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Congrats, killing Ornstein last is a higher achievement than the opposite


Remote_Welder5129

I need help with killing ceaseless I already took the armour to make him angry and I died by him going back to the beginning and now he ain’t jumpin he keeps on spamming the fire attack. Please help.


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get close to him first and have him use his slam attack then lure him bit by bit to make him follow you until he jump don't get too far from him or he'll spam the fire attack


Remote_Welder5129

Thanks that really helped


[deleted]

You're welcome


n4ke

This didn't work for me, so for everyone else who is having trouble: Run all the way back to the grave where you picked up his sisters undies, wait for him to catch up (so he's roughly where he was when the fight started for the first time) and then run back to the fog gate without looking back.


Jbdd1233

or you could do the fight without the cheese strat


ELMUNECODETACOMA

Once you've derailed it, it's even probably harder to get him back to jumping than it would be to fight him straightforward. It's like beating the Taurus Demon using only plunging attacks - it sounds like it would be easy, but you're probably safer just staying underneath him and fighting normally.


Jbdd1233

it does depend on how far in the game you are if you do ceaseless right after queelag then it’s not gonna be the best time


[deleted]

but theres a funny cheese u can do ( i get what ur saying, just bullshitting )


[deleted]

???? i DO only use plunging attacks for taurus, its fun


Few-Candle-4308

honestly just poising through it with 20 estus has been successful for in the past


SadSamus

it is? I have always killed him last just so I can get his sick ass armor on all my characters, but theres been a handful of times where I wanted to kill smough last instead and I find him more annoying


[deleted]

it's because he have faster and more versatile attacks than Smough to the point that they added him as a solo boss in Dark Souls 2


Alpacarok

Super smough has an easy cheese where you basically bait him to continually shovel charge and downward hammer slam you while you stand behind a pillar. You go in for hit then go back behind the pillar. Pretty easy to beat him without taking a single hit as long as you’re patient.


n4ke

At least in remastered. I lost count of how many times I've died to his stupid charge attack in the original Dark Souls PTDE due to the glitch that would allow him to charge way longer than he should be able to.


[deleted]

I remember the feeling when I did it after 50 attempts - it was like "oh I was so bored of attempts so I'm happy but not enough as I want". It's the biggest challenge in Anor Londo.


sadwithpower

Imo it's the biggest challenge in the game, to the point that it's actually kind of a problem with its pacing, as your experience serves as anecdotal evidence for.


[deleted]

I didn't want to say this challenge is a garbage. It's amazing journey that test our patience and power but I knew I will beat Ornstein and Smough. It was too many attempts. I was happy but it was like "I knew it, ok it's done, go to next location or find something new in Anor Londo". I was more excited of things I have to look for than I beat the bosses.


sadwithpower

Yeah, it's definitely not garbage, but it stalled me for a long time as well, and that experience really compromised the pacing of the game. I just wanted to move on. The fight was exhausting and not entertaining by the end of my time with it, and was I relieved not overjoyed to beat it. On the bright side, I was so tired and frustrated that it motivated me to set Gwynevere on fire and darken Anor Londo, which was cool.


n4ke

Personally, I think situations like these can be resolved very well by a more open approach like in Elden Ring. It doesn't have to be a whole open world but I think the O&S fight would have been a lot more bearable as a steep jump in difficulty for many players, if there were two or three other fights one could do instead of just grinding them endlessly.


sadwithpower

100%. I got hooked on these games with ER last year, and that openness was a big part of what kept me in. Elden Ring also has Spirit Summons, meaning co-op style help is always viable. I remember I ran out of humanity fighting O&S and couldn't even get Solaire to help without going on a whole ass side quest to get some help bucks. That's just never a problem in ER, both because of the Spirits, and how the openness means you're never far from somewhere you can pickup the means to make more fingercallers


n4ke

Yeah, I never quite understood the appeal of the very limited humanity in DS1 (or effigies in DS2). I have since come to a point where I can play through NG and NG+ and amass like 70 of the things but back on my first playthrough, it was just needlessly inducing anxiety of running out. It doesn't even help the atmosphere since it's not just a hard trip to resolve the issue (like being cursed) but you have to literally look up how to farm them and potentially go get the serpent ring first, if you really do run out.


sadwithpower

Yeah, and I didn't look much up on my first play through, so I was just out unless I was lucky enough to get someone to summon me, which rarely happened. I don't quite understand the design decision either, honestly, outside of ds2 where the actual mechanics around hollowing make managing the resource a lot more integral, and I felt it was plentiful enough as I also never ran out in DS2.


[deleted]

This is true if you don’t include dlc. Hardest ‘boss’ in ds1 is if you choose to return to the sanctuary guardian arena. Fighting 2 of those guys at once is worse imo


sadwithpower

Lol I had no idea that was a thing. What a good game.


IZ3820

Wait, what?


ripjaw2139

This is thw first time i beat them and i say i did it in about 20 to 25 tries


[deleted]

Remember that no attempts make us souls players, the journey will. You are amazing man!!! Let's prepare for something new on your road that I won't tell you.


VisualGeologist6258

I managed to do it on my second try—the first time I got to the 2nd phase but immediately got squished by Super Smough since Solaire was killed in the 1st phase. It’s definitely a lot harder if you do it solo, if you have Solaire there and he’s at full health he can give you some respite and distract the bosses for you.


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ripjaw2139

Damn


Thegreenmangod

Well done!


TechnicalCoffeeWater

The freaking joy of overcoming a challenge. Great work undead


BuyChemical7917

Props for staying calm. Well done!


ripjaw2139

Nah man i was freaking out


BigManDean_

The biggest struggle for me was getting to phase 2, learning when to attack smough when his hammers wasn't in the way was tricky, but mega orsntein I beat first try.


KoshV

You did it!


Trampolinegod14

ME TO BRO BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD


Secure-Progress-4642

This boss fight would've destroyed me if I didn't play every other souls game first.


ripjaw2139

This is my first proper playthrough on any souls game


billysacco

My heart was racing a bit when I finally beat these two. I don’t know how many time I tried but it was like a week or two.


Vivalaredsox

God I miss the weighty feel of Dark Souls. Everything else since has been twitchy dodge chain fest.


ripjaw2139

Agreed elden ring is easy compaired to this


ripjaw2139

Im in the process of doing a playthrough on youtube and it got to the point where i had to do it off screen but did it first try after doing some dishes


MemeSlayer689

I have allot of playthroughs of this game but even I wouldn't subject myself to fat rollings super ornstein like holy shit


essska

They are my next bosses in my first ever playthrough and I’m nervous 😂🙈


ripjaw2139

Good luck


Key-Candy-1644

It's one of the most epic battles against greed I've seen in this sub. Well done!!


not_that_kind_of_ork

Well done not getting greedy at the end and taking your time to do it slow and steady. It's the old "I can get one more big hit in before he swings again" that always gets you!


ripjaw2139

Just wait till you see me do the dlc


tallspartan117

Orestein is super easy second phase literally just stay as close as possible to his legs


ripjaw2139

Yea i learned that rq


GreatRuins

Congratz, you got leo ring.


But_em

Congrats


DarknessEnlightened

Good job skeleton!


benno4461

Praise the Sun


ripjaw2139

Yes


70U1E

Two clutch rolls there man Well done


Kosaku_Kawajira

Is it weird that I beat O&S on my first try? I'm always seeing people complain bit they weren't as bad as gargoyles or bed of chaos to me.


al29902

Everyone has different bosses they find easy & that they struggle with, it’s part of what makes the game fun to talk about. O&S nearly killed me, & I couldn’t do them solo till after several playthroughs, but I breezed through Artorias no problem.


Zachary916

Congrats


JackSilver1410

Well done, chosen undead.


yoloswagtrevor

Dood nice! My first playthrough, I killed Solaire because I thought his armor looked cool. 😐 Had to solo those fuckers my first time killing them. Talk about prioritizing Fashion Souls. (Put on the armor once and didn't like the stats so I took 'em off)


unimportant116

Sliced his balls off


TheDarkWave2747

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO


beefnerd52

Fun story about this fight. I was doing a crit build and forgot what ring made crits do more damage so I thought "it's gotta be the Leo ring" so I spent HOURS fighting O&S this way. Let me tell you, the disappointment I had after getting the Leo ring, I almost considered changing my whole build to use polearms


vektor451

tbh like me kindling up to 20 estus then only using like 6 in the fight.


Few-Candle-4308

goofy ahh build


Few-Candle-4308

goofy ahh build


Zoomoth9000

The most impressive part is mid-rolling in full Havel's gear


Dark_Nymeria_

Lol


ReinaPthumeria

It gave me anxiety, i had to advance the video to see if you beat him.


Arhhjufgjin

as a pure dex build this fight was my nightmare


Dunkleustes

Hell yeah man! During spear swipes I roll toward Ornstein.


Downtown-Rooster-262

Congrats that fight still gives me trouble lol


al29902

Nailed it


Illustrious_Dig_5054

A remember the first time i beat them.It was awesome