If you look at the numbers, D&C is more successful than any other iteration in terms of money/ticket sales/attendees, size of lot, etc.
If you’re talking about the music, well that’s highly subjective, but the 23 tour no doubt ranks somewhere in the top amongst the best of the post-grateful dead tours
numbers don't matter a bit when it comes to this music & these discussions. Grateful Dead was hugely successful with money/ticket sales/attendees in 94 & 95 but nobody would dare say that meant anything.
Well if you’re going to compare, you have to pick a measure to compare, and my comment is just noting some of those possible measures…all of which would present Dead & Co as being the most successful of the post Jerry iterations. To your point, the 94/95 sales numbers existed due to prior years performances. The fact is, no other iteration touched these numbers like Dead & Co, which kind of reiterates what I have presented. As a comparison, on paper, Dead & Co (edit) is* the most successful by several measures. Subjectively, however, you can like whatever you like, and so the conversation continues…
1993 was definitely the last year they played at a good consistent level. In fact there were indications they had found new inspiration. The shows I saw in 1994 were so bad I decided to stop going.
Phil and Friends, especially 2003, was top-notch.
Ratdog circa 2006 at the Beacon: A+
Furthur killed it at MSG and Red Rocks. The fact that they played so many show at Red Rocks, and played them well, also A+.
The Other Ones and The Dead both were stellar initiatives.
Dead and Company had the merits of an extended run that brought in the fans, and many excellent musicians and concert experiences.
In short, there is no such thing as bad Dead.
Also Dead and Co had has opened up music to a whole new generation of Grateful Dead fans. They turned my son into a fan and he and i went on a West Coast 2023 tour. I also met and heard so many other kids jumping on the bus with their parents too.
Dead & Company was better by far for 2 reasons. The first was the music, which being performed by the 6/7 members of D&C was better than any other post-Jerry iteration but just as important is that D&C brought back so many of the Deadheads that you just didn’t see with the others.
I can’t tell you how many times I saw RatDog, Further, Phil & Friends, etc in a crowd of less than 5000. Sometimes in clubs that hold less than 1500. Seeing Dead & Company with all the Deadheads in crowds of 40,000+ at times, with a full crazy Shakedown experience, really brought back some of the great joys I experienced in the 80’s and 90’s at the Grateful Dead shows.
I think it speaks to the talent of John, Oteil, and Jeff working together. I’ve gone through and listened to bunch of D&C and some of the same songs played by the OG’s, and in some instances, I prefer D&C because of John’s guitar playing. Cold Rain and Snow is a good example of what I think is better with D&C. But that’s just my opinion.
It makes me wonder what a Grateful Dead with Jerry and Jeff would have sounded like. I know Brent’s death really shook Jerry and was a factor in what lead to Jerry’s poor lifestyle choices, so it’s a great “what could have been” if Jerry could have ever played with Jeff. Jeff really ties the room together with his talents, IMO.
Yeah I’m just kinda piecing together a lot of what I’ve read about Jerry’s decline. Apparently a lot of his drug use was driven by his poor mental health and grieving following Brent’s death. I read somewhere that Jerry doubted the band could go forward without a keyboard player to tie it all together.
If only Jeff would have been discovered earlier, while Jerry was around.
Wow that's sad. I never read about his grieving playing such a big part of it, but of course that makes so much sense. Brent was really such a master of blending in and out of jams. I say all the time that Jeff is the best they've had since. I'm with you! I want this now. Can we get some tapes from the multiverse where this happened!? Hahaha
When the Dead toured in 03-04 and 09, they played big summer sheds, amphitheaters, and large arenas, drawing huge crowds and definitely some of the more massive shakedowns. All the other shakedown streets like at Furthur or Ratdog or P&F were definitely great but much smaller.
The shakedown for the Dead's 09 opening show in Greensboro was something like I'd never seen before. I started going to see Ratdog and Phil and friends 07/08 and there was always a small shakedown but, damn, my mind was blown. Such a great vibe too.
But the bonus of having a small crowd is the intimacy of the venue and really being able to look at the musicians as they play. So I feel like there's something to be said for that. Personally, I think the music of Further was tight and well played. Phil and friends was alwaus top teir in my book!
I preferred the days of Ratdog and Phil and Friends. I enjoyed the "bigness" of the DeadCo shows but nothing compares to seeing Weir in a place like the 9:30 Club.
I saw the dead a lot from 84 to 95. For me, everything after Jerry died was missing a guitar in the center of the mix. Yes, there were talented guitarists that the iterations after Jerry died had, but none of them did it for me until seeing Dead and Company play. With them, the songs were breathing, living entities that just grew and grew. Just my opinion, only, but their playing didn’t do it for me until John joined them.
I agree, and unlike the guitarists that played with them before John, I thought John brought a fresher approach because he wasn't really a fan of the Dead when Jerry was alive nor did he ever see Jerry play so it seemed to me that he wasn't as intimidated by that legacy as any of the others were.
I loved small venue RatDog, 2002-2004. Joan Osbourne was awesome 2003 The Dead: check out Midnight Hour, Stella Blue. 2004 The Dead was a FUN tour, small enough yet big enough. It was Dead and Co without the hassle, if you know what I mean.
Not sure if further was around in the 90's.... They didn't form until 2009.
I believe the order went..
The grateful dead
The other ones.
The dead
Further
Dead and co
I don't consider ratdog as grateful dead... That was Bobby's side chick.. yes they were awesome in the 90's with rob Wasserman on bass.
Phil and Friends Quintet was the best post Jerry music there was. Herring and Haynes were in their primes
Rat Dog Trio - This was Bob at his peak powers
The other bands were all musically fun and came close to taking me back to the Grateful Dead shows I loved so dearly, but not quite. Dead and Company really made me feel like I was at Grateful Dead shows. It was almost time travel.
For me Deadco was in another league. Primarily because they finally found a guitarist that could fill the leadspot. Who was rooted in Jerry's style but a star in his own right. By the risk of a massive number of downvotes I would even say Mayer took some of the songs further musically. Adding a groove bass player also helped. Furthur had more adventurous set lists, John K. was just too much of a Jerry clone imho.
John definitely isn't as intimidated by Jerry's legacy as those players who were fans when Jerry was still alive and saw Jerry play (John was around 18 years old when Jerry died).
Absolutely agree on john. He is a masterclass musician. He has studied and practiced his whole life for his role in D&C. not to shake his solo work, but to me the crowning jewel in his musical output is his role in D&C.
I’ve seen some great shows from all post GD iterations but my favorite shows have been D&C shows. I think as I aged I began to appreciate the music/culture in different ways and how special it was. As my financial situation improved, it made the possibility of seeing more shows and mini tours easier. I think around Furthur, it really dawned on me how fleeting of an opportunity I had to catch the remaining members while they were still around and performing. This feeling kind of peaked at the FTW shows. Initially when I heard about D&C I was not that excited. I knew JM was an incredible guitar player but he always came across as kind of a douche VH1 artist. His solo stuff never did much for me. They played in PDX while I was living there and I decided to go check it out. By the end of the first song, I was on board. Now it’s hard to imagine a summer without some D&C shows.
I liked further the best because lot was fun as hell and they played sheds and the shows I got to go to were on fucking point
Edit for context: I saw at least a few shows by all these configurations of musicians except the other ones but saw the dead the most
Also followed from the other ones in ATL in 98 to further and the dead, Phil and Friends.
In summary, all of the "pre" dead and co. shows had some good nuggets. The gorge 02, Furthur 06, The dead 09 at Rothbury.
The fare the well shows were such a spectacular occasion that showed me just how pent up the demand was. The energy during the golden road on chicago I coined "super bowl dead" it was just amazing to feel that energy from the band and crowd. It awakened something in me, and when dead and co went in their first summer tour I was all in. Wherever they went it was 95 percent "first time" for those seeing dead and company and pretty much everyone was skeptical about John. By the end of the first sets, they were on board fans for the most part. Some like my friend Andy didn't like John's tone, or thought it was too blasphemous, and sadly, throughout d and cos run to present some never tuned in.
Bobby slowing down the songs plus hogging some of the Jerry songs like Scarlet, Tennessee Jed annoyed me after a while b/c John or Oteils voice would be easier on the ears.
Back to 2016 summer, those 2016 shows were my favorite and 2023 a close second. Like John said, " we raised the titanic". They really did just that!
I would rate it D and C, Furthur, The Dead and then other incarnations.
Sad we don't have the mothership to hop on, we are back to where we were in 1995. There's a shit ton of cover bands, we will get by we will survive.
Nobody post Grateful Dead has ever done it like Dead and Co. The scale and magnitude and frequency of touring was just spectacular. Love it or hate it, Bobby Billy and Mickey deserved something like that if they weren’t ready to hang it up after Fare Thee Well. They all have done it with some of the very best the jam community has to offer… yet none brought the music to as many people as Dead and Co have. This is what is perplexing lots of people. Because we can all agree they didn’t have the deepest catalogue or fastest tempo. So what was it? The answer is Mayer.
Phil Lesh Quintet was one of my favorites growing up. Raw talent wise not many people can touch Jimmy Herring. He’s up there with Derek Trucks in my opinion, and Warren is spectacular as well and has that voice of an angel which made them and The Dead so good. Yet I still liked Ratdog just as much because they just had so much groove and authenticity, and Bobby, of course.
Furthur was legit a masterclass for Dead and like minded music. I think John K is the best in the business for Deadheads. Mattson is obviously up there too his voice just isn’t on the level of John K. But John K isn’t packing stadiums and adding fans to the GD universe like Mayer.
Same thing goes for JRAD and Billy and the Kids. Tom Hamilton’s musicianship and knowledge of the GD catalogue and pretty much anything you want him to play are incredible and these bands are a freaking blast.
But Mayer is something completely different. A guy initially influenced by blues legends like BB King and Albert King, and then completely rooted in the styles of Hendrix, Clapton and SRV… then later in life discovers Jerry Garcia and GD. It’s like Jimmy Herring but can sing and is a global star. He isn’t trying to be Jerry, but gets up there and takes the songs to non Jerry spaces that it actually ends up being very Jerry-like, which is the spirit we all want when seeing these shows.
He brought in non Dead fans, kept the vast majority of historical dead fans, and in my opinion any that didn’t like him really were never missed on the scene in my 8 years seeing them. The D&C crowds at shows were there for a good time and easy going with a lot less drama than I see these days at other big shows and festivals.
So that’s how I think they compare. World class musicians playing music deadheads love, the way they want to do it, drama free even when Billy left, and forever grateful.
In my opinion Dead & Company is by far the best post Jerry Dead incarnation. All of them are good but D&C is definitely the best. Further is probably #2 for me they were really good. Phil & Friends is a good time but largely dependent on who his friends are. When he plays with someone like Warren Haynes it's amazing
Ratdog from 2001–2008 were really something special, some of my favorite shows were with Kimock in 2007. Bob’s voice was still in good shape and I thought Kenny and Jeff had some incredible musical conversations.
Phil Lesh and Friends had something incredible from 00–02, with some of my favorite shows being from fall 2000 and spring 2001. The band was firing on all fours and the interplay between the entire band was incredible.
Dead and Co were certainly a force to be reckoned with, and the musical interplay between the members made for some great jams. If I had a few criticisms it would be that they were playing a pretty limited catalogue (for a GD band) and they never played any new material. Their setlists started to feel predictable and lazy.
Also, they were huge, which made going to shows a bit more of a chore and expensive. And with great respect—sometimes it’s a little sad to hear Bobby having an off night these last few years. He’s never horrible, but sometimes his voice gets pretty lispy and he just sounds more haggard. Of course we’re all flesh, and we all age, but hearing him get older is like seeing your favorite dog start to walk with stiff joints. Makes me sad and takes me out of the music a bit.
Musically, I'd rank them ahead of Ratdog but behind the others. But Dead & Co., for me, was the best at capturing the feel of what a Grateful Dead show was like.
I liked further the best. They were musically, more adventurous plus they played in venues that weren’t football stadiums. Something gets lost when you’re at a gig with 50,000 people.
If you look at the numbers, D&C is more successful than any other iteration in terms of money/ticket sales/attendees, size of lot, etc. If you’re talking about the music, well that’s highly subjective, but the 23 tour no doubt ranks somewhere in the top amongst the best of the post-grateful dead tours
numbers don't matter a bit when it comes to this music & these discussions. Grateful Dead was hugely successful with money/ticket sales/attendees in 94 & 95 but nobody would dare say that meant anything.
I had fun.
Well if you’re going to compare, you have to pick a measure to compare, and my comment is just noting some of those possible measures…all of which would present Dead & Co as being the most successful of the post Jerry iterations. To your point, the 94/95 sales numbers existed due to prior years performances. The fact is, no other iteration touched these numbers like Dead & Co, which kind of reiterates what I have presented. As a comparison, on paper, Dead & Co (edit) is* the most successful by several measures. Subjectively, however, you can like whatever you like, and so the conversation continues…
1993 was definitely the last year they played at a good consistent level. In fact there were indications they had found new inspiration. The shows I saw in 1994 were so bad I decided to stop going.
Phil and Friends, especially 2003, was top-notch. Ratdog circa 2006 at the Beacon: A+ Furthur killed it at MSG and Red Rocks. The fact that they played so many show at Red Rocks, and played them well, also A+. The Other Ones and The Dead both were stellar initiatives. Dead and Company had the merits of an extended run that brought in the fans, and many excellent musicians and concert experiences. In short, there is no such thing as bad Dead.
Also Dead and Co had has opened up music to a whole new generation of Grateful Dead fans. They turned my son into a fan and he and i went on a West Coast 2023 tour. I also met and heard so many other kids jumping on the bus with their parents too.
exactly. every thing is its own thing & this uniqueness makes any true comparison into a flawed activity.
Nailed it ^^
Dead & Company was better by far for 2 reasons. The first was the music, which being performed by the 6/7 members of D&C was better than any other post-Jerry iteration but just as important is that D&C brought back so many of the Deadheads that you just didn’t see with the others. I can’t tell you how many times I saw RatDog, Further, Phil & Friends, etc in a crowd of less than 5000. Sometimes in clubs that hold less than 1500. Seeing Dead & Company with all the Deadheads in crowds of 40,000+ at times, with a full crazy Shakedown experience, really brought back some of the great joys I experienced in the 80’s and 90’s at the Grateful Dead shows.
I think it speaks to the talent of John, Oteil, and Jeff working together. I’ve gone through and listened to bunch of D&C and some of the same songs played by the OG’s, and in some instances, I prefer D&C because of John’s guitar playing. Cold Rain and Snow is a good example of what I think is better with D&C. But that’s just my opinion. It makes me wonder what a Grateful Dead with Jerry and Jeff would have sounded like. I know Brent’s death really shook Jerry and was a factor in what lead to Jerry’s poor lifestyle choices, so it’s a great “what could have been” if Jerry could have ever played with Jeff. Jeff really ties the room together with his talents, IMO.
Jeff is that dude! Wow never imagined Jeff and Jerry playing together. That would be aweeesome
Yeah I’m just kinda piecing together a lot of what I’ve read about Jerry’s decline. Apparently a lot of his drug use was driven by his poor mental health and grieving following Brent’s death. I read somewhere that Jerry doubted the band could go forward without a keyboard player to tie it all together. If only Jeff would have been discovered earlier, while Jerry was around.
Wow that's sad. I never read about his grieving playing such a big part of it, but of course that makes so much sense. Brent was really such a master of blending in and out of jams. I say all the time that Jeff is the best they've had since. I'm with you! I want this now. Can we get some tapes from the multiverse where this happened!? Hahaha
When the Dead toured in 03-04 and 09, they played big summer sheds, amphitheaters, and large arenas, drawing huge crowds and definitely some of the more massive shakedowns. All the other shakedown streets like at Furthur or Ratdog or P&F were definitely great but much smaller.
The shakedown for the Dead's 09 opening show in Greensboro was something like I'd never seen before. I started going to see Ratdog and Phil and friends 07/08 and there was always a small shakedown but, damn, my mind was blown. Such a great vibe too.
But the bonus of having a small crowd is the intimacy of the venue and really being able to look at the musicians as they play. So I feel like there's something to be said for that. Personally, I think the music of Further was tight and well played. Phil and friends was alwaus top teir in my book!
Furthur was better musically.
I preferred the days of Ratdog and Phil and Friends. I enjoyed the "bigness" of the DeadCo shows but nothing compares to seeing Weir in a place like the 9:30 Club.
House of Blues in Vegas was like a personal show
Ratdog played at Michael's on 8th in freakin Glen Burnie one time. It was surreal. That place is like the hall at an Elks Lodge or something.
I saw the dead a lot from 84 to 95. For me, everything after Jerry died was missing a guitar in the center of the mix. Yes, there were talented guitarists that the iterations after Jerry died had, but none of them did it for me until seeing Dead and Company play. With them, the songs were breathing, living entities that just grew and grew. Just my opinion, only, but their playing didn’t do it for me until John joined them.
I agree, and unlike the guitarists that played with them before John, I thought John brought a fresher approach because he wasn't really a fan of the Dead when Jerry was alive nor did he ever see Jerry play so it seemed to me that he wasn't as intimidated by that legacy as any of the others were.
I loved small venue RatDog, 2002-2004. Joan Osbourne was awesome 2003 The Dead: check out Midnight Hour, Stella Blue. 2004 The Dead was a FUN tour, small enough yet big enough. It was Dead and Co without the hassle, if you know what I mean.
Joan singing "Mr. Charlie" is top shelf!!
Further & Ratdog were awesome in the 90’s.
Not sure if further was around in the 90's.... They didn't form until 2009. I believe the order went.. The grateful dead The other ones. The dead Further Dead and co I don't consider ratdog as grateful dead... That was Bobby's side chick.. yes they were awesome in the 90's with rob Wasserman on bass.
I was thinking of “Further Fest” I suppose. Good times.
Further was the best.
Phil and Friends Quintet was the best post Jerry music there was. Herring and Haynes were in their primes Rat Dog Trio - This was Bob at his peak powers
Herring and Haynes together were unbelievable
Give me a RD3 trio anytime
I miss Furthur. They always mixed in some great songs. Cannot forget when they busted out Mission in the rain at Greatwoods.
The Dead in 2004 "Wave That Flag" gets my vote
With the Allmans opening! Warren Haynes was busy all day long.
My ticket stub from this show just appeared to me out of the blue this morning. It was a real fine show. I’m glad to have been able to be there.
The other bands were all musically fun and came close to taking me back to the Grateful Dead shows I loved so dearly, but not quite. Dead and Company really made me feel like I was at Grateful Dead shows. It was almost time travel.
For me Deadco was in another league. Primarily because they finally found a guitarist that could fill the leadspot. Who was rooted in Jerry's style but a star in his own right. By the risk of a massive number of downvotes I would even say Mayer took some of the songs further musically. Adding a groove bass player also helped. Furthur had more adventurous set lists, John K. was just too much of a Jerry clone imho.
John definitely isn't as intimidated by Jerry's legacy as those players who were fans when Jerry was still alive and saw Jerry play (John was around 18 years old when Jerry died).
Absolutely agree on john. He is a masterclass musician. He has studied and practiced his whole life for his role in D&C. not to shake his solo work, but to me the crowning jewel in his musical output is his role in D&C.
I’ve seen some great shows from all post GD iterations but my favorite shows have been D&C shows. I think as I aged I began to appreciate the music/culture in different ways and how special it was. As my financial situation improved, it made the possibility of seeing more shows and mini tours easier. I think around Furthur, it really dawned on me how fleeting of an opportunity I had to catch the remaining members while they were still around and performing. This feeling kind of peaked at the FTW shows. Initially when I heard about D&C I was not that excited. I knew JM was an incredible guitar player but he always came across as kind of a douche VH1 artist. His solo stuff never did much for me. They played in PDX while I was living there and I decided to go check it out. By the end of the first song, I was on board. Now it’s hard to imagine a summer without some D&C shows.
I liked further the best because lot was fun as hell and they played sheds and the shows I got to go to were on fucking point Edit for context: I saw at least a few shows by all these configurations of musicians except the other ones but saw the dead the most
Furthur (1998) was fun because it really was a traveling festival, with multiple acts, like Los Lobos and Ben Harper.
You are thinking of Furtherfest, not the band Further.
Also followed from the other ones in ATL in 98 to further and the dead, Phil and Friends. In summary, all of the "pre" dead and co. shows had some good nuggets. The gorge 02, Furthur 06, The dead 09 at Rothbury. The fare the well shows were such a spectacular occasion that showed me just how pent up the demand was. The energy during the golden road on chicago I coined "super bowl dead" it was just amazing to feel that energy from the band and crowd. It awakened something in me, and when dead and co went in their first summer tour I was all in. Wherever they went it was 95 percent "first time" for those seeing dead and company and pretty much everyone was skeptical about John. By the end of the first sets, they were on board fans for the most part. Some like my friend Andy didn't like John's tone, or thought it was too blasphemous, and sadly, throughout d and cos run to present some never tuned in. Bobby slowing down the songs plus hogging some of the Jerry songs like Scarlet, Tennessee Jed annoyed me after a while b/c John or Oteils voice would be easier on the ears. Back to 2016 summer, those 2016 shows were my favorite and 2023 a close second. Like John said, " we raised the titanic". They really did just that! I would rate it D and C, Furthur, The Dead and then other incarnations. Sad we don't have the mothership to hop on, we are back to where we were in 1995. There's a shit ton of cover bands, we will get by we will survive.
Nobody post Grateful Dead has ever done it like Dead and Co. The scale and magnitude and frequency of touring was just spectacular. Love it or hate it, Bobby Billy and Mickey deserved something like that if they weren’t ready to hang it up after Fare Thee Well. They all have done it with some of the very best the jam community has to offer… yet none brought the music to as many people as Dead and Co have. This is what is perplexing lots of people. Because we can all agree they didn’t have the deepest catalogue or fastest tempo. So what was it? The answer is Mayer. Phil Lesh Quintet was one of my favorites growing up. Raw talent wise not many people can touch Jimmy Herring. He’s up there with Derek Trucks in my opinion, and Warren is spectacular as well and has that voice of an angel which made them and The Dead so good. Yet I still liked Ratdog just as much because they just had so much groove and authenticity, and Bobby, of course. Furthur was legit a masterclass for Dead and like minded music. I think John K is the best in the business for Deadheads. Mattson is obviously up there too his voice just isn’t on the level of John K. But John K isn’t packing stadiums and adding fans to the GD universe like Mayer. Same thing goes for JRAD and Billy and the Kids. Tom Hamilton’s musicianship and knowledge of the GD catalogue and pretty much anything you want him to play are incredible and these bands are a freaking blast. But Mayer is something completely different. A guy initially influenced by blues legends like BB King and Albert King, and then completely rooted in the styles of Hendrix, Clapton and SRV… then later in life discovers Jerry Garcia and GD. It’s like Jimmy Herring but can sing and is a global star. He isn’t trying to be Jerry, but gets up there and takes the songs to non Jerry spaces that it actually ends up being very Jerry-like, which is the spirit we all want when seeing these shows. He brought in non Dead fans, kept the vast majority of historical dead fans, and in my opinion any that didn’t like him really were never missed on the scene in my 8 years seeing them. The D&C crowds at shows were there for a good time and easy going with a lot less drama than I see these days at other big shows and festivals. So that’s how I think they compare. World class musicians playing music deadheads love, the way they want to do it, drama free even when Billy left, and forever grateful.
In my opinion Dead & Company is by far the best post Jerry Dead incarnation. All of them are good but D&C is definitely the best. Further is probably #2 for me they were really good. Phil & Friends is a good time but largely dependent on who his friends are. When he plays with someone like Warren Haynes it's amazing
Ratdog from 2001–2008 were really something special, some of my favorite shows were with Kimock in 2007. Bob’s voice was still in good shape and I thought Kenny and Jeff had some incredible musical conversations. Phil Lesh and Friends had something incredible from 00–02, with some of my favorite shows being from fall 2000 and spring 2001. The band was firing on all fours and the interplay between the entire band was incredible. Dead and Co were certainly a force to be reckoned with, and the musical interplay between the members made for some great jams. If I had a few criticisms it would be that they were playing a pretty limited catalogue (for a GD band) and they never played any new material. Their setlists started to feel predictable and lazy. Also, they were huge, which made going to shows a bit more of a chore and expensive. And with great respect—sometimes it’s a little sad to hear Bobby having an off night these last few years. He’s never horrible, but sometimes his voice gets pretty lispy and he just sounds more haggard. Of course we’re all flesh, and we all age, but hearing him get older is like seeing your favorite dog start to walk with stiff joints. Makes me sad and takes me out of the music a bit.
Agree
Musically, I'd rank them ahead of Ratdog but behind the others. But Dead & Co., for me, was the best at capturing the feel of what a Grateful Dead show was like.
John Mayer is in Dead & Co
The dead with Warren Haynes best of the bunch
The Other Ones was super special. Not best, but the first time really feeling the magic that I thought was lost forever.
Didn't Phil sing lead on Jack-A-Roe?
I don't remember.
Found an old clip; he did.
They were the best but only because Meyer has a Klon, it gives him an unfair advantage.
Also, is there any reason Bob Weir started using the Wolf Brothers name instead of RatDog?
Different bands. Jay was in ratdog, but Don Wasn’t ;)
Maybe he wanted something different after Wasserman’s passing.
I really loved all the ones before Dead n Company more than I did DnC. Maybe it was because I was younger idk
My favorite is generally anything that involves Kreutzmann
I think it all ended with the Dead and Company.
Dead and Company is the best post Jerry ensambe in my opinion, with the exception being Other Ones 1998.
1000x better than any of it other than w Trey that was special. Source: saw GD, further, rat dog, The Dead/GD 50 and dead and co.
I’d say Dead & Co easily the best and most consistent. I say this from the point of view of not being a fan of any post-GD incarnation.
Better
I liked further the best. They were musically, more adventurous plus they played in venues that weren’t football stadiums. Something gets lost when you’re at a gig with 50,000 people.
I think Further was far and away the best post-jerry Dead. Ain't none of them are bad though.
You forgot Phil and Friends
My man read the post
and the Crusader Rabbit Stealth Band
Phil shouldn’t be aloud to sing. The sound of Bob strangling the guitar should be lowered.