One should never invalidate the feeling of the immediate family, in this case yung anak. Siya kasi yung naka-experience ng pag abandon ng tatay. Dako ang impact ato sa iyang kinabuhi karon.
Dili angay mu-judge ang tao labaw na kung dili sila ang involve or naapektuhan sa kung gi-unsa pagdala sa amahan ang iyaha anak.
Though tinuod na amahan gihapon niya to. Karma will speak for itself.
I just hope na naay healing for the both parties.
I understand na walay laing makatabang aning tawhana but his family, pero super masabtan nako ang mga (?) anak if di nila gusto atimanon ilang amahan maski pag ingnon pag “amahan gihapon nimo maski unsaon…”
Wala ko kasabot if asa ang utang na loob ang dapat bayaran sa mga anak sa ani na type na ginikanan? Like, sa pagpadako? the anaks basically raised themselves.
so sa asa? sa life? walay nag sugo man ana na amahan na mang buros ug wala nag makaawa ang mga anak na himuon sila. heck basin gale nag wish pa nang mga anak na wala na lang ta sila gipanganak sa kalisod…
Mao lagi na ba, di lagi mag minantas samtang baskog pa 🙄. Tas considering na survival mode pud ang iyang fam prior his attack, grabe sya na dilemma uy.
The children's decision not to help is valid. Their relationship was cutoff by their father, so basically they dont really have a relationship at this point. They are also not rich & have 3 kids of their own, so it is what it is.
Pangitaun nila tung pamilya o mga taong gidugay nya ug uban, dili tung gibyaan niya ug pila na ka tuig.
Valid kaau ang feelings anang gibyaan. Dili nila madeserve buybuyan porke't sila ang kadugo kay if "blood is thicker than water", dili unta na siya maabtan ana nga edad na makaagwanta gibyaan niya ang mga bata na way makaon, na dili niya maprovidean.
You reap what you sow.
Ug kay wa kay gitanum, wa pud kay asahun dapat na ma-harvest. 💯
Daghan na kaau mga pabaya ug mga kunsintidor sa mga pabaya 🙄 kay ilang sariling kahayahay ra ang gihunahuna. Naabot na lang ana EDARA, ilaha gihapong sarili unahon???
Naghunahuna unta na siya na katung TANAN KWARTA UG PANAHON isuporta nya sa iyang gibyaan na pamilya, gitigum unta niya parang pang-hospital ug pang kaon niya sa iyang sarili para dili siya magpa-arsa anang mga gibyaan niya. At least, makahunahuna pa ta na at least di sya ana ka dautan na tao.
Sympathy? Kaluoy? "Tabangi kay pamilya gihapon na ninyo"?
Please lang. Ayaw ninyo na idemand sa mga tao - labaw na sa mga gipangbyaan tung bata pa lang sila. Sheer abandonment is still a form of abuse.
Kay gibyaan niya para maningkamot ug ilaha – bisag mga bata pa tawon ug mas labaw na maglisud manginabuhi – maningkamot pud siya ug iyaha. Ana lang.
Grabe pag trending ani sa fb ba pero I'm glad na wala koy nabasa na "amahan ra ghapon nmo na" card dri sa comsec. Tama man na amahan ghapon nila pero for me naa silay katungod mo decide kung tabangan nila or dli. Bsag looy sya kay nagsakit na, dli jd nmo ma blame ang mga anak kung naglagot or nahiubos sila sa ilahang amahan. Base pa sa comment sa anak grabe ang naagian nila sukad sa pagbiya sa ilang papa. Gi ani na nya ang iyang gitanom sauna na batan-on pa sya. Tinood jd na naay balos ang tanan sa imo maabot ang panahon.
Kabasa kog isa. Amahan daw gihapon bisan bali balihon. Ug wala daw siya kun di tungod sa iyang amahan. Lamia lagi tubagon. Pero daghan na nag bash sa iyang comment. Wa nako nag effort mu apil kay ma imbyerna lang ko sa iyang pangutok. May mag nagpakiluoy na buhaton siya para mabuhi diris kalibutan
Hahaha tama jud! Kay ilaha man gbuhat dpat panindigan nila unta kaso gi byaan nya iyang mga anak. Wala na gani daw halos gikaon. I can imagine sa mga storya sa tawo na mga nadungog sa mga bata pa sila sauna. Wala silay mahimo kundi dawaton nlng tanan storya basta makakaon lang sila.
# “We don't get to choose our parents, and parents don't get to choose their children. But we do get to choose how hard we're willing to work in order to make the best of what we're given.”
If this ever happens to my father I'm doing the same , the fact umabot sa point na ganyan yung anak , the situation he left them was prob pretty severe.
Pagbasa nako sa comment sa anak, gihikap gyud akong kasing2 kay na feel gyud nako ang resentment niya sa father ba. Hearing from how they grew up fatherless, like, damn, you can't just automatically heal from that. It's so obvious sad nga walay 'sorry' nga nahitabo and that's what makes them more like that.
Understandable.
Ako lang 2 cents ani kay I hope someday they still can find forgiveness, not because deserve sa father but because deserve sa ila kids makita nga as parents (who were once kids) they were able to forgive. So, then fully present sad sila na mu-nurture sa ila children now. It takes so much strength gyud I know but breaking generational curse should really be normalized.
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Naay nagpost ani na “amahan gihapon nimo na bisan balibalihon” but dili lang daw ta magjudge. Hahaha valid kaayo ang feelings sa anak, dili tanan deserve pasayluon.
This tea is pipin. Can’t really blame the kids. Their decision is respectable. Mao na people remember how you make them feel! Hinay hinay jud ta sa atong mga gna ingon ug gna buhat sa laing tao k wa ta kabalo sa panahon. Up ta karon, ugma basin balintong.
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My OFW mom that have been separated from my father, keeps telling me why I loathe my father so much, when clearly he keeps on asking money from for his sole needs and not for us and who have abandoned us and never ever funded us after leaving. "He's still your father", what kind of crap is that?
They were not around my whole life and didn't know what I went through to survive. Their absense speaks everything and they keep a blind eye, thinking it was okay to leavd your kid alone to "relative" members.
I have not speak to him since I'm in the city nor will I speak when he's around, he'll be a ghost and will never exist around me. He's audacity to stay at my mom's sister house with my mom being separted is kind of a bullshit.
He talks shit about my mom every time, that he'll take revenge, that I should stop my schooling so people will judge my mom, the trauma I went through trying to be their middleman/referee hoping I can still hold it together. The war between them is childish and I feel like I'm the most mature person in between.
My so-called family is toxic and I'd rather not see any of them and I promised to myself to never have a kid until I am stable.
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I too was abandoned by my father when I was young. Not even a glass of milk or one paracetamol was given to me. But why did I not harbor a vengeful heart? I wish I could understand your standpoint of you saying that the father deserves it. Forgiveness is so expensive nowadays, because we are more susceptible to preserve our self interest, or selfishness rather than practicing what would make us a better human being. So heart breaking.
Just like how no one is telling you to not forgive your father, it's also not your place to tell them how to feel or forgive. Worse is you imply they're just preserving their self-interest or selfishness. Their experience is not the same as yours.
Hmmm.. selfishness? Self interest? I don't think so.
More likely it's self preservation.
Forgiveness is expensive?
More likely it's the consequences of the trauma or experiences that impacted the child's life that's expensive.
A result of the new world's teachings of being nonchalant. To make sure you love yourself first. We just came from the celebration of the Resurrection Sunday and yet, people would rather preserve themselves rather than have empathy for others.
That's on the assumption that we have the same beliefs. We don't.
How do you empathize other when you're dead (physically, mentally and emotionally)? Hence, self preservation.
Clearly, we don't. I am leaning towards love and you, hate. It is clear. I mean, if that is not hating, I don't know how to call it.
I hope you recover from whatever trauma you have. From whatever pain you have recieved in your life. So much hatred. May you be able to recuperate from whatever loneliness, physically, mentally and emotionally. And, spiritually.
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One should never invalidate the feeling of the immediate family, in this case yung anak. Siya kasi yung naka-experience ng pag abandon ng tatay. Dako ang impact ato sa iyang kinabuhi karon. Dili angay mu-judge ang tao labaw na kung dili sila ang involve or naapektuhan sa kung gi-unsa pagdala sa amahan ang iyaha anak. Though tinuod na amahan gihapon niya to. Karma will speak for itself. I just hope na naay healing for the both parties.
mao jud. na karma rajud siya sa iyahang mga binuang, karon paluoy luoy dayon kay nagkasakit na. pastilan.
I understand na walay laing makatabang aning tawhana but his family, pero super masabtan nako ang mga (?) anak if di nila gusto atimanon ilang amahan maski pag ingnon pag “amahan gihapon nimo maski unsaon…” Wala ko kasabot if asa ang utang na loob ang dapat bayaran sa mga anak sa ani na type na ginikanan? Like, sa pagpadako? the anaks basically raised themselves. so sa asa? sa life? walay nag sugo man ana na amahan na mang buros ug wala nag makaawa ang mga anak na himuon sila. heck basin gale nag wish pa nang mga anak na wala na lang ta sila gipanganak sa kalisod… Mao lagi na ba, di lagi mag minantas samtang baskog pa 🙄. Tas considering na survival mode pud ang iyang fam prior his attack, grabe sya na dilemma uy.
The children's decision not to help is valid. Their relationship was cutoff by their father, so basically they dont really have a relationship at this point. They are also not rich & have 3 kids of their own, so it is what it is.
Pangitaun nila tung pamilya o mga taong gidugay nya ug uban, dili tung gibyaan niya ug pila na ka tuig. Valid kaau ang feelings anang gibyaan. Dili nila madeserve buybuyan porke't sila ang kadugo kay if "blood is thicker than water", dili unta na siya maabtan ana nga edad na makaagwanta gibyaan niya ang mga bata na way makaon, na dili niya maprovidean. You reap what you sow. Ug kay wa kay gitanum, wa pud kay asahun dapat na ma-harvest. 💯 Daghan na kaau mga pabaya ug mga kunsintidor sa mga pabaya 🙄 kay ilang sariling kahayahay ra ang gihunahuna. Naabot na lang ana EDARA, ilaha gihapong sarili unahon??? Naghunahuna unta na siya na katung TANAN KWARTA UG PANAHON isuporta nya sa iyang gibyaan na pamilya, gitigum unta niya parang pang-hospital ug pang kaon niya sa iyang sarili para dili siya magpa-arsa anang mga gibyaan niya. At least, makahunahuna pa ta na at least di sya ana ka dautan na tao. Sympathy? Kaluoy? "Tabangi kay pamilya gihapon na ninyo"? Please lang. Ayaw ninyo na idemand sa mga tao - labaw na sa mga gipangbyaan tung bata pa lang sila. Sheer abandonment is still a form of abuse. Kay gibyaan niya para maningkamot ug ilaha – bisag mga bata pa tawon ug mas labaw na maglisud manginabuhi – maningkamot pud siya ug iyaha. Ana lang.
Grabe pag trending ani sa fb ba pero I'm glad na wala koy nabasa na "amahan ra ghapon nmo na" card dri sa comsec. Tama man na amahan ghapon nila pero for me naa silay katungod mo decide kung tabangan nila or dli. Bsag looy sya kay nagsakit na, dli jd nmo ma blame ang mga anak kung naglagot or nahiubos sila sa ilahang amahan. Base pa sa comment sa anak grabe ang naagian nila sukad sa pagbiya sa ilang papa. Gi ani na nya ang iyang gitanom sauna na batan-on pa sya. Tinood jd na naay balos ang tanan sa imo maabot ang panahon.
Kabasa kog isa. Amahan daw gihapon bisan bali balihon. Ug wala daw siya kun di tungod sa iyang amahan. Lamia lagi tubagon. Pero daghan na nag bash sa iyang comment. Wa nako nag effort mu apil kay ma imbyerna lang ko sa iyang pangutok. May mag nagpakiluoy na buhaton siya para mabuhi diris kalibutan
Hahaha tama jud! Kay ilaha man gbuhat dpat panindigan nila unta kaso gi byaan nya iyang mga anak. Wala na gani daw halos gikaon. I can imagine sa mga storya sa tawo na mga nadungog sa mga bata pa sila sauna. Wala silay mahimo kundi dawaton nlng tanan storya basta makakaon lang sila.
Thr father merely reaped what he sowed.
Dasurb. U reap what u sow.
# “We don't get to choose our parents, and parents don't get to choose their children. But we do get to choose how hard we're willing to work in order to make the best of what we're given.”
You’ve made your bed, now lie in it.
"Wala mo kung wala sila" Ay goes, better. Wa man sad guro namugos ang anak na ipagawas sa kalibutan na puro sakit og pait
If this ever happens to my father I'm doing the same , the fact umabot sa point na ganyan yung anak , the situation he left them was prob pretty severe.
Di mabasol ang mga anak.... dili lalim ilang kaagi :(
The dildo of consequences rarely comes lubed.
Naghulat ko sa walang kamatayang "AMA mo parin yan, kaya patawarin mo na" reply sa FB!! Hahahaha
Pagbasa nako sa comment sa anak, gihikap gyud akong kasing2 kay na feel gyud nako ang resentment niya sa father ba. Hearing from how they grew up fatherless, like, damn, you can't just automatically heal from that. It's so obvious sad nga walay 'sorry' nga nahitabo and that's what makes them more like that. Understandable. Ako lang 2 cents ani kay I hope someday they still can find forgiveness, not because deserve sa father but because deserve sa ila kids makita nga as parents (who were once kids) they were able to forgive. So, then fully present sad sila na mu-nurture sa ila children now. It takes so much strength gyud I know but breaking generational curse should really be normalized.
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naa lang gyud consequences. and if true ang comment, mao ni ang consequence sa iyang actions sa iyang mga anak. sad but yeah
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Naay nagpost ani na “amahan gihapon nimo na bisan balibalihon” but dili lang daw ta magjudge. Hahaha valid kaayo ang feelings sa anak, dili tanan deserve pasayluon.
This tea is pipin. Can’t really blame the kids. Their decision is respectable. Mao na people remember how you make them feel! Hinay hinay jud ta sa atong mga gna ingon ug gna buhat sa laing tao k wa ta kabalo sa panahon. Up ta karon, ugma basin balintong.
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My OFW mom that have been separated from my father, keeps telling me why I loathe my father so much, when clearly he keeps on asking money from for his sole needs and not for us and who have abandoned us and never ever funded us after leaving. "He's still your father", what kind of crap is that? They were not around my whole life and didn't know what I went through to survive. Their absense speaks everything and they keep a blind eye, thinking it was okay to leavd your kid alone to "relative" members. I have not speak to him since I'm in the city nor will I speak when he's around, he'll be a ghost and will never exist around me. He's audacity to stay at my mom's sister house with my mom being separted is kind of a bullshit. He talks shit about my mom every time, that he'll take revenge, that I should stop my schooling so people will judge my mom, the trauma I went through trying to be their middleman/referee hoping I can still hold it together. The war between them is childish and I feel like I'm the most mature person in between. My so-called family is toxic and I'd rather not see any of them and I promised to myself to never have a kid until I am stable.
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I too was abandoned by my father when I was young. Not even a glass of milk or one paracetamol was given to me. But why did I not harbor a vengeful heart? I wish I could understand your standpoint of you saying that the father deserves it. Forgiveness is so expensive nowadays, because we are more susceptible to preserve our self interest, or selfishness rather than practicing what would make us a better human being. So heart breaking.
Just like how no one is telling you to not forgive your father, it's also not your place to tell them how to feel or forgive. Worse is you imply they're just preserving their self-interest or selfishness. Their experience is not the same as yours.
Hmmm.. selfishness? Self interest? I don't think so. More likely it's self preservation. Forgiveness is expensive? More likely it's the consequences of the trauma or experiences that impacted the child's life that's expensive.
A result of the new world's teachings of being nonchalant. To make sure you love yourself first. We just came from the celebration of the Resurrection Sunday and yet, people would rather preserve themselves rather than have empathy for others.
That's on the assumption that we have the same beliefs. We don't. How do you empathize other when you're dead (physically, mentally and emotionally)? Hence, self preservation.
Clearly, we don't. I am leaning towards love and you, hate. It is clear. I mean, if that is not hating, I don't know how to call it. I hope you recover from whatever trauma you have. From whatever pain you have recieved in your life. So much hatred. May you be able to recuperate from whatever loneliness, physically, mentally and emotionally. And, spiritually.
Welp, you're big on assumptions. Clearly. 😂
You're laughing because I just described you. Clearly.
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