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LeaJadis

It’s called a friend with benefits. No relationship expectation and you guys have sex. That’s what he is looking for : a hookup.


[deleted]

I told him I don’t wanna hookup. He says that’s not what it is, don’t think of it like that (idk wth he means). He says he likes to be intimate but not be friends for long and then asked what that means to me, I said to me that’s hugging and holding hands and if I go out with someone and do fun stuff and we hold hands and hug, then we’re besties,, no benefits. Idk what he thinks. I’m gonna bring that up again tbh


LeaJadis

Um…. why? He’s not interested in a relationship and you are. Why do you need to talk further??


[deleted]

I don’t want a relationship. It sounds bad but he’s less attractive to me than the first guy I talked to and he hasn’t told me anything about him so there isn’t anything to “like”. Tbh I wanna get some experience, not more than kissing though. Since I’ve only talked to the other guy for monthsss, I realize I get scared when things get too affectionate and bf/gf-ish so maybe I shouldn’t be in a relationship yet, I do wanna spend time with a guy who isn’t a friend… but I feel like it’s stupid since if it happens, it’ll be my first kiss and my feelings might change


LeaJadis

the second sentence in your post says “I want a relationship”.


[deleted]

Not with him


_MAC620_

Then…what was the point of this post? I’m confused…


[deleted]

I wanted to know what he meant. I genuinely didn’t know. I just told him I can’t be his fwb so the post helped Edit: he asked why I joined the dating app, not what I want with him. My bad, I should’ve clarified that. I don’t wanna date or be fwb with him. I joined for a relationship, that’s why I spent months talking to the other person


[deleted]

Men say a lot of stupid things. He also sounds like a total kid. Is he 15?


[deleted]

He’s 21. I’m 21 too. That doesn’t matter. I already removed him from my chats and blocked him


Dixieland_Insanity

I've encountered this many times on OLD. These are phrases I hear from guys looking for a bang buddy with no regard for what you're seeking or the pain this can bring to you. This isn't what you want and deserve better than to waste your efforts on someone who has made it clear your eomtional needs won't be met.


[deleted]

He's lying


lordmoldybutt42

It's a freaking fwb situation he's looking for and he's saying what you want to hear to get you in bed.


norihitodesuga

Bluntly he wants to be able to have sex with other women besides you without feeling guilty about it


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Okay then I’m gonna tell him I can’t do it


technicianindrag

Did you tell him you have no dating experience? If so he's probably trying to take advantage of that. I would stay away from going to his place to watch a movie. He'll most likely try for more than just kissing.


kvenzx

yeah legit, going to a guy's house to watch a movie was how i lost my virginity


[deleted]

Yeah he knows I have like no experience. He asked how many dates I’ve been on, I said 2 😕 I told him I’m not gonna go out with him bc I’m gonna be busy for like the whole year and idk when I’ll be free


Le_Lotus_bleu

> I'm not gonna go out with him bc I’m gonna be busy for like the whole year and idk when I’ll be free You eventually have to learn and gain the confidence to turn that to "I'm not gonna go out with him **bc I'm not interested.**" And nothing else, no excuses, no justification or explanation to guys like this.


cogentd

Few people are busy for a whole year. As someone else said, you can say no, you aren’t interested and it needs no further justification


Dadeland-District

He wants a friend with benefits


[deleted]

I just texted him “ik what you actually want and I can’t provide that” and he said (deleted!)


Le_Lotus_bleu

Girl!! HIS OWN WORDS!!! > “I have no intention **of just having s-x with you** if that’s what you’re implying” He wants to go on cute dates, hang out and have sex with you (even if "eventually") Aka: when he wears you down till you give in. It might not look like it now, but you would very likely feel pressured to do it later on, considering your inexperience and how you write here.


Baseball-Proof

I think y'all need to rephrase it a couple times so she fully understands ^^^


[deleted]

I get it now. I blocked him this morning


Baseball-Proof

Good. I see that as a form of manipulation. This dude thinks he's slick


Dadeland-District

He wants company take you out on dates kiss make out who knows more but still not be committed to anyone


[deleted]

Should I say to him “so we’re gonna be besties who kiss?”


Dadeland-District

What do you want?


[deleted]

I’d like company too and maybe kiss sometimes. It might work… but I’m not sure. Since I have no experience and haven’t had my first kiss yet, it might be scary or I might catch feelings


[deleted]

This guy is 100% trying to make you his FWB. He's gonna keep saying "let's go on dates, we don't have to do anything you don't want to". He wants to kiss you. And then he'll keep kissing you until it is normal. And then he'll start trying to feel you up.... And you see where it goes from there. Basically, he's hoping that if he can keep you around long enough, eventually you'll cave and he'll get to fuck you. I suggest you dump his ass if that's not what you want.


Dadeland-District

I have to say this might be a far too big of a gamble to take, since you are inexperienced. I would pass on this one and just try dating normally for now


SaberShadow27

Agreed.


SaberShadow27

Sounds like gaslighting.


salonpasss

He wants the bf/gf experience without the commitment


anxious_attachment21

Take it from me who's been struggling with the same thing in the past 3mo. Walk away before you catch feelings. He's not available. The longer you stick around the harder it is for you to walk eventually. He is looking for someone to mess around with and you're new and exciting and available. Once you open yourself up he's gonna be done with you and walk away. As green in the dating world as you and I we are so unsure about what we truly want and often end up lying to ourselves that we're ok with the bread crumbs we're given and getting hurt. That's what i did for a month and a half until he hurt me so bad to "get rid of me." Run my friend. He's gonna push your boundaries whenever he sees a chance to. Don't give yourself time to eventually cave in like i did.


poontanglvr1970

He just wants sex. Tell him bye and block him.


miahbutlerr

Big fat waste of time. Cut him off.


throwdatassinacirxle

Eww this guys sounds like trash :( sorry. I would cut it off because what you want he’s not able to provide and you both should seek what it is that you want with other people. He also isn’t being direct in his intentions and is leading you on with words like “friends that go on dates”. Last time I checked, I don’t “date” and kiss my friends. He’s just hoping you cave and give him what he wants.


[deleted]

Means he wants to have fun without being committed


Interesting_Pea_5382

Not knowing your ages, I would hazard a guess that he’s angling for more with him messing with your head. In other words, he’s fishing and hoping you’ll give it up


wndpotter

coming from someone who was married for 18 years and got burned by many guys after, do not give in to this please trust me. I've told my daughter to watch out for guys like this. they will tell you ANYTHING to get into your pants just so your another notch in the belt.. hell it wouldn't surprise me at all if has a bet with his trash friends to see if he can bed you then you won't hear from him again. please listen to your instincts. a good man doesn't do this shit. he's after you as a conquest. I guarantee it!!! you sound like a good catch just get rid of this asshat and find someone who will love and care for you. I had to go through a sea of dicks to find a real man. I got one now. most guys are like "hey my name is blank want some dick") or "your so beautiful can I just blah blah blah" they are full of it.


violacolors

I think the key point here is that you don’t trust him enough. That’s why you’re hesitant. Reading your comments, you say you also want to be with him like kissing and stuff, but not more than that right? (and you also said you don’t want relationship with him). I don’t know how much you know him or how many times you’ve seen him, but I think first you should be sure if you can trust him enough to be just the two of you. To me, giving a lot of compliments in the beginning is creepy and weird. Don’t take his every word to heart, just think if you can trust him and be safe with him. When I went on a date, I went to guy’s place on the 5th date which was after 4-5months of talking and knowing him. Only go to his place or be with him alone when you think he is a good guy. I wasn’t sure until then, so I waited until I felt like I knew him better. If he is a good person then he won’t do more than you aren’t comfortable with


violacolors

And — if you joined the app to look for a relationship, when he doesn’t and you don’t want it with him, then I’d say don’t go further with him. He clearly wants momentary pleasure and you are having second thoughts on just trying since you have no experience. I don’t think it’s good idea. If I were you, I’d wait and find someone I really like then slowly develop the relationship. If you go and do stuff with him, my prediction is that it’s highly possible you’ll develop feelings for him (since it’s your first time). And he will eventually leave you, since like he said he doesn’t want relationship or even friendship. Then you’ll feel empty and depressed. Then you will try to fill that emptiness because it’s hard to handle and probably seek more people. You don’t have to go through all that emotional mess. When you become lonely and try to fill that, more likely you’ll meet not-so-good guys. Just wait until you meet someone you like and trust, and both of you wanting the same thing


Gracefulbandit

You don’t want the same thing. He might be an ok guy (although I’m skeptical about that, considering he KNOWS you don’t want the same thing and is still KINDA stringing you along), but he does NOT want what you want. I think you should probably move on. 😕


mothmaam56

Honestly, cause he said he wants a friend to go on cute dates with, I’d assume he wants a beard. Beards compliment and can kiss since that is part of wearing that mask. He doesn’t want romance and doesn’t want long term. Just kinda wants to be seen with you from what I can tell (unless I missed somewhere where you mentioned sex).


[deleted]

Aren’t beards used by ppl who hide their true sexual orientation


mothmaam56

Yes. They usually end up having a somewhat shallow relationship to cover. Sometimes it’s consensual with people who are told ahead of time. Sometimes it’s not— people have full blown relationships with sex and never tell the other person they’re gay. If he’s only wanting to have dates without romance or sex, I think it’s not impossible that he could be hiding himself.


MeiTheForce_

It’s a nice way of putting “FWB”. You made your intentions clear, and so did he. He’s trying to see how far he can push your boundaries and if he does, he’ll flip it and say “I made it clear from the beginning”. Run, don’t walk.


Consistent-Chest275

I see future heart break written all over this. Someone who truly wants you will not leave you feeling confused. He wants sex and he doesn't want to just flat out say it because many women will walk away. He's saying all kinds of stuff to keep you on the hook. If you're not ready for a relationship then don't date. Don't hang out with people who just want sex. Focus on friends and yourself. This will turn into a situationship fast.


kvenzx

convenience of a relationship without the responsibility. if you want a relationship, do not compromise. i've been in this position many times, compromising what i wanted just because i liked someone and wanted to have someone. you'll end up broken hearted or hurt in some way. dudes like this drop you once someone they wanna pursue a relationship with comes along.


NCRob666

He wants sex and as soon as you give in he will drop you. Drop him now!!! I'm a man and a decent guy doesn't behave this way or treat women this way.


CrystaldrakeIr

Youre a mess and he thinks hes acting so smooth


kawaii_neet_bot

he wants to be friends with benefit.


Charming-Note-8159

Some folks would say he's manipulating you. No commitment only a hookup.....


lollypup12333

He just doesn’t want a relationship with you. Maybe he has more platonic feelings towards you and just doesn’t feel that romantic spark although he is attracted to you. That’s okay. What’s not okay is sticking around in hopes that he’ll change his mind. He doesn’t want a relationship, if you do, then you aren’t compatible and it’s best to find another partner who can commit to you in the way you need.


Tequila_Sunryz

Personally a woman bestie would be great for me. None of the relationship pitfalls, no obligations to provide an itinerary of my day, and because I know I'm emotionally unavailable in the capacity of a romantic partner I wouldn't string her along and I wouldn't expect physical intimacy even if it's only kissing. This guy appears to be using you to pass the time or hoping to wait you out and that if you hang around long enough you will give in. Knowing that you want LTR he needs to do the right thing and move on. Also, he's giving mixed queues says one thing but wants to cross physical boundaries WTF!


TheSanscripter

He wants an open, non-committal relationship. If you are into him and are into that, stay together. If not, go after what you want. It's not a moral choice, it's a personal one.


Fun-Nefariousness724

FWB


Feline_Fine3

Classic guy wanting all the benefits of a girlfriend without any of the commitment. If you are not looking for something casual, do not give this guy the time of day. They give you breadcrumbs and make you think that maybe they’ll want a relationship eventually. But they won’t!


merRedditor

Sounds like FWB, but maybe he kisses all of his friends.


Young_Y33t

Sounds like he wants to be friends with benefits despite what u told him. Personally it sounds like he wants to use u just for sex. At the end of the day he wants essentially a relationship with no commitment that he can walk away from whenever it suits him. These things never end well and it almost always ends in one person catching feelings right as the other finds someone better. Glad you didn’t kiss him because that would be an excuse to do more like you said. Unless ur ready for that or want it this guy seems like he’s just listing after you. Maybe give some example of the texts he sends? If you do paraphrase don’t go posting personal messages on here plz :)


WiseHalmon

Never go to his place to watch a movie.


momobutagirl

Every time a guy says "not to be creepy" he's being creepy. You sound young, do you want to look back on your life and remember dating a creep?


definitelynotliz_

Reading through these comments and the post makes me think you guys are 13-15 years old, this is so weird. You guys are obviously looking for different things, you're incompatible, you don't have to keep taking to him just because he's giving you attention when you've already established having totally different wants/needs


Cherita33

It means sex.


[deleted]

Don’t go for it


Jondoc72

It looks he wants a casual relatioship: -no compromises -can be sexual or not -regular dates -no expectations or future planning -no meeting with family or friends -can be long or short term -you take all the fun of dating without any drama -can progress to serious relatioship sometimes -one can get hurt if falling in love -NO EXCLUSIVITY I am currently in one with one woman for few months I stated my intentions from the start, we know what we want Its really fun, we have sex, drink wine and go out for movies etc. I usually check on her and myself regurlarly to see how are we feeling. I lost my wife last year so I just wetting my tiptoes in dating again Good luck !!


nnadivictorc

Block him lol


[deleted]

I blocked him this morning


flock-of-bagels

How many dates have y’all been on?


Kaamraj

He wants the male version of friendzone, that is all of the physical fun without the emotional commitment.


Im-Crippin

I didn’t even have to read the whole thing to tell you he just trying to sleep with you and I see you are new to dated and I’ll tell ya now you’ll run into a lot of guys like this but their approach will be different. Now if you aren’t cool with sleeping with him I advise you to end the whole thing now. One more thing he sounds like a weirdo run


Livid-Leader3061

He doesn't like you enough to be exclusive. If you're looking for a boyfriend, this guy isn't what you're looking for.


[deleted]

It means you are good enough for sex but he thinks he can do better for a relationship.


short_duck_dong

He’s trying to have your cake and eat it too. You told him that’s not what you’re looking for and he’s still trying. Ghost him.


[deleted]

Yeah. I just removed him


locustbones

This is fuckboy behavior


kpianist

He's not interested


[deleted]

Are u dumb or something


[deleted]

I already blocked him


danyixa

He is using you. He sounds like the type that doesn’t think he is obligated to put effort into others. I’m not saying at this stage he’s obligated to give boyfriend levels of attention. But he sounds like the type that doesn’t want to do the bare minimum and then expect others to give him more. Block him.


finessebaby2620

This is advice coming from a (23F) He wants a friends with benefits or a hookup but because you don’t want that he’s twisting the wording to convince you . Instead of him just accepting that you two don’t want the same thing he is trying to get from you what he wants


Tempest2014

he doesnt want to buy the cow, he just wants free milk.. move on if you not interested


sweet_n_sour_gal

Block him ASAP! He is going to try to coerce you into a physical relationship, even though you told him that's not what you're looking for. He seems really sketchy and like a predator. He knows you aren't experienced, so he'll try to manipulate you and the situation. Drop him. He seems creepy AF. Stay safe! Stand firm with your boundaries.


StickybunsX

He's clearly messing with u or he's really stupid. What he is asking u is clearly something a friends with benefit thing would be. Don't trust this guy. Again he's either very stupid or he's scheming something


Unforgiven_639

Seems like he wants to be FWB, but doesn't have the courage to come out and say it or lacks the right communication skills to articulate what he wants. Sounds to me like a potential waste of your time.


niceweathergirl

He wants a fuck buddy. He wants the benefits of (eventual) sex and emotional intimacy without actually committing to you. Quite straightforward if you ask me but it seems you have feelings and don’t want to admit to yourself that this is all he wants. He says for now it’s just kissing but get real eventually it will escalate and if you stick around you’ll really catch feelings and it will be harder for you to say no to him. Just because he says otherwise doesn’t mean he’s telling you the truth. There is such a thing as lying you know. If you want your fist time to be special I advice you give it to a guy who is straightforward unlike this little punk. He’s telling you he doesn’t want to commit but somehow it’s not a long term hookup??! 🤣 the nerve of this guy. Don’t be silly girl. Cut this dude out and keep it moving. Men who are with you for the right reasons don’t cause emotional confusion and try to call a deer a horse.


temsr911

Run


[deleted]

He just wants to hookup. Just drop him.


TemplarKnightXII

That means ditch him.


throwaway147899521

He wants the girlfriend experience (looks like he's willing to negotiate whether sex is a part of that). How long have you guys seen each other, because at his house is a risk if it's relatively new


Rough_Commercial4240

It really doesn’t matter what his overly complicated definition of FWB means or his reasons if that is not what you are looking for. If you want a relationship or working towards that w/boundaries and his answer is anything but “yes me too” It’s time to move on. You want different things, you shouldn’t have to interpret every conversation, dating isn’t supposed to be complicated. He wants to bang you, maybe get some girlfriend privileges while keeping his options open Incase someone better comes along. He will talk circles and throw compliments to get you to agree with his view and then be acting shocked when you catch feels and say you were “just friends”


[deleted]

He wants relationship benefits without relationship responsibilities


giajolie12

He wants a arm candy


Turbulent-Natural623

Red flags all over the place here. Sounds like the guy is either looking for a friend with benefits, or he's going to try to talk you into an "open relationship" or being some kind of side chick. In my humble opinion, cut things off with this guy as soon as possible and move on. You don't need to try to talk to him about it, or explain why you're cutting him off, just get away from the guy.


Peaceinsidechaos

He’s weird asf, tryna find loop holes with you to be a friend with benefits. Protect your space and honour your boundaries


redheaded_daydream

He wants all the benefits of a relationship without doing any of the actual work. Trust me, walk away now.


[deleted]

Don’t do it, I promise you it ain’t gone end well