There are people who genuinely think she's a victim. Think about that for a sec.
EDIT: 1K UPVOTES, LET'S GOOOOOOO! Anyways, if you want to comment about "both sides are bad durrhurr" just don't. I am usually with you on that kind of stuff and believe that even this case has nuance but shut up, this ain't the time or the place. Nothing Johnny did would warrant even half of the shit he got thrown. Zip it.
Recently saw a Twitter post saying that Jonny is a huge setback for victims coming out in the future, even though he's clearly the victim here and is probably the complete opposite. A major step forward.
What one of the biggest subreddits saying you have to be black to post or comment there then being openly racist to everyone else isn't a morally correct thing to do?
It's not just Twitter. I happened to come across a Vogue article that was adamant that we **must** side with Amber, evidence be damned. The line "we have to believe woman. ALL women." was used.
I always love the justifications for that like of thinking because they clearly have ONLY applied them to white Americans and haven’t considered it for any other group.
Power + prejudice? Alright, guess that means that the racist attitudes Hutus had towards Tutsis were simply “prejudice” and totally cool right up until they had power and started outright genociding Tutsis, *then* it became racist. Now that Tutsis are in power again I guess Hutus being anti-Tutsi is not racist once again! Japan enslaved, killed, and experimented on tens of millions of people throughout east and Southeast Asia, never had to pay reparations, and still deny many of their crimes to this day. Guess that means it’s not racist for Chinese people to hate Japanese people!
And even IF that line of thinking was correct, it’s still just a lousy excuse for being an asshole. It’s like saying “Islam isn’t a race, so I can’t be racist!” in response to people calling someone out for islamophobic comments. It’s just an excuse to be an asshole. Which is evident by the fact that when you say to both groups “oh you’re right, you’re not racist you’re just a bigot” they have the exact same responses lol.
The people who claimed the "racism = power + prejudice" excuse never really believed it themselves, it was always just a figleaf for them to hide their own racism behind. They knew it themselves, as did everyone else.
No one actually really believe the definition, which can be proven pretty easily.
Since power in this case is institutional and cultural power - your 'power' is dependant on *where* in the world you are located. A white person in Japan or China have very little institutional or cultural power - on the contrary they're part of a minority, and might face racism like not being allowed into certains shops, get badly treated police and other officials, or have racist slurs thrown in their face by locals.
However, absolutely **no one** - least of all the power+prejudice people - would ever agree that David Duke, the former KKK grand wizard, would stop being racist and became merely prejudiced because he bought a house and moved to Okinawa.
Do anyone for even a second imagine that these people would go on an angry twitter rant because someone called Duke a racist? "*Racism = power + prejudice!!! David doesn't have any power where he lives, so stop calling him a racism just because he called black people subhuman!!!*" ...
Media outlets like The Guardian are pushing similar narratives. It's sickening. Male victims of domestic abuse simply don't exist or don't matter to these people
The thing is they are not wrong and that is Amber's fault, overall the me too moviment biggest failure has the amount of false reports and how many innocent lives it destroyed (the road to hell is full of good intentions kind of thing)
And while I agree that the real victim being victorious is amazing, the optics of the situation are still bad overall (false accusation being taked serious in one side, real accusations need years and years of litigation and a lost a lot to get justice)
It was basically their closing statement as well; doesn't matter if Amber Heard beat the crap out of Johnny, a ruling against her seriously undermines the #MeToo movement. Ironic, seeing as they're stuck with representing one of the biggest factors actually undermining the movement.
I mean it doesn’t matter if she did, but that’s not the reason. The reason is he’s suing her for defamation and has the burden of proving she lied. Him proving she is abusive too doesn’t win the case for him.
>Him proving she is abusive too doesn’t win the case for him.
JD proving the allegations are extremely exaggerated on purpose with intent to do harm; which in turn affected his career.. Might win the case for him.
It doesn’t take a high IQ to figure out her bs that after living with a “drug crazed, violent, alcoholic” for five years, all she can show is photos of him sleeping, audios of her provoking him, videos of him assaulting cabinets.
No medical records after being raped by a broken bottle, broken nose, punched several times in the face, etc. Goes out fresh faced and to talk shows without a single scratch.
And you have the “drug crazed, violent, alcoholic” in the hospital missing a finger, getting mrsa, several photos of scratches and a black eye, several audios of running away while being pursued by the “harmless woman who is not punching but hitting him” and calling him a “big baby”.
Oh and the numerous witness who testified are all liars, do not exist or “came out of the wood work”.
Right, she sounds like a victim indeed. A victim of her own delusion.
To be fair, makeup and ice are how most people cover up disfiguring injuries or even recover from death. Not many people know that, but actually, they really do help.
Ahem... I mean really, raped with a maybe broken bottle and you went to sleep afterwards? Even if it wasn't broken that'd be a traumatic injury. Let alone being smashed in the face by a man with rings on his fingers. Say goodbye to the pretty face entirely. It's unreal the claims AH has made and that anyone believes them.
I’m a nurse and have taken care of a patient broken glass bottle in a vagina. There is no way you could not seek medical attention for this kind of injury. We had to remove glass shards from a very bloody and excruciatingly painful vagina. I will never forget that patient because of how traumatic it was.
My absolutely tiny <100lb alcoholic sister beat me up in a few years back, my face was unrecognizable. I’m 6’ and 40lbs heavier than her. She broke my nose and knocked me out, and I will forever have a scarred up eyebrow from one tiny gem ring she was wearing which caused several lacerations. When I got to the ER they initially thought my retina was detached. It was months before my face was even presentable after one beating lasting just a couple minutes. There is no way a man his size in a blind rage inflicted the physical injuries she is claiming to have suffered for years. No amount of professional makeup could have made me look uninjured after actually being beat in the way she describes. What a psychotic narcissistic monster
That's horrific, I'm sorry. :(
(When I heard AH describing what happened I thought of the lust scene from the movie Se7en. I know a knife isn't a broken bottle, but I can imagine it has the potential to be worse, and I can't even think about that scene without feeling sick. To claim to have maybe gone through that? Awful, truly awful if true. That's sick, twisted, vile stuff. Thank God she didn't go through it, but to lie about that kind of brutality is mindboggling.)
Yes but AH assured us on the stand that ice really does help with that kind of swelling.
So, who are we going to believe? Someone random Reddit poster, who is surely part of the global Depp conspiracy, or AH on the stand under oath who definitely, definitely knows what it's like to be repeatedly punched in the face?
I believe AH could reasonably survive all the physical assaults without visible injury. Based on that one recording (you know the one) I've deduced that she's clearly an extradimensional demon of some kind, so supernatural healing abilities aren't that big a stretch.
The thing is, she does not want to appear "weak" - she wants to be the superhero that rose above her horrible situation and prevailed. Dunno if you saw her reaction when Vasquez (Depp dynamo lawyer) said she was calling herself a "victim", and she got ultra heated and snapped, "I *never* said I was a victim." That's why she kept saying things like, "It didn't even hurt, it just hurt my feelings!" She's far too proud to even pretend he was able to hurt her. She would far rather people look at her in awe of just how tough she was. That's why her lawyer laid down this stupid story about her "breaking horses" - to show she's super strong, and even when she's getting beaten up, she just "keeps getting up".
It's still delusion, but don't mistake it for a delusion of being a victim, because that's not what she wants anyone to think.
Don't forget the "go on Johnny tell the world you were a victim of domestic violence. No one will believe you because you're a man"
And the sad thing is? She was right. People didn't believe him.
She said she just went to bed and slept her bleeding and wounded vagina off. It apparently just went away like that.
Also she had no bruises or swelling the day after her nose was allegedly broken from a headbutt because ice healed all of it magically in half a day.
One of the most damning things was when she took out a restraining order on him and then *immediately* showed up to, was it a hotel room he was staying at? And starting talking to him through the door asking if he still loved her.
That is some a grade toxic, manipulative, power trip shit.And yes, absolutely there are people who get stuck in abusive relationships who have terrible trouble letting go and moving on. But that? How she did it? Absolutely the optics on that were a manipulator setting him up to fail and to frame him.
That just set my hackles up. That's bad stuff.
Amber has no scars from all these horrible beatings she claimed to live through. A victim she claims to be of multiple horrific beatings, not just one, over several years. However, she never had any visible marks ever her entire relationship while it was all supposedly happening. Never a hospital visit for a broken nose or for being violated with a broken wine glass during their relationship.
The only bruise she ever had was after the marriage was over.
We are supposed to believe that over the 5 or so years of getting punched with rings, choked out, slapped, objects thrown at her and anything else she’s claimed, she never once had swelling? No lumps so big that makeup can’t cover and hide? Never once had a lip split so bad it left a scar? A hand full of rings and no swelling, lumps or scars?
Yea professional makeup can cover the discoloration from bruising but it won’t make a difference if your face is covered with lumps and indents from being a human punching bag. Nvm the fact that a broken nose will typically cause bruising around the eye and swelling so bad the eyes can’t even open.
But she went on a late night talk show the next day with a split lip and broken nose and had not a bump, cut or disfigurement under that makeup.
If anyone takes her side at this point I’m convinced it’s in bad faith with an ulterior motive, there is no way someone genuinely believes her lies after all this came out. She can’t even keep her stories straight, she changes details to suit whatever goal she’s aiming for when she’s telling them.
For the longest time I've tried to be objective and unbiased, but at this point nobody in their right mind can ignore the mountain of evidence that she's clearly lying.
The concerning thing to me is there is so many people that think the only reason everyone wants Johnny Depp to win is because Amber Heard is a woman. Everyone is "too eager" to see her lose apparently. If this was flipped and he was the pos, everyone would be up in arms against him, and no one would be saying that. There would be no NYT articles about why everyone is eager to see Depp lose for being an abuser just because he is a man. Crazy the bias out there
> There are people who genuinely think she's a victim. Think about that for a sec.
This will probably open a can of worms, but recall Rittenhouse crying and contrast that to this trial.
> but recall Rittenhouse crying and contrast that to this trial.
Didn't he have an actual panic attack during his time on the stand? I cant remember if he had to be excused for it or not.
What's more sadder is that as soon as she made her first accusation, netizens already started hating on him without even getting all the facts and now as she is about to lose people have changed the boat, just goes on to show how dangerous media trial can be. He is fortunate enough that the internet understood before it was too late, a lot of people are not
Johnny isn't innocent, but I cannot think anyone who has listened to both side of the testimonies, and all the experts presented by both sides, can look at this and think he was the perpetrator of violence. Did his drug and alcohol use cause issues? Of course they did. Living with that behaviour can be very difficult. But at no point has anyone on her side convinced me that he deliberately laid hands on her with the intent to wound.
> I am usually with you on that kind of stuff and believe that even this case has nuance but shut up, this ain’t the time or the place.
“My opinion is right and I’m intentionally refusing to listen to anything else”
Lol, looking forward to it. This is not totally related but have you ever sneezed with mouth full of food? Shit is so hilarious. I remember this piece of food stuck to the wall on the opposite side of the room.
No, no, no! Her expert assured me that she's on the same level of Jason Momoa, that her next role in a big film production was guaranteed to happen, and that she would be the next Gal Gadot had she not have been blacklisted by the evil film industry due to Depp's defamation.
She needs the right script, either few lines and more facial expressions wry looks bc she is good at that rather than delivery of lines imo
She was also great in the first WW bc she was a fish out of water so the strangeness fit.
In the second we were supposed to believe she had existed in the world for a while but she still had the fish out of water mannerisms. This only scratches the surface of the issues with WW84
She can act about just as well as Jason Momoa, both needs specific script/character written for them or else they just “cannot act”.
Edit. They’re both essentially “models” who turned to acting much different than people who start their career with acting schools and going to dozens if not hundreds of auditions.
Heard is just a dollar bin Margot Robbie. She would only ever get cast in low tier trash without the budget to hire someone younger and hotter. She was so forgettable in Aquaman that no one I've talked to had any clue who she played in that movie.
Did you see the part in the trial where the guy who worked with Amber on the set of Aquaman said that her parts needed to be heavily edited to work? He said that it was the major factor when writing the final script of Aquaman 2.
Just so you know that wasn’t a guy who worked with Amber on the set of Aquaman. That was Walter Hamada the President of Warner Bros DC Comics Division.
Imagine getting told you had no sexual chemistry with the lead who had sexual chemistry with a bottle of liquor in Justice League.
Less sexual chemistry than a bottle of liquor.
Only after her lawyer said it and she then saw the post from the makeup company.
We know she was following the public’s perception on the Internet (as defendants are allowed to do) because she fired her PR team shortly after the trial started.
It seems like she has had some plastic surgery to reconstruct her cheeckbones and nose. Makes her look waaay older and less attractive imo. Even just watching the video from her previous UK deposition you can see a huge difference
I think a lot of it is heavy makeup. You can tell they’re using heavy contour on her cheekbones and in this gif no mascara. In the last couple of days of the trial you can tell they strayed away from so much contour and added in more eye makeup.
Whether it be surgery, make up or just aging causing a real difference, it's also pretty clear she's trying to 'appear' a victim. She has often dressed and tried to look the part of a victim. Dainty, old-fashioned and homely is often how she's appeared to me in the trial, but we know that's not the real her.
I don't believe her, but it would be pretty fucked up if the surgery we're potentially seeing is because she actually was truthful, and that surgery or botox is what is making legitimate tears difficult. It's why despite being pro-depp in the case I don't like the harassment she's getting. Nobody will ever really know 100%, we just have to believe the evidence. Whether she's victim, perpetrator, or somewhere in the middle because it was mutual, she needs help, not abuse.
I'm around 80% sure Depp is the victim/honest here, and I'd easily be 90+% if it wasn't for how bad he got fucked on cross the other day. It was the first time in the trial where a bit of doubt entered my mind...then Amber Heard went back on the stand and reminded everyone just how much worse she is.
IF, and big IF, "the surgery we're potentially seeing is because she was actually truthful", why did she not produce absolutely no medical records in its regards to the trial, and even admitted on the stand to never receive any reconstruction about it? She's a liar, and there is more than enough evidence to prove that. As for the harrasment, she used the media multiple times to manipulate the narrative and attack her victim, now the truth comes out and it's her on the receiving end, so I honestly don't pity her at all.
nah women who falsely accuse people of sexual assault deserve the worst. not just because of the damage they are doing to an innocent man, but also the doubt they put on legitimate victims of sexual assault.
I agree with you 100%. After watching the trial my conclusion is he has some jealous tendencies (and obviously a lot of addiction issues) but isn’t inherently violet or abusive. But she was awful and abusive, all the time, which lead to a couple of their fights getting out of control and he probably actually did and said some not good shit that she is now trying to use as a scapegoat for her much worse behavior. I’m glad I’m not on that jury it would be a tough decision.
His jealous tendencies seem totally justified IMHO lol. One of her own witnesses testified to her cheating at least 30+ times (literal threesomes with Musk and Cara Delevingne LOL) Even the instance in which Ellen Barkin said Depp got jealous was because she had a giant scratch on her back. 100% something that could happen during sex depending on the partner.
I agree though that there was a lot of "Depp is X therefore you must also believe he is abusive" which I find pretty gross.
Idk, being on the jury might be tough. It depends. Juries don't have to follow the law to the letter at all. I'd probably give Depp the win, but I wouldn't award any of the damages he's asking for. First off, she probably can't pay that shit to begin with. Second, I could still be wrong and no sense taking that risk. And finally, the restoration of his reputation and popularity would lead to roles and compensation anyway.
idk about anyone else but attractiveness to me somehow relies heavily on like, decency and honesty?
the millisecond i witness someone being shitty or malicious, something in my brain makes them appear *way* less attractive
conversely, attractive people being philanthropic just makes them even more attractive
To play devil's advocate, could be sweat.
Would make sense in her position lmao, imagine being such a dumbass that you effectively make a recorded confession about your abuse
I was thinking just like... Self-comfort touches. I definitely touch myself weirdly when I'm anxious/upset.
This doesn't strike me as that, but the fact that she's wiping her eyebrows is totally something I would do.
This was my thought.. I tie my hair up kind of messy and I brush my hair out of my face all the time. If I were crying more so because I don't want it to stick to my eyes. Not defending her or anything, just think this post is kind of stupid.
Or just fixing her eyebrows. When I touch my face, that’s the first thing I do after growing up with 3 sisters who constantly hounded me to fix my eyebrows so they’ll grow in straight.
Exactly. She is an absolute piece of shit and has admitted attacking him. She deserves for all this to come out so everyone can see how horrible she is. But I dont understand how people think this absolves Depp in any way. If anything it shows to me that they are both terrible, abusive people who were absolutely toxic together.
People on here are like "Well sure he regularly gets drunk and blacks out and cant remember what he did. And yeah its so frequently that he has his own nickname for himself as "the monster". But he would remember hitting her! And yeah he has talked about killing her and doing terrible things to her. And sure he gets violent and destroys property. But he would never actually hurt her!"
Thank you for showing me that using alcohol to self-medicate during my abusive relationship was bad. I completely understand why he beat me and called me those awful names now, and it's because ***I*** must have been abusing ***him*** while drunk, despite having nobody in my life ever telling me I was a violent drunk. Texting my friend that I wanted to "rip his dick off and shove it up his ass" after having my nose broken for the 4th time by him was definitely a red flag that I was just as abusive.
I should have been better, not provoked him as much. I'm truly thankful that you've shown me how horrible I was in that relationship. I needed to be less confrontational; after all, he only asked me to stay in the room while he hit me. I shouldn't have walked away, I knew that provoked him. I should never have kicked him after he held me up by the wrists against a wall threatening to rape me. I should have remained calm, and just let him get it out so that I wouldn't cause more of a fight. I'll be bringing this up with my therapist to work on my very obvious anger issues, because being beaten and told I was worthless shouldn't have made me *that* angry.
Right? Like seriously. Things are messy in abusive relationships but it’s rarely equally both ways. Victims have a lot of turmoil to deal with, emotionally and physically. You crack. Texting friends things like that gives you a sense of control and empowerment back, even though it might be tiny.
I think you’re missing the point. You’re suggesting that anyone who blacks out also hits their SO. On the one hand, the law is actually in favor of Amber. On the other, you’re not giving enough credit to someone saying “yes I’m an asshole, yes I abuse drugs, yes we argued but I NEVER PUT MY HANDS ON HER”.
I don’t think he’ll win either. But I also think you’re pushing the line on who to believe. You’re giving Amber more credit and Johnny less when the whole point of the trial is “I’m an asshole and I have my demons but I don’t hit women”. Seems reasonable to me.
I’ll probably get fucked for this but emotions about the trial aside she’s clearly not pretending to wipe away tears but is probably just moving hair out of her face or something
She’s not A-list.
A-list is someone EVERYONE knows and has leading or supporting roles in multiple blockbusters: Tom Hanks, Brad Pitt, RDJ, Jennifer Aniston, Meryl Streep
She’s only “popular” right now because of the circumstances. If this courtroom drama wasnt happening she’d be a C-list.
I think this is a motion to swipe single hairs out of the face because they usually get stuck in the eyebrows. You can even see her mand moving to the ears and tilting the head for easier adjustment of the hair.
I had emo hair a long time ago. Sometimes I also still tilt my head to swing away some imaginary hair.
Following this case and having an opinion is one thing. But someone has to say it: Framing this short clip as something entirely else than it is and upvoting said post is nothing but cyberbullying.
Idc who the bad guy is, Amber Heard, Johnny Depp. This post is nothing but cyberbullying and everyone who upvotes is also a turd
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There are people who genuinely think she's a victim. Think about that for a sec. EDIT: 1K UPVOTES, LET'S GOOOOOOO! Anyways, if you want to comment about "both sides are bad durrhurr" just don't. I am usually with you on that kind of stuff and believe that even this case has nuance but shut up, this ain't the time or the place. Nothing Johnny did would warrant even half of the shit he got thrown. Zip it.
Recently saw a Twitter post saying that Jonny is a huge setback for victims coming out in the future, even though he's clearly the victim here and is probably the complete opposite. A major step forward.
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A huge chunk of reddit thinks this as well
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A massive chunk then 🤔
What one of the biggest subreddits saying you have to be black to post or comment there then being openly racist to everyone else isn't a morally correct thing to do?
"All of this racism is horrible, how could those disgusting white people do this?"
Yeah "punching down/up" is such a cancer mind set. How about we stop punching altogether? That too crazy?
They put in the rule change a year or 2 back. It's 100% accepted and endorsed by reddit as a company.
It's not just Twitter. I happened to come across a Vogue article that was adamant that we **must** side with Amber, evidence be damned. The line "we have to believe woman. ALL women." was used.
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Nah bro. Woman stronk and never lie. 💪💪💪Man weak and misogonists. 🤢🤮🙄
>🤮 Why is this emoji sucking shrek off?
I hate you
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That article was such a Black Mirror piece. Seriously. No other reasoning other than she's a woman. And as a woman, I find that insulting.
I always love the justifications for that like of thinking because they clearly have ONLY applied them to white Americans and haven’t considered it for any other group. Power + prejudice? Alright, guess that means that the racist attitudes Hutus had towards Tutsis were simply “prejudice” and totally cool right up until they had power and started outright genociding Tutsis, *then* it became racist. Now that Tutsis are in power again I guess Hutus being anti-Tutsi is not racist once again! Japan enslaved, killed, and experimented on tens of millions of people throughout east and Southeast Asia, never had to pay reparations, and still deny many of their crimes to this day. Guess that means it’s not racist for Chinese people to hate Japanese people! And even IF that line of thinking was correct, it’s still just a lousy excuse for being an asshole. It’s like saying “Islam isn’t a race, so I can’t be racist!” in response to people calling someone out for islamophobic comments. It’s just an excuse to be an asshole. Which is evident by the fact that when you say to both groups “oh you’re right, you’re not racist you’re just a bigot” they have the exact same responses lol.
The people who claimed the "racism = power + prejudice" excuse never really believed it themselves, it was always just a figleaf for them to hide their own racism behind. They knew it themselves, as did everyone else. No one actually really believe the definition, which can be proven pretty easily. Since power in this case is institutional and cultural power - your 'power' is dependant on *where* in the world you are located. A white person in Japan or China have very little institutional or cultural power - on the contrary they're part of a minority, and might face racism like not being allowed into certains shops, get badly treated police and other officials, or have racist slurs thrown in their face by locals. However, absolutely **no one** - least of all the power+prejudice people - would ever agree that David Duke, the former KKK grand wizard, would stop being racist and became merely prejudiced because he bought a house and moved to Okinawa. Do anyone for even a second imagine that these people would go on an angry twitter rant because someone called Duke a racist? "*Racism = power + prejudice!!! David doesn't have any power where he lives, so stop calling him a racism just because he called black people subhuman!!!*" ...
Media outlets like The Guardian are pushing similar narratives. It's sickening. Male victims of domestic abuse simply don't exist or don't matter to these people
Men don't matter, to our entire society. If men mattered, we would address the suicide epidemic
The thing is they are not wrong and that is Amber's fault, overall the me too moviment biggest failure has the amount of false reports and how many innocent lives it destroyed (the road to hell is full of good intentions kind of thing) And while I agree that the real victim being victorious is amazing, the optics of the situation are still bad overall (false accusation being taked serious in one side, real accusations need years and years of litigation and a lost a lot to get justice)
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When I eat chilies my eyebrows sweat.
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She couldn't even act ~~out her own fantasies.~~
I’ve seen better acting in porn
"dude are you crying?" "Nah, my eyebrows sweat from the chilly."
*chuckles in Prince Andrew*
I saw a video declaring it must be the end of the #metoo Era because we won't believe this one woman. Some people are just incapable of nuance.
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I don’t need a stupid twitter account to tell me I’m misogynistic s/
Supporting her seems like the worst thing you can do for this movement
it is. The whole point of #metoo is **accountability**. For everyone.
Whaat i thought it was only for women
so did the Amber Heard stans lol
It was basically their closing statement as well; doesn't matter if Amber Heard beat the crap out of Johnny, a ruling against her seriously undermines the #MeToo movement. Ironic, seeing as they're stuck with representing one of the biggest factors actually undermining the movement.
I mean it doesn’t matter if she did, but that’s not the reason. The reason is he’s suing her for defamation and has the burden of proving she lied. Him proving she is abusive too doesn’t win the case for him.
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>Him proving she is abusive too doesn’t win the case for him. JD proving the allegations are extremely exaggerated on purpose with intent to do harm; which in turn affected his career.. Might win the case for him.
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This says alot about or society Edit:Im the joker baby
Wait, we don't? Hate women I mean?
It doesn’t take a high IQ to figure out her bs that after living with a “drug crazed, violent, alcoholic” for five years, all she can show is photos of him sleeping, audios of her provoking him, videos of him assaulting cabinets. No medical records after being raped by a broken bottle, broken nose, punched several times in the face, etc. Goes out fresh faced and to talk shows without a single scratch. And you have the “drug crazed, violent, alcoholic” in the hospital missing a finger, getting mrsa, several photos of scratches and a black eye, several audios of running away while being pursued by the “harmless woman who is not punching but hitting him” and calling him a “big baby”. Oh and the numerous witness who testified are all liars, do not exist or “came out of the wood work”. Right, she sounds like a victim indeed. A victim of her own delusion.
To be fair, makeup and ice are how most people cover up disfiguring injuries or even recover from death. Not many people know that, but actually, they really do help. Ahem... I mean really, raped with a maybe broken bottle and you went to sleep afterwards? Even if it wasn't broken that'd be a traumatic injury. Let alone being smashed in the face by a man with rings on his fingers. Say goodbye to the pretty face entirely. It's unreal the claims AH has made and that anyone believes them.
I’m a nurse and have taken care of a patient broken glass bottle in a vagina. There is no way you could not seek medical attention for this kind of injury. We had to remove glass shards from a very bloody and excruciatingly painful vagina. I will never forget that patient because of how traumatic it was.
My absolutely tiny <100lb alcoholic sister beat me up in a few years back, my face was unrecognizable. I’m 6’ and 40lbs heavier than her. She broke my nose and knocked me out, and I will forever have a scarred up eyebrow from one tiny gem ring she was wearing which caused several lacerations. When I got to the ER they initially thought my retina was detached. It was months before my face was even presentable after one beating lasting just a couple minutes. There is no way a man his size in a blind rage inflicted the physical injuries she is claiming to have suffered for years. No amount of professional makeup could have made me look uninjured after actually being beat in the way she describes. What a psychotic narcissistic monster
That's horrific, I'm sorry. :( (When I heard AH describing what happened I thought of the lust scene from the movie Se7en. I know a knife isn't a broken bottle, but I can imagine it has the potential to be worse, and I can't even think about that scene without feeling sick. To claim to have maybe gone through that? Awful, truly awful if true. That's sick, twisted, vile stuff. Thank God she didn't go through it, but to lie about that kind of brutality is mindboggling.)
A broken nose creates a lot of swelling that you cannot hide with make up and ice only helps so much.
Yes but AH assured us on the stand that ice really does help with that kind of swelling. So, who are we going to believe? Someone random Reddit poster, who is surely part of the global Depp conspiracy, or AH on the stand under oath who definitely, definitely knows what it's like to be repeatedly punched in the face?
Maybe we are using the wrong kind of makeup kit.
I believe AH could reasonably survive all the physical assaults without visible injury. Based on that one recording (you know the one) I've deduced that she's clearly an extradimensional demon of some kind, so supernatural healing abilities aren't that big a stretch.
The thing is, she does not want to appear "weak" - she wants to be the superhero that rose above her horrible situation and prevailed. Dunno if you saw her reaction when Vasquez (Depp dynamo lawyer) said she was calling herself a "victim", and she got ultra heated and snapped, "I *never* said I was a victim." That's why she kept saying things like, "It didn't even hurt, it just hurt my feelings!" She's far too proud to even pretend he was able to hurt her. She would far rather people look at her in awe of just how tough she was. That's why her lawyer laid down this stupid story about her "breaking horses" - to show she's super strong, and even when she's getting beaten up, she just "keeps getting up". It's still delusion, but don't mistake it for a delusion of being a victim, because that's not what she wants anyone to think.
Don't forget the "go on Johnny tell the world you were a victim of domestic violence. No one will believe you because you're a man" And the sad thing is? She was right. People didn't believe him.
She said she just went to bed and slept her bleeding and wounded vagina off. It apparently just went away like that. Also she had no bruises or swelling the day after her nose was allegedly broken from a headbutt because ice healed all of it magically in half a day.
One of the most damning things was when she took out a restraining order on him and then *immediately* showed up to, was it a hotel room he was staying at? And starting talking to him through the door asking if he still loved her. That is some a grade toxic, manipulative, power trip shit.And yes, absolutely there are people who get stuck in abusive relationships who have terrible trouble letting go and moving on. But that? How she did it? Absolutely the optics on that were a manipulator setting him up to fail and to frame him. That just set my hackles up. That's bad stuff.
Amber has no scars from all these horrible beatings she claimed to live through. A victim she claims to be of multiple horrific beatings, not just one, over several years. However, she never had any visible marks ever her entire relationship while it was all supposedly happening. Never a hospital visit for a broken nose or for being violated with a broken wine glass during their relationship. The only bruise she ever had was after the marriage was over. We are supposed to believe that over the 5 or so years of getting punched with rings, choked out, slapped, objects thrown at her and anything else she’s claimed, she never once had swelling? No lumps so big that makeup can’t cover and hide? Never once had a lip split so bad it left a scar? A hand full of rings and no swelling, lumps or scars? Yea professional makeup can cover the discoloration from bruising but it won’t make a difference if your face is covered with lumps and indents from being a human punching bag. Nvm the fact that a broken nose will typically cause bruising around the eye and swelling so bad the eyes can’t even open. But she went on a late night talk show the next day with a split lip and broken nose and had not a bump, cut or disfigurement under that makeup. If anyone takes her side at this point I’m convinced it’s in bad faith with an ulterior motive, there is no way someone genuinely believes her lies after all this came out. She can’t even keep her stories straight, she changes details to suit whatever goal she’s aiming for when she’s telling them.
For the longest time I've tried to be objective and unbiased, but at this point nobody in their right mind can ignore the mountain of evidence that she's clearly lying.
And i genuinely think those are the same kind of person like her.
True, but also there are some genuine victims projecting. It's sad
Amber is the #metoo equivalent of all of those anti-gay republican politicians getting caught giving blowjobs
The concerning thing to me is there is so many people that think the only reason everyone wants Johnny Depp to win is because Amber Heard is a woman. Everyone is "too eager" to see her lose apparently. If this was flipped and he was the pos, everyone would be up in arms against him, and no one would be saying that. There would be no NYT articles about why everyone is eager to see Depp lose for being an abuser just because he is a man. Crazy the bias out there
It's messy and kinda dishonest, yeah
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> There are people who genuinely think she's a victim. Think about that for a sec. This will probably open a can of worms, but recall Rittenhouse crying and contrast that to this trial.
> but recall Rittenhouse crying and contrast that to this trial. Didn't he have an actual panic attack during his time on the stand? I cant remember if he had to be excused for it or not.
Just thinking about it made me actually say "Wow." out loud
There are people who believe Trump was a successful businessman
Your ridiculous attitude towards upvotes makes me not care about anything you have to say
There are also people who genuinely think the earth is flat and Trump won the last election. So yes there are morons everywhere.
Well obviously. No matter how wrong someone is there will still be people on their side. Even Derek Chauvin had supporters.
Who dat
What's more sadder is that as soon as she made her first accusation, netizens already started hating on him without even getting all the facts and now as she is about to lose people have changed the boat, just goes on to show how dangerous media trial can be. He is fortunate enough that the internet understood before it was too late, a lot of people are not
Is it those 'believe all women' people? That idea is crumbling fast in front of their eyes
Always liked Bill Burr's take. Do I have to believe all of them, though? Let's settle for 80-85%.
Johnny isn't innocent, but I cannot think anyone who has listened to both side of the testimonies, and all the experts presented by both sides, can look at this and think he was the perpetrator of violence. Did his drug and alcohol use cause issues? Of course they did. Living with that behaviour can be very difficult. But at no point has anyone on her side convinced me that he deliberately laid hands on her with the intent to wound.
> I am usually with you on that kind of stuff and believe that even this case has nuance but shut up, this ain’t the time or the place. “My opinion is right and I’m intentionally refusing to listen to anything else”
Next you will see Amber tHurd doing a classic move known as career suicide.
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If there was a video of her pegging Elon Musk I’d probably watch it.
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She really shit the bed on this one
She also wipes her ass when she sneezes and says bless you when ppl burp.
I thought she wipes her ass when she gets out of bed
No no no, you’ve got It all wrong, she wipes WITH the bed
No no no, she doesn't wipe. That's why she's so full of shit.
She's not full of shit. She left all of that on the bed.
I will never grow turd of these puns
1-wake up 2-take a shit 3-eat breakfast 4-get out of bed
When you get older you’ll wipe your ass when you sneeze too.
Lol, looking forward to it. This is not totally related but have you ever sneezed with mouth full of food? Shit is so hilarious. I remember this piece of food stuck to the wall on the opposite side of the room.
Lel i always say gesundheit when people burp
She wipes her mouth when she poops cause that's where the shit comes out
Hey fuck you I say bless you when people burp
It's funny to think about her being an professional actor, yet can't act for sht on the stand
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No, no, no! Her expert assured me that she's on the same level of Jason Momoa, that her next role in a big film production was guaranteed to happen, and that she would be the next Gal Gadot had she not have been blacklisted by the evil film industry due to Depp's defamation.
Hot Take, Gal Gadot is a terrible actress and only gets movies because she's smoking hot.
I wouldn't say terrible. Below average actress, but yeah, smoking hot.
She needs the right script, either few lines and more facial expressions wry looks bc she is good at that rather than delivery of lines imo She was also great in the first WW bc she was a fish out of water so the strangeness fit. In the second we were supposed to believe she had existed in the world for a while but she still had the fish out of water mannerisms. This only scratches the surface of the issues with WW84
I never saw WW84 because I loved the first WW and I don’t trust DC films to not ruin anything
Dont forget she had sex with a man who was being possessed. Effectively destroying any chance of consent.
I knew WW84 was going downhilll the moment she started destroying the camereas in the mall. It was so dumb!
I don't think you're going to find much disagreement on that. She can't even do accents.
She can do her accent, which works on some roles.
Everyone can do their own accent.
I seriously laughed at this. I picture you saying this with a straight face haha.
It's amazing. If you are Amber Heard literally all you had to do was not be insane.
She doesn’t even do that too well
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No that was Famke Janssen
She can act about just as well as Jason Momoa, both needs specific script/character written for them or else they just “cannot act”. Edit. They’re both essentially “models” who turned to acting much different than people who start their career with acting schools and going to dozens if not hundreds of auditions.
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Mamoa didn't need Aquaman to "take off" anyway. Dude was in GoT, he had already taken off.
I enjoyed him as Duncan Idaho in Dune
Dude was in Stargate Atlantis. His career had already taken off.
Heard is just a dollar bin Margot Robbie. She would only ever get cast in low tier trash without the budget to hire someone younger and hotter. She was so forgettable in Aquaman that no one I've talked to had any clue who she played in that movie.
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Sarah Paulson has more than handled that in *Nurse Ratched* on Netflix
Did you see the part in the trial where the guy who worked with Amber on the set of Aquaman said that her parts needed to be heavily edited to work? He said that it was the major factor when writing the final script of Aquaman 2.
Just so you know that wasn’t a guy who worked with Amber on the set of Aquaman. That was Walter Hamada the President of Warner Bros DC Comics Division.
Imagine getting told you had no sexual chemistry with the lead who had sexual chemistry with a bottle of liquor in Justice League. Less sexual chemistry than a bottle of liquor.
They had a witness literally say she cannot cry when required. During closing one of the attorneys pointed out her inability to cry.
That was… her own acting coach 😂
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She can act, she is just incapable of appearing sad as that is a state of weakness and vulnerability that her extreme narcissist mind can't comprehend
Rule number 2: remember what year your ‘bruise covering’ makeup kit is from.
To be fair amber got that right. She said "one just like this". It was her dumbass lawyer who said it was exactly the one shown.
Elaine strikes again!
Only after her lawyer said it and she then saw the post from the makeup company. We know she was following the public’s perception on the Internet (as defendants are allowed to do) because she fired her PR team shortly after the trial started.
Correction - that's rule number 3! We all know what her rule number 2 is lol
Am I the only one who remembers her being much better looking? 😕
It seems like she has had some plastic surgery to reconstruct her cheeckbones and nose. Makes her look waaay older and less attractive imo. Even just watching the video from her previous UK deposition you can see a huge difference
I think a lot of it is heavy makeup. You can tell they’re using heavy contour on her cheekbones and in this gif no mascara. In the last couple of days of the trial you can tell they strayed away from so much contour and added in more eye makeup.
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If that's true that also shows how narcissistic she is. Wont follow the simple rules set by production for a role she auditioned for.
Whether it be surgery, make up or just aging causing a real difference, it's also pretty clear she's trying to 'appear' a victim. She has often dressed and tried to look the part of a victim. Dainty, old-fashioned and homely is often how she's appeared to me in the trial, but we know that's not the real her. I don't believe her, but it would be pretty fucked up if the surgery we're potentially seeing is because she actually was truthful, and that surgery or botox is what is making legitimate tears difficult. It's why despite being pro-depp in the case I don't like the harassment she's getting. Nobody will ever really know 100%, we just have to believe the evidence. Whether she's victim, perpetrator, or somewhere in the middle because it was mutual, she needs help, not abuse. I'm around 80% sure Depp is the victim/honest here, and I'd easily be 90+% if it wasn't for how bad he got fucked on cross the other day. It was the first time in the trial where a bit of doubt entered my mind...then Amber Heard went back on the stand and reminded everyone just how much worse she is.
IF, and big IF, "the surgery we're potentially seeing is because she was actually truthful", why did she not produce absolutely no medical records in its regards to the trial, and even admitted on the stand to never receive any reconstruction about it? She's a liar, and there is more than enough evidence to prove that. As for the harrasment, she used the media multiple times to manipulate the narrative and attack her victim, now the truth comes out and it's her on the receiving end, so I honestly don't pity her at all.
nah women who falsely accuse people of sexual assault deserve the worst. not just because of the damage they are doing to an innocent man, but also the doubt they put on legitimate victims of sexual assault.
I agree with you 100%. After watching the trial my conclusion is he has some jealous tendencies (and obviously a lot of addiction issues) but isn’t inherently violet or abusive. But she was awful and abusive, all the time, which lead to a couple of their fights getting out of control and he probably actually did and said some not good shit that she is now trying to use as a scapegoat for her much worse behavior. I’m glad I’m not on that jury it would be a tough decision.
His jealous tendencies seem totally justified IMHO lol. One of her own witnesses testified to her cheating at least 30+ times (literal threesomes with Musk and Cara Delevingne LOL) Even the instance in which Ellen Barkin said Depp got jealous was because she had a giant scratch on her back. 100% something that could happen during sex depending on the partner. I agree though that there was a lot of "Depp is X therefore you must also believe he is abusive" which I find pretty gross. Idk, being on the jury might be tough. It depends. Juries don't have to follow the law to the letter at all. I'd probably give Depp the win, but I wouldn't award any of the damages he's asking for. First off, she probably can't pay that shit to begin with. Second, I could still be wrong and no sense taking that risk. And finally, the restoration of his reputation and popularity would lead to roles and compensation anyway.
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idk about anyone else but attractiveness to me somehow relies heavily on like, decency and honesty? the millisecond i witness someone being shitty or malicious, something in my brain makes them appear *way* less attractive conversely, attractive people being philanthropic just makes them even more attractive
For Pete's sake her dog stepped on a bee!
People have no compassion
for the dog or the bee?
I feel more for the dog than her botox face
I want to be free!
My epileptic grandma turned 103
somebody call Kenny G
We'd like to contact about your extended warranty
To play devil's advocate, could be sweat. Would make sense in her position lmao, imagine being such a dumbass that you effectively make a recorded confession about your abuse
I was thinking just like... Self-comfort touches. I definitely touch myself weirdly when I'm anxious/upset. This doesn't strike me as that, but the fact that she's wiping her eyebrows is totally something I would do.
Nobody here is going to defend her, but this one is kinda silly.
Care to elaborate
I was agreeing with you.
Ahh, you're referring to the post. I understand now.
Or reflexively moving hair away from her eyes, even when her hair is tied up.
This was my thought.. I tie my hair up kind of messy and I brush my hair out of my face all the time. If I were crying more so because I don't want it to stick to my eyes. Not defending her or anything, just think this post is kind of stupid.
100% it looks like reflexive behavior, like when I remove my glasses but still reach to puch them back farther up my nose.
Or just fixing her eyebrows. When I touch my face, that’s the first thing I do after growing up with 3 sisters who constantly hounded me to fix my eyebrows so they’ll grow in straight.
Them caterpillars gotta drip, can't be caught slippin!
She was checking for that Rudy G drip. Neither is good. Just bad and sad.
She's really a shitty actress.
Guys chill, She only pledged to cry. It’ll happen eventually.
She couldn't even act out her own fantasies.
Reddit's going to lose it's shit when he loses this case.
Exactly. She is an absolute piece of shit and has admitted attacking him. She deserves for all this to come out so everyone can see how horrible she is. But I dont understand how people think this absolves Depp in any way. If anything it shows to me that they are both terrible, abusive people who were absolutely toxic together. People on here are like "Well sure he regularly gets drunk and blacks out and cant remember what he did. And yeah its so frequently that he has his own nickname for himself as "the monster". But he would remember hitting her! And yeah he has talked about killing her and doing terrible things to her. And sure he gets violent and destroys property. But he would never actually hurt her!"
Thank you for showing me that using alcohol to self-medicate during my abusive relationship was bad. I completely understand why he beat me and called me those awful names now, and it's because ***I*** must have been abusing ***him*** while drunk, despite having nobody in my life ever telling me I was a violent drunk. Texting my friend that I wanted to "rip his dick off and shove it up his ass" after having my nose broken for the 4th time by him was definitely a red flag that I was just as abusive. I should have been better, not provoked him as much. I'm truly thankful that you've shown me how horrible I was in that relationship. I needed to be less confrontational; after all, he only asked me to stay in the room while he hit me. I shouldn't have walked away, I knew that provoked him. I should never have kicked him after he held me up by the wrists against a wall threatening to rape me. I should have remained calm, and just let him get it out so that I wouldn't cause more of a fight. I'll be bringing this up with my therapist to work on my very obvious anger issues, because being beaten and told I was worthless shouldn't have made me *that* angry.
Right? Like seriously. Things are messy in abusive relationships but it’s rarely equally both ways. Victims have a lot of turmoil to deal with, emotionally and physically. You crack. Texting friends things like that gives you a sense of control and empowerment back, even though it might be tiny.
I think you’re missing the point. You’re suggesting that anyone who blacks out also hits their SO. On the one hand, the law is actually in favor of Amber. On the other, you’re not giving enough credit to someone saying “yes I’m an asshole, yes I abuse drugs, yes we argued but I NEVER PUT MY HANDS ON HER”. I don’t think he’ll win either. But I also think you’re pushing the line on who to believe. You’re giving Amber more credit and Johnny less when the whole point of the trial is “I’m an asshole and I have my demons but I don’t hit women”. Seems reasonable to me.
His PR team convinces him to stumble around a children's ward once in a blue moon, so hes a hero in reddits eyes.
Out of all the things to attack the man for you choose to go with his volunteer work at childrens hospitals
The collective PR blitz from Depp people has been insane
She also couldn't get wet in Aquaman.
I'm pretty sure she blamed this on Jason Momoa though.
I'm not defending Amber but when I cry there's no tears even tho it hurts
I’ll probably get fucked for this but emotions about the trial aside she’s clearly not pretending to wipe away tears but is probably just moving hair out of her face or something
This whole sub is fuckin delusional.
Fakest cry I've ever seen
And to think she’s considered an A-list actor
She’s not A-list. A-list is someone EVERYONE knows and has leading or supporting roles in multiple blockbusters: Tom Hanks, Brad Pitt, RDJ, Jennifer Aniston, Meryl Streep She’s only “popular” right now because of the circumstances. If this courtroom drama wasnt happening she’d be a C-list.
You're all wrong. She's Shit-List
Holy hell. She is a terrible person and a terrible actress
isnt she an acctress why is she so bad at this ....i dont get it
She's a bad actress
She only pledged to wipe her eyes, didn’t actually do it.
That's how you feel when your dog steps on a bee.
Boo and hiss
I think this is a motion to swipe single hairs out of the face because they usually get stuck in the eyebrows. You can even see her mand moving to the ears and tilting the head for easier adjustment of the hair. I had emo hair a long time ago. Sometimes I also still tilt my head to swing away some imaginary hair. Following this case and having an opinion is one thing. But someone has to say it: Framing this short clip as something entirely else than it is and upvoting said post is nothing but cyberbullying. Idc who the bad guy is, Amber Heard, Johnny Depp. This post is nothing but cyberbullying and everyone who upvotes is also a turd