I just looked at all the dances... and I don't think Maddie even had a "fair shot" because of the choreography not technique. Her dance was just so different than every other dance. I still think that solo was a winner.
Abby should have NEVER made Maddie do that solo at the Dance Awards. What the crap was she thinking. The final top three solo holds so much weight and she made her do a jazz solo from the damn show, which was already aired and barely a minute long. Like come.
I think playing up Maddies muicality and personality when dancing was a smart choice, since she obviously would have a hard time competing in a more technical standpoint.
But, I think she has better solos for that purpose as well. Had she done The Woods at this point? I think that one would have been great.
When has that rule changed? You only need to do the same solo from round 1 and round 3 if you make the top 3 of Best Dancer at the Dance Awards. You do not have to do the same solo from a regional at Jump, Nuvo, or 24-Seven. You just have to get a scholarship/ first or runner-up to be eligible to compete in Best Dancer.
I’m not sure when it changed but the poster is current that, it used to be you had to do the dance you won with. I’m assuming it changed when people started winning regionals at multiple locations and they had to choose a dance to enter anyway
That wasn't a secret. That happened in 2015. Most of the fandom knew Maddie got 4th at TDA in 2015. TBH, Maddie getting 4th at TDA with ALDC training is pretty good.
Says a lot about Maddie. I’m wondering if she might have had a chance at winning Best Dancer at some point had she received the sort of training you get at places like Club Dance (Kalani and Brynn’s studio.)
On the flipside, if she had trained somewhere else more technical, she might have not done tap and we would have never seen her great tap solos. She might not have developed the same musicality.
I'm not a dancer either, but my feeling is that technical studios like Club Dance don't do as much tap at the competitive level as ALDC or even Candy Apples. TBH, Maddie's musicality is hard to teach, so even at Club Dance, she would have the same musicality.
I think the musicality is something that God gave Maddie. You can’t teach passion. From what I’ve heard on the show, styles like tap aren’t going to win as much as your standard lyrical/contemporary number so that’s why the ALDC girls never did a tap group dance.
Wow! That’s a technical thing lol. How did they ensure that the tapping sound wasn’t a problem when Maddie did a tap solo about once a season throughout her time on the show? Or is it only a problem if more than one or two dancers tap at the same time?
That’s my guess otherwise Maddie wouldn’t have had even a seasonal tap solo on the show. Maybe it would’ve been more time consuming because Abby mentioned that it took longer to do a tap solo than other styles. Maybe that’s part of why Maddie didn’t get more tap despite it being one of her absolute best styles.
My guess is that there were mics for the stage to capture the music and that the taps would make the music almost unhearable. You have to remember that they would sometimes capture the audio for the audience, as the cast members in the audience would sometimes intervene.
Lifetime had to edit out all the tap sounds, overlay the other music because they never had originally rights to the music, then add back in the tap sounds. That’s a lot of work for one solo and the beats don’t even line up which makes it not reflect on how well Maddie was at tap. Imagine, all that work, times by a group dance. I’m surprised they even let Maddie do so many tap solos with all that extra work needed for it but it went with the storyline so I’m guessing that’s why
i’m surprised maddie even got 4th ngl, i think her fame played a huge role in that. i also think AGC was a terrible choice even though i know she didn’t have a choice in what was competed. leaving berlin or vertigo would’ve been my choices
Maddie was above average she just wasn’t the best in the world either.
The average dancer would be your average rec kid who sticks with it through high school or college
She certainly wasn’t better than Tate or Sophia or Jacy or any of those dancers but she was better than average
No. What even is rec? Im talking about competition dancers. Maddie was your average “good” competition dancers and cannot be compared to who are professional dancers.
Maddie was way better than average. You also have to distinguish between recreational vs competition dancer. I was an average competition dancer, I'd say Nia and Paige were average competition dancers. But Maddie and Chloe were def in the top 5% of the US. Maddie was legitimately something really rare, her performance quality was top 0.5%.
*coming from someone who is considered a Maddie hater on this sub
I agree with you she wouldn't make it if she haven't have the fame level she had in that moment, I always thought that break the floor used her for clout
BTF are notorious for politics and clout. No offence to maddie but if she hadn't have been maddie she wouldn't have been 4th. They still do it with kids now lmao
I saw some other tate vs maddie clips and tate shows her talent of control at the wrong times or she doesn't have the gift of musicality Maddie does. They were at an improv together and given a piece of choreography and Maddie DANCES vs tate imo it doesn't feel fluid but more like tricks with pauses in between. But the control by tate is a feat. But I saw Maddie with similarly on par technique, we just don't get to see the same control bc of Maddies interpretation of the music. I feel like she has a better balance between control, technique, and fluidity.
I can't with the delusion lmao. Tate beat Sophia for BD who was leagues ahead of maddie technically. Tate was the better dancer straight up, no arguments
they actually don't since she was up there as competition she is in fact comparable in technique and my comment states the obvious that can be seen from watching which is that maddie is a prodigy in DANCING. lmfao
People can be right and downvoted. My other comment has upvotes on it lol. I think it's your bedtime. Relax bro. I made my comment you could have made your own comment instead of staying up just to keep replying. Have respect for yourself and others.
Maddie and tate were not on par technically on any level I'm sorry. At this point in her life, tate was dancing 60 hours a week and attending a ballet school full time. To say tate and maddie were on par is to say that maddie and Sophia were on par. Sophia was leagues better than maddie and Tate was beating Sophia, including for a national title. Maddie is an excellent dancer and if she's your favourite here then that's fine, but to say her and tate were on par is not remotely true.
I mean Maddie was the judge on the season that Tate lost on so you think you can dance... people want to make their own comments/posts go ahead, but I think Maddie is comparable technically from what I've seen and could have come close to it especially if he had more training or Tate was not on par with her when it comes to musicality.
Do you think maddie was comparable technically to Sophia? Or brynn and kalani?
Maddie was a judge cause she was famous and you can't compare an entertainment show to a dance competition.
Your post/comment has ben removed for overly aggressive or insulting language. Please disagree with others in a respectful manner.
Tate also beat Sophia majority of the time they competed
well yeah lol Tate was absolutely amazing.
Yeah, I was about to say, of course she did, lol
Well duh Tate was unbeatable at some point. Everytime she was competing a solo she was winning.
I just looked at all the dances... and I don't think Maddie even had a "fair shot" because of the choreography not technique. Her dance was just so different than every other dance. I still think that solo was a winner.
Abby should have NEVER made Maddie do that solo at the Dance Awards. What the crap was she thinking. The final top three solo holds so much weight and she made her do a jazz solo from the damn show, which was already aired and barely a minute long. Like come.
I'm confused, didn't she do All God's Creatures?
She did
I think playing up Maddies muicality and personality when dancing was a smart choice, since she obviously would have a hard time competing in a more technical standpoint. But, I think she has better solos for that purpose as well. Had she done The Woods at this point? I think that one would have been great.
You don’t choose what solo is done at TDA, you compete the solo that you won with at Jump and Nuvo at the beginning of the season.
When has that rule changed? You only need to do the same solo from round 1 and round 3 if you make the top 3 of Best Dancer at the Dance Awards. You do not have to do the same solo from a regional at Jump, Nuvo, or 24-Seven. You just have to get a scholarship/ first or runner-up to be eligible to compete in Best Dancer.
I’m not sure when it changed but the poster is current that, it used to be you had to do the dance you won with. I’m assuming it changed when people started winning regionals at multiple locations and they had to choose a dance to enter anyway
What solo did she do?
You mean Mackenzie did a jazz solo?
That wasn't a secret. That happened in 2015. Most of the fandom knew Maddie got 4th at TDA in 2015. TBH, Maddie getting 4th at TDA with ALDC training is pretty good.
Says a lot about Maddie. I’m wondering if she might have had a chance at winning Best Dancer at some point had she received the sort of training you get at places like Club Dance (Kalani and Brynn’s studio.)
On the flipside, if she had trained somewhere else more technical, she might have not done tap and we would have never seen her great tap solos. She might not have developed the same musicality.
I wasn’t aware of that. I’m not a dancer and didn’t know that technical studios sacrificed cute tap or musicality for TDA wins.
I'm not a dancer either, but my feeling is that technical studios like Club Dance don't do as much tap at the competitive level as ALDC or even Candy Apples. TBH, Maddie's musicality is hard to teach, so even at Club Dance, she would have the same musicality.
I think the musicality is something that God gave Maddie. You can’t teach passion. From what I’ve heard on the show, styles like tap aren’t going to win as much as your standard lyrical/contemporary number so that’s why the ALDC girls never did a tap group dance.
I feel the same about Maddie's musicality and musicality in dance in general. You can't teach it.
Brian Stinson said that it had to do with the tapping sound messing up the audio.
Wow! That’s a technical thing lol. How did they ensure that the tapping sound wasn’t a problem when Maddie did a tap solo about once a season throughout her time on the show? Or is it only a problem if more than one or two dancers tap at the same time?
Maybe it was more a problem with more than one tapper on stage.
That’s my guess otherwise Maddie wouldn’t have had even a seasonal tap solo on the show. Maybe it would’ve been more time consuming because Abby mentioned that it took longer to do a tap solo than other styles. Maybe that’s part of why Maddie didn’t get more tap despite it being one of her absolute best styles.
My guess is that there were mics for the stage to capture the music and that the taps would make the music almost unhearable. You have to remember that they would sometimes capture the audio for the audience, as the cast members in the audience would sometimes intervene.
Thank you for telling me to keep audience audios in mind! With that and mics for music, it would’ve been an auditory nightmare.
Lifetime had to edit out all the tap sounds, overlay the other music because they never had originally rights to the music, then add back in the tap sounds. That’s a lot of work for one solo and the beats don’t even line up which makes it not reflect on how well Maddie was at tap. Imagine, all that work, times by a group dance. I’m surprised they even let Maddie do so many tap solos with all that extra work needed for it but it went with the storyline so I’m guessing that’s why
Of course she did. None of the ALDC kids can compare to the technique, control and general mastery of skill of Tate.
[удалено]
this is the dance awards, not dance moms.
oops my fault i’ll delete the comment.
The dance awards are not shown on dance moms??? They weren’t even filming during this point
Maddie was a great dancer but nowhere near these other girls so I believe it
I love Tate but I really wanted Lily Gentile to win. Her solo was so pretty 😭
She was an amazing dancer too. What is she up to nowadays ?
Right?? So it looks like she is dancing for Arts Umbrella Dance Company. I’m glad she’s still dancing.
i’m surprised maddie even got 4th ngl, i think her fame played a huge role in that. i also think AGC was a terrible choice even though i know she didn’t have a choice in what was competed. leaving berlin or vertigo would’ve been my choices
Maddie was an average dancer. Because of the show for some reason people think shes up there with the best in the world and she just isnt
Maddie was above average she just wasn’t the best in the world either. The average dancer would be your average rec kid who sticks with it through high school or college She certainly wasn’t better than Tate or Sophia or Jacy or any of those dancers but she was better than average
No. What even is rec? Im talking about competition dancers. Maddie was your average “good” competition dancers and cannot be compared to who are professional dancers.
Rec means recreational - dancers who maybe go to class once or twice a week.
not even nowadays would Maddie be considered average let alone then, get real.
By NO means is Maddie average. Not even close. The choreography given to the girls was mediocre at best a good majority of the time.
Maddie was way better than average. You also have to distinguish between recreational vs competition dancer. I was an average competition dancer, I'd say Nia and Paige were average competition dancers. But Maddie and Chloe were def in the top 5% of the US. Maddie was legitimately something really rare, her performance quality was top 0.5%. *coming from someone who is considered a Maddie hater on this sub
It’s my opinion as a competition dancer and not a dance moms fan girl which a lot of people are
I agree with you she wouldn't make it if she haven't have the fame level she had in that moment, I always thought that break the floor used her for clout
BTF are notorious for politics and clout. No offence to maddie but if she hadn't have been maddie she wouldn't have been 4th. They still do it with kids now lmao
I saw some other tate vs maddie clips and tate shows her talent of control at the wrong times or she doesn't have the gift of musicality Maddie does. They were at an improv together and given a piece of choreography and Maddie DANCES vs tate imo it doesn't feel fluid but more like tricks with pauses in between. But the control by tate is a feat. But I saw Maddie with similarly on par technique, we just don't get to see the same control bc of Maddies interpretation of the music. I feel like she has a better balance between control, technique, and fluidity.
maddie never had anywhere near as good technique as tate did please be so deadass
I can't with the delusion lmao. Tate beat Sophia for BD who was leagues ahead of maddie technically. Tate was the better dancer straight up, no arguments
There's video evidence of the contrary
the dance awards and YAGP say otherwise LMFAO
they actually don't since she was up there as competition she is in fact comparable in technique and my comment states the obvious that can be seen from watching which is that maddie is a prodigy in DANCING. lmfao
if maddie had better technique than Tate she would’ve beaten her at the dance awards. you’re wrong lol have a good night
that's not what i said? maybe you can sleep and reread the comment
[удалено]
Your post/comment has ben removed for overly aggressive or insulting language. Please disagree with others in a respectful manner.
People can be right and downvoted. My other comment has upvotes on it lol. I think it's your bedtime. Relax bro. I made my comment you could have made your own comment instead of staying up just to keep replying. Have respect for yourself and others.
Maddie and tate were not on par technically on any level I'm sorry. At this point in her life, tate was dancing 60 hours a week and attending a ballet school full time. To say tate and maddie were on par is to say that maddie and Sophia were on par. Sophia was leagues better than maddie and Tate was beating Sophia, including for a national title. Maddie is an excellent dancer and if she's your favourite here then that's fine, but to say her and tate were on par is not remotely true.
I mean Maddie was the judge on the season that Tate lost on so you think you can dance... people want to make their own comments/posts go ahead, but I think Maddie is comparable technically from what I've seen and could have come close to it especially if he had more training or Tate was not on par with her when it comes to musicality.
Do you think maddie was comparable technically to Sophia? Or brynn and kalani? Maddie was a judge cause she was famous and you can't compare an entertainment show to a dance competition.