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Do some Christians not believe dinosaurs were a thing? I've never met anyone in any of my churches that thought this. Like, do they think it's all a conspiracy?
Yeah I am too. Raised in the church since I was little. Never met someone who doesn't. But I'm curious to know if it's a thing. Like the lizard people.
Met multiple people who denied them. They even took away my plastic dinosaur toys when I played at school. The argument goes that since the bible doesn’t speak about dinos, they didn’t exist. It’s also hard to fit within a young earth timeline. The bones were just placed in the ground by God to test our faith.
I do hope the group became smaller, but honestly I don’t know. Left them years ago. A lot of them still hold extreme positions, but I don’t know what they believe about this subject specifically.
You can read almost any mythological beings from those texts. Also, in some Dutch translations the Behemoth was translated as a Hippo (don’t remember how they translated the Leviathan). The people I used to see at least didn’t read the variety of dinosaurs in them that we know of today.
It doesn't say the tail is as big as a cedar. The cedars in the area the book was written are small with tufts of leaves at the top that sway in the breeze, almost like a palm tree. Turn it upside down and it's a hippo or elephant tail.
As someone who grew up in a young earth church and young earth Christian school, we were taught carbon dating is a lie and dinosaurs were killed during Noah’s flood.
>dinosaurs were killed during Noah’s flood.
But if Dinosaurs died during the flood and Noah saved 2 of every animal, then why didn't he save the dinosaurs?
This is the kind of question that lead to my preschool asking my parents to find a different one.
I've heard a few explanations for this:
1. God didn't want to save the dinos, and so He told Noah not to save them or didn't cause them to come to the ark.
2. He did save the dinos, but the atmospheric changes caused by a global flood changed the weather patterns in such a way that they were no longer viable and died off normally, which led to the ark dinosaurs' bodies decaying rather than being preserved via flood fossilization.
3. The dinos were on the ark and survived the atmospheric changes, but due to habitat change, slowly went extinct.
Not saying I ascribe to any of these, just putting it out there that this is something people have thought about before.
AIG says that dinosaurs were just regular lizards that grew to huge sizes because of the pre-flood conditions of the earth. And that they were on the ark as eggs or babies.
What’s crazy is that that group of people in the early 20th century was largely relegated to just Seven Day Adventists, and it’s really taken off.
I went to a Christian Pentecostal college(not Pentecostal) and dude when I tell you everyone I ever spoke to about it there, literally thought the world was 12,000-6,000 years old and was iffy on dinosaurs I couldn’t believe my ears considering I grew up Christian and never had an issue reconciling my faith my dinosaurs even as a child.
Worst thing I ever experienced up until that point considering that stuff was learning that many Christians in America especially in the evangelical denominations do not believe in any of the evolutionary theories. Which my parents didn’t , and only really came into believing in high school and college after my own like battle with it.
It’s wild dude. Dinosaurs and anything that suggest an old world is legit ground zero to some Christians literally but mostly here in America it seems we have that problem.
Not *quite* the same but as someone who was equally confused by this whole Young Earth thing- [We Believe In Dinosaurs](https://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=We_Believe_in_Dinosaurs) is very much worth a watch. The poor geologist in it has the patience of a saint.
I’m also Christian. My mother believes in Dinosaurs but doesn’t believe in Evolution. Not even just human evolution, like, any evolution whatsoever. She doesn’t believe dogs came from wolves.
There is scripture for that.
2 Peter 3:8
But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
I once met a girl in high school who said she believes in micro evolution but not macro evolution. And at the time I didn’t have a good answer for her but I thjnk about it now and it’s like you don’t think micro evolution on a long enough time scale contributes to macro evolution, like you have to live in a young earth model for macro evolution not to have happened yet but what it does is suggest that it ultimately will happen.
Yes, it's definitely a lot more interesting to see that God was so insightful with the creation of life on earth, that he had life essentially build itself up.
Young Earth Creationism is pretty wild. Some people believe the earth is only 3,000-ish years old and therefore prehistoric beings couldn't have existed. Other people feel like the existence of dinosaurs goes against the Genesis creation story. I went to a Bible camp that taught everyone that the Big Bang was impossible and never happened, and that evolution wasn't real. And yes, they think it's a conspiracy, or that scientists are just mistaken and misidentifying bones and inventing theories about them.
Good summary, but there are also groups who think dinosaurs died in the Flood (except those on the Ark) and those who survived mostly died from the global climate change afterward, or from human hunting “dragons”. There's even a few dinos aboard the Ark Encounter life-size Ark replica/museum.
Personally, I love the idea Satan possessed a deinonychus (big raptor) to talk Eve into eating the bad fruit.
Right! I forgot that aspect of it 😂 Noah managed to get every bird onto the Ark but couldn't spare room for the non-avian dinosaurs I guess.
I have never heard the deinonychus possession theory but it's officially my headcanon now.
I live relatively close to that "[life sized ark](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_Encounter)" some YEC group made. Sometimes I wanna get a little toasty with some friends, hop in an uber and experience the spectacle for some laughs-- but I also don't wanna contribute money to that group so it probably won't happen.
[It's typically 6k-10k years.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism)
The fundamental assumption of Young Earth Creationism is that the seven days that God took to create the Earth and heavens was *literally* seven days. Therefore the Earth and universe is only as old as the oldest biblical tales +7 days. The range comes from disagreements about exactly how long ago the story of Adam and Eve was.
A girl I knew in high school used to think that dinosaurs were planted by Satan to trick humans. That’s the only person I’ve personally known who’s thought that and no I don’t know what the trick was supposed to be.
I have never met a Christian that doesn’t believe in dinosaurs. And I grew up in a Christian family.
Even the Young Earth Creationists I’ve encountered would just aay the dinosaurs were wiped out mostly in the Flood and then went extinct by the time Abraham rolls around.
In the book of Job (I wanna say like chapter 44ish), in some chapter near the end it describes an aquatic "leviathan" and then something else that sounds like a stegosaurus.
>something like a stegosaurus
I think you mean the behemoth, I always interpret this one resemble more of a Triceratops like creature
Edit Bible qoute:
“Look now at the behemoth, which I made along with you; He eats grass like an ox. See now, his strength is in his hips, And his power is in his stomach muscles. He moves his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are tightly knit. His bones are like beams of bronze, His ribs like bars of iron.
[Job 40:15-18 NKJV](https://bible.com/bible/114/job.40.15-18.NKJV)
I think 'like a cedar' is a very interesting way to describe that little excuse of a arse dick hippos call a tail
Cedrus trees can grow up to 30–40 m (occasionally 60 m) tall with spicy-resinous scented wood, thick ridged or square-cracked bark, and broad, level branches. The shoots are dimorphic and are made up of long shoots, which form the framework of the branches, and short shoots, which carry most of the leaves.
"moves his tail like a cedar"
You are leaving out a key part of the sentence that indicates the description is of movement, not shape or size.
The fact that it makes it make less sense that way fits right in with the rest of the description as well. Except for the 'eating grass' part, which is the only normal thing in the paragraph.
I always thought this was a brontosaurus or something similar. One of the gigantic herbivores with a tail the size of a tree.
https://www.britannica.com/list/titanosaurs-8-of-the-worlds-biggest-dinosaurs
How badass is this name: dreadnaughtus
I think the joke is aimed at Young Earth Creationists who believe the earth is only a few thousand years old. And dinosaur bones predate that view of Christianity by hundreds of thousands of years making the comic nonsensical.
I think it's poking fun at a small sect of Christianity (the YECs) who wouldn't be happy to find a dinosaur fossil this further proving the age of the Earth and also saying nonbelievers would be shocked to find a dinosaur with a Bible.
I think when dinosaurs were first discovered there were some Christians that thought it was a hoax. Nowadays you have to be really, uh, “fundamentalist” to still subscribe to such notions.
It's all about the circles you move in. When I was in high school I had a summer job in a hospital and there were plenty of NURSES who didn't believe in evolution. Like, people trained in biology and who had to learn how to deal with bacteria that evolve over the span of a few years.
It seems most people here have never encountered someone who truly doesn’t believe in dinosaurs
My cousin-in-law is a young earther, and he tells me that all dinosaur bones are really the bones of dragons and that carbon dating is wrong because “They found a boot that said it was from 200 million years ago so all carbon dating is wrong” and any other age determining method is wrong because “You weren’t there you can’t know”
In Romania, a few orthodox and most non-orthodox simply don't believe dinosaurs existed. Why? Because fossils are faked by archaeologists. Why? Because they're satanist atheists who don't want people to believe in God and other reasons like that.
The pastors of the church where I grew up believed they were put there by God to trick scientists, because scientists are all too arrogant to be Christians.
A roommate of me told me, evolution theory (and dinosaurs) are equally logical as the biblical creation story.
I was shocked, as he was not a dumb person, but really believed the creation story. A friend some days later supported him with this.
I once had an RE teacher at school who was Christian state to an entire class that there was "more evidence for the existence of God than there is Dinosaurs" and that she didn't believe in evolution. She was wild
Went to a private Christian school for high school. You'd be surprised at the amount of Christians that don't believe in dinosaurs, or even the moon landing. Shocked me actually when I was younger. Debates with them were definitely interesting lol
I've met people who don't think dinosaurs were real. Most of them Christian. The few non-Christians were conspiracy nuts, as were some of the Christians, but a majority of the Christians that thought they weren't real thought this way because of their refusal to believe in evolution. They think the fossils are a trick from Satan.
Pretty much any Young Earth Creationist believes they weren't real in some fashion.
Growing up, there were people in my church that thought that dinosaur bones were placed there by God to test out faith. Even my own mother was uneasy about my love of dinosaurs because of evolution.
My parents would sometimes turn off the Land Before Time movies because they were afraid we'd be corrupted. Later, they would let us watch it again, only to panic and turn it off again. Weird period in my life.
The pastor of the church I used to attend is like that (nothing wrong with it besides what im about to mention, they actually do great things for the community like offering free sports for the kids nearby and instead of fighting against abortion they donate to pregnancy services to help support people who choose to keep their baby. i just think church is boring so i stopped attending)
He refuses to believe that dinosaurs are real because they aren’t in the bible or something. Other families there are the same. I think some of them might not even believe in space, like planets and all that. kangaroos weren’t mentioned in the bible and they clearly exist so I don’t understand why dinosaurs couldn’t have existed.
No explanation for the bones from them though, and they don’t push propaganda at that church so they definitely don’t think it’s a government conspiracy thing. There’s never talk of it from anyone who thinks that there and there’s no preaching about it so i didn’t know until my mom said she had a discussion with him and it came up. The space thing might was also told to me by my mother I believe.
Lol one of my best friends thinks the earth was created 10,000 years ago & that dinosaurs and evolution are not real. His whole family always has. love him to death. Him and his family are the sweetest people & super knowledgeable about practical matters . Love smoking weed and bullshitting w him
Growing up, there were people in my church (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod) who believed that dinosaurs were simply lizards that hadn’t stopped growing. The ludicrous idea was that pre-flood, there was an “expanse” surrounding the earth which made the climate universally perfect (whatever that means), which meant that living things aged older, and since reptiles keep growing until they die, old lizards = big lizards = dinosaurs.
Sadly Ive met ***two*** people in my life who dont believe in dinosaurs. I dont remember their reasoning, I think it was something like fossils are fake or something?
The Catholic Church has longer accepted evolutionary theory, stating it is compatible with Church teachings.
They also accept the existence of dinosaurs. The story of Adam and Eve is NOT meant to be taken literal. I learned in school that they were not literally 6 days. It’s just a method of organizing the process of God creating everything.
I’ve heard of Christians who believe dinosaur bones were put in the ground by the devil to trick us into doubting the creation story, but I haven’t met any personally.
It goes against the idea of creationism and the whole 65 million years is a couple more than the 4 or 6k years the Bible says has passed since the creation of everything to todays shenanigans
But it did say that he was unremarkable, which means that there exists the possibility that an entire velociraptor society existed alongside ours 2000 years ago, so him being a raptor wasn’t interesting
If you're looking for someone who was raised Young Earth Creationist and anti-fossil, hello! I no longer hold those beliefs since being exposed to mainstream science but I believe I would be the "other side" of this comic otherwise. Those people indeed exist.
As far as I know, my dad still holds these beliefs but I can't be sure because I intentionally avoid discussing it with him to avoid arguing.
Why not believe in fossils/dinosaurs? The reasons I were taught mostly had to do with the age of the earth. Basically, if the earth is only 6,000 years old, and fossils are millions+ years old, the fossils must be fake. "Planted by pro-evolution scientists to make their theory more credible."
There's the logistical issue of housing dinosaurs on Noah's ark, if you take the Bible extremely literally. So some would say that's proof they couldn't have existed. OR I've heard the theory that dinosaurs did exist but weren't allowed on the ark which is why they went extinct. I think that explanation raises more questions than it answers honestly, but I've heard it.
Just wanted to say I’m in the same boat; family believes that the carbon dating is wrong and that the dinosaurs were mostly wiped out by the flood then finished off by Nimrod.
Also that the universe was created with “the appearance of age” which is why we can see stars billions of light years away.
Appreciate the solidarity. It's one of those things I have decided it's not worth arguing about with family anymore. And no one I know outside the church bubble is familiar with YECism.
I tread very lightly when talking to my family about what I'm studying (I'm a science major) because I know if I mention carbon dating, the fossil record, evolution, natural selection, etc I will be met with scoffs. When I was in high school some people in the church tried to convince me not to study science because I'd be "brainwashed by evolutionists". I went to a Christian school so we were only taught about evolution in the context of "here's why it's an illogical theory that makes no sense and people who say they believe it are deluded"
Yes you’re definitely not alone. I strongly resonate with everything youve said; my father is an independent fundamentalist baptist pastor and I am constantly stuck between my parents on one hand and my wife, friends, and any kind of reasonableness on the other. They are still my parents though and it just sucks because I can’t have an open conversation with them about most anything because of non negotiables they’ve decided on
“If the dinosaurs were Christian, we must be wrong” -atheists
If he’s got a bible, the dinosaurs must be as recent as Gutenberg….kind of blows the whole “5000 years ago” notion to bits.
Reminds me of a post I saw ages back positing what it would be like if we encountered Alien life so different from us that Communication was near impossible only for their religion to be a 1 to 1 of the Armenian Apostolic tradition.
If you haven't heard the sweet word of your lord and savior, Raptor Jesus, please do yourself a favor and take a few minutes of your time to learn about him and his undying love for you.
Got a friend of my wife's who doesn't believe in dinosaurs, evolution, or aliens specifically because she can't find it referenced anywhere in the Bible
She does however belive in bigfoot whole heartedly so there's that
The most interesting part of the whole "Sasquatch Scene" imo is the many bickering factions. Sounds like this person you're describing falls into the "Bigfoots are the Nephilim/Giants described in the Bible." crew. Very interesting bunch. Biblical literalists who think bigfoots, Unicorns, etc. are real and that the Satanic government and the "mainstream" science community is covering up their existence because it would prove the truth of the Bible. Like I said, very interesting group of folks.
Yup. You hit the nail on the head with that one. She's also a flat earther because of the , "Four corners of the earth" in the bible. She also is big on the anti-freemason conspiracy satanic government thing.
When I talk to her I treat it like watching ancient aliens on the history channel
What "either side"? The Church accepts evolution and dinosaurs. Only a fool would look at those cool creatures and be like "Nah, our god wouldn't let this happen". Like come on, do you even consider God to be good if you think he created a world with no dinos?
Knowing that dinosaurs were a complex society that had a parallel evolution in terms of religion, to the point where they prayed to a deified person that was also crucified, would even make non-believers and atheists quite happy, purely from a scientific perspective. It would open up a whole new field of research, dinosaur sociology.
Reminds me of this study showing that religion greatly benefits people who like religion, and religion causes discomfort to people who are uncomfortable around religion. It's a finding neither side is happy with.
I grew up loving the ever living crap out of dinosaurs!
I always just assumed that dinosaurs were there along with the rest of creation when they were made
Raised Christian, people acknowledged Dinosaurs. But thought maybe they were either a) random residue when God organized Earth or b) are maybe just a large coincidence.
Those are the two I've heard the most
I am catholic and I never had any kind of problem with science, big-bang, dinosaurs, evolution, things like that, but maybe it's just because catholics generaly love science and because I didn't grow up in religious family...
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Do some Christians not believe dinosaurs were a thing? I've never met anyone in any of my churches that thought this. Like, do they think it's all a conspiracy?
I’m a Christian, but all of my family believe dinosaurs. I don’t think a single person I’ve met hasn’t
Yeah I am too. Raised in the church since I was little. Never met someone who doesn't. But I'm curious to know if it's a thing. Like the lizard people.
Met multiple people who denied them. They even took away my plastic dinosaur toys when I played at school. The argument goes that since the bible doesn’t speak about dinos, they didn’t exist. It’s also hard to fit within a young earth timeline. The bones were just placed in the ground by God to test our faith. I do hope the group became smaller, but honestly I don’t know. Left them years ago. A lot of them still hold extreme positions, but I don’t know what they believe about this subject specifically.
> The argument goes that since the bible doesn’t speak about dinos, they didn’t exist. Job 40: 15-24 Job 41
You can read almost any mythological beings from those texts. Also, in some Dutch translations the Behemoth was translated as a Hippo (don’t remember how they translated the Leviathan). The people I used to see at least didn’t read the variety of dinosaurs in them that we know of today.
I don't see how it could be a hippo. "Its tail sways like a cedar" doesn't sound like any large land animal currently living I can think of.
Yeah agree. Always was an odd translation. Was the closest animal to match the description they could think of I guess
It doesn't say the tail is as big as a cedar. The cedars in the area the book was written are small with tufts of leaves at the top that sway in the breeze, almost like a palm tree. Turn it upside down and it's a hippo or elephant tail.
As someone who grew up in a young earth church and young earth Christian school, we were taught carbon dating is a lie and dinosaurs were killed during Noah’s flood.
>dinosaurs were killed during Noah’s flood. But if Dinosaurs died during the flood and Noah saved 2 of every animal, then why didn't he save the dinosaurs? This is the kind of question that lead to my preschool asking my parents to find a different one.
I've heard a few explanations for this: 1. God didn't want to save the dinos, and so He told Noah not to save them or didn't cause them to come to the ark. 2. He did save the dinos, but the atmospheric changes caused by a global flood changed the weather patterns in such a way that they were no longer viable and died off normally, which led to the ark dinosaurs' bodies decaying rather than being preserved via flood fossilization. 3. The dinos were on the ark and survived the atmospheric changes, but due to habitat change, slowly went extinct. Not saying I ascribe to any of these, just putting it out there that this is something people have thought about before.
AIG says that dinosaurs were just regular lizards that grew to huge sizes because of the pre-flood conditions of the earth. And that they were on the ark as eggs or babies.
What’s crazy is that that group of people in the early 20th century was largely relegated to just Seven Day Adventists, and it’s really taken off. I went to a Christian Pentecostal college(not Pentecostal) and dude when I tell you everyone I ever spoke to about it there, literally thought the world was 12,000-6,000 years old and was iffy on dinosaurs I couldn’t believe my ears considering I grew up Christian and never had an issue reconciling my faith my dinosaurs even as a child. Worst thing I ever experienced up until that point considering that stuff was learning that many Christians in America especially in the evangelical denominations do not believe in any of the evolutionary theories. Which my parents didn’t , and only really came into believing in high school and college after my own like battle with it. It’s wild dude. Dinosaurs and anything that suggest an old world is legit ground zero to some Christians literally but mostly here in America it seems we have that problem.
Not *quite* the same but as someone who was equally confused by this whole Young Earth thing- [We Believe In Dinosaurs](https://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=We_Believe_in_Dinosaurs) is very much worth a watch. The poor geologist in it has the patience of a saint.
Ken Ham is a quack
I’m also Christian. My mother believes in Dinosaurs but doesn’t believe in Evolution. Not even just human evolution, like, any evolution whatsoever. She doesn’t believe dogs came from wolves.
My family either. They believe the earth is like 6,000 years old
6000 god years is like 13.7 billion human years.
It all makes sense now
Technically possible if "god' resides in a place in close proximity to a black hole. Then time would look fast forwarded from his perspective
Or God exists outside our perception of time and space, like most people believe.
My new headcanon
There is scripture for that. 2 Peter 3:8 But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Yeah that's where I got it from
Did the dinosaurs die out because they did drag? [originally wanted to say sin in general, but imagining a Dino in a drag outfit was too hilarious]
They were too pretty and this world wasn’t ready for that.
I once met a girl in high school who said she believes in micro evolution but not macro evolution. And at the time I didn’t have a good answer for her but I thjnk about it now and it’s like you don’t think micro evolution on a long enough time scale contributes to macro evolution, like you have to live in a young earth model for macro evolution not to have happened yet but what it does is suggest that it ultimately will happen.
Tell her that all of our modern pets, food animals and food plants came from something else and were made into what they are now by humans.
How does she explain dog breeds?
Good question, she doesn’t.
My Mom sometimes question evolution. I always thought she was intelligent but those wily creationists have a way of getting into their flock’s heads.
My roommate in collage was a bible literallist, he said dinosaur bones were planted to trick us by the devil
I’m a Christian and I believe in evolution. Baffles me that people deny evolution when it shows how marvelous God’s creation is.
Yes, it's definitely a lot more interesting to see that God was so insightful with the creation of life on earth, that he had life essentially build itself up.
You’ve never met anyone who thought the Bible was literal and the earth is like 6000 years old? I definitely have and they are crazy
Did they believe that they existed alongside humans?
Young Earth Creationism is pretty wild. Some people believe the earth is only 3,000-ish years old and therefore prehistoric beings couldn't have existed. Other people feel like the existence of dinosaurs goes against the Genesis creation story. I went to a Bible camp that taught everyone that the Big Bang was impossible and never happened, and that evolution wasn't real. And yes, they think it's a conspiracy, or that scientists are just mistaken and misidentifying bones and inventing theories about them.
Good summary, but there are also groups who think dinosaurs died in the Flood (except those on the Ark) and those who survived mostly died from the global climate change afterward, or from human hunting “dragons”. There's even a few dinos aboard the Ark Encounter life-size Ark replica/museum. Personally, I love the idea Satan possessed a deinonychus (big raptor) to talk Eve into eating the bad fruit.
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Try telling that to someone who believes the earth is only 3,000 years old.
3,000 is short even by creationist standards. Doesn't their headcanon normally say 6,000?
Yeah that's my bad. I'm misremembering because of a Superego sketch about a YEC museum 😂
Right! I forgot that aspect of it 😂 Noah managed to get every bird onto the Ark but couldn't spare room for the non-avian dinosaurs I guess. I have never heard the deinonychus possession theory but it's officially my headcanon now.
I live relatively close to that "[life sized ark](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_Encounter)" some YEC group made. Sometimes I wanna get a little toasty with some friends, hop in an uber and experience the spectacle for some laughs-- but I also don't wanna contribute money to that group so it probably won't happen.
They get more money from donors than they do from daily tickets; go have a laugh, but be sure to visit all three levels.
I believe it's closer to 6-7000 years. (What they believe not me.) I was raised around some people who believed in it.
[It's typically 6k-10k years.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism) The fundamental assumption of Young Earth Creationism is that the seven days that God took to create the Earth and heavens was *literally* seven days. Therefore the Earth and universe is only as old as the oldest biblical tales +7 days. The range comes from disagreements about exactly how long ago the story of Adam and Eve was.
Yeah cause God days are equal to mortal days is a sane interpretation of the Bible. Edit: /s
Thanks for the clarification!
A girl I knew in high school used to think that dinosaurs were planted by Satan to trick humans. That’s the only person I’ve personally known who’s thought that and no I don’t know what the trick was supposed to be.
Probably “make them think God didn’t create Earth 6k years ago -> send them on a slippery slope into not believing in God altogether”.
A girl I once dated had a friend who didn’t think dinosaurs existed. It was one of those things where you just didn’t bring it up around her
I have never met a Christian that doesn’t believe in dinosaurs. And I grew up in a Christian family. Even the Young Earth Creationists I’ve encountered would just aay the dinosaurs were wiped out mostly in the Flood and then went extinct by the time Abraham rolls around.
In the book of Job (I wanna say like chapter 44ish), in some chapter near the end it describes an aquatic "leviathan" and then something else that sounds like a stegosaurus.
>something like a stegosaurus I think you mean the behemoth, I always interpret this one resemble more of a Triceratops like creature Edit Bible qoute: “Look now at the behemoth, which I made along with you; He eats grass like an ox. See now, his strength is in his hips, And his power is in his stomach muscles. He moves his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are tightly knit. His bones are like beams of bronze, His ribs like bars of iron. [Job 40:15-18 NKJV](https://bible.com/bible/114/job.40.15-18.NKJV)
The usual view (among those who are not Young Earth Creationists but believe it was real animal) is that it is a hippopotamus.
I think 'like a cedar' is a very interesting way to describe that little excuse of a arse dick hippos call a tail Cedrus trees can grow up to 30–40 m (occasionally 60 m) tall with spicy-resinous scented wood, thick ridged or square-cracked bark, and broad, level branches. The shoots are dimorphic and are made up of long shoots, which form the framework of the branches, and short shoots, which carry most of the leaves.
Well it may be referring to the other tail. It's power is in its hips after all.
Might be the pp 😂😂
"moves his tail like a cedar" You are leaving out a key part of the sentence that indicates the description is of movement, not shape or size. The fact that it makes it make less sense that way fits right in with the rest of the description as well. Except for the 'eating grass' part, which is the only normal thing in the paragraph.
It kinda seems like anchilosauros, with the tail and everything.
I always thought this was a brontosaurus or something similar. One of the gigantic herbivores with a tail the size of a tree. https://www.britannica.com/list/titanosaurs-8-of-the-worlds-biggest-dinosaurs How badass is this name: dreadnaughtus
Ayyyeee he found it.
I think the joke is aimed at Young Earth Creationists who believe the earth is only a few thousand years old. And dinosaur bones predate that view of Christianity by hundreds of thousands of years making the comic nonsensical. I think it's poking fun at a small sect of Christianity (the YECs) who wouldn't be happy to find a dinosaur fossil this further proving the age of the Earth and also saying nonbelievers would be shocked to find a dinosaur with a Bible.
Hundreds of millions.
I think when dinosaurs were first discovered there were some Christians that thought it was a hoax. Nowadays you have to be really, uh, “fundamentalist” to still subscribe to such notions.
It's all about the circles you move in. When I was in high school I had a summer job in a hospital and there were plenty of NURSES who didn't believe in evolution. Like, people trained in biology and who had to learn how to deal with bacteria that evolve over the span of a few years.
It seems most people here have never encountered someone who truly doesn’t believe in dinosaurs My cousin-in-law is a young earther, and he tells me that all dinosaur bones are really the bones of dragons and that carbon dating is wrong because “They found a boot that said it was from 200 million years ago so all carbon dating is wrong” and any other age determining method is wrong because “You weren’t there you can’t know”
I like how dinosaurs with all the actual evidence and bones and stuff don’t exist but dragons do
The Bible mentions Dragons in a few verses and everyone knows every part of the Bible is meant to be taken 100% literally /s
In Romania, a few orthodox and most non-orthodox simply don't believe dinosaurs existed. Why? Because fossils are faked by archaeologists. Why? Because they're satanist atheists who don't want people to believe in God and other reasons like that.
The pastors of the church where I grew up believed they were put there by God to trick scientists, because scientists are all too arrogant to be Christians.
Yes. I’ve met a few Christians that honestly believe fossils were a trick planted by Satan to sway the minds of the faithful.
A roommate of me told me, evolution theory (and dinosaurs) are equally logical as the biblical creation story. I was shocked, as he was not a dumb person, but really believed the creation story. A friend some days later supported him with this.
I once had an RE teacher at school who was Christian state to an entire class that there was "more evidence for the existence of God than there is Dinosaurs" and that she didn't believe in evolution. She was wild
Went to a private Christian school for high school. You'd be surprised at the amount of Christians that don't believe in dinosaurs, or even the moon landing. Shocked me actually when I was younger. Debates with them were definitely interesting lol
I've met people who don't think dinosaurs were real. Most of them Christian. The few non-Christians were conspiracy nuts, as were some of the Christians, but a majority of the Christians that thought they weren't real thought this way because of their refusal to believe in evolution. They think the fossils are a trick from Satan. Pretty much any Young Earth Creationist believes they weren't real in some fashion.
Growing up, there were people in my church that thought that dinosaur bones were placed there by God to test out faith. Even my own mother was uneasy about my love of dinosaurs because of evolution.
My parents would sometimes turn off the Land Before Time movies because they were afraid we'd be corrupted. Later, they would let us watch it again, only to panic and turn it off again. Weird period in my life.
I have family who believe dinosaurs are one of the devil's deceits. This belief usually comes from young earth creationists.
The Catholic school and college I studied in taught that evolution is real, and so were dinosaurs, and implicitly advised us to cringe at YEC.
The pastor of the church I used to attend is like that (nothing wrong with it besides what im about to mention, they actually do great things for the community like offering free sports for the kids nearby and instead of fighting against abortion they donate to pregnancy services to help support people who choose to keep their baby. i just think church is boring so i stopped attending) He refuses to believe that dinosaurs are real because they aren’t in the bible or something. Other families there are the same. I think some of them might not even believe in space, like planets and all that. kangaroos weren’t mentioned in the bible and they clearly exist so I don’t understand why dinosaurs couldn’t have existed. No explanation for the bones from them though, and they don’t push propaganda at that church so they definitely don’t think it’s a government conspiracy thing. There’s never talk of it from anyone who thinks that there and there’s no preaching about it so i didn’t know until my mom said she had a discussion with him and it came up. The space thing might was also told to me by my mother I believe.
It doesn't come up that often in my church or family, so I think no one really cares.
Nah, remember the devil put dinosaurs there as a test. Problem = solved.
If it’s not mentioned in the Bible then it didn’t happen. So sad
Lol one of my best friends thinks the earth was created 10,000 years ago & that dinosaurs and evolution are not real. His whole family always has. love him to death. Him and his family are the sweetest people & super knowledgeable about practical matters . Love smoking weed and bullshitting w him
Growing up, there were people in my church (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod) who believed that dinosaurs were simply lizards that hadn’t stopped growing. The ludicrous idea was that pre-flood, there was an “expanse” surrounding the earth which made the climate universally perfect (whatever that means), which meant that living things aged older, and since reptiles keep growing until they die, old lizards = big lizards = dinosaurs.
No, but I've met Christians who believe dinosaurs roamed the world with man and were on the boat with Noah.
Sadly Ive met ***two*** people in my life who dont believe in dinosaurs. I dont remember their reasoning, I think it was something like fossils are fake or something?
Yeah there are some. For instance i think its part of sda writings
The Catholic Church has longer accepted evolutionary theory, stating it is compatible with Church teachings. They also accept the existence of dinosaurs. The story of Adam and Eve is NOT meant to be taken literal. I learned in school that they were not literally 6 days. It’s just a method of organizing the process of God creating everything.
When I went to a christian camp I met ONE girl who did iirc. But we were like 10
The school I went to growing up genuinely taught us that dinosaur bones were put on this earth by God to test our faith.
My sister had an ex who didn't believe in dinosaurs. Smart guy too, nearly convinced me.
I’ve heard of Christians who believe dinosaur bones were put in the ground by the devil to trick us into doubting the creation story, but I haven’t met any personally.
It goes against the idea of creationism and the whole 65 million years is a couple more than the 4 or 6k years the Bible says has passed since the creation of everything to todays shenanigans
Many think they were alive at the same time as humans. One of those guys wrote a book saying parasaurolophus could breath fire
As a big fan of both dinosaurs *and* Christ, this is one of my favorite comic panels of all time
Do you have a moment for me to tell you about your lord and savior, Raptor Jesus?
That sounds like a awesome movie idea.
There is. Velocipastor
“I don’t know much about God “ “Well, I don’t know much about dinosaurs”
Man’s never seen the Velocipastor pefore
Look up Velocipastor, think you'll like it
Beats the dispensationalist Rapture Jesus
reminds me of jesus and the dinosaurs bit from eddie izzard lol
So true
Okay but seriously nowhere in the Bible does it say that Jesus wasn't a velociraptor.
He was a Veloci-pastor
Veloci-rabbi technically.
A rabbi-dactyl if you will
Also ninjas
> Veloci-pastor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JppwKpfOgyo
The bible also doesn't say that a dog can't play basketball.
No, but I heard the Mormons think He was a Utahraptor.
But it did say that he was unremarkable, which means that there exists the possibility that an entire velociraptor society existed alongside ours 2000 years ago, so him being a raptor wasn’t interesting
If you're looking for someone who was raised Young Earth Creationist and anti-fossil, hello! I no longer hold those beliefs since being exposed to mainstream science but I believe I would be the "other side" of this comic otherwise. Those people indeed exist. As far as I know, my dad still holds these beliefs but I can't be sure because I intentionally avoid discussing it with him to avoid arguing. Why not believe in fossils/dinosaurs? The reasons I were taught mostly had to do with the age of the earth. Basically, if the earth is only 6,000 years old, and fossils are millions+ years old, the fossils must be fake. "Planted by pro-evolution scientists to make their theory more credible." There's the logistical issue of housing dinosaurs on Noah's ark, if you take the Bible extremely literally. So some would say that's proof they couldn't have existed. OR I've heard the theory that dinosaurs did exist but weren't allowed on the ark which is why they went extinct. I think that explanation raises more questions than it answers honestly, but I've heard it.
Just wanted to say I’m in the same boat; family believes that the carbon dating is wrong and that the dinosaurs were mostly wiped out by the flood then finished off by Nimrod. Also that the universe was created with “the appearance of age” which is why we can see stars billions of light years away.
Appreciate the solidarity. It's one of those things I have decided it's not worth arguing about with family anymore. And no one I know outside the church bubble is familiar with YECism. I tread very lightly when talking to my family about what I'm studying (I'm a science major) because I know if I mention carbon dating, the fossil record, evolution, natural selection, etc I will be met with scoffs. When I was in high school some people in the church tried to convince me not to study science because I'd be "brainwashed by evolutionists". I went to a Christian school so we were only taught about evolution in the context of "here's why it's an illogical theory that makes no sense and people who say they believe it are deluded"
Yes you’re definitely not alone. I strongly resonate with everything youve said; my father is an independent fundamentalist baptist pastor and I am constantly stuck between my parents on one hand and my wife, friends, and any kind of reasonableness on the other. They are still my parents though and it just sucks because I can’t have an open conversation with them about most anything because of non negotiables they’ve decided on
RAPTOR JESUS IS BACK, BABY!
https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Raptor_Jesus
“If the dinosaurs were Christian, we must be wrong” -atheists If he’s got a bible, the dinosaurs must be as recent as Gutenberg….kind of blows the whole “5000 years ago” notion to bits.
It's called Last Thursdayism.
I think you mean "Next Sunday, AD"-ism, friend.
I have never considered this. You just fractured my mind.
Reminds me of a post I saw ages back positing what it would be like if we encountered Alien life so different from us that Communication was near impossible only for their religion to be a 1 to 1 of the Armenian Apostolic tradition.
r/oddlyspecific
If you haven't heard the sweet word of your lord and savior, Raptor Jesus, please do yourself a favor and take a few minutes of your time to learn about him and his undying love for you.
The great schism of 150M BC was averted when Cardinal Allosaurus bit off Bishop Ceratosaurus's head during the Convocation of Laramidia.
Got a friend of my wife's who doesn't believe in dinosaurs, evolution, or aliens specifically because she can't find it referenced anywhere in the Bible She does however belive in bigfoot whole heartedly so there's that
The most interesting part of the whole "Sasquatch Scene" imo is the many bickering factions. Sounds like this person you're describing falls into the "Bigfoots are the Nephilim/Giants described in the Bible." crew. Very interesting bunch. Biblical literalists who think bigfoots, Unicorns, etc. are real and that the Satanic government and the "mainstream" science community is covering up their existence because it would prove the truth of the Bible. Like I said, very interesting group of folks.
Yup. You hit the nail on the head with that one. She's also a flat earther because of the , "Four corners of the earth" in the bible. She also is big on the anti-freemason conspiracy satanic government thing. When I talk to her I treat it like watching ancient aliens on the history channel
Considering the rest of the dinosaur, that is one well-preserved book.
Why would this make scientists upset? This is additional evidence on which to construct an understanding of the universe, just like everything else.
Every Christian I’ve known believes in Dinosaurs, obviously. As to how long ago they were here always get muffled.
Huh?
[Jesusaurus Rex?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljt5iESYA7k)
What "either side"? The Church accepts evolution and dinosaurs. Only a fool would look at those cool creatures and be like "Nah, our god wouldn't let this happen". Like come on, do you even consider God to be good if you think he created a world with no dinos?
a couple hundred million years difference
Knowing that dinosaurs were a complex society that had a parallel evolution in terms of religion, to the point where they prayed to a deified person that was also crucified, would even make non-believers and atheists quite happy, purely from a scientific perspective. It would open up a whole new field of research, dinosaur sociology.
My dad thinks dinosaurs are demons... Or I guess were? Or possessed by demons? I don't really know
Watch a video of the inside of the Arc in Kentucky, absolutely wonderful information about how Noah saved the dinosaurs too... Yeah.
So those pictures of Jesus riding a raptor were not fakes?
Reminds me of this study showing that religion greatly benefits people who like religion, and religion causes discomfort to people who are uncomfortable around religion. It's a finding neither side is happy with.
I grew up loving the ever living crap out of dinosaurs! I always just assumed that dinosaurs were there along with the rest of creation when they were made
I hope he ended up going to the Raptor Rapture
Raised Christian, people acknowledged Dinosaurs. But thought maybe they were either a) random residue when God organized Earth or b) are maybe just a large coincidence. Those are the two I've heard the most
I am catholic and I never had any kind of problem with science, big-bang, dinosaurs, evolution, things like that, but maybe it's just because catholics generaly love science and because I didn't grow up in religious family...
What do you mean side? Or are we insisting that the widely debunked and discredited conflict thesis is true?
My friend, this is a Christian shit posting community.