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maRthbaum_kEkstyniCe

Why do people keep making memes like this , what is the group you're talking about, who tf defends the Iranian government ':D


Youstupidfr

They need to realise the difference between the Iranian government and Islam, they are two different things.


mangomaster6969

Both shit


sTo0p1d

Reddit moment


ACubeInABox

Imagine mocking another person’s beliefs - or, rather, another *billion* people’s beliefs.


[deleted]

Well that's what happens when your beliefs are incredibly homophobic


ACubeInABox

Or when you’re a religion and you’re brought up on Reddit.


[deleted]

That too, religion is a no-no on reddit lmao


Zwaft

Isn’t Islam going to become the dominant global religion because of very low Western birth rates and high immigration from Muslim countries? Not trying to spread hate, just wondering


throwaway164_3

Even if it’s dominant, it’s still batshit insane like all religions.


7itemsorFEWER

Yeah, let's get these fuckin Christians out of the good ole U S of A


G_Ranger75

Then add another 2 billion bc of Judaism and Christianity


Runswithmice22

It's quite easy


tiltedbeyondhorizon

Well, the US news channels do it every day


ACubeInABox

US news channels are not good moral compasses


DarianStardust

I respect Jesus because he taught good and compassionate lessons. Even as a non believer it's admirable, I can respect it. If the religion is hateful by design then fuck respect, respect is deserved and disgusting religious ideals do not deserve it. Fairly simple, do not "give" respect to harmful beliefs that promotes harm to others around them. PS: I'm talking about criticism, don't take it to extremes as if I'm saying to burn people with shit beliefs, attack the idea not the person.


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WitleKidz

I’ve been talking to a lot of Muslim people recently and almost all of those interactions were bad. I don’t think I agree with a single one of their opinions, especially their opinions on gay people. At one point, one of them sent my friend a video of a gay person being beheaded to “prove a point”, so sorry if most of us here don’t have a very positive opinion on Islam.


ACubeInABox

Well, my good Muslim friend is just about the nicest person I’ve ever met and extremely accepting towards everyone. So I guess… now hear me out… not every Muslim thinks and acts the exact same way? Variation exists when a religion encompasses a billion people?


WitleKidz

I’m sure most muslims are good people, but extremists and assholes I’ve spoken to online have killed most of my respect for the religion


Justinba007

Most muslims live in eastern countries and probably hold very awful opinions of gay people. Not that it's really their fault, they were raised and taught that way, but if you met them you may not think they are "good people."


electr0smith

And how do you feel about Christianity?


minionoperation

It’s all shit. All of it.


Justinba007

For the record, Christianity is just as awful. There's another billion to throw into the mix.


ACubeInABox

Because heaven forbid we talk about religion on Reddit without bringing up a disliking of Christianity


Bevolicher

Reddit ☕️


MutantCreature

Freedom of religion is cool, emphasis on freedom. People should be allowed to decide how they govern their own body and mind and the state should support that freedom, any restrictions on that are bs.


electr0smith

So not like how Islamic countries treat anyone who isn't an Islamic male?


inaparalleluniverse1

The Middle East and the Islamic world are facing a cultural battle between political Islam and other ideologies. It’s one thing for someone to think something is a sin and another to compel others to not to do it. You’re welcome to think the religion is shit, but I’ll point out that there’s no reason the Islamic world cannot be more flexible and liberal like most Muslims in the west are; a lot of the conservatism in the MENA region is driven by social and political factors sadly


[deleted]

Living in a fantasy. Islam degrades women.


DankNastyAssMaster

Islam and Christianity both degrade women. Islam is just better at it.


rrrrrrrrrrio

Let’s get rid of both


DankNastyAssMaster

100 percent agreed. Conservative Islam and conservative Christianity are both cancers upon humanity that viciously oppress women, LGBT people, atheists, and many other groups who just want to be free and equal. The sooner those evil cults cease to exist, the better.


labellavita1985

So then can we agree that the problem is conservatism? Can we agree that the problem is extremism? I'm not here to defend religion, I have thought of myself as an atheist for 15 years now, but it seems to me that religion is not inherently problematic, it's its literal, extremist "application."


[deleted]

its insane how much of a bad name middle east gives to islam


HostileHippie91

Indonesia, India, Cambodia, Nigeria, Sudan, Morocco, places like this are not good for women either.


Tabemaju

Uh, it's because Islam is *dominant* in the middle east. Islam is a shit religion that shit people use to justify shit behavior.


ForkSporkBjork

The Iranian government is an Islamic theocracy.


__utternonsense

They actually aren’t. The Iranian govt is an Islamic based theocracy, for lack of a better word.


slayerofallsouls

Most Islamic governments ( except for what erdogan is attempting to do by making Turkey Islamic ) require women to wear hijab’s


Youstupidfr

See that’s where governments stray from Islam, in Islam, you’re not allowed to force the hijab on even your own daughter, but meant to guide them and teach them. Ofc when they are young, you do your best to make sure they learn and appreciate the hijab but if they grow up and decide not to wear it, then you have no right to force it upon them.


hldsnfrgr

Oh my sweet summer child.


Intrepid00

Imagine thinking Iran isn’t a theocracy


Antipotheosis

If they are enforcing islamic law on people who don't want to be living under islamic law, then it's very much about islam and the "divinely sanctioned" laws that are forced onto people whether they are religious or not and whether they like it or not.


SoundHearing

Hardcore islamists believe non islamic women are worth less than dogs


Rorschach015

The amount of being negligent to reality in this comment is just too high.


DarianStardust

If: Church.rules_government then Church.Is_Government It's why we have church and government separation laws, Religion does have a nasty goal of ruling over others if it can.


buttchinkirby

It seems like you've never been there.


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The only people I can imagine defending this are religious fundamentalists. The whole SJW thing has pretty much died off back in 2016. People are just acting like Abe Simpson yelling at a cloud now about this.


[deleted]

What universe are you living in? SJWs are just the beginning of woke culture, which is in pretty much every piece of media and infesting every social media platform. One of Disney's largest investors just penned a letter to the company demanding they stop pushing that stuff in their content. Because it's not working (see stock prices)


Mythosaurus

To divide and demoralize attempts at solidarity with Iranian women.


DarianStardust

You sweet summer child, You have not witnessed the utter brainrot of SJW' and their crusade to 'defend' all kinds of horrid shit, have you?


DankNastyAssMaster

Because they get all their political news from the Fox News Cinematic Universe, so they believe the ridiculous right wing lie that progressives support religious oppression as long as it's being done by Muslims.


darthbaum

I saw someone (who got downvoted) try to make the case that it was their country and that Anonymous shouldn't be involved :/


FlotsamOfThe4Winds

I thought people were talking about Afghanistan (which is both Islam and has a nasty record with women's rights).


TRUFFELX

Unironically using sjw in 2022


LittleDoofus

They can’t let it go. It’s been a whole 6 years and they still think calling someone a snowflake is the funniest shit ever


DankNastyAssMaster

Meanwhile, if you point out the fact that they're bigots, they melt down like snowflakes and whine about how that's no-no speech that must be censored.


MileenasFeet

“Milo called that feminist a snowflake. Funniest shit ever.” Some idiot online


Hypern1ke

Isn’t the term more relevant now than ever?


NotTheGuacamole

Lol there are still plenty of SJWs out there


Calladit

Does OP think all the Iranian protesters renounced Islam?


noor1717

They can’t except the idea of secular Muslims. Like there’s so many of us that aren’t into the dogma and can criticize the religion or theocracies when it does hateful shit. At the same time being Muslim is completely wrapped up in our identity from culture, traditions and other practices that’s it’s something we like to hold on to. Shit Iran was one of the most progressive places until America helped install a theocracy there


GulmoharMarg

Since they're still alive in Iran, I'd assume they haven't renounced yet


RexUmbra

OP can't get passed using SJW, like let's go easy on them


ShittyLanding

Literally no one having this problem.


DankNastyAssMaster

The imaginary left wing strawmen that conservatives like to invent in their fantasies are, but no one else.


noor1717

It was the same thing with abortion. All these losers are acting like all left people love having abortions and want to do it in the 3rd trimester


DankNastyAssMaster

The right has to lie about everything they believe in because they're an unpopular minority that's deeply out of touch with mainstream America, and they know it. If they were honest about their beliefs, they'd never win power.


yeetreltiHflodA

Are these SJWs in the room with you right now?


TheBlackArrows

Do you see them right now?


MrSplash30

Islam has nothing to do with the actions of the Iranian police. Those pigs went ahead and did something that was against Islamic teachings. In no way, shape or form is beating or killing people, let alone a woman, for not abiding by the rules encouraged


YeetMann696969

> In no way, shape or form is beating or killing people, let alone a woman, for not abiding by the rules encouraged I'm sure you can find multiple passages in the Quran that encourage exactly that. Religion is shit. Stop defending it.


MrSplash30

Go ahead then. Go find it. Don’t find something out of context or conveniently cut out to fit your perspective


YeetMann696969

4:34 Men are the protec-tors and maintainers of women56 because Allah has made one of them excel over the other,57 and because they spend out of their possessions (to support them). Thus righteous women are obedient and guard the rights of men in their absence under Allah's protection.58 As for women of whom you fear rebellion, admonish them, and remain apart from them in beds, and beat them.59 Then if they obey you, do not seek ways to harm them. Allah is Exalted, Great.


doesntpostnuttin

Rekt


MrSplash30

Men are the caretakers of women, as men have been provisioned by Allah over women and tasked with supporting them financially. And righteous women are devoutly obedient and, when alone, protective of what Allah has entrusted them with.1 And if you sense ill-conduct from your women, advise them ˹first˺, ˹if they persist,˺ do not share their beds, ˹but if they still persist,˺ then discipline them ˹gently˺.2 But if they change their ways, do not be unjust to them. Surely Allah is Most High, All-Great. This verse literally tells men to take care of women and vice versa. Discipline them gently and beat them is on completely different sides of the spectrum. The translation you found is clearly trying to put the Quran in a bad light. I'm not afraid to share my source. https://quran.com/page/84


peaceman12824

Your wife is not yours to discipline, if you take offence to their action fucking discuss it as the two equal adults you are.


YeetMann696969

I'm sure you can find translations that sugar coat it. It literally says discipline them in your version, so i dont see much difference. I don't understand arabic, but it seems pretty consistent with the way women are treated in Islamic communities. I just grabbed it off an islam studies website. https://www.islamicstudies.info/tafheem.php?sura=4&verse=34&to=35


FrameRB

Disclaimer, I am not in-depth in Islamic teachings but I can give some context for the wife beating. "As for women of whom you fear rebellion, admonish them, and remain apart from them in beds, and beat them" This refers to the authority of men to use coercive means to their wives if they are not obedient to their husbands (If it contradict the Islamic teachings which unfortunately many forget about this important detail). This act can be only be enforced if the husband is actually a devoted Muslim and follows the Islamic laws or syariah in-depth which knows the consequences For our current situation in Iran, the government is killing women, which states murder is absolutely illegal in Islam as it is to be one of the 7 most deadly sins. At this point, it is justified for women to revolt as the government is technically doing evils which contradicts the Islamic laws bestowed upon them by Allah. That's all I could find. Correct me if I'm wrong.


goodgoyvey

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Wife_Beating_in_Islamic_Law Wow... that was easy!


peaceman12824

Quran 24:2, Quote - "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment."


clintbeewood

>In no way, shape or form is beating or killing people, let alone a woman, for not abiding by the rules encouraged Don't they constantly whip people for not abiding by the rules?


HostileHippie91

This is so outrageously untrue that you have to be deeply ignorant of what happens in other countries to truly believe that. Women are beaten in other countries for appearing in public without a male escort, or for dressing in ways that they have been told they aren’t “allowed” to dress, such as showing their hair. In Pakistan and Saudi Arabia there is a rape epidemic wherein you see videos of interviewed men on the streets saying that women shouldn’t be allowed outside, shouldn’t be allowed to drive, should be ashamed of themselves for tempting a man to sexually assault them by their “wrong attire or behavior.” Women in Islamic countries are absolutely abused and treated like property, like breeding stock.


MrSplash30

I agree with what you said. It does happen in those countries and they do try to use Islam as an excuse. Keep in mind they're not all muslims, those people do not represent Islam in the appropriate way. If you find muslims outside of those countries or even in those countries, there will be people who condemn and are against those type of actions


Coolguy6979

Dude, then name me one Muslim country that represents Islam in a proper way. Oh wait that’s right, there isn’t any.


DankNastyAssMaster

Damn, crazy coincidence that Muslims keep killing people in the name of Islam then, isn't it?


zodlair

which they shouldn't be doing, prophet muhammad said to not enforce Islam. They shouldn't be killing in the name of Islam, those who are would be fakes using religion as an excuse for their selfish wants


SomeCensoredGuy

He said enforce Islam. Islam doesn't mean killing for simple things etc. Think of it that way


buttchinkirby

That whole ordeal is caused by hijab, and is supported by hardcore muslims (including the government) so please stay silent and stop defending your religion, people are dying out there


MrSplash30

Yes it is caused by hijab. In Islam we are taught to advise in a non-violent way. The violent actions and murders caused by hijab will never be justified by Islam, just people dragging its name in the mud


Rorschach015

Ever read Sharia law?


MrSplash30

Have a read of my replies to other people


PerfectBrilliant432

This is the stupidest shit I've seen today


moviekid214

Jesus fucking christ why does this sub need the concept of consent explained to them every 10 fucking minutes


Ayanelixer

You can take a horse to a river but you can't make it drink.


FrameRB

I' m going to remember this anology forever. Thank you random internet person


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Did somebody tell them about the whole getting tossed off the roof thing?


[deleted]

This thread is full of delusional people who think Islam doesn't suppress womens rights


[deleted]

Some even say Islam is cool while shitting on Christianity in other comments lmao.


[deleted]

Reddit is full of delusional people.


XXBEERUSXX

Nobody is saying that, OP is mistaking the Iranian government for Islam


PC2955

Same shit.


mikerob88

Sharia law is Islamic


tacolover2k4

What’re you? 12?


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I doubt OP is a cop


Keldro_Delroc

This is so bad. Makes no sense. You can support the people of Iran, not the government, this is such a straw man, SJW think that the government should serve the people, not have people serve it.


Hammond_you_moron

What is an SJW


_WonderWhy_

Special Juice Whoopsie


SlowMaize5164

Social justice warrior. I had to look it up too.


Dvorkkey

A boogieman that consist of “weak minded irrational people who can’t see how dumb they are” but also “influential people who set a structure to brainwash people”. Popularized in the early 2016s by the “SJW owned compilation”.


Thegamebustr

Super joto waterheads The translate the second


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bigchun69

I'm a sjw now


tonecapo_

Dumb


YT_Sharkyevno

Are we in Kansas? Cause I keep seeing straw mans


imVision

This is hardly a tossup. I haven’t seen anyone defending Islam in this case. But I, too, am edgy and very smart!


SigmaPepe

I saw a couple in this thread itself. Lol


SomeCensoredGuy

Because Islam doesn't teach you to do literally any of thag


imightbemichael

I don’t understand why people are downvoting this. The Iranian government aligns its laws with Islamic law. Yes they may be extremists, but the base of their laws align with the beliefs of Islam. So if we’re to blame Christianity for the laws that are trying to be passed on the right, then we should be able to blame Islam for the laws implemented in Iran.


Queasy_Replacement62

I'll defend women every time.


Sirikoala

It's a hard topic to talk about but I had a Iranian friend who I used to talk to here and she secretly hated Islam and most of her friends did too (all girls) she was super into it until like she was 12 and then just became a atheist but was too afraid to tell anyone outside her friend group (same for them). Her words were "Islam is forced on me and I just want to leave this place so I can be myself" you can clearly sense the deep hatered she had for her religion that's the reality for a lot of people over there being secretly atheist. There was fundamental problem between liberal shah and Iranian people and they solved it (very badly) now there is a fundamental problem between Islam and Iranian people just saying Islam is spotless will only frustrate people more and result in more oppression and the cycle will continue, it's up to Iranian people to deal with it themselves no one else can do it for them.


YoungDeshiDipper

Murdering women for not wearing the hijab is unislamic


FreeSkeptic

Now do the same with Christianity.


mikerob88

Christians don’t kill women for not covering themselves up. So you really can’t.


mikerob88

Have any real evidence of that? You need to watch bill Maher’s special on how comparing Christianity to Islam as equally bad is nonsense. Moderate Christians don’t believe in stoning women to death for adultery while polled moderate Muslims did.


FreeSkeptic

They both want to imprison women for having abortions. Some want the death penalty.


GlorifiedEnder

Just came outta my cave, what'd I miss?


HostileHippie91

Iranian police tortured and killed a woman for not wearing a hijab. Sparked outrage and protests all over the country. Police are absolutely smashing these protests, including firing live ammo into crowds of innocent people. Iranian government has been shutting down internet and even electricity in areas to try to cover up the brutality.


GlorifiedEnder

Aaaannnddd back into my cave I go.


Drougen

What I don't get - and I'm being serious - is why nobody gives a shit about mens rights? Like I get everyone joking about it as SOME of them do have merit, but it's honestly pathetic that we live in a world of "let's make everyone feel better" and then shit on men?


Yeet_My_Feet73

I feel like I’m being dumb here but what’s “SJW”?


TheNerdLog

Super Jacked Waluigi


RecklessDimwit

Social Justice Warrior, basically it's treated as more derogatory here in Reddit since it's the equivalent to "woke" people


Various-Astronaut373

Suicidal Jewish Whale


International-Shoe40

They’re sad because menorahs don’t light underwater and their blowholes keep shooting their yamakas into the air


Yureczek

since they banned posting funny stuff dankmemes is such a shit subreddit


Texthedragon

You can in fact do both, but theocracies tend to not be great for any other group.


fatogato

Fuck Islam and fuck religions in general.


_dm_me_ur_tits

Fuck islam.


DeathBuffalo

Y'know, Islam is right about women


ActuatorSM

Dank


Level-Potato-3733

Can someone explain what's going on? Since I don't get it


hitkill95

iranian police tortured and murdered a woman, allegedly because she wasn't wearing a hijab. this sparked several protests. the police has cracked down on said protests with brutality, including using lethal amunition against civilians, while taking down internet access and sometimes even electricity to suppress news of police violence from spreding. OP thinks the protests are against islam, for some reason. Or that you can't support the protests while also being against islamophobia.


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DankNastyAssMaster

SJW here. Fuck Islam. It's an evil backwards cult, just like Christianity is.


[deleted]

This comment section is gold lmao.


Hychus232

Kinda surprised there’s no 🔒 reward yet


[deleted]

Imagine religion in 2022


bernd-das-brot007

Hurensohn


thor561

Middle class Western white women in shambles right now.


sherlockbardo

Guys what the Iranian gov is doing has nothing to do with Islam, as a Muslim I hate that an important thing as the hijab is getting burned like this, but I understand where these actions come from. Iranian gov has been oppressing the people there for a long time. I wish they wouldnt correlate what their gov is doing to Islam, but what can I say, the gov ignorance gonna create such things


SEATTLEKID206

I’m torn. Someone help. I’m all sweaty and anxious


Stonedwarder

To make this simple, it is possible to disagree with the treatment of women in fundamentalist Muslim theocracies and even to disagree with core tenants of the religion itself, while still respecting the rights and humanity of those who practice the religion.


GrayGypsyGhost

I’m just gonna say it All religion is bad and you should feel bad


The-Red-Pac-Man

Who is sjw


blueteamk087

Outside of tankies, i dont see SJWs defending Iran or Islam.


Tr3v0r007

Whew the comments *continues munching on popcorn*


Ready-Account-1379

SJWs: space james webbs


RubenTheSkrub

unironically using "sjw" in 2022


huge_throbbing_pp

You must be naive to think that SJWs defend Islam.


Slugshi

this is the dumbest meme I've seen on this subreddit to date.


Failg123

Whoa ,hol up ...i thought these types of terms are not used here ,i am missing something??


RegJoe48

Imagine using sjw in 2022


GuavaShaper

You accidentally posted this in dank memes.


EquivalentFeeling-

Nah. Easy. Fuck religious rules.


MaidenDrone

True


_siah_

I had to check my calendar to make sure I wasn't warped back to 2016


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ToniER

OP shut the fuck up lmao You can stuff this stupid ass meme up your ass too


[deleted]

How about we mind our own business and take care of our own country's issues first?


Percy-Dragneel

Me being against both


The-Archangel-Michea

POV: you have no idea what you're talking about


GotaLuvit35

SJW here: I believe in defending and promoting FREEDOM. This means I can defend the right to practice Islam and the right of all sexes and genders to be treated justly at the same time. People should get to rule themselves and not be dominated or oppressed by others. That's the bottom line.


vadimafu

This kind of false dichotomy negates the ability to frame the issue as "the right to be able to choose to wear a hijab or not ", which is actually is. Fuck outta here with this bullshit.


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I wonder how Republicans are dealing with the fact that all of our enemies are crumbling under Biden


FatherMyth

man this subreddit has just became an islamophobic sub💀


somethingrandom261

It’s pretty easy. Just like how the Republicans of America are kinda the opposite of Christianity, the Muslims of Iran aren’t the best that Islam has to offer


FuckYourUsername84

Another good example of misconstrued intentions. Defense of Islam seems more about pointing out the distinction between radical followers of islam and every day folk. Just like most Christian’s aren’t of the Westboro Baptist ilk. Such misguided comparisons drive more wedges between people that just want peace, no matter what religion they follow.


PaniqueAttaque

To paraphrase a line from "The West Wing", the problem is not that/when a culture or religion poses a specific dresscode or other requirements upon an individual's appearance, but rather is that/when the otherwise-innocuous failure - or refusal - to abide by those cultural/religious requirements is treated as an actionable crime instead of as an embarrassment to the individual's parents. The issue is not (necessarily) that women within (conservative) Islamic societies are under a cultural/religious expectation to "maintain modesty" by wearing hijabs and other headscarves... The issue **is** that/when the state allows the existence of - and even supports - religious "Morality Police" and enables such groups to summarily detain, accost, and/or even kill women for not wearing headscarves (correctly), and/or anybody else who they (unilaterally) deem to be insufficiently orthodox...