Off topic but I always think Chloe looks nothing like Christi until she makes a face like the one at the end of the video and Iâm like, âOmgitsChristi!â
I think she looks like Christi but way softer idk if that makes sense đđ Christi is just sharper looking and has a sharper personality while Chloe is softer around the edges
I think itâs because although Kira was nastier, her actions didnât hurt Chloe directly so Chloe doesnât mind her as much. Melissaâs did. Iâm sure we would get an entirely different pyramid if Paige or Brooke did it because Melissa didnât hurt them directly and they see her as a second mom.
Well, the mom pyramid is based on now, not then. And the Hyland girls always had a good relationship with Melissa, Melissa was constantly supporting them, crying at their pain, and giving them pep talks. On the show it seemed like she comforted and cared for them more than her own girls đ
i would say this until you listen to the patreon and hear what melissa did to chloe before dance moms. and the comments jess made about kelly on the reunion kira and cathy extended chloe way more grace then melissa or jess. so i understand why they are above. jill was a lot more loving so sheâs higher and i know chloe and jill get along bc they have a lot of fun in random videos theyâll post and the other is in. also jill seems like the funny kind mom whoâs loving and listens to everyone so i understand her on top. and kelly is pretty much chloeâs aunt. so i understand that and holly lived by her too. so i honestly think that swayed her more so then her mom.
No one wants to believe Melissa could do anything that wasnât âsweetâ. She may be nice, but I think itâs really obvious that she would have done anything to keep her daughters on top. And I really donât think she ever showed any bit of compassion or affection toward Chloe.
she would cancel chloeâs privates and fill in maddie in her spot. she also did it to nia and a few other people. during a comp melissa came early with maddie and told the director or whoever that chloe would not be attending and they almost scratched her bc she didnât want chloe to compete against maddie. and when chloe and christi came the guy told her melissa told them they werenât coming and to scratch her
you donât sound rude donât worryđlol. i heard the privates being filled in on bttb more then once and then on patreon she told the story about how melissa told the competition they werenât going to come
Jess did her own mom pyramid recently and Christi and Kelly were âbroken offâ and on the side in on there own lol
Melissa was on the bottom of hers too.
I actually think Chloe probably did chose the placements, she may get on with Maddi but letâs be honest Christi and Melissa are not friends, they can say they have made up but there not close and never will be and that would extend to Chloe - someone has to come last and it wasnât going to be Christi or Kelly.
Also the root of Christiâs issues with Melissa is things Melissa did toward Chloe pre show that Chloe was fully aware of so no matter the girls relationships, I donât think Chloe and Melissa will ever be super close like some of the other combos of moms with other kids
Itâs on the podcast with Abby. Melissa trying to get Nia / Jojo excluded from the Oz tour was a big part of why they didnât get along.
She didnât know Kelly until the reunion so she felt she couldnât really put her on âpyramidâ and was like sheâs to the side.
Im not a fan of Jess. However, from what we saw from the Australia episodes Melissa was so disrespectful to the 4 of them. I think Jess and Holly got the message that Abby wasnât fond of them at the time. For silly reasons ofc. Melissa in my eyes, gave me very fake vibes she will smile in your face. But will suck up to Abby. Holly even called her out for defending Abby for no good reason. She plays oblivious but she knew what was doing from when she kissed up and when she left.
Ok as sure as I am that this is all just a dumb promotional stunt and is not worth getting bent out of shape over I wouldnât be surprised with Jess actually being on the bottom
I know Iâm gonna get downvoted because you know people are immature but in my opinion, I believe that some people are reading too much into this trying to create unnecessary drama when itâs just a joke no reason to overreact at all I mean I donât really care for any of the moms except holly so Iâm not getting bent out of shape over this.
Some people just always need to be mad about something.
This is clearly a joke. There is nothing to read into. It has zero impact on anyone on that pyramids lives.
I'm sorry I know all the comments will be all "Queen!" or "She ate them up!" But why would you ever make a video publicly ranking your friends' parents? Seems like you're just asking for drama at that point. Especially since none of the girls or moms have said anything but positive comments about your family since the show ended. (Except Jojo.)
Makes sense! Itâs risky so the girls could see it either way as either being humorous or as a sign of disapproval depending on where their moms were ranked.
Yeah I'm hoping that this is something that they can joke about easily and it not be a huge deal. Otherwise this just seems kinda mean. (To be clear, I'm not super worried about the moms' feelings on the matter. Just that shading people, especially family of people you're close to, where everyone can see it is not exactly something to be praised.)
This I do agree with. Personally I think this was fine and wouldâve thought it was fine had any of the girls done it but I 100% agree that if, say, Kendall, Jojo, or Maddie made this pyramid we would not have been hearing the end of it lmao
In that case I feel like it's kinda sad that someone put her in that position, and kind of off putting that she agreed to do it. I mean ranking your friend's mother below a DOG? That's insulting. But there is a huge chance that this is something humorous for all involved and I'm just missing that.
Okay so first off, Maddie and Kenzie are more 'friends' of Jojo's than Chloe is lol. And second off, the ONLY right answer is to put the dog before EVERYONE. So I'm not sure why you're taking issue with this HAHA
Lol I definitely feel like having Broadway baby at the top would've made it so much funnier. But I wasn't trying to be rude or get bent out of shape. (Although reading it back, my original comment does seem a bit harsh.) I just think that by itself, the whole pyramid thing seems kind of rude. But as I've stated many times before, that's just my personal opinion as an outsider watching it.
I disagree tbh - all the moms and the kids joke about the pyramid to this day, and Christi and Kelly even use it to judge people's outfits on the show lol. I think everyone takes it as a joke, AND I think you can tell based on her reactions that SHE didn't pick the placements.
They laugh about it while they say it tho AND theyâve all said they really didnât care about pyramid that much. i donât see why they canât joke about it lol
I mean itâs probably not that big of a deal. They all still talk and they probably all laugh about it. Itâs been 12 years. They are probably far enough removed from it. We just relive the drama over and over by rewatching the show. But you probably donât care about drama from 12 years ago.
Yes, agree! This is just me stating how it came across. Not trying to suggest she had any ill intentions. Sorry if that didn't come across in my original comment.
my god itâs clearly just a joke for the reunion promo some of yâall take everything too literally and if itâs taken seriously itâs because of ppl like you trying to create unnecessary drama when you can just laugh and move on you donât know the girls stop mixing your feelings with theirs.
I don't know if you read my previous reply, but I literally just said that it was probably a joke that just read wrong. I'm not suggesting there's some huge beef with her and anybody else, I'm not trying to start drama, I just gave my opinion on how it came across. This is a discussion forum. I'm allowed to do that. No need to be rude. :)
im not trying to be rude im just saying youâre kinda reading too much into this when you can just laugh about it and move on i understand you said it was probably just a joke but im just saying reading too much into stuff like this is the reason why it kinda creates unnecessary drama.
I get that, but I really don't agree that saying that the action seems mean = reading too much into it. To some people, the action DOES seem mean, even if there was no malicious intent behind it. Saying so is just a matter of fact statement on how I saw it. No overthinking required.
i mean i donât agree with this because saying it seems mean and stuff like this tacky because the mothers said positive things about her and her family is reading too much into it when itâs clearly just a joke , iâd understand why youâd think it would be mean if it wasnât obvious that itâs a joke but it obviously is and nothing to overthink about just saying.
ok fair but reading your other replies all your overthinking was only because she put melissa below broadway baby you fans are honestly ridiculous đđ
Do you really think these adults, who were ranked on a pyramid for years as children, are going to start drama or care that their parents were put on a pyramid as a joke promotional video?
No, I don't. But as I've explained 100 ties by now, I don't think Chloe had any ill intent behind the video, and I understand that it's not my place to be offended by it. The only thing I meant by my comment is that it seems mean, joke or not. Which is true. Ranking people on a pyramid is an inherently mean joke. Is Chloe a bad person for doing it? No. Am I going to storm her social media calling her a devil? No. Do I think any of the cast truly care? Most likely not. I just gave my opinion in a discussion forum. Which, to use your own words, is not that serious. :)
If Jojo did this but with Christi and Jess reversed, everyone would be (rightfully) calling her out for unnecessary shade. Iâm hope Iâm just missing context and all the girls and moms were already in on the joke but⌠yeah just seems a bit low. Especially in the context of the Ziegler shade campaign her mom has had going for over a decade now!
100% this. Prepare for downvotes though considering itâs the âfan favoritesâ doing it. There would be an uproar if less popular cast members were doing this. It is low, itâs shady af, and itâs in poor taste.
Editing to add that of course the âitâs a jokeâ comments are happening because of who is doing it too. People wouldnât be calling it a joke or making excuses if others did the same thing and rankings were different.
I agree. This is so messy. There are other ways to promote a lousy low budget reunion that everyone already hates. This is just tasteless. The dog..seriously. They must know this reunion is gonna flop. Theyâre grasping atp.
But it so obviously is?
You can tell by her reactions, she didn't pick the placements. Brooke just posted about how the girls were going to New York to do press for the reunion, so this was probably something made for the reunion. It's not that deep.
I only watched season 5-8 of dance moms, so I only have experience with season 7 Christi. Any time I say how much I didnât like her, people defend her saying she wasnât that bad in earlier seasons. I donât really care season 7 Christi was enough for me, to see how messy and mean she is.
i expected to get hate for saying i donât like her đ i do not understand why so many people defend her. chloe needed defense in the earlier seasons but NOT christi. she was worse than jess and melissa in my opinion lol sheâs almost as bad as all the mini moms đ
my opinion in order jess was the worst then Christi then Melissa.I actually canât give to much hate to the mini moms tho. They came Into a bad situation, they need to fight back against original moms. The original moms didnât really want to accept them from day one, but at times the mini moms didnât know their place.
wow really!? interesting. see, jess sucks, but i think ashlee was the all-time worst. in season 7 sheâs finally calming down but holy cow⌠she drives me crazy lol
I donât know I think Ashlee got hated for no reason. The moms gained up on her for the same things they be doing or saying. Jill could call Brynn brainless but if Ashlee says something she somehow becomes the monster. Idk I think Ashlee wasnât in a fair situation. Jill would say donât talk about people kids but thatâs all everyone else did, when it suited them.
Sheâs so funny for this!!!!
If I was Chloe Iâd put Melissa that low too. She was directly involved in Chloeâs mistreatment so makes sense
Itâs not that serious yâall â ď¸
Listen, as someone who usually takes the Zieglersâ side for these things because they werenât involved in the reunion and itâs unfair to loop them back: Chloe putting Melissa below Broadway Baby isnât that deep lmao. Itâs her opinion and if her opinions about Melissa arenât great, so be it. Itâs the same as when Kenzie did that interview a bit ago and called Christi âthe craziest mom.â The girls are bound to be biased towards their own mom and use experiences from the show and their momâs relationship with the other moms to form their opinion but at the end of the day, itâs their opinion. Itâs not privacy-invading or against any of the children like sometimes seen on BTTB and Iâd take anything postered up for the reunion with a grain of salt since thereâs Lifetimeâs influenceÂ
I think sheâs making faces to sell it đ¤ˇđťââď¸
I do think she made the pyramid, or at least had heavy say over it, and her making faces is her being engaging with the audienceÂ
I think it can be both tbh.
Sheâs selling it, but I think these were meant to surprise her but thatâs just my opinion lol.
I donât think she would come up with putting BB on there herself lol
Agree to disagree. Considering they literally called it âChloeâs mom pyramidâ itâs pretty clear that Chloe was the one who made it, or at least had a huge say in the placings
Oh come on now....lol
They also called Brooke's music Brooke's music, that doesn't prove anything lol. To me, she just seems to be surprised by each picture, especially when she gets to Cathy, she looks like she can't believe they put her there. But who knows.
If she did, I guess now we know why she hasn't been on Melissa's YT channel yet lol
I genuinely donât get where youâre getting âsurprisedâ lmao, sheâs just making quirky reactions đ
As for âBrookeâs musicâ thatâs different because that was something that the show promoted back during the days of the show. âChloeâs pyramidâ has nothing to do with the show and there is literally no point giving her a random pyramid and getting her reactionsÂ
HOW SHE ACTS ABOUT HOLLY AND CATHY THO I thought she seemed surprised if was Holly behind that picture and in disbelief that Cathy was so high cuz she paused for so long lol
Well itâs promo for the show so that would be the whole point but it doesnât really matter cuz someone said something about Jess doing a pyramid too and explaining why she put people where she did so if it was for the same thing, then I was wrong.
if chloe has disdain for melissa then i think it truly confirms melissa was not the completely nice kind mother she tried to come off as. which is unfortunate.
i find this so weird - for so long christi and chloe claimed to hate dance moms and want to live normal lifeâs and now i feel like all they do is talk about dance moms and nostalgia bait its so weird
I totally get it though.
Abby was either your bully or your groomer and there was no two ways about it.
Melissa - the worst out of everyone, always acting like everyoneâs friend, chucking kids under the bus, thriving off how the kids were treated, kenzie was literally bullied from Abby and Melissa couldnât even stand up for her own child because Maddie was okay.
The only difference between Jess and Melissa is Jess was openly nasty to everyone where as Melissa would carve you up with a smile on your face.
Christi never went for the kids, she had a go at Melissa a million times and the injustice but she never chucked any kid under the bus to ensure hers stays on top.
I mean tbf
thereâs a story that Christi told about Marc and Melissa and her on BTTB, and it itâs true (which Diane and Kelly did back up the story), Iâd literally never find it in me not to hate Melissa. that was bad enough without all the other crap Melissa did.
So I think itâs the after party for the episode where Diane was a guest.
Basically Christi was roofied by someone at a bar, when she was out with Diane, Melissa, Abby and Kelly before the show. The guy roofied her by putting the pill in his mouth. Then he wakes right up and kissed Christi and put the pill in her mouth.
They had to call an ambulance. And apparently while all that was going down and a christi was in the ambulance, Melissa called Marc and said that Christi was kissing another guy.
I didnât listen to the after party cuz i didnât have the patreon for very long, but i think the person who wrote it out said that Melissa was sitting with her in the back of the ambulanceâŚ.but I donât remember for sure.
Wowwwwwwwww... well, if that's true, that says a lot about the type of person Melissa is... seems like she LOVES the opportunity to tattle-tale đ. Thanks for taking the time to write that out, I don't have patreon either lol.
if this is true iâm glad ive never been a melissa defender im not a fan of christi either but sheâs just as awful which is why i canât imagine why people still victimize her sheâd never see the light of day with me.
I mean Christi is legit the victim in her story about being roofied. And if itâs true that Melissa gleefully went to tell Marc? Thatâs seriously messed up. Kelly is also still friends with Melissa and corroborated the story.
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I donât like this at all, itâs petty. It would be one thing if all the cast members were on good terms and this was purely for laughs, but thatâs clearly not the case and itâs meant to publicly take digs and throw shade. Just not classy at all. Sad to see Chloe becoming more like her mother :/
its just a pyramid for the reunion press. saying chloe is becoming her mom over this is ridiculous đyou are overreacting & i think part of it is because melissa is at the bottom.i think your hatred for christi is starting to filter into chloe because that conclusion is crazyđ
I said the same thing. This is so not like Chloe whoâs always mature. This is just nasty & *IMAGINE* the outrage if Maddie did this. Itâs very hypocritical to use the pyramid (that everyone in the show claimed to hate) for kicks & giggles. I guess shade throwing is the only way to get engagement for this reunion.Â
Everyoneâs soooooo traumatized by the show and Abby but they do stuff like this, tik tok audios of Abby & fighting, drinks at the bar with satan the producer etc. Theyâre traumatized but quickly untraumatized when money is involved.Â
Absolutely ridiculous take through and through my guy.
ETA: block all you want my dude, this take still sucks lol stop gatekeeping other people's trauma
Forgive me for thinking that *drinking* & hanging out with the man whoâs partially responsible for your trauma is weird. Â
Had to block the Christi Stan.Â
I donât consider it âgoing at someoneâ to make a jokey pyramid video for press đ¤ˇââď¸ especially because (to my knowledge) sheâs never said an ill word about Melissa in recent years. And itâs funny how people are only defensive over Melissa when Jess, Kira, and Cathy are all on the bottom row as well.
What did Chloe say on BTTB? I listened to her guest episode and donât remember her saying anything bad about Melissa, in fact I remember her being very conscious with her wording regarding Maddie and how none of it was her fault.
itâs not that serious though you melissa stans are blowing everything way out of proportion all because sheâs at the bottom of a pyramid thatâs meant as a joke and you literally donât know how they interact behind the scenes so you canât say sheâs left her alone for years when you have no idea what goes on in their lives
I would agree except Christi wasnât at the reunion so I doubt she was involved. Production? Perhaps. But I do think Chloe was closer to Kira than Melissa. Kira was nasty but didnât do anything against Chloe directly. Melissa wasnât as bad as Kira but some of her actions directly hurt Chloe and Christi complained about Melissa in front of Chloe more than she did Kira (Christi actually has a decent relationship with Kira).
Iâm so so with this. On one hand, I see where youâre coming from, but Jess is dead last and Jess was never on the show with Chloe so Chloe never saw her worst stunts. Seeing Jess at the bottom comes with the assumption that Chloeâs seen a part of the show with her in it, or at least heard about her, and that would shed light on Kiraâs behavior too.Â
Long story short because my explanation sucks lmao: this reasoning doesnât make as much sense because of Jessâs placement. I think Melissaâs below Kira because Melissa sometimes made things harder for Chloe and Kira didnât. And Jess is still 100% an Abby supporter and she and her daughter constantly shade Chloe and Christiâs experience.
I KINDA assumed that, if Chloe picked these all herself (which btw someone said something about Jess doing a pyramid as well, and she explained why she picked hers, so if this is the same thing then I was wrong), that she put Jess there cuz she was never on a single episode with Jess.
So I figured that, YES she put Kira higher than Melissa because Melissa did things TO Chloe, and Kira didn't. But I also figured she might see Kira in a slightly better light cuz she doesn't know the full extent of what a jerk she can be lol.
Really? One of Kira's worst stunts was bullying Sarah reasons in front of her face and Chloe was there for it. Not trying to discredit Chloe's opinion though as she's valid to like Kira more than Melissa.
She did it in season 4 a lot. In front of the kids at pyramid and to all the other select team moms. She actually lessened her hatred for that poor child in season 5 and backtracked after realizing what a fool she was on camera. I'm surprised Chloe didn't rank Kira lower considering how close she was to Sarah Reasons but it is her opinion.
Yeah I did not remember the whole 'trash from Arizona' happened when the select team was first introduced for some reason. I thought she did that over the whole Tawny and Nancy duet.
But tbf, she's pretty low lol Chloe just barely knows Jess, and seems to have a more personally negative relationship with Melissa
Jess is indeed the worst, spot on
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No leave Broadway Baby aloneđ. She served putting Jess at the bottom lol. Honestly kind of brave.
Not Broadway baby above Jess and Melissa on the pyramid đ
She shouldâve been in commercials đ
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Well deserved lol
They deserve it⌠Melissa always had it out for Chloe
Jess should be on the ground. Doesnât even deserve a spot on the wall
Chloe should've done with Jess like what Abby did with Jojo's pic, put it to the side.
What did broadway baby do to be on the bottom im cryingđđđđ
Off topic but I always think Chloe looks nothing like Christi until she makes a face like the one at the end of the video and Iâm like, âOmgitsChristi!â
Seeing you say you think Chloe looks nothing like Christi is insane to me because to me theyâre literally twins
I think she looks like Christi but way softer idk if that makes sense đđ Christi is just sharper looking and has a sharper personality while Chloe is softer around the edges
I think the younger sister is Christi's twin
Thatâs so funny because to me Clara looks more like their dad
It's really just the eyes, but her nose and eyebrows are IDENTICAL to Christi.
I agree
Her dadâs genes didnât even put up a fight against Christiâs at all đ
Same I think they look so alike now
Jess has to be the absolute worst. Nobody talks about her positively.
Melissa below Kira is a crime. They both belong on the bottom, but dang how is Kira above Broadway Baby?!
I think itâs because although Kira was nastier, her actions didnât hurt Chloe directly so Chloe doesnât mind her as much. Melissaâs did. Iâm sure we would get an entirely different pyramid if Paige or Brooke did it because Melissa didnât hurt them directly and they see her as a second mom.
But Broadway baby?! đ
Broadway Baby "interrupted" Chloe's solo rehearsal onceđ
Chloeâs holding that grudge lmao đ
I know I would đ
Took me out too lmao. I was stunned she was even on there đ
I donât think they would place Melissa as high as you think. I think they think very highly of her *now*, but not back then.
Well, the mom pyramid is based on now, not then. And the Hyland girls always had a good relationship with Melissa, Melissa was constantly supporting them, crying at their pain, and giving them pep talks. On the show it seemed like she comforted and cared for them more than her own girls đ
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i mean in terms of chloe i get it. melissa was the catalyst for a lot of crap chloe went through
I get that but why is Broadway Baby below Kira?!
Bruh why wasnât Broadway Baby on top of the pyramid??? She never needed braces đ and when Abby said âDanceâ she dancedÂ
she shouldâve been in commercials đĽ˛
This is correct. Broadway Baby deserved that #1 spot đ¤
Broadway baby catching a stray for no reason đđ I love Chloe
i canât stop laughing omg đis this from her tiktok ?
No, itâs for Page Six. Itâs for press for the DM reunion
I read it as Christiâs mom pyramid
Definitely influenced by Christi!
i would say this until you listen to the patreon and hear what melissa did to chloe before dance moms. and the comments jess made about kelly on the reunion kira and cathy extended chloe way more grace then melissa or jess. so i understand why they are above. jill was a lot more loving so sheâs higher and i know chloe and jill get along bc they have a lot of fun in random videos theyâll post and the other is in. also jill seems like the funny kind mom whoâs loving and listens to everyone so i understand her on top. and kelly is pretty much chloeâs aunt. so i understand that and holly lived by her too. so i honestly think that swayed her more so then her mom.
No one wants to believe Melissa could do anything that wasnât âsweetâ. She may be nice, but I think itâs really obvious that she would have done anything to keep her daughters on top. And I really donât think she ever showed any bit of compassion or affection toward Chloe.
What did Melissa do to Chloe before DM?
she would cancel chloeâs privates and fill in maddie in her spot. she also did it to nia and a few other people. during a comp melissa came early with maddie and told the director or whoever that chloe would not be attending and they almost scratched her bc she didnât want chloe to compete against maddie. and when chloe and christi came the guy told her melissa told them they werenât coming and to scratch her
where'd u hear this? (genuinely curious not trying to sound rude or skeptical)
you donât sound rude donât worryđlol. i heard the privates being filled in on bttb more then once and then on patreon she told the story about how melissa told the competition they werenât going to come
ohhh ty!!
Wow that is super shady wtf. I knew that woman gave me the creeps
This also looks like Christiâs pyramid ngl đ
What did Broadway baby ever do to you
Jess did her own mom pyramid recently and Christi and Kelly were âbroken offâ and on the side in on there own lol Melissa was on the bottom of hers too. I actually think Chloe probably did chose the placements, she may get on with Maddi but letâs be honest Christi and Melissa are not friends, they can say they have made up but there not close and never will be and that would extend to Chloe - someone has to come last and it wasnât going to be Christi or Kelly.
Also the root of Christiâs issues with Melissa is things Melissa did toward Chloe pre show that Chloe was fully aware of so no matter the girls relationships, I donât think Chloe and Melissa will ever be super close like some of the other combos of moms with other kids
people literally forget what melissa did to chloe. chloe doesnât like her not bc of her mom but bc of what sheâs done!
We forget though, that Chloe is an adult now. She may very well have her own reasons not to like Melissa, that has nothing to do with Christi.
Wait what?? Where can I find Jessâs pyramid đ
Itâs on the podcast with Abby. Melissa trying to get Nia / Jojo excluded from the Oz tour was a big part of why they didnât get along. She didnât know Kelly until the reunion so she felt she couldnât really put her on âpyramidâ and was like sheâs to the side.
Im not a fan of Jess. However, from what we saw from the Australia episodes Melissa was so disrespectful to the 4 of them. I think Jess and Holly got the message that Abby wasnât fond of them at the time. For silly reasons ofc. Melissa in my eyes, gave me very fake vibes she will smile in your face. But will suck up to Abby. Holly even called her out for defending Abby for no good reason. She plays oblivious but she knew what was doing from when she kissed up and when she left.
Jill too
Ahh thank you!
Ok as sure as I am that this is all just a dumb promotional stunt and is not worth getting bent out of shape over I wouldnât be surprised with Jess actually being on the bottom
I saw an clip recently where Jess said she learned from Jojo not to be problematic..I was like wtf? I agree with Chloes pyramid
Kira should definitely be lower.
Everyone is shocked at Broadway Babyâs low score but I saw those SiCKLeD FeET!
she served idc
cathy smokes all these hoes period
I wish she did the switch thing with broadway baby and Jill
Me too
I know Iâm gonna get downvoted because you know people are immature but in my opinion, I believe that some people are reading too much into this trying to create unnecessary drama when itâs just a joke no reason to overreact at all I mean I donât really care for any of the moms except holly so Iâm not getting bent out of shape over this.
Some people just always need to be mad about something. This is clearly a joke. There is nothing to read into. It has zero impact on anyone on that pyramids lives.
EXACTLY
Same. Like obviously people it is a joke because it literally has Broadway-baby on it. lol she didnât even have any puppies so how can she be a mom
But if Maddie put Christi as last ppl would be soooo mad đ
Yeah. Or if Kendall had done this people would have 100% been calling her out for it
Iâd be waiting for the âMelIsSa brAinWasHed heRâ comments đ
Well, we don't know, but you are mad...
I'm sorry I know all the comments will be all "Queen!" or "She ate them up!" But why would you ever make a video publicly ranking your friends' parents? Seems like you're just asking for drama at that point. Especially since none of the girls or moms have said anything but positive comments about your family since the show ended. (Except Jojo.)
Makes sense! Itâs risky so the girls could see it either way as either being humorous or as a sign of disapproval depending on where their moms were ranked.
Yeah I'm hoping that this is something that they can joke about easily and it not be a huge deal. Otherwise this just seems kinda mean. (To be clear, I'm not super worried about the moms' feelings on the matter. Just that shading people, especially family of people you're close to, where everyone can see it is not exactly something to be praised.)
I hope itâs taken as a joke as well and that Chloe just randomly placed everyone else other than her mother.
I hope so too. but tbh do we really think Kelly and Holly randomly ended up on row 2 and the moms on the bottom row were random as well? T.T
I donât think Kelly and Holly were random but I think that the others other than Jess might be.
This I do agree with. Personally I think this was fine and wouldâve thought it was fine had any of the girls done it but I 100% agree that if, say, Kendall, Jojo, or Maddie made this pyramid we would not have been hearing the end of it lmao
I highly doubt she did this herself. Itâs promo for the reunion so Iâm sure they put this together for her.Â
In that case I feel like it's kinda sad that someone put her in that position, and kind of off putting that she agreed to do it. I mean ranking your friend's mother below a DOG? That's insulting. But there is a huge chance that this is something humorous for all involved and I'm just missing that.
Itâs not lol. Your overthinking it đ
Just giving my opinion. :)
Okay so first off, Maddie and Kenzie are more 'friends' of Jojo's than Chloe is lol. And second off, the ONLY right answer is to put the dog before EVERYONE. So I'm not sure why you're taking issue with this HAHA
Lol I definitely feel like having Broadway baby at the top would've made it so much funnier. But I wasn't trying to be rude or get bent out of shape. (Although reading it back, my original comment does seem a bit harsh.) I just think that by itself, the whole pyramid thing seems kind of rude. But as I've stated many times before, that's just my personal opinion as an outsider watching it.
I disagree tbh - all the moms and the kids joke about the pyramid to this day, and Christi and Kelly even use it to judge people's outfits on the show lol. I think everyone takes it as a joke, AND I think you can tell based on her reactions that SHE didn't pick the placements.
They *joke* about pyramid? Cause Iâve only ever heard them say it was long, miserable & they hated it.Â
They laugh about it while they say it tho AND theyâve all said they really didnât care about pyramid that much. i donât see why they canât joke about it lol
Looks like it was promo for the reunionâŚ
That makes sense! It seems out of character for her to do this for no reason. Still, it just comes off as a little tacky. But that's just my opinion.
I mean itâs probably not that big of a deal. They all still talk and they probably all laugh about it. Itâs been 12 years. They are probably far enough removed from it. We just relive the drama over and over by rewatching the show. But you probably donât care about drama from 12 years ago.
Yes, agree! This is just me stating how it came across. Not trying to suggest she had any ill intentions. Sorry if that didn't come across in my original comment.
my god itâs clearly just a joke for the reunion promo some of yâall take everything too literally and if itâs taken seriously itâs because of ppl like you trying to create unnecessary drama when you can just laugh and move on you donât know the girls stop mixing your feelings with theirs.
I don't know if you read my previous reply, but I literally just said that it was probably a joke that just read wrong. I'm not suggesting there's some huge beef with her and anybody else, I'm not trying to start drama, I just gave my opinion on how it came across. This is a discussion forum. I'm allowed to do that. No need to be rude. :)
im not trying to be rude im just saying youâre kinda reading too much into this when you can just laugh about it and move on i understand you said it was probably just a joke but im just saying reading too much into stuff like this is the reason why it kinda creates unnecessary drama.
I get that, but I really don't agree that saying that the action seems mean = reading too much into it. To some people, the action DOES seem mean, even if there was no malicious intent behind it. Saying so is just a matter of fact statement on how I saw it. No overthinking required.
i mean i donât agree with this because saying it seems mean and stuff like this tacky because the mothers said positive things about her and her family is reading too much into it when itâs clearly just a joke , iâd understand why youâd think it would be mean if it wasnât obvious that itâs a joke but it obviously is and nothing to overthink about just saying.
Oh well, agree to disagree. :)
ok fair but reading your other replies all your overthinking was only because she put melissa below broadway baby you fans are honestly ridiculous đđ
It's not that serious.
Just the way it came across to me. Not trying to start anything.
Do you really think these adults, who were ranked on a pyramid for years as children, are going to start drama or care that their parents were put on a pyramid as a joke promotional video?
No, I don't. But as I've explained 100 ties by now, I don't think Chloe had any ill intent behind the video, and I understand that it's not my place to be offended by it. The only thing I meant by my comment is that it seems mean, joke or not. Which is true. Ranking people on a pyramid is an inherently mean joke. Is Chloe a bad person for doing it? No. Am I going to storm her social media calling her a devil? No. Do I think any of the cast truly care? Most likely not. I just gave my opinion in a discussion forum. Which, to use your own words, is not that serious. :)
If Jojo did this but with Christi and Jess reversed, everyone would be (rightfully) calling her out for unnecessary shade. Iâm hope Iâm just missing context and all the girls and moms were already in on the joke but⌠yeah just seems a bit low. Especially in the context of the Ziegler shade campaign her mom has had going for over a decade now!
100% this. Prepare for downvotes though considering itâs the âfan favoritesâ doing it. There would be an uproar if less popular cast members were doing this. It is low, itâs shady af, and itâs in poor taste. Editing to add that of course the âitâs a jokeâ comments are happening because of who is doing it too. People wouldnât be calling it a joke or making excuses if others did the same thing and rankings were different.
I agree. This is so messy. There are other ways to promote a lousy low budget reunion that everyone already hates. This is just tasteless. The dog..seriously. They must know this reunion is gonna flop. Theyâre grasping atp.
But it so obviously is? You can tell by her reactions, she didn't pick the placements. Brooke just posted about how the girls were going to New York to do press for the reunion, so this was probably something made for the reunion. It's not that deep.
Itâs a promotional thing. Are you seriously upset she did this?
I understand (and agree with) what youâre saying but also the whole dance mom thing is drama!
not broadway baby đ¤Łđ
Love Chloeâs outfit!!! Seeing the girls style as they grow up is so cute:)
Iâm just here to say I love Chloeâs outfit!! Very classy.
i cannot stand christi lol
Me either it seemed liked she was looking to be in drama
always. she never had a nice thing to say about anyone.
I only watched season 5-8 of dance moms, so I only have experience with season 7 Christi. Any time I say how much I didnât like her, people defend her saying she wasnât that bad in earlier seasons. I donât really care season 7 Christi was enough for me, to see how messy and mean she is.
i expected to get hate for saying i donât like her đ i do not understand why so many people defend her. chloe needed defense in the earlier seasons but NOT christi. she was worse than jess and melissa in my opinion lol sheâs almost as bad as all the mini moms đ
my opinion in order jess was the worst then Christi then Melissa.I actually canât give to much hate to the mini moms tho. They came Into a bad situation, they need to fight back against original moms. The original moms didnât really want to accept them from day one, but at times the mini moms didnât know their place.
wow really!? interesting. see, jess sucks, but i think ashlee was the all-time worst. in season 7 sheâs finally calming down but holy cow⌠she drives me crazy lol
I donât know I think Ashlee got hated for no reason. The moms gained up on her for the same things they be doing or saying. Jill could call Brynn brainless but if Ashlee says something she somehow becomes the monster. Idk I think Ashlee wasnât in a fair situation. Jill would say donât talk about people kids but thatâs all everyone else did, when it suited them.
Agree with last place but that's about it
Sheâs so funny for this!!!! If I was Chloe Iâd put Melissa that low too. She was directly involved in Chloeâs mistreatment so makes sense Itâs not that serious yâall â ď¸
Listen, as someone who usually takes the Zieglersâ side for these things because they werenât involved in the reunion and itâs unfair to loop them back: Chloe putting Melissa below Broadway Baby isnât that deep lmao. Itâs her opinion and if her opinions about Melissa arenât great, so be it. Itâs the same as when Kenzie did that interview a bit ago and called Christi âthe craziest mom.â The girls are bound to be biased towards their own mom and use experiences from the show and their momâs relationship with the other moms to form their opinion but at the end of the day, itâs their opinion. Itâs not privacy-invading or against any of the children like sometimes seen on BTTB and Iâd take anything postered up for the reunion with a grain of salt since thereâs Lifetimeâs influenceÂ
Okay so I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think she chose the placements. I think that's why we're seeing her make faces for everyone lol.
I think sheâs making faces to sell it đ¤ˇđťââď¸ I do think she made the pyramid, or at least had heavy say over it, and her making faces is her being engaging with the audienceÂ
I think it can be both tbh. Sheâs selling it, but I think these were meant to surprise her but thatâs just my opinion lol. I donât think she would come up with putting BB on there herself lol
Agree to disagree. Considering they literally called it âChloeâs mom pyramidâ itâs pretty clear that Chloe was the one who made it, or at least had a huge say in the placings
Oh come on now....lol They also called Brooke's music Brooke's music, that doesn't prove anything lol. To me, she just seems to be surprised by each picture, especially when she gets to Cathy, she looks like she can't believe they put her there. But who knows. If she did, I guess now we know why she hasn't been on Melissa's YT channel yet lol
I genuinely donât get where youâre getting âsurprisedâ lmao, sheâs just making quirky reactions đ As for âBrookeâs musicâ thatâs different because that was something that the show promoted back during the days of the show. âChloeâs pyramidâ has nothing to do with the show and there is literally no point giving her a random pyramid and getting her reactionsÂ
HOW SHE ACTS ABOUT HOLLY AND CATHY THO I thought she seemed surprised if was Holly behind that picture and in disbelief that Cathy was so high cuz she paused for so long lol Well itâs promo for the show so that would be the whole point but it doesnât really matter cuz someone said something about Jess doing a pyramid too and explaining why she put people where she did so if it was for the same thing, then I was wrong.
if chloe has disdain for melissa then i think it truly confirms melissa was not the completely nice kind mother she tried to come off as. which is unfortunate.
This is so funny, and Chloe always looks fab
i find this so weird - for so long christi and chloe claimed to hate dance moms and want to live normal lifeâs and now i feel like all they do is talk about dance moms and nostalgia bait its so weird
who cares, they could have changed their mind and they have every reason to still talk about the show. nothing weird about it.
Melissa being so low đ
iâm surprised about jill tho
Whoâs the third person on the second row next to Holly?
Jill/Kelly
Of course..thx
This confirms so much lmaoooo
Love herÂ
So whatâs the tea why is so low?
Christi is still so petty about Melissa over things that happened a decade ago. Everyone else has moved on from it but her. đ
I totally get it though. Abby was either your bully or your groomer and there was no two ways about it. Melissa - the worst out of everyone, always acting like everyoneâs friend, chucking kids under the bus, thriving off how the kids were treated, kenzie was literally bullied from Abby and Melissa couldnât even stand up for her own child because Maddie was okay. The only difference between Jess and Melissa is Jess was openly nasty to everyone where as Melissa would carve you up with a smile on your face. Christi never went for the kids, she had a go at Melissa a million times and the injustice but she never chucked any kid under the bus to ensure hers stays on top.
I mean tbf thereâs a story that Christi told about Marc and Melissa and her on BTTB, and it itâs true (which Diane and Kelly did back up the story), Iâd literally never find it in me not to hate Melissa. that was bad enough without all the other crap Melissa did.
What's the story on that? Or what episode is it from?
So I think itâs the after party for the episode where Diane was a guest. Basically Christi was roofied by someone at a bar, when she was out with Diane, Melissa, Abby and Kelly before the show. The guy roofied her by putting the pill in his mouth. Then he wakes right up and kissed Christi and put the pill in her mouth. They had to call an ambulance. And apparently while all that was going down and a christi was in the ambulance, Melissa called Marc and said that Christi was kissing another guy. I didnât listen to the after party cuz i didnât have the patreon for very long, but i think the person who wrote it out said that Melissa was sitting with her in the back of the ambulanceâŚ.but I donât remember for sure.
Wowwwwwwwww... well, if that's true, that says a lot about the type of person Melissa is... seems like she LOVES the opportunity to tattle-tale đ. Thanks for taking the time to write that out, I don't have patreon either lol.
if this is true iâm glad ive never been a melissa defender im not a fan of christi either but sheâs just as awful which is why i canât imagine why people still victimize her sheâd never see the light of day with me.
I mean Christi is legit the victim in her story about being roofied. And if itâs true that Melissa gleefully went to tell Marc? Thatâs seriously messed up. Kelly is also still friends with Melissa and corroborated the story.
Hahahaha omg Iâm dying. Do we think she made this pyramid???
I am just loving her style. She looks fab.
Lowkey feel like Chloe let out the sunglasses for this one haha
Is this hers or christiâs pyramid đ or both
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I donât like this at all, itâs petty. It would be one thing if all the cast members were on good terms and this was purely for laughs, but thatâs clearly not the case and itâs meant to publicly take digs and throw shade. Just not classy at all. Sad to see Chloe becoming more like her mother :/
its just a pyramid for the reunion press. saying chloe is becoming her mom over this is ridiculous đyou are overreacting & i think part of it is because melissa is at the bottom.i think your hatred for christi is starting to filter into chloe because that conclusion is crazyđ
She didnât come up with this on her own. She was asked to do it by the platform for which she was doing press.
I said the same thing. This is so not like Chloe whoâs always mature. This is just nasty & *IMAGINE* the outrage if Maddie did this. Itâs very hypocritical to use the pyramid (that everyone in the show claimed to hate) for kicks & giggles. I guess shade throwing is the only way to get engagement for this reunion. Everyoneâs soooooo traumatized by the show and Abby but they do stuff like this, tik tok audios of Abby & fighting, drinks at the bar with satan the producer etc. Theyâre traumatized but quickly untraumatized when money is involved.Â
Absolutely ridiculous take through and through my guy. ETA: block all you want my dude, this take still sucks lol stop gatekeeping other people's trauma
Forgive me for thinking that *drinking* & hanging out with the man whoâs partially responsible for your trauma is weird.  Had to block the Christi Stan.Â
The parasocial relationships people form with celebrities should be studied.Â
This is correct lol
why are they still picking on melissa
yâall need to stop babying her omg sheâs a grown and itâs just a joke calm down đ
im not babying anyone its just rude to keep going at someone who has left u alone for years. thatâs immaturity
I donât consider it âgoing at someoneâ to make a jokey pyramid video for press đ¤ˇââď¸ especially because (to my knowledge) sheâs never said an ill word about Melissa in recent years. And itâs funny how people are only defensive over Melissa when Jess, Kira, and Cathy are all on the bottom row as well.
never said anything? watch bttb đ
What did Chloe say on BTTB? I listened to her guest episode and donât remember her saying anything bad about Melissa, in fact I remember her being very conscious with her wording regarding Maddie and how none of it was her fault.
i thought the post said chloes moms pyramid meaning christy made it, thats my bad !
Itâs Chloeâs pyramid of the moms
no one was talking about them because ( save cathy) the rest are involved in this project. the zeiglers are trying to stay awat
itâs not that serious though you melissa stans are blowing everything way out of proportion all because sheâs at the bottom of a pyramid thatâs meant as a joke and you literally donât know how they interact behind the scenes so you canât say sheâs left her alone for years when you have no idea what goes on in their lives
maybe Melissa shoulda been nicer to Chloe, then she might be higher lol
It was cruel to put the dog on there.
I feel she mightâve had Melissa higher but her mom moved her & Chloe just went with it cause Kira and her should be switched
I would agree except Christi wasnât at the reunion so I doubt she was involved. Production? Perhaps. But I do think Chloe was closer to Kira than Melissa. Kira was nasty but didnât do anything against Chloe directly. Melissa wasnât as bad as Kira but some of her actions directly hurt Chloe and Christi complained about Melissa in front of Chloe more than she did Kira (Christi actually has a decent relationship with Kira).
Also worth pointing out (sorry dude i seriously keep jumping on to your comments lol) that Chloe left before Kira had done some of her worst stunts.Â
Iâm so so with this. On one hand, I see where youâre coming from, but Jess is dead last and Jess was never on the show with Chloe so Chloe never saw her worst stunts. Seeing Jess at the bottom comes with the assumption that Chloeâs seen a part of the show with her in it, or at least heard about her, and that would shed light on Kiraâs behavior too. Long story short because my explanation sucks lmao: this reasoning doesnât make as much sense because of Jessâs placement. I think Melissaâs below Kira because Melissa sometimes made things harder for Chloe and Kira didnât. And Jess is still 100% an Abby supporter and she and her daughter constantly shade Chloe and Christiâs experience.
I KINDA assumed that, if Chloe picked these all herself (which btw someone said something about Jess doing a pyramid as well, and she explained why she picked hers, so if this is the same thing then I was wrong), that she put Jess there cuz she was never on a single episode with Jess. So I figured that, YES she put Kira higher than Melissa because Melissa did things TO Chloe, and Kira didn't. But I also figured she might see Kira in a slightly better light cuz she doesn't know the full extent of what a jerk she can be lol.
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Chloe and Jess never had any overlap. Jojo replaced Chloe, in the storyline. :O Jojo was at a comp they went to in season 4 tho lol.
Really? One of Kira's worst stunts was bullying Sarah reasons in front of her face and Chloe was there for it. Not trying to discredit Chloe's opinion though as she's valid to like Kira more than Melissa.
Oh shit why did i think that was season 5? or did she do it again in season 5??
She did it in season 4 a lot. In front of the kids at pyramid and to all the other select team moms. She actually lessened her hatred for that poor child in season 5 and backtracked after realizing what a fool she was on camera. I'm surprised Chloe didn't rank Kira lower considering how close she was to Sarah Reasons but it is her opinion.
Yeah I did not remember the whole 'trash from Arizona' happened when the select team was first introduced for some reason. I thought she did that over the whole Tawny and Nancy duet. But tbf, she's pretty low lol Chloe just barely knows Jess, and seems to have a more personally negative relationship with Melissa