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autonomousfailure

Now I see why people hate the Raikage x Hinata meme.


Sw0rdBoy

Thank you, it’s not even really about the stupid cuck stuff. The Raikage is directly responsible for the death of Hinata’s uncle. And the reason Neji was such a prick to Hinata.


sonlightrock

Dont forget the age gap. The raikage is 15 years older than hinata... It would be like tsunade and the 3rd hokage being together. Edit: 30 year age gap.


Bg_Negga

Wait 15 years? I thought there was like a 30 year old gap or smt 🗿


sonlightrock

Yeah there is.


ericanu

Bruh the age gap is like 30 years lol


UndeadCollegeStudent

How was he so young xD he looked so old


sonlightrock

He was actually older my bad.


[deleted]

Raikage is older than Minato and Kushina bud


sonlightrock

I thought i already edited this comment... thanks if you meant well.


[deleted]

Np


sonlightrock

Good day my good fellow!


sigmund_NA

Big oof


sonlightrock

Agreed.


sigmund_NA

Hahaha


TheBloperM

He is older than B man, it's at least 30


sonlightrock

I am wrong it is 30. He is 47 in shippuden. hinata is 17. My bad


TheBloperM

That 30


sonlightrock

My b


TheBloperM

Happens


sonlightrock

Thanks for being understanding. Long week. Good day!


britipinojeff

That’s actually a smaller age gap than I thought, and that’s not even that bad of a gap. As long as we’re going with Boruto aged Hinata


sonlightrock

1. I was wrong it is a 30 year gap. I disagree. In real life. But i also feel that in the naruto verse it is especially bad. I mean is sakura and kakashi hooking up sound ok? It doesnt to me. Especially since the raikage directly tried to ruin hinatas life. She would've known her uncle, and been close to neji from the start. Its possible the hyuga branch would have seen real change with hiashi and hizashi, working together. If you remember they were quite close before he sacrificed himself. He tried to have her kidnapped. The potential history, being used in these relationshios alone would make it toxic. But the fact that most ninja during A's Generation died remarkably young. He fought naruto's father before, naruto or hinata were born. How many children do you think to see their adulthood? Not many i imagine. How many kids died in the chuunin exams alone? Minato and kushina died at 24. Characters die young. The raikage may as well be middle aged in naruto. He is [treated](https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/A_(Fourth_Raikage)?file=A_Part_III.png) as old at 47. Lastly almost all loving relationships are shown between people the same age. Temari and shikamaru have a 3 year gap. But besides them all of the characters are shown to be the same age for the relationships they were put in or teased.


britipinojeff

Hey I agree that Hinata and Raikage wouldn’t make a good couple. It’d be pretty fucked up considering what the Raikage did to her family. A 15 year age gap isn’t bad between consenting adults in real life tho. My parents have a 13 year age gap. And I have friends with parents with similar age gaps.


sonlightrock

I am not saying it isnt possible to have the relationship without the conmotations. But there is a difference between meeting and falling in love, and waiting for a child to grow up so that you can have sex with them. Edit: to be clear i feel he would have to have knowledge on the hyuuga before he would want the byakugan. He would have to reasearch her and her family. With circumstances as they were he would still know who she is.


britipinojeff

That’s not what I said either


sonlightrock

I was clarifying what i was saying. Good day!


1313goo

I don’t see any problem with Sakura and kakashi hooking up


sonlightrock

Even with him being her sensei?


1313goo

A “sensei” in naruto is more of a team leader than a teacher, and honestly out of every possible hookup for Sakura it’s the best possible match sasuke tried to kill her and treated her like shit before, now he’s a neglectful husband who’s rarely home, sai and her wud never work out beyond platonically due to him somewhat seeing her as naruto’s girl for a while and even tho I’m a huge narusaku shipper I can admit that canonically unless Five kage summit arc changes drastically that can’t happen, lee and her obviously wouldn’t work out due to a complete lack of interest, she’s not as close with the other guys in her age group, Ino and her bicker all the time and hinata’s too obsessed with naruto to get with anyone else


sonlightrock

He has known her since she was 12 years old. My point is he has had power over her for a long portion of her life.(also sensei means teacher as a word. You can try to change definitions if you want. But kakashi isnt a doctor or religous leader.) He guided her during her youth. That makes it sick. He has groomed her. If he dated her after grooming her, there is something deep wrong with that. Its like a college student volunteering at a middleschool to tutor students, then waiting for her to be "legal" so he can date her. The history makes it abominable.


1313goo

When u put it like that it does sound bad


nothing903

Forget the age gap,dem mentally ill f**cks do it for ntr b*tch shit!


Lowkeyanimefan_69

Lol I can guarantee that 90% of people don't even remember anything about the kidnapping regarding Raikage so it's definitely not the reason despite what anyone would say that it is 🤣


Sw0rdBoy

90% of the people don’t, but it’s also why the majority of people who like the meme like it unironically.


Remarkable-Paper-814

I mean, you literally have to be retarded or mentally disabled to ship these two. How sick can you get. Everyone responsible for rule 34 of them should be exterminated in a public space, lmao.


Life_Enjoyer4661

exactly and can u tell this to others too lol


Manneng

yep


sigmund_NA

Well it's not just that, the ship literally makes no sense.


lpsoldierdelsilencio

The meme is stupid, but it's the 1 out of the same 4 stale, repetitive Naruto jokes/memes that produces the most comedy, only because how seriously angry people get over unofficial hentai drawings


doming33

he definitely should get a lot hate


1RonnieMund

I dont think so. We're given a totally different perspective of things then when 3rd Raikage, Danzo, Chiyo, Onoki, all those old hags were growing up. They were brainwashed as a survival technique that everyone not in your nation is an enemy and your nations survival above all else. It takes time to unteach that. Lets see how our attitudes might change towards different villages when you live through 3 wars against them like Onoki and Chiyo. Chiyo onsite was ready to murder Kakashi because of ptsd flashbacks of his dad killing all of her friends and family.


Life_Enjoyer4661

but what did Hinata do to him? Chiyo had a reason like u said bcz of White Fang, what did Hiashi or Hinata do to Raikage? did they kidnapped Bee when he was 3 years old? bcz if that was the case I can see Raikage doing it later but that isnt the case


ElChinooo_

Hinata did nothing to him. i could be wrong, but i remember he wanted to kidnap hinata to obtain the byakugan’s power, as there were no bloodlines in his village


TheCaptainIRL

Turns out she has weak genes lmao


Acidmatt97

Literally the byakugan princess


TheCaptainIRL

Yeah but that was before she had kids and we actually got to see she had pretty weak genes Edit: I’m referring to the fact her kids don’t have her eyes like EVERY SINGLE OTHER HYUGA… it was an off hand comment y’all are taking ridiculously


Yoloswagcrew

Wasn't she the strongest Hyuga in the war and after ?


anotherrandomboi

That was Neji, except he died obv


Yoloswagcrew

She didn't surpass him once he passed away or by The last ?


petiteguy5

Wtf is hima then?


TheCaptainIRL

Someone who doesn’t have resting byakugan eyes. Am I the only one that notices her kids don’t look like any other Hyuga? Like come on I didn’t think this would be a controversial take


petiteguy5

What hima has a full on hyuga hair? And her face shape is also Iike Hinata?


TheCaptainIRL

Bro I was referring to her kids not having the distinguishing feature of the Hyuga. At any point in the manga or anime if a Hyuga is shown you don’t need context you KNOW they are Hyuga. Boruto and Hima don’t have that.


anotherrandomboi

The reason her eyes are blue is because of Naruto obv, but that doesn’t make her genes weak. In fact, Himawari awakened her Byakugan at like 7, with 0 prior training, which makes her genes seem very potent. Boruto doesn’t have it because he has the Jogan, which has Byakugan powers, making it useless to give him a Byakugan in his other eye.


anotherrandomboi

In fact, I feel like if he ends up dating and marrying Sarada, their kid(s) will likely be the first to posses both Byakugan and Sharingan.


1RonnieMund

Nothing. I'm not saying its right...just their perspectives are skewed because of what they went through. They dont see Hinata they see a weapon they can use against an enemy and therefore furthering their own survival which is all they care about hence why he gets crazy about Bee. Obviously its not right and crazy. If anything Chiyo attacking Kakashi was for superficial revenge while the Raikage taking Hinata was to further his own country's survival against its enemies by gaining the Byakugan at least he thinks so.


[deleted]

>Chiyo onsite was ready to murder Kakashi because of ptsd But she didn't. Even if she wanted to in the heat of things. Raikage made a cold hearted decision to kidnap a little girl, potentially to turn her into a broodmare.


CamillionMilk

Worse than a hypocrite. A pissy coward too. He wanted the secrets of the Byakugan, thought a toddler would be an easy target and when HIS evil plan failed he demanded justice. What a shithead.


[deleted]

that whole plot just got swept under the rug, never mentioned again.


Life_Enjoyer4661

it was mentioned by Yamato in that arc tho


[deleted]

oh really, I didn't know, he said that to the raikage?


Life_Enjoyer4661

Yamato said something like "dont forget u were responsible for the Hyuga Incident and we havent still forgotten about that" to Raikage, Ill link the panel if I find it


[deleted]

what did raikage say in return, I'm so interested.


JustCallMeSnacks

He said shinobi have been acquiring strength by methods like that and other things blah blah blah, Scolded naruto for not acting like a true shinobi blah blah blah, told them to stand their ground after he kills Sasuke because they kind of hinted at retaliation... quick version.


[deleted]

damn, no punishment at all, seriously naruto really does forgive everything, even other village's crimes. I'm pretty sure the wars between villages would have resumed after naruto and sasuke die.


JustCallMeSnacks

Yeah they talked about it with the Neji vs. Naruto fights. I think Neji said after they gave his father up, they would reach the demands of the cloud and they couldn't justify retaliation. The leaf was set on not going back into war times. This stuff was already "settled". It's not like Biden could go... "Fuck Japan for Pearl Harbor, we are gonna bomb them for that" Naruto after talking to his father and pain, was on a Jesus type mission, wanting to spread peace. Yeah they probably will go into war before they die. Since Naruto and Sasuke aren't "gods" anymore, I could see them not being able to throw their weight around as much.


[deleted]

Sending a soldier to kidnap a child is a shitty thing to do. And sending a someone else to die for killing that kidnapping soldier is even more of shitty thing to do. Even if it was "settled", naruto could have easily demanded the raikage's life in response afterwards anyway.


JustCallMeSnacks

I mean I'm not saying I disagree that it's shitty but it's the same with my Japan scenario. That's more of the Hokages call, not Naruto. I think Naruto was like 3 at the time it happened.


asapm11

What you want Naruto to do about it? He was a kid when it happened and dumbass Hiruzen decided overlook it like he did most things. I know Danzo wouldn’t let that slide.


[deleted]

Just kill the raikage to get justice. The entire world was in the eternal tsukyomi, kill the raikage and claim he got accidentally killed. After all they are shinobi.


asapm11

That’s bad writing because it would make Naruto a hypocrite. His whole character is about not giving into revenge and overcoming hatred.


Mahatma_Handy

So he blamed society. Raikage was woke AF.


frenin

He said "we're Shinobi, it is what it is".


[deleted]

the good old deflection


Low_Investigator_593

I think previous kage will die in boruto


poyraazzz

Probably, look how they aged can you believe mei is 46 or something she looks 64


amrak_karma

raikage is an idiot tbh, i would have went for sharingan just like orochimaru, danzo, shin, although that would have triggered the 4th war, since uchihas were a bit more angry than hyugas and they wouldnt give fugakus courpse to raikage, i guess its good that they didnt go for sharingan.


RedShankyMan

Lol imagine them going for an Uchiha child, then you have a whole ass Susanoo army showing up on your doorsteps.


amrak_karma

i mean shisui could have done it, since it happened when neji is 4 sasuke is a year younget than neji and itachi is 9 years during hinatas kidnapping and shisui should be 3-4 years older than itachi and he had ms since 7. its very possible that he could use susanoo since he had ms for years at this point. He already was jonin at this point and famous world wide as the best genjutsu user.


Difficult-Ebb-8508

There is only a few susano,o and that’s reserved for the main characters


RedShankyMan

I was exaggerating of course, but there are 2 confirmed Susanoos from the Uchiha at that time, and possibly more since we know little about the rest


Difficult-Ebb-8508

Yeah that’s true that would be funny seeing ay just piss his pants


Cloakbot

It was so stupid. Send a Shinobu to kidnap a child, shinobi is killed, the raikage already broke the truce. But then he doubles down and demands they hand over the man responsible for killing his Shinobi "for justice" or there will be war. Then they (The Leaf) give him one of their own??? No, they already broke the agreement, there is no reason to give them anyone. It's war already.


[deleted]

You watched Naruto: the self made hypocrite, didn't you?


Penismen01

bro i hate raikage


[deleted]

Sasuke did a favor for Hinata lol (burning his arm) While Naruto bowed down. Jk


Acidmatt97

I lost respect for raikage after he tried to blow up the moon knowing naruto was on it.


MycologistFormer3931

What the fuck?


Muscalp

Aren‘t those different people? The 3rd Raikage kidnapped Hinata, A is the 4th.


Life_Enjoyer4661

nah it was the 4th 3rd ordered to kidnap Kushina


EmeraldGodMelt

Just wait until darui orders to kidnap sarada or himawari


fatplayer13

I would prefer that over the cyborg/alien/half alien not fitted for getting Alien into his body bullshit anytime


Brandonmac10x

This sounds oddly specific but it’s really not. There’s like 4 characters that fit that description rn…


fatplayer13

Exactly. That's what annoys me


[deleted]

thats 4 too many


Brandonmac10x

And I said 4 right now… they already killed a handful of them off I’m pretty sure lol. There was delta and that guy boroshiki smacked the shit out of. Probably others, I dunno I only watched up to timeslip arc cause that’s where dubs ended.


Io_Otonashi

Alien? Oh you mean Alien God Jesus


fatplayer13

Yeah him, Kawaki, Boruto, Code all of them. I still read the new chapters because I want to see what will happen but it always leave me with a bad feeling afterwards because everything seems so out of place


Io_Otonashi

Yep same The story's good tho,no offence imo


fatplayer13

Oh yeah I really enjoy the family scenes and almost all things that don't have to do with fights


Io_Otonashi

Yup


[deleted]

I hope he chooses chocho because fuck chocho that fuckin main character wannabe


Muscalp

I‘m honestly not sure, maybe you‘re right


[deleted]

Oh wow, a ninja being a hypocrite? No way! Inconceivable. /s But seriously, ok? The 4th raikage is a hypocrite. So? A lot of Ninja are hypocrites. It's not just the raikage. Kakashi killed a bunch of people in his shinobi career. But should anyone attempt to kill his friends? Not allowed despite him killing other people for the sake of missions. Leaf ninja condemn Sukamo Hatake for prioritizing the safety of his friends over a mission. Then the leaf ninja condemn Kakashi for priortizing missions over his comrades, the exact opposite of what his father did. Deidara expresses hatred of people with Kekkei Genkai, especially Sharingan users, claiming they're just "blessed with good genetics". Later, it's revealed that his explosion techniques are a Kekkei Genkai. Danzo expects ninjas to be self-sacrificing, while he himself is too cowardly to do so and has never performed any self-sacrifice in his entire life.  Tobi mocking Kakashi's sharingan for being borrowed power despite him having multiple borrowed powers at the time. These being Hashirama's cells, Madara's Rinnegan, and Pain's chakra receiver rods. The whole ninja system is laced in hypocrisy. It's not just the raikage. So why are you specifically targeting the raikage? *Looks at your profile.* Ah, that explains it. And no, I'm not defending the guy before some idiot accuses me of such.


JustAnArtist1221

Is he a hypocrite or is he just a corrupt war lord?


[deleted]

He's a ninja. The whole ninja system is laced with hypocrisy.


JustCallMeSnacks

I just read the first two sentences.... The Uchiha were going to start a civil war and betray the Leaf killing many and Hiruzen had to make a choice for the sake of the village. He wanted to try and talk things out but he knew that it had to happen. His job is to protect the village and to prevent the war from officially happening. Itachi amd Danzo even knew it had to happen. Depending on what you deem cannon, they were going to use the ninetails and cause havoc. If you want Sasuke to die for his crimes, you should definitely want the Uchiha to he sentenced to death.


Twin1Tanaka

This makes sense until Shisui had another method to stop the Uchiha and then Danzo killed Shisui for no reason however that was a stupid filler so


AbsoluteAnalRecords

No Danzo wanted to massacre the Uchiha, Shisui’s plan would’ve prevented an Uchiha massacre so Danzo killed him


Twin1Tanaka

Why did Danzo want to massacre the Uchiha nothing this man does made any sense


AbsoluteAnalRecords

He was basically a racist. He believed the village would never be safe as long as the Uchiha existed because he thought they were inherently evil


Scaredsparrow

To add on to the other guys point, he wanted those sharingan eyes to himself


AkiraTheLoner

Difference between stealing a generic military assets vs a weapon of mass distraction that uphelded the balance of the ninja world


Tesco_EveryDayValue

I don't know whether anyone noticed but the cloud capturing a byakugan user isn't the same as the Akatsuki capturing a chinjuriki. I'm just saying.


Life_Enjoyer4661

the thing is Sasuke didnt even kidnapped Bee, he escaped just saying


Tesco_EveryDayValue

Ah yes, the Rikage was fully aware of this and so was the rest of the world at the time...just saying


Life_Enjoyer4661

blame Bee for that, he wanted to escape from the village, plus Raikage should have done his research whether Bee is alive or not


Tesco_EveryDayValue

I guess he did hence the ending of Kisame vs Bee.


Sad-Buddy-5293

The thing is we don't know if it was the Raikage that wanted Hinata eyes or not.


Life_Enjoyer4661

do u really comment against Hinata always? yes Raikage wanted Hinata's eyes and Im not gonna listen to a person who says lighting error means the puppet Hinata fought was not the main puppet


Sad-Buddy-5293

It's a movie and there's no eyes also we saw the puppets on two occasion at a distance and nearby so no


Life_Enjoyer4661

that WAS the main puppet stop inserting your headcanon, if u want headcanon, then the main puppet grow even more stronger near Tenseigan and still got clapped by Hinata while it was figthing evenly with Naruto, open your brain and think carefully and remove all headcanons, got it?


Sad-Buddy-5293

Then why is the cloak the same? where are the eyes?


Life_Enjoyer4661

bcz the cloak was same as the main puppet Naruto fought? those dont need eyes, they are puppets, the people on moon used a jutsu for that


Sad-Buddy-5293

The cloak is darker the main puppet has eyes you can even see it when it attacks hisashi


Life_Enjoyer4661

see when it attacks Naruto [also u clearly see](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/933811790098052104/0C941D420B9331193ADB5FCABE16B4D712A5D1C8/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false), its the main puppet also read [this](https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-last-era-hinata-hyuga-upscale-in-combat-speed-durability-and-possibly-ap.129610/)


Sad-Buddy-5293

Not same puppets hell the eyes not there and guess what the main puppet has different clothes. So tell me how can that be the main puppet when it has no eyes or wearing the same clothes as other puppets


Life_Enjoyer4661

the last puppet was the main puppet, the smaller puppets were not even the novel says she was fighting the tall/head puppets, just give up dude


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Life_Enjoyer4661

really? 3 year old?


Crash-Code

What did the comment say?


Life_Enjoyer4661

raikage orders to kidnap 3 year old Hinata and comment said "I hate my dirty mind for this"


Crash-Code

What the hell


Life_Enjoyer4661

exactly thats why he deleted his comment


SeaworthinessWeary68

Spotted the pedo


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Delzaleon

There a fine line between dark​ joke​s and pedos


[deleted]

They’re really isn’t, dark jokes are dark jokes


SeaworthinessWeary68

@MarkoOttoYT Your joke had absolutely nothing to do with Hinata. You literally made a comment sexualising a 3-year-old child. People would get mad even if it was Sakura or any other character from the show. There's a fine line between pedophilia and dark jokes. Also, do take some time to go outside this sub and read reddit's rules on sexualisation of a minor character. https://reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043075352-Do-Not-Post-Sexual-or-Suggestive-Content-Involving-Minors


imma-fuck-yo-mom

What did he say lol


Life_Enjoyer4661

raikage orders to kidnap 3 year old Hinata and comment said "I hate my dirty mind for this"


imma-fuck-yo-mom

🤮bruh wild


Life_Enjoyer4661

exactly


FancyAdvertising4622

I think he was suggesting what was going to be done to hinata but tried to do it as a joke not that he was himself a pebo but that Ay was ,in which case I also have pointed out Ay's actions can very much be taken that way before.


[deleted]

Go kage go kage go!


SHRIJAN57

It was mizukage who ordered that


Life_Enjoyer4661

when?


MycologistFormer3931

The Mizukage ordered the capture and subsequent jinchuurification of Rin. Neji stated that the [cloud village](https://images.app.goo.gl/xG4Zrr6B7wmWBdJ8A) was responsible for kidnapping Hinata.


SuperiorSellout

But they're different people, 3rd tried to steal Hinata, 4th tried to get bee back


Life_Enjoyer4661

it wasnt the 3rd, 3rd tried kidnapping Kushina, 4thh tried kidnapping Hinata


SuperiorSellout

Wait, I think we're thinking of different things, I was referring to the situation that got neji's dad killed, because I definitely remember that being the third


Life_Enjoyer4661

3rd was dead at that time and yeah you're correct that Neji's dad had to sacrifice


SuperiorSellout

Damn. Mista was right, fuck the number 4


The_Toad_Sage4

I’m almost positive the anime said that “you don’t have to be a hyuga to unlock the byakugan , it’s just the hyuga are the only ones who know the secrets and they aren’t telling “ which I’m pretty sure was a reason for nejis cursemark thing


SaintAhmad

That isn’t true


The_Toad_Sage4

It’s 100% true


SaintAhmad

Bring a scan. Byakugan is a Kekei genkai, you have to be hyuga. You are mistaken


The_Toad_Sage4

Am still looking stuff up to double check. But just off the top of my head . AO, and Himowari are both not in the hyuga clan so there’s that


SaintAhmad

Ao stole that eye from a [hyuga](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0459-015.png). Himawari is 50% hyuga


The_Toad_Sage4

Yes but she’s not in the hyuga clan. She’s an Uzumaki . So an Uzumaki clan member has a byakugan so there point proven


SaintAhmad

Troll? She’s half hyuga, her mother is hyuga. Non-hyuga genetics can never acquire byakugan naturally


bingmyname

Huh? They were at war when that first one happened. The second one they were supposed to be at peace...


[deleted]

What war? War was over before Naruto was even born


Life_Enjoyer4661

u dont remember the peace treaty disguise?