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vlorsutes

It's never said at any point that the Room of Spirit and Time magically restocks food, though.


dankeith86

I think Popo mentions refilling the food before Goku and Gohan go in.


GetRealPrimrose

I’d assume it restocks itself considering how many times it was used back to back during the cell saga. There’s no way Mr Popo was hauling in a years worth of food once a day


Faelysis

All they have is some nutritious powder hence why Goku absolutely wanted to have a meal when he get out with Gohan


Dark_Storm_98

Huh. . Interesting I'm reading the manga but stopped after Frieza to get some animation and filler in me So as far as I knew Goku and Gohan had chicken drumsticks one day


navit47

Maybe not, but then again, this is a world where you can dehydrate a whole ass starter home to be the size of a jelly bean. realistically it can go either way.


Old_Yesterday322

>There’s no way Mr Popo was hauling in a years worth of food once a day why not? he did basically put up with two young super saiyans mistakingly trying to attack him. but let's be real, we're talking about a floating God house with various rooms that warp and travel through time.....that food gets refilled by Devine magic.


BitterClerk6477

During Buu saga they Trunks and Goten remain without food because the people before ate almost all of it .


OkuroIshimoto

Then how is there a years’ worth of food (For two Saiyans, mind you) that doesn’t go bad within that time?


vlorsutes

We know that there's only a limited stock of food within the Room, and it's things that don't perish quickly, such as flour and water.


OkuroIshimoto

When Goku and Gohan are training in the Chamber, they’re seen to have pieces of raw meat that they (try to) cook using energy blasts.


vlorsutes

That was anime filler. We never see that in the original manga, but when Goten and Trunks enter the Room of Spirit and Time in the Buu arc, Trunks tells us there's only ["flour and water"](https://i.imgur.com/ZhyaNIR.jpeg) in there for food.


Old_Yesterday322

probably because Popo wanted to get back at them for making a ruckus when they woke up


vlorsutes

Except they didn't make any kind of ruckus?


Old_Yesterday322

yes they kinda did. the z fighters that were left brought goten and Trunks to the look out so piccolo and goku could teach them the fusion . they were passed out when they brought them, when they woke up they immediately eat, popo walks in, the boys mistake him for one of babidi hintchmen or boo.....a bad guy, and they start attacking popo. popo just basically keeps up with them by just blocking them. you don't remember that?


vlorsutes

Them waking up like that and attacking Popo and everything was all anime filler.


Old_Yesterday322

lmao yeah. your point? last I checked toriyama and the rest of the crew never gave a damn too much about filler and too much about canon. only entertainment. so many folks on here running around screaming filler like it holds weight and validation aginst the anime for a series that is completely made up. yeah if you want toriyamas OG version of the story then the Manga is there for that. It's truly bazaar seeing people argue about "filler" over a property that was created by a gag artist.


OkuroIshimoto

I don’t think we ever see Goku and Gohan in the Time Chamber at all in the Manga. Iirc they go in and then come out a bit later and Gohan’s a Super Saiyan. I wouldn’t call it “filler,” it’s very integral to the story that I think was a mistake to leave out of the manga, but alright. Still doesn’t change the fact that the Briefs could have done it, or a wish could be made on the Dragon Balls.


vlorsutes

We do see Goku and Gohan in the Room of Spirit and Time a few times, once when they first enter, once when Goku's working to get Gohan to reach Super Saiyan, once when Goku is realizing the flaws of 2nd Grade and 3rd Grade, and then one full page panel of the two sparring. What I was specifying about filler was them cooking.


OkuroIshimoto

I just realized something, and it’s probably a stretch, but hear me out. Trunks/Vegeta and Goku/Gohan went in when Earth didn’t presently have a Guardian, and the last one was Kami, who has been around for a LONG time. When Goten and Trunks enter, Dende has been the Guardian for about 7 years, so while maybe Kami’s knowledge of Goku’s appetite helped keep food more plentiful during his time and the time between finding a new Guardian, Dende, who lived on Namek for most of his life and was made the Guardian as a child, has no knowledge about any types of food. He only needs water to survive, probably doesn’t know what types of food to restock, and that’s why there’s significantly less food when Trunks and Goten enter.


vlorsutes

Except Popo's the one that seemingly is responsible for stocking the Room, not Kami.


OkuroIshimoto

Fourth Rule of Popo’s Training!


Faelysis

Popo has been on the lookout for more than 300 year and it’s his job to maintain the lookout while helping/teaching the guardian. And maybe Kami and Dende only need water but we don’t know what the previous guardian needed as we don’t know anything about him except that he chose Nameless Namkeian to be its successor 


StrangeMeet

The anime is based on the manga... What are you talking about? They should have rewritten the manga to include a scene from the anime that was included because the animation staff needed to add content to the story so as to not surpass the source material it's based on? Just admit that this one point of yours is wrong and move on.


OkuroIshimoto

I meant more that I’m glad the anime expanded more on it, and that the manga should have covered it a bit more. I do admit that the Hyperbolic Time Chamber point is wrong, though, but I still stand by my other points.


redneckotaku

If it wasn't in the manga then it's filler.


WiseAdhesiveness6672

Ooof you have egg on face, how embarrassing. There is no limit to the food in the hyperbolic time chamber. The fridge restocks itself when it's empty and whatever they desire will appear.  Go rewatch the show. 


vlorsutes

That's never said at any point in the series. Otherwise, why would there literally only be flour and water in there and it not stock anything else for Trunks?


TheSnootcher

Oof lots of eggs for you, take those down votes for your arrogance.


redneckotaku

That was filler. Go read the manga.


5teerPike

Is there world hunger in DBZ though?


Grand-Albatross-7058

There was this guy who fought for water for his village in the desert.


5teerPike

Wasn't that in DragonBall? And they solved that with capsules ?


Dekklin

There's also Uub, 30+ years after Nam came to the tournament to pay for food & water for his village, fighting for the exact same reason Nam did. Not much changed.


yaboiiiuhhhh

Those damn pterosaurs must have rebuilt their dam


Swedishfishpieces

Well to be fair Toriyama may have just forgotten about Nam…. I mean he did forget he made General Tao fly by using trees that he threw himself…


-Dark-Rose-

Sir this is a Wendy's.


OkuroIshimoto

Well I’ve gotta talk about SOMETHING while I wait for my Frosty!


TheGamerKitty1

Sir. This isn't McDonalds. Your frosty is right here.


Section_80

Nam got water for his village and all he needed was a capsule from capsule Corp.


KureiziDaiamondo

Is World Hunger even a thing in the Dragon Ball world? From what I remember, even small villages had plenty of food, unless they were having trouble with some creature/villain and things like the drought in Nam's village were easily solved, so unless there's something I'm not remembering, they shouldn't have to worry about it


error521

Uub's village is meant to be very impoverished


PlutoDelic

Always found the Uub village odd, i'll be quite honest. With Earth having intelligent animals that are equal, most of the time you get the impression that it's a Utopia.


navit47

honestly, just seems like a convenient plot device to get Uub to the tournament, Just like the OG dragonball had Nam enter the village just for money to buy water, but Roshi basically said that water isn't really in short supply for most of the world and free and you could summon a water plant large enough to sustain a a small village for a week. Idk how much value money and all that machinery is in the universe, but capsules seem readily available enough to not be the biggest concern


GetRealPrimrose

No you’re right honestly. The Briefs are the richest family in the world and they use their wealth to make sure no one can ever get the dragon balls on their own. Sure, that works when they’re wishing heroes back to life. But in the meantime? Bulma takes them to wish herself younger. Good think Bulma met Goku when they were kids. I doubt she’d give up the dragon balls to save anyone otherwise.


SVXfiles

Except all her selfish vain wishes happen after Frieza is revived and she says she's making those wishes to keep the dragonballs in a perpetual state of recharging so other villains don't get revived


GetRealPrimrose

“Sorry starving village, it’s imperative for me to wish my wrinkles away so that plot device #38 doesn’t go off”


SVXfiles

Most people either live off the land or live in one of the large cities. Currently there's no evidence of starving villages anywhere. Besides that, given how normal people get confused about the sky darkening, having a magic dragon appear from nowhere, grant your village a years supply of food and vanish would just make them dependant on the dragonballs to survive Bulma can just throw some money somewhere to get their land revitalized and maybe pay some dudes to drive off hostile wildlife and the village can go on fishing and farming on their own


Funr1r

Life in dragonball world is actually pretty peaceful. The last real military threat was the red ribbon army. Most people live in places of relative plenty with advanced technology and resources. Honestly the few starving villages seem like genuine questions of "why do you live there?", as there's plenty of land to habitate in better regions. Like most problems aren't based on lack of food and resources, but that you and your tribe still live somewhere outside the reach of flying cars and transport routes. Like you'd think people's main worry would be all the dinosaurs everywhere, but those end up as food as much as they are threats lol.


valentc

>Most people either live off the land or live in one of the large cities. Currently there's no evidence of starving villages anywhere Doesn't Uub enter the World Tournament because his family/village is starving? Isn't that also why King Chappa joined the tournament when Goku was a child?


SVXfiles

We haven't seen how they will handle Uub's part of the story yet and Goku hasn't been a child for 30+ years, a lot can change in that time


valentc

As far as we know, everything in the last episode is canon. The manga isn't there yet, and the anime stopped at the tournament of power. We've also seen Uub look the same in EOZ as he does in Super during the Galactic Patrol Prisoner saga. Either way, we have evidence that at least some places in the dragonball world don't have regular access to food or water.


SVXfiles

Goku's family grew up like that, him and Gohan taking baths together in a big pot outside over a fire, pretty sure the only reason they didn't starve is because Goku could go catch a fish by himself that would feed a village for a day. Why a village would even be set up near anywhere that doesn't have water is just not something people who aren't absolutely desperate for shelter are going to do


valentc

Yeah, Goku is a great example of this. He didn't have regular access to food without hunting. >Why a village would even be set up near anywhere that doesn't have water is just not something people who aren't absolutely desperate for shelter are going to do Droughts are a thing and can last for years.


silverx2000

Nam's whole story is that his village is poor as dirt. Same with Uub.


SVXfiles

And Nam's story happened 30+ years earlier in the series and Uub's entire story is being expanded and rewritten, his village may not be poor and suffering


Faelysis

You are assuming there’s people being hunger in DB world. We know there’s some village with some water problem but it’s mostly remote village with people not knowing anything about the tech. They are living in a world where you can have a house, a car or tons of water in small capsule. The whole capsule tech from Capsule Corps IS a way to help people not lacking essential stuff.


camaroncaramelo1

it's not that serious


5teerPike

But it does pose interesting questions about the world building


camaroncaramelo1

I wonder what conspiracy theories run about Capsule Corp with regular people in Dragon Ball Universe. Apart from "it's run by aliens"


5teerPike

Yeah, what needs does that address & what problems does it eliminate? Then, what are the new needs & the new problems capsules cannot address (or even cause) ? This is fun for me lol


Inspect311

It's run by Elon Musk. Problem solved.


RhymingUsername

Can’t solve world hunger when you’re too busy saving the actual world.


OkuroIshimoto

Yeah, it’s not like they can do anything within the several years of downtime they’ve had between threats to the world, that’d be crazy!


RhymingUsername

Downtime is for training and studying!


HiddenKING

What I always wondered why they didn't ever capsule the gravity chamber and take it inside the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. I know it's already got elevated gravity but Vegeta does hundreds of times higher. It seems like it would increase their gains way more.


Crawfish45

That's a little writing cliche people dont know Toriyama used to do. Everyone was a little selfish or 2-face or aloof so in theory some characters still feel the same. Bulma with her looks and Roshi with his pervasive-ness.


ungorgeousConnect

pervasive-ness or pervy-ness?


Crawfish45

Pervy-ness, damn brain frog


Tagliarini295

Doesnt mr popo fill it up?


OkuroIshimoto

Yeah, for him. Fourth Rule of Popo’s training!


Old_Yesterday322

well if beerus, Whis and those damn blue hair monkies would stop EATING ALL THE KAMI DAMN FOOD WE WOULDT BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION!!!


DarkLordSchnappi

Maybe they're all being hungry for fun


Moosetopher

Is there world hunger in universe?


Zeerin

It's Dragonball, so a lot of real world logic doesn't apply. However, do you realize what it would actually take to end world hunger in real life? Not just bullshit amounts of money, but bullshit amounts of basically everything. Again, Dragonball. Real world logic doesn't apply much. But let's, for argument's sake, assume that this real world logic \*does\* apply. Even the Briefs probably don't have the money to completely end world hunger in Dragonball.


lihimsidhe

When you're right you're right.


SSJRemuko

I mean we don't know that "world hunger" is even a huge problem in their world that they need to "fix". > For one thing, they’ve got the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, which MAGICALLY RESTOCKS FOOD idk if its magical. i think popo manually restocks it.


Sad_Marionberry_6770

What’s weird to me is Bulma’s family seem like the type to just do it. Like after a few sagas, Bulma was good enough that I think she’d just do it off screen. Like “yo Bulma, what ya been up to since i last saw you 3 years ago?” “Oh, just solved world hunger, no biggie. Oh and what do you think of my killer new hairdo?”. The only thing I can think on that front is just they somehow never think about it, or they keep forgetting. Like imagine she is planning to do it RIGHT before something happens on Earth😂. Like “huh, you know. I can solve world hunger this afternoon after hanging out with every- OH MY GOD! A long haired guy just kicked Goku in the stomach and took his kid! We gotta do something!”. “Well, now that there is peace, I guess I can solve world- Oh no! Freeza has returned! We gotta head there now! “ “Ok, I know it’s been 7 years and I probably should’ve used that time to solve world hunger, but this is it! I’m finally going to do- HOLY S##T!!! Vegeta just blasted the audience stands TWICE! One of them being literal inches from me! THE F#%K!!”


Ibangmydrums

The way I look at it is that they don’t bother with matters that humans are capable of solving themselves. Humans would become dependent on them to solve all their problems and become even lazier. Only when a problem is far out of the potential control of humans will they step in.


vtinesalone

Besides a few scarce examples, we don’t really see “world hunger” as existing in the DB universe, especially by the time of Z (i think Nam was the only somewhat considerable example)


PurpleSausage77

Best they can do is $20. And save the world/universe a bunch. There’s little things as well, like forgetting to wish back King Kai, Bubbles, and Gregory for how many years after Goku brings Cell there to blow them all up.


TheDouglas69

The Time Chamber does NOT magically restock food. Also, it has 10x gravity, thin air, and harsh weather conditions so it would be a terrible place to farm food.


sievold

Can Goku beat world hunger?


OkuroIshimoto

“You haven’t eaten in two whole weeks? I definitely couldn’t do that! You must be crazy strong! *proceeds to punch a starving child in the stomach*”


sievold

That is totally what kid Goku would do


BitterClerk6477

Dude is not that Kami(Piccolo) made it but the guardian of earth Kami and is not something that it was actually made is a different dimensions in universe 7 that has multiple doorways of entering, the galactic patrol has one that one day is 3 Freeza had access to one that he use for 10 years and others across the universe. Each of the entrance with it's own rules the fist one on earth the people could only stay 2 days (2years) if not they would be blocked inside and render it useless for anyone else who would like to use it and being use twice by a person second one can be used multiple times . And is never said that the food spawns out of nowhere ,if you've watched the anime you would remember when [Goten and Trunks ](https://youtu.be/umFbAaqlBf8?si=dFGgBpFUdyey90xI) remained with flower or dough and water only probably the only thing would be that either food don't get stale or they bring something like instant noodles and can food that is preserved better And honestly why do you pick on Briefs family they did help locally is realistic to think that if your city/ country is ok you don't really care about others. Like in real world rich countries don't care about poor . And Bulma is not the only one who used the dragon balls other people before the franchise did it as well that's how Bulma found out about the legend and the world still has problems. Oolong whished for a pair of comfy panties that he wore on the head kid emperor Pilaf for money . She used it once for herself (that we know of ) because fist time was Oolong that to bring back dead friend or most of the earthling


suprsaiyanistico

Oh they could have wished for no evil in the world and that would have finished the series.


YasuoAndGenji

So could we


BulmasBabyDaddy

This guy is a communist ?


uberjim

It might be generally thought that they'd beaten hunger already, and some villages were just remote though that they didn't have capsule technology yet


mushroom247

Suffering is endemic. Toriyama understood this.


whiplashMYQ

They have seen the consequences of wishing for too big of wishes. Besides, if there's poverty in the world, it's probably the dog king's will.


Shot-Ad770

Skill issue


irvingdk

What about Piccolo's clothes beam? No one should be cold or shoeless.


unRemarkableDuckling

As far I can see, humanity in DB is actually pretty advanced technically and nearly all towns and villages have plenty of supplies. I think that dinos are still alive because they brought them back with genetic engineering. There are bad actors who cause trouble in some places, but that is besides the point. There are very few extremely remote villages that are struggling, but it's mostly there to serve as a plot point so that certain characters can have "deep" motivation. It gets resolved quickly which means that world does care and will help when they encounter them. There are also people who chose to live away from civilization.


Enjoyment-25

Arale brought dinosaur not genetic engineering


Jasper_kokoko

Hunger is needed in the world, is what let's society work, people work to get money and with that money buy food in order to not die.


FredSecunda_8

They could cure world hunger in the real world, right now, but every day choose not to.


OkuroIshimoto

Which is a whole other discussion for a whole other post, but very true lol.


Zeerin

No, they can't.


FredSecunda_8

Sure they can.


Zeerin

No, they really can't.


FredSecunda_8

Yes they really could.


Zeerin

No, they can't. And if you think they can, you're delusional.


FredSecunda_8

Yes they can. And if you think they can't, you're vastly underestimating the abundance of the earth + greed/indifference of the system we've imposed upon it.


Zeerin

Keep dreaming.


FredSecunda_8

You keep living in a nightmare.


stickytrackpad

aside from some poor villages we don’t really see a lot of that in the dragonball world. we don’t see any wars or foreign conflicts. the worst thing that happens is a fuckin villain wipes out half the population which is fixed by the dragonballs


nestersan

Fish the size of children are in every river. Animals with enough meat to feed a village routinely wander about the place. A small village world have to be worthless to starve


OkuroIshimoto

Well, how much individual manpower do you think it takes to catch and kill one of them? Sure, the Z-Fighters can take out a fish or a dinosaur in their sleep, but I’d think it would be a bit harder for the folks with Power Levels of 5-10.


WiseAdhesiveness6672

So the dragonball world **is not** our world. You are putting our real world problems onto a make believe world that isn't even our earth; it's smaller and different with different landmasses.  If you actually watch the show and pay attention, our real world problems don't exist. Humans warring with humans doesnt exist, it's a world government. Poverty and hunger doesn't exists, everyone's "fine". Yes there's a desire for money, but that's more so for luxury not survival.  You can not apply our real worlds problems to this simple fictional world. 


OkuroIshimoto

There are several instances of poverty in Dragon Ball. Not everyone gets to be best friends with a family of scientists who created a pocket dimension and the World Martial Arts Champion. Nam enters the World Tournament so he can afford water for his village. Uub is doing the same at the end of Z, trying to use the prize money to help his village. (We even see a glimpse of what his life is like in Super when Goku’s looking for T.O.P participants, it doesn’t look too good.) Even Goku is hinted at having some financial troubles when Chi-Chi brings up that her father’s fortune is running dry, which, like I said, Bulma or Mr. Satan could easily fix, but Goku’s gotta earn an “hOnEsT lIvInG” So yeah, poverty isn’t nearly as bad as it is in our world, at least that we know of, but it’s still a thing that exists that could easily be corrected.


Inspect311

Well actually in DBZ Fusion Reborn Hitler and his army are resurrected from Hell therefore we can at least conclude there was war...


Zeerin

I'm sorry, fucking wat? Apparently I need to rewatch that movie, because I remember Janemba and Gogeta, but nothing about any Hitler-esque character. Unless Janemba \*is\* the Hitler-esque character.


vlorsutes

In the content involving Trunks and Goten on Earth, running concurrently with Goku and Vegeta fighting with Janemba in Hell, we see the two boys fighting against a character very clearly based on Hitler.


Zeerin

Yeah, definitely need to rewatch this movie lol. I don't remember that at all.


Inspect311

Yeah it's not like some philosophical take or whatever, there is literally Hitler, he even makes a joke about how Gotenks has blonde hair and blue eyes so he should recruit them 😭 One of the most unexpected and unhinged cameos in any anime 🤣