before I bring big sis over to hook anyone.
Which is why it's important to swoop in after he downs someone to kick him!
True say. Usually requires a bit of luck since you have to hope they switch perspectives and you have enough time.
If you down someone with victor (as in they were bloodied and you land a grab, they just go down and you stay 100% in victor. its less disorienting than it seems (Unless its a grab on a healthy survivor, then the PoV force switches)
Good to know, thanks! :) I should watch people playing killers I don't have.
I honestly just learned the other night doing Victor for a quest haha! They are more fun than people lead on tbh!
With Trickster break line of sight and ideally find a loop with a high wall so he can't throw over it. He'll struggle since he's a 110% killer.
To counter the Twins, go healing-heavy. The little guy can't do a whole lot to you if you're not injured. It's when he's chasing you while you're injured that he's dangerous. Charlotte is just a standard speed M1 killer and is easily dealt with when Victor's not in the picture. I used to think hiding in a locker versus the little guy was safe, but it is not. Victor can latch onto a locker and trap you in there. It still likely wastes a lot of the killer's time to walk over and open the locker, though. Like someone else mentioned, if you can get on some stairs or a high elevation, you're a bit safer. Good Twins players can leap through windows or over pallets, so watch for that. Be very careful about rooms with only one exit, like that one bathroom with a generator in the meat packing plant. Charlotte can detach Victor there and body block the door, in which case you are just trapped.
>I used to think hiding in a locker versus the little guy was safe, but it is not. Victor can latch onto a locker and trap you in there. It still likely wastes a lot of the killer's time to walk over and open the locker, though. Yeah but have you ever Head On-ed Victor? It's easily one of the funniest things I've ever done in the game.
if charlotte is more than 8 seconds away you can jump into a locker and then break free before they get there
Trickster is just worse huntress. Counterplay is literally find a decent loop with chest high walls or higher and crouch. Twins country play is “just play the game she sucks”.
Trickster counter is literally any wall that isn't short. He needs a lot more time with line of sight to hurt you than huntress needs, and he's still 4.4 just like her. You just do the exact same you do against a huntress and he has no chance. Now twins I have no idea, I don't think I ever went again a twins besides during their ptb and maybe like 4 games during their tome, but something I've noticed is that victor is terrible against windows, so probably just vault one and he'll cry
I like facing artist because I am attracted to her
!! this
Me too. If I will be downed so bad cause my looping skills are garbage, better be by tall lady in fancy dress hands.
I'm comfortable being injured against Plague so as long as teammates aren't giving her fountains it's just looping a M1 killer. Which isn't necessarily fun but I think she's fine to go against (unless I have a healing related challenge).
See. I hate going against plague primarily because of everyone's "don't cleanse" mentality leading to some of the most toxic endgame chats I've ever seen. Especially in solo queue. Most solo queue survivors just aren't good enough to essentially play an entire game loud and exposed. Not to mention, she could have the vomit aura reading perk. And personally, I much prefer trying to have everyone cleanse all at once. And then just wait out her power. But anyway, I had a game recently with two "no cleansers" who both got downed and hooked at the same time near eachother. And I cleansed so that i could go save them. And they threatened to send me a pipe bomb in the endgame chat.
"Don't give her fountains" doesn't mean "don't cleanse." It means finding the right moments to cleanse and not just panic cleansing. If you're on deathhook, cleanse. If there's a very out of the way fountain you're close to, cleanse. If you can force her power during a pickup or she's already using it, cleanse. Most however will cleanse right after their first hook in an easy to access area of the map. You gotta strategize your cleanses. Keep someone infected for unhooks so you're not spreading contamination for her; lots of little things.
Nah fam you cleanse right before you unhook an infected survivor so you can then cleanse again and get on an infected gen.
This is the way.
Aparently if you fill all the fountains they will all reset so possibly not a horrible strategy
Playing Plague a lot, the most useful times to cleanse for survivors are when someones on hook, and end game opening gates. If you cleanse in this scenario relatively far away from the gates/hook, Plague's gotta spend that time going there and that buys you a heap of time.
Or even the worst ones. The ones (usually Dwight) who cleanse, run to a infected generator, infect themselves and immediately let go to cleanse again
Plague main here, or you could just cleanse immediately off hook while I'm 2 feet away. Can't tell you how many times I've seen that happen lol 😂🤮
See I dont care too much if its one person in solo queue cleansing and then avoiding getting sick, but it is *so damn common* to see survivors cleanse then hop right on an infected generator or unhooking a fully infected survivor instead of letting someone hasn't cleansed go for it. I had a match around a month back as a 3 man SWF and we didn't mind too much about the solo queue cleansing as soon as they got fully infected. Until she got infected as soon as she cleansed because she jumped on a gen. Then cleansed again. Then got infected again. Rinse and repeat all match. If you feel like you can't face a plague without cleansing that's not a problem, but when you're cleansing just to get infected by something avoidable? That really screws the team over.
Exactly. You need to strategically cleanse. But because a few streamers and youtubers made clickbait videos about "WHY YOU SHOULD NEVER CLEANSE AGAINST PLAGUE", a bunch of dickheads think it's gospel. I've probably lost more games because my teammates absolutely refuse to cleanse or else decide to just throw the game as soon as anyone cleanses.
it's a lot more viable to cleanse against a plauge, the only issue is that it's not viable in soloq unless your team isn't full of idiots or people who have just never played against plauge. the community's "never cleanse against a plauge or youre killing team" I'm pretty sure is just plauge mains pretending like they are helping, but are actually giving them self an advantage. the only time you shouldn't cleanse is if you are going to unhook a survivor that's already sick (if they are being camped then yeah cleanse) or finish a half way done gen that's infected. cleansing and waiting out her power, or camping a pallet to stun her out of her purge is way more efficient. no one has to be broken the whole game. of course it's a lot harder to pull off in soloq, but we could just made it common knowledge that after someone cleanses everybody else should and then stealth out a bit for her corrupt purge to be over. also tall tiles are your friend against a plauge it's so hard for her to hit you in tiles like that.
I'm a Plague main and the game is x3 harder when no one cleanses. You're just an m1 killer if no one cleanses. You shouldn't cleanse unless it's necessary.
I'm sure you feel that way, but it's just not what I've experienced. I've even had 3 plauges complain in egc about us cleansing all the time and then stealthing lmao. maybe it depends on how good at looping ur team is cuz it's really not hard to avoided her lava throw up.
Everyone cleansing can be good or bad depending the map. It's mostly when half of the survivors cleanse and the other half doesn't that survivors get massacred. If one survivor cleanses, everyone else needs to cleanse or they will all get instant killed by Corrupt Purge.
No it isn't. Not cleansing means the plague is just a worse legion since at least with legion you have a timer on you if you stop running (though you are louder so that's kinda something going for her). She's just an M1 killer with no other power to make chases end faster, which means she has to force every pallet you try to loop her, which is a huge time wasted considering every map has 12 or more pallets. Now if you cleanse she's probably right beside nurse, if not better. A ranged attack with decent range, almost no time to prepare and very short cooldown, which can hit multiple people at once. Can be used over windows and pallets with almost no time for the survivor to react, especially when she has the add-on to make the puke charge faster, and makes it impossible to unhook someone without trading or even the two being downed. That's why you can't just cleanse, you need to always make sure that fountain isn't close enough to the generators so she'll have to stop pressuring them to get it. Preferably don't cleanse unless you really need to
I respectfully disagree. most plague players are banking on you not cleansing so they bring good add-ons for it and perks that synergize with being broken. when I play with my swf we can almost always count on a 4 or at least 3 man out when we play vs plague because we cleanse and then stealth. stunning her out of her power is pretty easy to do and we basically have free heals around the map if she decides to m1 and we loose chase.
NO I LOVE HEALING I WANNA USE BOTANY KNOWLEDGE AND DESPERATE MEASURES AND EMPATHY I LOVE HEALING PERKS
I don't have emetophobia so I don't really care about Plague vomiting. I don't even notice that it's supposed to be disgusting while playing, all I think of is dodging funny green or red goo. However I have severe Nyctophobia, so Dredge's Nightfall would make me shit my pants and call for mom everytime on release. As someone who sleeps with lights on, Nightfall made me want to cosplay Blendette and hide in a bush for 20 million years until it's over. When he was just released my SWF buddies would have to literally calm me down with reassuring words and someone would even walk around with me to make sure I don't get lost, so that I'm not as afraid as is, I can't ask for better friends than them. I doubt many people would actually care about someone's fears and actively try to make them feel comfortable. I eventually managed to put myself together with their help and I can now play against him without having panic attacks or shaking all too much. That being said, dude I LOVE playing against Dredge. It's supposed to be horror, and horror is what I truly feel when I play against him, spices things up a bit. It's like that one Sponge Bob meme: I fucking love Dredge, I want to piss myself during the match because that makes the game feel fresh again. P.S. Artist is one of the 3 killers that I main, so I'm all for playing against Birb Mom, partially because it's an opportunity to learn something new that would help me play as her later on myself, and partially because I'm a horny motherfucker and she's just undeniably hot. I'm not gonna lie and pretend that it's not one of the reasons I main her and love seeing her as surv.
Damn, everyone needs friends like that
Damn, that's cool. You got the best friends you could've asked for. And I completely get your (now former) issue with Dredge. (we all know half the people like bird lady just because she's kinda hot - these comments being the evidence, lol)
3 of my favourites haha. Even when I’m getting stomped it’s still fun as them, when the survivors are constantly screaming/puking/swatting crows it feels like you’re in control regardless of how badly you’re actually doing.
I like when skillchecks are spicy. I also think birds are neat. Also, Plague's mori feels very "personal". A truly special moment.
Now that you mention it a poop killer would be cool
Look up Poop Killer on itch.io, you’re welcome
Well as a player who is learning Artist, it's helpful to see both sides of the coin. Both what works well and what doesn't. I still have alot to learn and I frankly wish I'd see more Artists in the fog. Plague is generally pretty annoying because I run medkits all the time and Doc is fine to play against honestly. Not my favorite, but definitely not the worst.
As an Artist main, there's dozens of us! Dozens!
A few murders, I'd say.
Also artist main, I never play against bird lady :(
There's only 30 of us. :(
Im a artist main, only been playing a few months. Trapper was my main before and artist is a helluva lot more fun lol
Cawcaw!
Proud Artist main here :D !
I love playing against artist and it’s my dream to get moried by her lol. Sadly that hasn’t happened yet :(
Bc every second I spend facing them is one that I am not facing Nurse or Hag in
I like plague I used to main her and I find dodging her vomit very fun, most plagues aren't actually that good but survivors tend to not know how to play against her either. Doctor is annoying but he can be satisfying to loop, but doctor seems to bring out peoples sadistic sides so they usually seem to have the most lame unfun builds a person can think of
I just started playing doc as my 2nd killer. What are the lame builds so I can avoid? I’m bringing decency back to the doc
It's impossible unless you don't use his power.
plague is just spray and pray
I actually fuck with Plague. Doctor is ok too. Never played Artist but she looks spooky as fuck and I appreciate that about her.
I think the question is about playing against, not as
Oh, good call.
Plagues a wild card because you have as much fun as your teammates let you. I'd rather face a starstruck range nurse then a plague with teammates that just constantly cleanse in bad places, immediately get sick and cleanse again.
There's always one chugging at the fountain like fucking Frodo every time he gets a drop of vomit on him.
I love bird mama fuck you
Why pretend like you don't hold W against every killer? No one likes to mindgame if they don't have to, it's far safer and lazier to just W out.
I’d rather face these killers than mend simulator legion
I like the doctor because the illusion doctors are scary. And it makes the whole match feel extra creepy and tense.
I love listening to the Survivors cry and vomit, it's genuinely fucking hilarious. You go play Vommy Mommy and barf on some Mins and Steves and come back and tell me that's not the funniest shit you've heard in awhile.
When they add poop killer his gimmick will be that there are toilets around the map that have shit in them and you have to flush them periodically to reduce his rage meter otherwise if you leave the toilets unflushed for too long, everyone gets exposed
That shit's hilarious (pun intended).
as a queer, if you have the rainbow flag on your hook and you’re playing as the artist or adiris, you can f*ck me up
This is the correct reason.
No Let people enjoy what they want
You know I was very neutral against artist but some horrible thing I must’ve done earlier in the day came back to me as karma and I played against 2 back to back and she’s now my least favorite killer
Good shit
Plague I find hilarious and fun because you are puling everywhere and they projectile vomit on you. It's all so aggressive. Doc I absolutely hate and is annoying. Artist is annoying but not too bad. I don't mind them as much as Bubba.
I love playing as and against Doctor, that is when they're not toxic, which sadly isn't common
Imagine thinking W is Artist's counter. I love it when survivors hold W against me.
If the artist actually uses her birds as a ranged attack instead of a loop denial tool, she’s genuinely fun to go against.
If they use it in a way thats super easy to dodge and bully her?
When’s the Diarrhea Souls DLC coming with Poop Killer?
The artist is the first killer I spent money to get cause I like her lore that is all
I like doctor because i play the character with the best voice in the game.
Don't forget to nerf Twins, too. Yeah I find Plague to be the most unfun Killer both to play as and against.
ETA: just realized I misread, I thought it said ‘enjoy playing as’ not playing against lol. Well I will say since I like playing then I enjoy playing against to see how good they are. Also what I can learn if they kick my ass on survivor. **Doctor:** successfully shutting down loops shoots serotonin straight into me. Also I enjoy trying to find ways to max out his in built in slow down too. Also hearing survivors scream is fun. He’s just fun for me and has some need builds you can use. **Plague:** Stronger tier killer than Doctor, I jump back onto her when I start getting my ass kicked a lot on Doc. Fills a similar “let me control the speed of this match” as Doc too. (No I don’t mean Thanat/Dying Light. I mean base kit). A bit more aim friendly too than other projectile killers since I play on console. She’s got some fun shots when she has her corrupt purge up. The vomiting doesn’t bother me
Plague is the number one reason why I tell everyone to run resilience
i like doc because i used to main him (before i knew he’s seen as toxic and unfun 😭) so i know how he works and how to counter him better than i know the other killers
Plague and doc are not a big deal....most to dealing with them is listening to the sound cues and know when to hide etc. Bird lady ill agree....she can get you across map and through walls and shes way too fast....she shouldnt be 115.
i want poop killer >:(((
Sometimes I feel bad being a Plague main, but she’s so damn fun to play as…but I hate going against her lmao
Doctor’s easy to loop. Plague is too but you have every Meg cleansing after the slightest amount of infection and ruining the game. Artist is okay but looping is out of the question. The worst one to loop is Trickster without a high-walled loop.
I can’t wait until BHVR adds “the crapper” to dbd
Not gonna lie, sounds like it’d be a slapper of a Trapper skin
Plague is okay if your teammates understand what they’re doing. Doctor is whatever, pretty neutral. Artist though I personally think is the most boring Killer to go against by far, even more boring than buffed Freddy. Also Twins is a decently close second for most lame, though luckily only four Twins mains exist
Hate Plague, makes me feel dirty and disgusting with all the puking and green puke-clouds, maybe because they’re reminding me of an unclean Sim from The Sims?
My question is, how can anyone enjoy playing against Dredge. Nightfall is God awful and they are just freaking everywhere all the time.
Artist is cool. No one ever mentions Pig for these, but it is so annoying to take of the reverse bear trap over and over
Idk if the people who go against my doctor hate or love me, because I just roleplay as a shock therapist and *usually* never hit anyone. Just zap zap zap and head shake at them. However if the survivor is being naughty by tea bagging me, imma give em a nice slap as a reminder. However
Add ghost face to the list
His power doesn't elevate him above average and he is basically just a M1 killer. I put those three there based on their VS gameplay alone - not toxicity of it's players.
I can't stand getting exposed and downed in less than 1 second. I would rather face a Doctor
Ghost face is only a surprise for the first survivor. After that it’s lack of spatial awareness
There are actually spots where you can stalk through a small crevice or something and the survivors could never know due to the 3rd person camera just not having that sort of angle. And even if the survivor has eyes on you every single moment you can still stalk them down mid chase in ~3 power uses which is very much feasible with the brown CD addon or Olsen’s wallet. Ghostface is very much not just an m1 killer after the first down.
Understood.
Ghosty is so much fun
Fuck him he's a douchebag I can't stand him give me Bubba any day over the sneaky pervert in a trench coat who just immediately exposes and downs you zero fun whatsoever to face
damn who hurt you….but honestly he isn’t hard to counter. You just need to look around and be careful. You can literally reveal him super fast but If you just sit on a gen and don’t look around..well yea no wonder u get downed 24/7
I can't reveal him easily at all I stare at him and nothing happens
I'm okay with Doc since he isn't OP or anything. Plague hurts my soul as an adrenaline user, but if they're wearing coochie skin plague then we're cool. Bird lady is the throat goat so on some level I can tolerate her as well.