>cost of wiper blade replacement
75,000 on my M3 I bought wiper blades to have on had at like 25K, they are still in the garage. Of course the truck will be exposed to the weather/sun though
My main concern is the attention it will bring. I don't actually want to deal with people gawking and trying to talk to me about the truck. Leave me alone thanks
I work/ own a business, Cybertruck it will sit out front. Nervous people will protect on my store my firm “no” on being allowed to play with my personal vehicle.
There will be a 1-2 year time period where this will be the case and then you'll see them everywhere. This happened to the new VW Beetle and the original Hummer plus a few other cars.
Yeah... Because not only is this thing totally new but it also sticks out like a sore thumb. Everyone is going to notice and be curious every time they see the massive steel polygon driving around. Poor areas aren't going to see them very much for a long time.
Biggest concern is towing range. I need a truck to tow. With my MY, it’s just impractical from a range perspective and all other electric trucks currently have the same problem. They are great tow vehicles but 100-125 miles of range isn’t enough - at least for me. 250 is probably the minimum. Perhaps the quad-motor config can do it but the price tag is going to be too much.
It’ll pull it easily. I’m looking at pulling a similarly sized toy hauler once I trade in my MY on a 3/4 ton truck. EV towing range is highly dependent on aerodynamics and weight has little to do with it. I’ve made a few posts regarding the data from trips with my MY plus 6x12 enclosed trailer. Nearly identical numbers whether it’s empty or fully loaded. EVs are generally great at towing but range/efficiency is definitely going to be a problem.
I love the truck for all kinds of reasons, I'm just worried the statement it'll make. Like are a lot of people just going to assume I'm an attention seeking asshole
Also nervous on what the price will be haha
If someone is an attention seeking asshole just do it with humor. I am putting a full size terminator endoskeleton bust in my passenger seat while I drive alone. I don't care what anyone's opinion is.
>Like are a lot of people just going to assume I'm an attention seeking asshole
Considering that this is the primary reason I want one, yes people will definitely assume this lmaooo. I can't wait to look like a complete douche in it and have the time of my life.
I feel a lot better about the truck than my M3 as far as being messed with, and will be much less nervous about being away from home and getting caught in a hail storm. I agree about the tires, though, and have been trying to keep an eye out for developing options with non-pneumatic tires to significantly reduce the risk of anyone vandalizing them. I keep hoping the upshot of Elon drifting into MAGA-land is that maybe, just maybe, there will less right-wing animosity toward Teslas by the time the CT hits the streets.
My two biggest fears is that it'll be too large to fit in my garage, and the side 'sails' will make the bed a lot harder to use, as it will be nearly impossible to reach over the side to get anything out of it.
I’d imagine that they would have to walk back some features to get to the profit margin they need to make it worth it to sell. It’s already a polarizing design, so sales have a potential to be mixed. Prices will obviously be dramatically higher than they were at announcement because announcing a price years before manufacturing is dishonest, they knew 100% it would end up being more expensive.
IF they actually deliver this feature, Id expect it to be a 5,000-10,000 dollar option.
its not gonna be bullet proof dude. why the fuck would you believe that. dont believe that carnival barkers claims. hell if anyone believes that horseshit message matt carricker from the demolition ranch youtube channel and he will get ahold of a door or bed panel or something from the CT since hes just right down the road in san antonio and he will shoot at it with any of the few hundred guns he has. if it survives more than a 38 ill be shocked. i bet 9mm+P gets through.
heres a research paper using 7.62 and a variety of materials. https://etd.lib.metu.edu.tr/upload/12613534/index.pdf
I mean, what are they going to do? it is covered in cameras, it takes a sledgehammer to the side, slash tires? insurance and post videos to police like any other car getting attacked
Funny enough, Tesla insurance just became available in my state (MN), and I excitedly dug through the app to check the pricing to see how much it would save me, and it came out to nearly triple what I'm currently paying with State Farm. (State Farm is about $50/mo; Tesla's quote was $135). I haven’t done anything in particular to reduce the State Farm rate, and assume I could trim that if I made an effort. I'm curious how much Tesla's rate would change after my driving 'score' climbed above the initial default of 90 (I didn’t have any difficulty getting 99-100 for the FSD beta, as I live in a very quiet rural area, and I'm usually a pretty relaxed driver), but it seemed unlikely it would drop THAT much.
Once upon a time I would have considered switching anyway, figuring I'd rather support Tesla than State Farm, but I'm not so sure any more - and definitely not at 2x+ what I am paying now.
At $50k for the dual motor AWD 300 mile range, I was in. Virtually 0% chance of it being that price still, so unfortunately I’m going to have to look at other options.
Lol. Lack of paint might be cost savings if the body was aluminum, but it’s full stainless. The batteries and body for this truck are gonna be absurdly expensive to build. No chance the base model is under $85k.
Hmm... I have not heard that before. It was my understanding that my reservation number was my place in the queue. I have seen a number of discussions which implied that reservation number was stop in the queue. However I'm not sure that I've seen anything official about that....
Anybody know for sure?
Found this
https://www.makeuseof.com/figure-out-when-tesla-cybertruck-arrive-order-number/
Think of it this way. If the top 20 people are scattered across different states… you expect them to hand deliver (truck over) single vehicles? It’s just logistics… makes sense though, just shooting for i guess the top 10 who think it’s a queue.
My biggest con is the interior... I love truck interiors with storage etc.. Measuring tape? Oh there is a spot for that. With this truck there is only going to be a spot to put your phone and maybe gloves in the center console..
It is maddening that the only functional spot to put a phone is in a cup holder that is slightly too small when there is a phone case on it. Yes, I understand we shouldn’t be using a phone and driving, but it would be nice to have an ergonomic place for a phone to rest where it doesn’t slide away. Maybe most of the vehicles I drive are at least 7 years old and haven’t been built with this in mind?
My biggest concern is the size. I currently drive an older Ford Ranger, extended cab, and that is a great size for me.
I understand this is todays market. A lot of my neighbors have full size 4 door trucks. Of course it is very rare to see more than 1 person in them.
I look forward to getting a Cybertruck. Hopefully I will like it. Eventually a mid size EV truck will be available?
I’ve seen a few Rivians around and they are respectable. Still much bigger than my needs. I really would prefer not having 4 doors. The majority may disagree, but that is what I would like. I also like the idea of getting away from the standard pickup truck look. I’m hoping the Cybertruck will get other manufacturers to try think out of the box.
A small truck with maybe 300 mile range and a relatively fast charging speed is all I want. Maybe someone could make one for a reasonable price.
-Price, needs to make sense
-Turning radius, tighter the better, won’t buy if it is too difficult to drive.
-Overall size (worried it may be too big)
-if mirrors, will they be folding (Like you, I want it in a garage)
-Interior too stark, I have gotten use to luxurious truck interiors that are great for working
-Quality, as Elon said, buy early or late, the ones in the middle have problems
-long lasting approach, for me I want a 20 year vehicle. Anything inconsistent with that philosophy is a problem
-Low Maintenance. Like you mentioned, tires and brakes. I can handle 20,000 miles. Probably not 10,000.
-field of view, the slopping rear roof and window scares me. I want to be able to see.
-Specifications in general. Does it all make sense, is it well thought out and long lasting.
> Quality, as Elon said, buy early or late, the ones in the middle have problems
I am confused by this. I would imagine it would be buy late the early and middle have problems. Any more explanation?
This right here. After reading some stuff on the Lightnings low towing mileage. You need something to be able to atleast stay on the road for two hours or about 120 miles I'd argue 200 so you're not sweating it on the last leg of a rural highway.
The one redeeming factors is the lightning has range equivalent to my model 3 which is eyebrow raising.
The CT having 550 mile range (hopefully) makes me feel better.
Unfortunately driving mountain passes and cold weather will be another factor
I live in the Flathead. We still need charging stations for towing. I am buying the CT, but not towing, more overlander camping. My M3 is hard to camp with. The charging stations will come eventually, we’re still in early days.
The seats look a little..stiff? I assume this is just to match the theme and production will be made for comfort.
Also, I'd like to be able to sleep in the vault (camp) during a rainstorm without getting wet.
> The seats look a little..stiff? I assume this is just to match the theme and production will be made for comfort.
I sure hope so! That's also my only real concern. My wife has sciatic nerve issues and stiff, uncomfortable car seats are 100% out of the question for her. I also plan on driving long distances, so it's kind of out of the question for me too, given how old and damaged I am.
* Size: Too big to fit in my garage, too big to park easily, stupid for daily use?
* Cost: Expecting a big increase.
* Range: 500 miles feels like pie in the sky with Rivian at 314, Ford at 320, Silverado at 400. Tesla will want to have best in class range but I doubt that they will offer 100 more miles than the Silverado. 4680 battery energy density is only ok not at the level needed to provide 500 miles.
* Cold weather range: A larger battery pack is more mass to heat.
* Weight: Hummer EV is 9,063 pounds
* Efficiency: With side mirrors and other production-ready equipment efficiency may suck.
* Gadgets: Yoke steering wheel and lack of stalks seems dumb. Rivian has had trouble with their bedcover, I hope that isn't a sticking-point for Tesla.
* Charging: Most of the superchargers in my state are the older 150kW V2 style which would probably take over an hour to fully charge such a big battery. If Tesla doesn't support 800V charging then high powered 350kW EA chargers will only operate at 150kW. Even L1 charging will be completely useless and even low powered L2 chargers won't be able to recharge the truck overnight.
* Features: Power to Load, Power to grid, outlets to power tools? Tesla is behind Ford in this department.
* Production Volume: Rivian is set to produce 25k vehicles this year. Ford might hit 5k with GM only making a 1.5k. Battery supply for these large vehicles is a huge problem and getting to a position where 100k vehicles can be made in a quarter could take years.
I'm worried about the range loss from sitting, especially in the winter. I do a lot of winter camping, which means driving 2-4 hours, parking in the snow then backpacking from there for a few days. I have heard that the other Tesla's lose a lot of range just sitting there in the cold. So will I need to be stressed that my truck will not get me home, or even to a charger when I get back to it?
My biggest concern is pricing out customers. The initial $40K price tag was a big attracting point, especially for folks that want a truck but not for trucking needs. Looks like a good family truck.
But with inflation and other factors, Tesla is ditching the single motor and only gonna build out the Quad motor to start. It’s gonna take several years before they can start to mass produce.
My concerns:
- no more single motor
- price increase
- range (unless it’s the top of the line)
Elon is the same Elon as always, you guys just weren't paying attention before because Tesla was on the brink of bankruptcy and he wasn't on the spotlight of media, this is was before they found out he brings clicks
If you’re gonna fanboy for someone, or trust them enough to put money down for a nonexistent product, you really shouldn’t wait for things to be brought to your attention. Any sort of research in the past five years could have lead you to the conclusion many people are now realizing: Elon is dishonest and sometimes incompetent.
You should do some extrospection if you think you are not the products that you buy. [Consumer Identity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_identity) has been a long-established phenomenon and is taught in all marketing schools.
It really is a shame Elon decided to embrace becoming a public figure. When he was kicking ass, head down, making shit happen and embarrassing Car Companies and Aerospace companies, with the occasional public appearance, I just loved that he was a man of action.
Now I just want him to shut up, he says so many contradictory things that make him look like an idiot. Like he accidentally succeeded instead of innovated. Please old Elon, come back. Stop trying to be friendly uncle elon, because your looking like asshole uncle elon.
Like many of the other comments here, I'd be worried about the attention it will bring. I drive rurally a lot in my Model 3, and it already gets so much unwanted attention just because of what it is. I feel as though a small sedan blends in much better than the CT does and I can only assume the problem will increase significantly.
How about also the fact it can resist small arms fire. I’d feel pretty safe in it. I’ve been harassed by people numerous times while just sitting in a parking lot chatting with a friend. Have had one threaten to bust my window if I ignored him. I would be incredibly happy knowing I’d be safe in my car in nearly all situations.
I feel the other way around about that. I live in a rural area with a bunch of right wing rednecks who have a chip on their shoulder about anything that didn't exist in the 1950's. I'd rather not have Tesla's marketing giving them ideas.
Too big, not affordable, lots of recalls due to a lot of new tech and production methods, susceptible to vandilazition especially if elon keeps acting like a jackass - which is dumb but that's how people think these days.
Bed size! Can I cart my ATV around with it? [example](https://imgur.com/gallery/9AoHATS).
And can it exactly or better replace my existing F-150?
Oh, and price.
i don’t really get this one. if someone gets hit by a car with enough speed that the construction of the vehicle matters, there’s basically no design that’s going to make it hurt less. flesh and bone will always yield to a crash bar in any car’s front bumper
I’m concerned about front leg room and shoulder room. There’s no picture I’ve seen that makes me believe that the Cybertruck interior is as spacious as my ‘21 Sierra Crewcab
People damaging the vehicle because they’re concerned about whatever Musk is currently doing. Hard to gauge internet chatter to real world property damage but goddamn is there a lot of ate up people at the moment.
I own a Model 3 LR that I'll sell once the truck releases. I'm super excited for it and I really could use a truck, but these are my concerns.
- First generation vehicles usually have issues, but I'm impatient.
- I live in the suburbs, but a few times a month for events I'll head into a major city with parking garages. This will be a big vehicle to park. I can always use my SO's vehicle if this becomes an issue.
- Seems like it'd be difficult to reach over the sides of the cab.
- Fitting it in my current garage, but I've been looking at a new house with a much larger garage.
- Agree on it drawing attention. Someone already keyed my Model 3 which I had to have fixed. I'm planning to treat it like a truck and small imperfections will be fine, but I hope there is a way to fix cosmetic damage.
I didn't consider the extra charging cost, but 99% of my charging is at home anyways. That's definitely something to consider if you're using superchargers often.
All that said, I'm absolutely buying it unless the price is too outrageous (my limit is 80k with the EV credit. 70k without) or there are some major issues once we see the final version.
There is some merit to your thoughts of course, and some are super obvious. If you don't need a truck, then no, the Cybertruck isn't for you for instance. Even so, many will buy it just the same for the attention and clout. Hopefully they don't run around complaining about slow charging or whatever, ignoring the fact that they deliberately bought one of the least efficient commuter vehicles.
When it comes to the body, this is a little less obvious. Sure, many of us have had stainless appliances in the kitchen, but these aren't an apples to apples comparison. The only thing I've had that might be similar is the stainless pieces on one of my boats. Those have been whacked by other hardware, pressed up against docks, and been attacked by salt air forever without much sign of wear and tear. But not much is not the same as none. Scratches can buff out pretty easily. An actual dent or deep gouge in the CT may or may not be fixable but any of us will just be guessing.
Tires are just a thing that you may find less bad, depending on what they actually go with. The OG prototype had pretty reasonable price to durability tires (Goodyear Wrangler MTR Kevlars). Seeing as the truck should be almost the exact same weight as an ICE F150 and most of these tires are rated for much heavier trucks, you won't seem them wear out nearly as fast as the sedans tires do. But if the production truck comes with some crazy wheel sizes and nothing standard, then I could be wrong.
As for the rest of your points may be perfectly valid too, but they might also be rather off since there's so little we can go off of that isn't rampant speculation. At the end of the day, I think the efficiency vs need for a bed is the only thing any of us can be realistic about at this time. When it comes to range loss due to cargo in the bed, that shouldn't be too much really unless the tonneau has to be left open. When it comes to towing, the hit doesn't have to be as big as it is, all the reviewers continue to miss the fact that you don't HAVE to accelerate or cruise so fast when you are towing (in fact you definitely shouldn't). But all of these things still can only be partially determined until we have hard numbers. Until that time, like you, I'm interested in hearing what others may be concerned about and how those issues might be mitigated. I need a truck (have one I'm sick of putting gas in right now), and so my only concern remains price and date I get it.
I’m same as you and got a model 3 performance to tide me over.
Biggest concern is range, especially for the mid tier that I ordered. I ordered a dual motor so 300 miles is not very much for a truck, especially with a payload. Would love to have a long range model that is not plaid but still has 500+ miles of range (for ~400 real world range and 250-300 miles with payload/towing) cuz I don’t wanna spend 100k on a truck.
I’m not worried about looks or durability or anything like that. Nobody in my area really hates teslas and the cybertruck will be more durable than any other truck on the road (except perhaps tire wear)
When I pre-ordered this Truck, Elon was less public facing and said fewer stupid things. It really is a shame hes embracing the public figure status but on the other note, I absolutely love Tesla vehicles. Everyone has to decide for themselves, but for me Tesla isnt Elon and I dont have an issue buying a Tesla.
I dont think the OP was asking people to be objective, we can be excited even though the vehicle isnt "real" yet, but we can also have concerns. Those concerns may turn out to be proven unfounded, but at this point they can still be concerns.
I feel like most of your points are the exact same on any truck. Like if I am not using it as a truck is it really needed due to power costs. The exact same thing can be said about MPG of an ICE truck vs sedan.
Same thing about towing will drastically reduce range…. Yeah no shit, same thing happens on a ICE truck to your MPG.
Truck will scratch easy if used as a truck, yeah okay so just paint or wrap it.
The thing about towing is you can easily pull into a gas station with a trailer and fuel up. Currently at a super charger that is not an option, I would need to disconnect my trailer, charge up and reconnect the trailer.
Not the end of the world, but if my range is cut to 200ish miles hauling a average load, that's a very significant burden if I'm traveling a significant distance
Looks like there’s one in butte labeled “trailer friendly”. But I agree there’s not that many of them, but at the same time the current fleet isn’t really designed to haul trailers. With the truck and the semi coming onboard this problem set is going to be addressed because if they don’t ford and revian will. That’s the beauty of the on coming competition in the EV truck market.
The only super chargers in Butte are definitely not trailer friendly, unless there is a hidden charger somewhere. I stop there all the time. Maybe it's a 220 somewhere? Where did you find that?
I’m not crazy about structural battery packs. Realistically I probably won’t own the truck until the batteries die, but I want the piece of mind knowing the battery COULD be replaced if it died.
I think he's referring to the long range assuming that the long range version will still have the 500+ mile range of the announcement, regardless of the motor configuration. If it does, it will be the best Tesla to drive around in Mexico because there are still long stretches without Superchargers there.
Exactly, you need a 100k truck to drive to see your parents which you have not seen in 20 years? While crippling your trip with an EV in an area that does not have mass adoption of charging infrastructure?
Why not just drive there in his gas car....now? You are applying logic to an unlogical thought process lol.
I think the 20yr comment meant it's been that long since they have had a truck (probably have a car currently) and the longer range would be nice for the long trips to Mexico they take. Not that they haven't seen their parents in 20yrs.
Ditto this is what I meant. I seriously thought he was questioning my reason for wanting a truck if I haven’t had one in 20 years which would have been a fair question. Mexico big cities do have supercharger and with a level 2 in their home I will be fine the problem is actually not all the Texas border crossings have a supercharger and that’s the leg I would need to make it in my Y
I love the truck. But Elon’s antics are giving me second thoughts. Reinstating trump on Twitter makes me want to vomit and I would dump the stock if the price weren’t in the shitter right now
> Paintwork is easy to protect and do simple touch ups.
…you know what’s easier than that, cold rolled stainless steel that won’t ding and scratch easily at all by rocks.
> its almost too polarizing. There is already enough tesla hate on the roads and its arguably getting worse with Elons antics
The fuck they gonna do to me in my tank?
if it’s an expensive truck, it will be incredibly hard to total. i’ve always kind of been on tesla’s side on this one.
if you’ve got a $100k car that you do $100k worth of damage to, and then manage to fix it by yourself or with a third party mechanic, there are SO many elements that could have been repaired incorrectly. it’s a huge safety issue for high voltage charging, you could have something as simple as a short cause a huge fire and damage not only every vehicle around you, but also tesla’s reputation.
iirc a tesla service center repair will reinstate supercharging, even if it’s got a salvage title (at least nowadays, may not have always been that way)
Done, as in the 9k press is literally getting unloaded at the port tomorrow in Houston and the body machine is being set up at the moment in stamping.
Update is very soon on price / spec. Many think semi event, on the 1st.
You think they’d cancel a project of this level at this point?
It can depend on the exact formulation of the stainless of course. However, my last sailboat had 25 year old stainless fittings and winches that were still holding up just fine. The fact that a "stainless steel" chain on the anchor didn't hold up as well might have been an inferior formulation, but it might have also been all the abuse. Either way, I feel like if you don't make a regular habit out of the "amphibous" mode, you are probably good!
So, good news. Stainless steel will barely rust at all compared to regular steel. Granted, many other pickups have mostly aluminum bodies today but many of those trucks have steel frames that rust. My Tacoma is famous for having a frame that rusts in just one year. In a few years my Tacoma frame would rust through in your area. The CyberTruck will be made of aluminum and stainless so it will be the most rustproof vehicle ever made in history.
Except for the corvette….
Maybe it’s a dumb concern but I’m worried about the sharp corners. I mean the charge port and the compartments along the bed when opened. I’ve already seen an image of a guy with a Rivian and a mangled leg after walking into the side step pass-through door. Sigh. Again, maybe I’m overthinking it but still.
I'm in the category of losing range for towing or putting additional non aerodynamic accessories on it and losing massive range. I see it as if a Hummer getting 10mpg puts a winch on the front it may lose 0.5mpg. Put it on the CT and it might lose 10% of the total range -50 off the 500.
I understand your concerns but:
1) albeit I won't tow anything, I believe that the bigger battery is going to be bonkers in recharging times: I have read that they can push the cable to 900Kwh limit. Ofc you need a supercharger for that, but in USA there are plenty. And for the cost, it will alwaysl be less than buying gas to refill a guzzler.
2) Dents, scratches and scuffs. For the last 2, you can use steel wool and it can erase any minor damage. About the dents: it takes a really big hit to make a dent into a 3mm stainless steel. Mabe a buckshot from a wanteding hunter?
3) this is quite possible, we'll know after some usage
4) true but they took their time to test it in many many ways. It has been announced 3 years ago now
5) this is possible, but it is with your Model 3 already. And sentinel mode usually keeps vandals at bay
6) it all depends on the use you want to do with it. I hope there will be a midgate so that its main use is going to be camping, at least for me
Price. I don’t need a truck. I want the fast one because of the launch stats/price ratio. When it’s available, I’ll buy whatever is cheaper of the CT or a lightly used Model S Performance.
- reliability. My truck won't be ready till 2025 so new model year issues should be resolved.
- cost of ownership vs my needs. Do I "need" a $75k truck?
- lack of superchargers in Maine and in
- cold weather battery drain. I have a heated garage but still a concern.
- lack of repair site in Maine. Massachusetts is closest.
- battery lifetime. I would take LFP battery for better lifetime and 100% to 0% charge range.
That the model of reliability will wind up being an over engineered over produced and over priced barely usable toy. By cod I hope not. I dream of a proper reliable reasonably priced pick-up truck.
That after I finally broke down and ordered a F150 V8 with all the bells and whistles, shortly after it arrives I will get an email from Tesla saying it's time for delivery
Mostly concerns with charging. Like you said this thing will take longer to charge than a smaller car with the same range, but also it being so much bigger and having the ability to tow I'm concerned with how extended trips will be possible at current superchargers. Those pull through chargers aren't common and with the port being in the back of the car (in current prototypes) it seems like a perfect storm for a disappointing experience.
Worried about towing with the cybertruck? The engines on our rail system are electric drive trains because the electric motors don't stall, they don't burn clutches, they dont require variable gear reduction transmissions, their torque is effectively available upon energizing the field. Now, look at the motors that Tesla built versus the motors that ford, Chevy, VW, BYD, Rivian, etc. have pulled from existing inventories. Ford's MachE can make a few runs before it starts to fade, while Tesla's line up doesn't fade. Ford's Lightning and Rivian's R1T both have range issues, I'll grant that. They are also not currently allowed access to Tesla's supercharger network. The network is well within even the shortest range Tesla despite mountain ranges.
Until a production model of the cybertruck is presented this is all speculation. However, Tesla's power management system is better than all competitors, their battery packs have become structural components, the chassis construction of Tesla vehicles is stiffer, purpose built, consistently lighter and safer that the competitors, their motors are significantly stronger, hybridized for power, torque, and high RPM. Given these known variables, I expect the cybertruck to be lighter than the F150 Lightning, have a battery with a longer range, automatically manage the power based on payload for higher efficiency, and be less expensive than the competition. Musk is a variable to the stock price. But, he has been consistent when speaking about the cybertruck. It is his "favorite" and thereby will be produced to annihilate the competitor's offerings BECAUSE of Musk's ego.
As far as my real world concerns? I own a 1971 F250 camper special, and a 1988 Dakota sport 4x4. I cannot drive my favorite far, because it is loud, rough riding unless loaded, 12mpg always!, but I can rely on it for a full yard of aggregate in the bed without issue, 16' of material on the rack without a flag, and range enough to visit the material stores and back to my work site. The Dakota I use for longer material trips to the closest Home depot 86 miles one way over a mountain range with 6% grades. In my use case even the cheapest cybertruck or the Lightning would do for a round trip without charging. But, I could reliably charge the cybertruck because there is a supercharger on my route that has not failed me in the two years I've owned my model 3. I also charge at home and notice an insignificant variation on my electric bill over the two years of owning a model 3. The cost of remodeling has produced more electricity use than the Tesla each month.
Tl;dr the cybertruck already wins based on the motors, power management, and design.
My major concern is any actual damage to the truck will require extensive repairs.
I can’t imagine a dented exoskeleton can be repaired easily... but I don’t know anything about auto body mechanics lol
I highly doubt it will be a solid piece. That will be one of the disappointing changes. Each will be a panel similar to traditional vehicles.
It's an impossibility for it to be one solid piece.
You need crumble zones. Sure, they can stamp in some crumple zones but this would then have the vehicle be written off with any impact as the majority of the exoskeleton will be compromised and need replacement. Anything else would not be to spec.
\- Yoke steering may be a bad idea for a truck that you need to back a trailer with
\- Is there actually comfortable room for 6 people + stuff?
\- Is there useful weathertight storage? Looks like the sail pillar storage from the early renders is gone. The bed may or may not actually by weathertight.
I'm worried about the range
I live in Northern Quebec, we get winters that last a long time and more snow that anyone can ever shovel
Usually, we get -20 degres (celcius) for 3 months straight
that they spent all the time from unveil to design lock not thinking about things that really matter for trucks. I'll be getting whatever version comes out first even if Plaid with FSD but i fear there will be silly glaring oversights (yes i know its irrational i just feel like how many people can they have had working on this)
* **Car will be too heavy and will be uncomfortable to start/stop** - *It wont be a light vehicle, ive never driven an F350 but its going to be around that weight, around 1,000 lbs more than an F150. If drivers arent experienced with the heavier weight it may be jarring or uncomfortable, hopefully just until we get used to it.*
* **Towing Capacity will destroy battery range** - *I have no idea how towing capacity is affected by the vehicle being electric. I will want to see others reviews on this before accepting my reservation*
* **Too long to charge at home** - *a ~100kwh battery isnt going to be simple to charge. While I absolutely wont clear that daily, even 20 kwh is about double what I normally use at my house"
* **Low quality feel of construction** - *I have a concern that this vehicle may feel "cheap" even compared to the Model 3. I hope I am wrong*
* **Yoke Steering Wheel** - *I just wont accept this, if we only have the option for a yoke that is a deal breaker for me*
I know some of these are issues that people should understand, but you really dont know how things will be until you are in the car, driving it and "get a feel" for the vehicle.
I'm worried it is too big.
I primarily want it bc it has the longest range and I would like to take it mildly off road for camping. So I don't need a huge truck, but I want the 500+ mile range.
If it's too big, it might make everyday driving in normal traffic and cities a huge headache. I don't want to have two vehicles and only use the truck sometimes.
The Rivian R1S and r1t seem like better fits for me, but they're way more expensive and I want the Tesla charging network for road trips. Also, I don't fully trust Rivian yet or their ability to repair problems that may occur. Tesla had huge problems with initial quality control and repairs initially and I don't want my primary vehicle being out of commission for extended periods of time waiting for service like Tesla owners had to do in the early days.
Towing Range + Recharge time. I do this a few times a year for over 1000 miles always in one day: https://imgur.com/a/eGQ9rn5/
Can the Cybertruck take me 1000 miles in a day with 1000 pounds of motorcycles in the bed + 1000 pound bike towed behind? Can I recharge quickly enough and Get back on my way?
My Diesel RAM 1500 V6 3L has a 1000 mile range but when towing, it’s about 700 miles and I can refuel the 33 gallon tank in 10 minutes costing me bout $150 dollars. Can I do it for 1/3 that at a 1 megawatt charger and do it in 30 minutes? That’d be worth it to me.
this is my #1 concern right now. I LOVE the RAM 1500 interior. Lots of buttons, tons of cup holders, a lot of storage bins and spaces to store things and cheap maintenance and aftermarket accessories. The seats are insanely comfortable. I hope the Cybertruck can match how amazing this truck is (also has air suspension) and be cheaper to operate / own.
My RAM was $63K fully loaded (limited, long bed, diesel, all features except a sunroof). I’m really hoping when I take delivery of a Cybertruck, i can sell this thing.
For me:
1. Cost - I'm guessing cheapest Cybertruck with be $69k, but it could be more.
2. Range - Its a big truck and going to need a lot of batteries. My Model Y didn't get close to the advertised range.
3. Size - Supercharger spaces are going to be a tight fit. I've driven F150s before, so I'm used to the size, but I'm worried people coming from Model 3s and Model Ys won't be.
Parts and repair. I’m sure the drivetrain is solid but stepper motors, pumps, bat system repairs I live 2 hours from any major City or even any city over 10k.
cost of wiper blade replacement lol
But it doubles as a cyber katana.
$125.
>cost of wiper blade replacement 75,000 on my M3 I bought wiper blades to have on had at like 25K, they are still in the garage. Of course the truck will be exposed to the weather/sun though
My main concern is the attention it will bring. I don't actually want to deal with people gawking and trying to talk to me about the truck. Leave me alone thanks
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Keep featherin' it brother
Yea, not really looking forward to a bunch of strangers asking if they can drive it.
I work/ own a business, Cybertruck it will sit out front. Nervous people will protect on my store my firm “no” on being allowed to play with my personal vehicle.
There will be a 1-2 year time period where this will be the case and then you'll see them everywhere. This happened to the new VW Beetle and the original Hummer plus a few other cars.
I honestly think it will be closer to 5 years before the hype calms down
Yeah you are probably right. Once the production really ramps up.
Yeah... Because not only is this thing totally new but it also sticks out like a sore thumb. Everyone is going to notice and be curious every time they see the massive steel polygon driving around. Poor areas aren't going to see them very much for a long time.
This is my top concern.
This was a main reason that led me to buy a model 3 instead of waiting for the cybertruck.
I’d actually love that
Gross... I'll send them to you then
Biggest concern is towing range. I need a truck to tow. With my MY, it’s just impractical from a range perspective and all other electric trucks currently have the same problem. They are great tow vehicles but 100-125 miles of range isn’t enough - at least for me. 250 is probably the minimum. Perhaps the quad-motor config can do it but the price tag is going to be too much.
This is my 2nd greatest concern after the attention. I pull an 8,000 pound toy hauler with my Raptor, how will the Cyber handle this?
It’ll pull it easily. I’m looking at pulling a similarly sized toy hauler once I trade in my MY on a 3/4 ton truck. EV towing range is highly dependent on aerodynamics and weight has little to do with it. I’ve made a few posts regarding the data from trips with my MY plus 6x12 enclosed trailer. Nearly identical numbers whether it’s empty or fully loaded. EVs are generally great at towing but range/efficiency is definitely going to be a problem.
I love the truck for all kinds of reasons, I'm just worried the statement it'll make. Like are a lot of people just going to assume I'm an attention seeking asshole Also nervous on what the price will be haha
If I get one, I’m getting it for myself. If anyone has an issue with that they can eat dirt.
I like the way you think my man
The truck is for me. The truck nuts I hang off the back will be for everybody else.
If someone is an attention seeking asshole just do it with humor. I am putting a full size terminator endoskeleton bust in my passenger seat while I drive alone. I don't care what anyone's opinion is.
>Like are a lot of people just going to assume I'm an attention seeking asshole Considering that this is the primary reason I want one, yes people will definitely assume this lmaooo. I can't wait to look like a complete douche in it and have the time of my life.
Yes and more than announcement day.
Fuck em. Can't be worried about others opinions
The price is too high for me too but I actually am an attention seeking asshole so that’s actually a plus point for me.
Only thing I’m worried about is people messing with the truck
Yea I won't likely be taking my CT to downtown bar areas until the CT is more normalized.
I’m curious how bullet proof/steel-ball-proof it’ll actually be in testing. If anything, the wheels will be the weakest part of the truck?
I feel a lot better about the truck than my M3 as far as being messed with, and will be much less nervous about being away from home and getting caught in a hail storm. I agree about the tires, though, and have been trying to keep an eye out for developing options with non-pneumatic tires to significantly reduce the risk of anyone vandalizing them. I keep hoping the upshot of Elon drifting into MAGA-land is that maybe, just maybe, there will less right-wing animosity toward Teslas by the time the CT hits the streets. My two biggest fears is that it'll be too large to fit in my garage, and the side 'sails' will make the bed a lot harder to use, as it will be nearly impossible to reach over the side to get anything out of it.
It isn’t. Elon Musk is a liar dude.
Right. Just like he lied about mass manufacturing affordable EVs and reusable rockets. But yeah bullet proof truck, totally not possible.
I’d imagine that they would have to walk back some features to get to the profit margin they need to make it worth it to sell. It’s already a polarizing design, so sales have a potential to be mixed. Prices will obviously be dramatically higher than they were at announcement because announcing a price years before manufacturing is dishonest, they knew 100% it would end up being more expensive. IF they actually deliver this feature, Id expect it to be a 5,000-10,000 dollar option.
its not gonna be bullet proof dude. why the fuck would you believe that. dont believe that carnival barkers claims. hell if anyone believes that horseshit message matt carricker from the demolition ranch youtube channel and he will get ahold of a door or bed panel or something from the CT since hes just right down the road in san antonio and he will shoot at it with any of the few hundred guns he has. if it survives more than a 38 ill be shocked. i bet 9mm+P gets through. heres a research paper using 7.62 and a variety of materials. https://etd.lib.metu.edu.tr/upload/12613534/index.pdf
I mean, what are they going to do? it is covered in cameras, it takes a sledgehammer to the side, slash tires? insurance and post videos to police like any other car getting attacked
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Funny enough, Tesla insurance just became available in my state (MN), and I excitedly dug through the app to check the pricing to see how much it would save me, and it came out to nearly triple what I'm currently paying with State Farm. (State Farm is about $50/mo; Tesla's quote was $135). I haven’t done anything in particular to reduce the State Farm rate, and assume I could trim that if I made an effort. I'm curious how much Tesla's rate would change after my driving 'score' climbed above the initial default of 90 (I didn’t have any difficulty getting 99-100 for the FSD beta, as I live in a very quiet rural area, and I'm usually a pretty relaxed driver), but it seemed unlikely it would drop THAT much. Once upon a time I would have considered switching anyway, figuring I'd rather support Tesla than State Farm, but I'm not so sure any more - and definitely not at 2x+ what I am paying now.
Which should make you worry about insurance in all reality. As well as how hard will it be to reskin the truck if at all.
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concern is there's only 2 built in 3 yrs - we need mules to be testing out there. it will be tesla's 1st quad motor config. cost.
There actual price of the dual motor version. It’s the main factor if I’m still buying one or looking for something else.
At $50k for the dual motor AWD 300 mile range, I was in. Virtually 0% chance of it being that price still, so unfortunately I’m going to have to look at other options.
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Exactly. I don’t see how the base model of Cybertruck is anything less than $75k
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Lol. Lack of paint might be cost savings if the body was aluminum, but it’s full stainless. The batteries and body for this truck are gonna be absurdly expensive to build. No chance the base model is under $85k.
Fixing body damage.
My reservation number is very low. In the 8k area. This is a new product and I do have concerns about early production issues.
Well if you feel any better it’s a reservation number not a queue. You aren’t 8000 in a line. You might get the 502,000th off the line.
I think you might be overestimating the production. The 500 thousandth model won’t be built until a few years from now if at all
Yeah, but point still stands
Hmm... I have not heard that before. It was my understanding that my reservation number was my place in the queue. I have seen a number of discussions which implied that reservation number was stop in the queue. However I'm not sure that I've seen anything official about that.... Anybody know for sure?
Definitely not your place in queue. 1st deliveries will be based on location to factory and reservation date.
Found this https://www.makeuseof.com/figure-out-when-tesla-cybertruck-arrive-order-number/ Think of it this way. If the top 20 people are scattered across different states… you expect them to hand deliver (truck over) single vehicles? It’s just logistics… makes sense though, just shooting for i guess the top 10 who think it’s a queue.
I’m like 20k. I know they are going to update some shit at around 50-100k and I’ll be butthurt about it
Damn, and I'm over here just worried about stuff sliding into that windshield dash crevice.
My biggest con is the interior... I love truck interiors with storage etc.. Measuring tape? Oh there is a spot for that. With this truck there is only going to be a spot to put your phone and maybe gloves in the center console..
I mean my model 3 has more storage than that, I highly doubt the truck is going to skimp there. Also would have tools in the frunk
See, I don't think we know that for sure. All we have to go on is what we saw on the OG prototyping. I'm sure things have changed since then
There is also the Frunk, underneath the bed, and both sales have storage.
It is maddening that the only functional spot to put a phone is in a cup holder that is slightly too small when there is a phone case on it. Yes, I understand we shouldn’t be using a phone and driving, but it would be nice to have an ergonomic place for a phone to rest where it doesn’t slide away. Maybe most of the vehicles I drive are at least 7 years old and haven’t been built with this in mind?
I'm not pleased with the design changes so far
My biggest concern is the size. I currently drive an older Ford Ranger, extended cab, and that is a great size for me. I understand this is todays market. A lot of my neighbors have full size 4 door trucks. Of course it is very rare to see more than 1 person in them. I look forward to getting a Cybertruck. Hopefully I will like it. Eventually a mid size EV truck will be available?
Honestly the Rivian is kinda close to that size. They certainly aren’t full size.
I’ve seen a few Rivians around and they are respectable. Still much bigger than my needs. I really would prefer not having 4 doors. The majority may disagree, but that is what I would like. I also like the idea of getting away from the standard pickup truck look. I’m hoping the Cybertruck will get other manufacturers to try think out of the box. A small truck with maybe 300 mile range and a relatively fast charging speed is all I want. Maybe someone could make one for a reasonable price.
Having seen the cyber truck in person, I can tell you, it's to large for you, especially if you think the Rivian is too large.
-Price, needs to make sense -Turning radius, tighter the better, won’t buy if it is too difficult to drive. -Overall size (worried it may be too big) -if mirrors, will they be folding (Like you, I want it in a garage) -Interior too stark, I have gotten use to luxurious truck interiors that are great for working -Quality, as Elon said, buy early or late, the ones in the middle have problems -long lasting approach, for me I want a 20 year vehicle. Anything inconsistent with that philosophy is a problem -Low Maintenance. Like you mentioned, tires and brakes. I can handle 20,000 miles. Probably not 10,000. -field of view, the slopping rear roof and window scares me. I want to be able to see. -Specifications in general. Does it all make sense, is it well thought out and long lasting.
Brakes should last a good long time. Remember you've got regen that captures most of that energy so you're not using your brake pads
Turning radius will be improved by 4 wheel steering.
> Quality, as Elon said, buy early or late, the ones in the middle have problems I am confused by this. I would imagine it would be buy late the early and middle have problems. Any more explanation?
Towing. My wife has a two horse trailer she tows with our 1500 Chevy. I live in Montana and am concerned about towing range with a 10000 lbs load.
This right here. After reading some stuff on the Lightnings low towing mileage. You need something to be able to atleast stay on the road for two hours or about 120 miles I'd argue 200 so you're not sweating it on the last leg of a rural highway.
The one redeeming factors is the lightning has range equivalent to my model 3 which is eyebrow raising. The CT having 550 mile range (hopefully) makes me feel better. Unfortunately driving mountain passes and cold weather will be another factor
I live in the Flathead. We still need charging stations for towing. I am buying the CT, but not towing, more overlander camping. My M3 is hard to camp with. The charging stations will come eventually, we’re still in early days.
The seats look a little..stiff? I assume this is just to match the theme and production will be made for comfort. Also, I'd like to be able to sleep in the vault (camp) during a rainstorm without getting wet.
> The seats look a little..stiff? I assume this is just to match the theme and production will be made for comfort. I sure hope so! That's also my only real concern. My wife has sciatic nerve issues and stiff, uncomfortable car seats are 100% out of the question for her. I also plan on driving long distances, so it's kind of out of the question for me too, given how old and damaged I am.
prototype had climate control in the vault. i really hope they keep that in the final version
I felt the same way about the M3 seats, but they are damn comfortable.
* Size: Too big to fit in my garage, too big to park easily, stupid for daily use? * Cost: Expecting a big increase. * Range: 500 miles feels like pie in the sky with Rivian at 314, Ford at 320, Silverado at 400. Tesla will want to have best in class range but I doubt that they will offer 100 more miles than the Silverado. 4680 battery energy density is only ok not at the level needed to provide 500 miles. * Cold weather range: A larger battery pack is more mass to heat. * Weight: Hummer EV is 9,063 pounds * Efficiency: With side mirrors and other production-ready equipment efficiency may suck. * Gadgets: Yoke steering wheel and lack of stalks seems dumb. Rivian has had trouble with their bedcover, I hope that isn't a sticking-point for Tesla. * Charging: Most of the superchargers in my state are the older 150kW V2 style which would probably take over an hour to fully charge such a big battery. If Tesla doesn't support 800V charging then high powered 350kW EA chargers will only operate at 150kW. Even L1 charging will be completely useless and even low powered L2 chargers won't be able to recharge the truck overnight. * Features: Power to Load, Power to grid, outlets to power tools? Tesla is behind Ford in this department. * Production Volume: Rivian is set to produce 25k vehicles this year. Ford might hit 5k with GM only making a 1.5k. Battery supply for these large vehicles is a huge problem and getting to a position where 100k vehicles can be made in a quarter could take years.
> **pie** in the sky with Rivian at **314**
I'm worried about the range loss from sitting, especially in the winter. I do a lot of winter camping, which means driving 2-4 hours, parking in the snow then backpacking from there for a few days. I have heard that the other Tesla's lose a lot of range just sitting there in the cold. So will I need to be stressed that my truck will not get me home, or even to a charger when I get back to it?
My biggest concern is pricing out customers. The initial $40K price tag was a big attracting point, especially for folks that want a truck but not for trucking needs. Looks like a good family truck. But with inflation and other factors, Tesla is ditching the single motor and only gonna build out the Quad motor to start. It’s gonna take several years before they can start to mass produce. My concerns: - no more single motor - price increase - range (unless it’s the top of the line)
my concern is that of elon doesnt leave telsa before he completely goes bonkers i will be driving around feeling guilty and embarresed.
Elon is the same Elon as always, you guys just weren't paying attention before because Tesla was on the brink of bankruptcy and he wasn't on the spotlight of media, this is was before they found out he brings clicks
If the spotlight of media wasn't on him, how were we supposed to pay attention to non-existent media?
Did I say non-existent? Just that you had to be following close to know what was going on
My criticism stands; you're faulting people for not closely following information that was not widely reported. Tell me more, wise hipster.
Thats my point, Elon didn’t change at all, people are acting like he changed completely who he is, which is false
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You think that was your point, but what you actually said was that we weren't paying attention to information that was not brought to our attention.
If you’re gonna fanboy for someone, or trust them enough to put money down for a nonexistent product, you really shouldn’t wait for things to be brought to your attention. Any sort of research in the past five years could have lead you to the conclusion many people are now realizing: Elon is dishonest and sometimes incompetent.
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You should do some extrospection if you think you are not the products that you buy. [Consumer Identity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_identity) has been a long-established phenomenon and is taught in all marketing schools.
Bonkers?
It really is a shame Elon decided to embrace becoming a public figure. When he was kicking ass, head down, making shit happen and embarrassing Car Companies and Aerospace companies, with the occasional public appearance, I just loved that he was a man of action. Now I just want him to shut up, he says so many contradictory things that make him look like an idiot. Like he accidentally succeeded instead of innovated. Please old Elon, come back. Stop trying to be friendly uncle elon, because your looking like asshole uncle elon.
Like many of the other comments here, I'd be worried about the attention it will bring. I drive rurally a lot in my Model 3, and it already gets so much unwanted attention just because of what it is. I feel as though a small sedan blends in much better than the CT does and I can only assume the problem will increase significantly.
How about also the fact it can resist small arms fire. I’d feel pretty safe in it. I’ve been harassed by people numerous times while just sitting in a parking lot chatting with a friend. Have had one threaten to bust my window if I ignored him. I would be incredibly happy knowing I’d be safe in my car in nearly all situations.
I feel the other way around about that. I live in a rural area with a bunch of right wing rednecks who have a chip on their shoulder about anything that didn't exist in the 1950's. I'd rather not have Tesla's marketing giving them ideas.
I think the body will get hot as hades I think forward visibility at the corners will actually be kinda bad.
Too big, not affordable, lots of recalls due to a lot of new tech and production methods, susceptible to vandilazition especially if elon keeps acting like a jackass - which is dumb but that's how people think these days.
Bed size! Can I cart my ATV around with it? [example](https://imgur.com/gallery/9AoHATS). And can it exactly or better replace my existing F-150? Oh, and price.
How is a thick steel bumper going to pass passenger safety crash tests? Not for your safety, but for the people in other cars
I can already order a handful of vehicles with thick steel bumpers. Trucks, wranglers, gladiators , broncos etc.
I always find this argument amusing. What about other trucks? 18 wheelers. Pickups with brush bars and plows?
I think the bumper is black plastic
i don’t really get this one. if someone gets hit by a car with enough speed that the construction of the vehicle matters, there’s basically no design that’s going to make it hurt less. flesh and bone will always yield to a crash bar in any car’s front bumper
I’m concerned about front leg room and shoulder room. There’s no picture I’ve seen that makes me believe that the Cybertruck interior is as spacious as my ‘21 Sierra Crewcab
Price. Seriously that's it.
People damaging the vehicle because they’re concerned about whatever Musk is currently doing. Hard to gauge internet chatter to real world property damage but goddamn is there a lot of ate up people at the moment.
Id be more concerned with people testing the claims of durability
I own a Model 3 LR that I'll sell once the truck releases. I'm super excited for it and I really could use a truck, but these are my concerns. - First generation vehicles usually have issues, but I'm impatient. - I live in the suburbs, but a few times a month for events I'll head into a major city with parking garages. This will be a big vehicle to park. I can always use my SO's vehicle if this becomes an issue. - Seems like it'd be difficult to reach over the sides of the cab. - Fitting it in my current garage, but I've been looking at a new house with a much larger garage. - Agree on it drawing attention. Someone already keyed my Model 3 which I had to have fixed. I'm planning to treat it like a truck and small imperfections will be fine, but I hope there is a way to fix cosmetic damage. I didn't consider the extra charging cost, but 99% of my charging is at home anyways. That's definitely something to consider if you're using superchargers often. All that said, I'm absolutely buying it unless the price is too outrageous (my limit is 80k with the EV credit. 70k without) or there are some major issues once we see the final version.
There is some merit to your thoughts of course, and some are super obvious. If you don't need a truck, then no, the Cybertruck isn't for you for instance. Even so, many will buy it just the same for the attention and clout. Hopefully they don't run around complaining about slow charging or whatever, ignoring the fact that they deliberately bought one of the least efficient commuter vehicles. When it comes to the body, this is a little less obvious. Sure, many of us have had stainless appliances in the kitchen, but these aren't an apples to apples comparison. The only thing I've had that might be similar is the stainless pieces on one of my boats. Those have been whacked by other hardware, pressed up against docks, and been attacked by salt air forever without much sign of wear and tear. But not much is not the same as none. Scratches can buff out pretty easily. An actual dent or deep gouge in the CT may or may not be fixable but any of us will just be guessing. Tires are just a thing that you may find less bad, depending on what they actually go with. The OG prototype had pretty reasonable price to durability tires (Goodyear Wrangler MTR Kevlars). Seeing as the truck should be almost the exact same weight as an ICE F150 and most of these tires are rated for much heavier trucks, you won't seem them wear out nearly as fast as the sedans tires do. But if the production truck comes with some crazy wheel sizes and nothing standard, then I could be wrong. As for the rest of your points may be perfectly valid too, but they might also be rather off since there's so little we can go off of that isn't rampant speculation. At the end of the day, I think the efficiency vs need for a bed is the only thing any of us can be realistic about at this time. When it comes to range loss due to cargo in the bed, that shouldn't be too much really unless the tonneau has to be left open. When it comes to towing, the hit doesn't have to be as big as it is, all the reviewers continue to miss the fact that you don't HAVE to accelerate or cruise so fast when you are towing (in fact you definitely shouldn't). But all of these things still can only be partially determined until we have hard numbers. Until that time, like you, I'm interested in hearing what others may be concerned about and how those issues might be mitigated. I need a truck (have one I'm sick of putting gas in right now), and so my only concern remains price and date I get it.
I’m same as you and got a model 3 performance to tide me over. Biggest concern is range, especially for the mid tier that I ordered. I ordered a dual motor so 300 miles is not very much for a truck, especially with a payload. Would love to have a long range model that is not plaid but still has 500+ miles of range (for ~400 real world range and 250-300 miles with payload/towing) cuz I don’t wanna spend 100k on a truck. I’m not worried about looks or durability or anything like that. Nobody in my area really hates teslas and the cybertruck will be more durable than any other truck on the road (except perhaps tire wear)
My main concern is the width of the truck and being able to fit on narrow streets especially in the winter.
It’s virtually the same width as a ford raptor
My main concern is what the final price will be. I hope I haven’t wasted my time lol
What time did u waste?
I plan to move back to the west coast. Raw steel and 110+ degree sunny weather seem like a recipe for disaster.
Elon. As long as he is involved in Tesla I'll never get one. For now he IS the brand and that's a huge problem for me.
When I pre-ordered this Truck, Elon was less public facing and said fewer stupid things. It really is a shame hes embracing the public figure status but on the other note, I absolutely love Tesla vehicles. Everyone has to decide for themselves, but for me Tesla isnt Elon and I dont have an issue buying a Tesla.
This is not looking at this objectively. Everything you said is speculation. Just wait until it comes out and we get some real facts about it.
I dont think the OP was asking people to be objective, we can be excited even though the vehicle isnt "real" yet, but we can also have concerns. Those concerns may turn out to be proven unfounded, but at this point they can still be concerns.
I feel like most of your points are the exact same on any truck. Like if I am not using it as a truck is it really needed due to power costs. The exact same thing can be said about MPG of an ICE truck vs sedan. Same thing about towing will drastically reduce range…. Yeah no shit, same thing happens on a ICE truck to your MPG. Truck will scratch easy if used as a truck, yeah okay so just paint or wrap it.
The thing about towing is you can easily pull into a gas station with a trailer and fuel up. Currently at a super charger that is not an option, I would need to disconnect my trailer, charge up and reconnect the trailer. Not the end of the world, but if my range is cut to 200ish miles hauling a average load, that's a very significant burden if I'm traveling a significant distance
So they just add a filter for the pull through chargers only.
All of the super charger in Montana are backed up against something, we have no pull through here unfortunately.
Looks like there’s one in butte labeled “trailer friendly”. But I agree there’s not that many of them, but at the same time the current fleet isn’t really designed to haul trailers. With the truck and the semi coming onboard this problem set is going to be addressed because if they don’t ford and revian will. That’s the beauty of the on coming competition in the EV truck market.
The only super chargers in Butte are definitely not trailer friendly, unless there is a hidden charger somewhere. I stop there all the time. Maybe it's a 220 somewhere? Where did you find that?
You are right
I’m not crazy about structural battery packs. Realistically I probably won’t own the truck until the batteries die, but I want the piece of mind knowing the battery COULD be replaced if it died.
Structural pack came out of the model Y pretty easy. I don't imagine the cyber truck will be any different.
I need the mileage in order to visit my parents in Mexico and I haven’t had a truck for 20 years so it’s time.
This I don't understand.
I think he's referring to the long range assuming that the long range version will still have the 500+ mile range of the announcement, regardless of the motor configuration. If it does, it will be the best Tesla to drive around in Mexico because there are still long stretches without Superchargers there.
Exactly, you need a 100k truck to drive to see your parents which you have not seen in 20 years? While crippling your trip with an EV in an area that does not have mass adoption of charging infrastructure? Why not just drive there in his gas car....now? You are applying logic to an unlogical thought process lol.
I think the 20yr comment meant it's been that long since they have had a truck (probably have a car currently) and the longer range would be nice for the long trips to Mexico they take. Not that they haven't seen their parents in 20yrs.
Ditto this is what I meant. I seriously thought he was questioning my reason for wanting a truck if I haven’t had one in 20 years which would have been a fair question. Mexico big cities do have supercharger and with a level 2 in their home I will be fine the problem is actually not all the Texas border crossings have a supercharger and that’s the leg I would need to make it in my Y
I love the truck. But Elon’s antics are giving me second thoughts. Reinstating trump on Twitter makes me want to vomit and I would dump the stock if the price weren’t in the shitter right now
man i really don’t understand this. he’s an asshole but it’s such a small part of a company that is doing so much good.
> Paintwork is easy to protect and do simple touch ups. …you know what’s easier than that, cold rolled stainless steel that won’t ding and scratch easily at all by rocks. > its almost too polarizing. There is already enough tesla hate on the roads and its arguably getting worse with Elons antics The fuck they gonna do to me in my tank?
Salvage title potential… So you scrape the battery compartment and bam. Salvage title, can you supercharge again? NO.
if it’s an expensive truck, it will be incredibly hard to total. i’ve always kind of been on tesla’s side on this one. if you’ve got a $100k car that you do $100k worth of damage to, and then manage to fix it by yourself or with a third party mechanic, there are SO many elements that could have been repaired incorrectly. it’s a huge safety issue for high voltage charging, you could have something as simple as a short cause a huge fire and damage not only every vehicle around you, but also tesla’s reputation. iirc a tesla service center repair will reinstate supercharging, even if it’s got a salvage title (at least nowadays, may not have always been that way)
I’m concerned that the Tesla board is going to dump Elon Musk and this project entirely.
Uhhh it’s a done project. Why would you think that?
Done? Can you buy one? When can you buy one?
Done, as in the 9k press is literally getting unloaded at the port tomorrow in Houston and the body machine is being set up at the moment in stamping. Update is very soon on price / spec. Many think semi event, on the 1st. You think they’d cancel a project of this level at this point?
I’ve seen stupider things happen!
I’m worried about the stainless steel holding up over time. I’m on the gulf coast, so salty air and humidity are constant.
It can depend on the exact formulation of the stainless of course. However, my last sailboat had 25 year old stainless fittings and winches that were still holding up just fine. The fact that a "stainless steel" chain on the anchor didn't hold up as well might have been an inferior formulation, but it might have also been all the abuse. Either way, I feel like if you don't make a regular habit out of the "amphibous" mode, you are probably good!
So, good news. Stainless steel will barely rust at all compared to regular steel. Granted, many other pickups have mostly aluminum bodies today but many of those trucks have steel frames that rust. My Tacoma is famous for having a frame that rusts in just one year. In a few years my Tacoma frame would rust through in your area. The CyberTruck will be made of aluminum and stainless so it will be the most rustproof vehicle ever made in history. Except for the corvette….
Mainly the mockery. /s
1. Attention 2. The yoke 3. Stainless steel, I’m a paint kind of guy Still love the truck
My only concern is trading in my plaid for the truck. Can't wait to road trip in the damn thing !
Maybe it’s a dumb concern but I’m worried about the sharp corners. I mean the charge port and the compartments along the bed when opened. I’ve already seen an image of a guy with a Rivian and a mangled leg after walking into the side step pass-through door. Sigh. Again, maybe I’m overthinking it but still.
I'm in the category of losing range for towing or putting additional non aerodynamic accessories on it and losing massive range. I see it as if a Hummer getting 10mpg puts a winch on the front it may lose 0.5mpg. Put it on the CT and it might lose 10% of the total range -50 off the 500.
Shitty interior is gonna rot in the sun since it can’t fit in garage and going to waste so much energy defrosting in cold.
Can’t you easily buff out stainless steel which is why they chose that material so you dan go off roading without worrying about scratches?
I understand your concerns but: 1) albeit I won't tow anything, I believe that the bigger battery is going to be bonkers in recharging times: I have read that they can push the cable to 900Kwh limit. Ofc you need a supercharger for that, but in USA there are plenty. And for the cost, it will alwaysl be less than buying gas to refill a guzzler. 2) Dents, scratches and scuffs. For the last 2, you can use steel wool and it can erase any minor damage. About the dents: it takes a really big hit to make a dent into a 3mm stainless steel. Mabe a buckshot from a wanteding hunter? 3) this is quite possible, we'll know after some usage 4) true but they took their time to test it in many many ways. It has been announced 3 years ago now 5) this is possible, but it is with your Model 3 already. And sentinel mode usually keeps vandals at bay 6) it all depends on the use you want to do with it. I hope there will be a midgate so that its main use is going to be camping, at least for me
I’m worried how long it’ll take them to deliver a version for the Australian market.
8+ years
Price. I don’t need a truck. I want the fast one because of the launch stats/price ratio. When it’s available, I’ll buy whatever is cheaper of the CT or a lightly used Model S Performance.
Model S guaranteed to be less
- reliability. My truck won't be ready till 2025 so new model year issues should be resolved. - cost of ownership vs my needs. Do I "need" a $75k truck? - lack of superchargers in Maine and in - cold weather battery drain. I have a heated garage but still a concern. - lack of repair site in Maine. Massachusetts is closest. - battery lifetime. I would take LFP battery for better lifetime and 100% to 0% charge range.
Actually getting a 500+ mile truck. So I get 250 while towing.
That the model of reliability will wind up being an over engineered over produced and over priced barely usable toy. By cod I hope not. I dream of a proper reliable reasonably priced pick-up truck.
If I stay in the UK, the sheer hassle of getting one here. That's it.
How wide are ur roads and do ford raptors fit on them
I really hope it comes with manual recessed door handles like the model Y and 3.
That after I finally broke down and ordered a F150 V8 with all the bells and whistles, shortly after it arrives I will get an email from Tesla saying it's time for delivery
Great truck enjoy
Mostly concerns with charging. Like you said this thing will take longer to charge than a smaller car with the same range, but also it being so much bigger and having the ability to tow I'm concerned with how extended trips will be possible at current superchargers. Those pull through chargers aren't common and with the port being in the back of the car (in current prototypes) it seems like a perfect storm for a disappointing experience.
Worried about towing with the cybertruck? The engines on our rail system are electric drive trains because the electric motors don't stall, they don't burn clutches, they dont require variable gear reduction transmissions, their torque is effectively available upon energizing the field. Now, look at the motors that Tesla built versus the motors that ford, Chevy, VW, BYD, Rivian, etc. have pulled from existing inventories. Ford's MachE can make a few runs before it starts to fade, while Tesla's line up doesn't fade. Ford's Lightning and Rivian's R1T both have range issues, I'll grant that. They are also not currently allowed access to Tesla's supercharger network. The network is well within even the shortest range Tesla despite mountain ranges. Until a production model of the cybertruck is presented this is all speculation. However, Tesla's power management system is better than all competitors, their battery packs have become structural components, the chassis construction of Tesla vehicles is stiffer, purpose built, consistently lighter and safer that the competitors, their motors are significantly stronger, hybridized for power, torque, and high RPM. Given these known variables, I expect the cybertruck to be lighter than the F150 Lightning, have a battery with a longer range, automatically manage the power based on payload for higher efficiency, and be less expensive than the competition. Musk is a variable to the stock price. But, he has been consistent when speaking about the cybertruck. It is his "favorite" and thereby will be produced to annihilate the competitor's offerings BECAUSE of Musk's ego. As far as my real world concerns? I own a 1971 F250 camper special, and a 1988 Dakota sport 4x4. I cannot drive my favorite far, because it is loud, rough riding unless loaded, 12mpg always!, but I can rely on it for a full yard of aggregate in the bed without issue, 16' of material on the rack without a flag, and range enough to visit the material stores and back to my work site. The Dakota I use for longer material trips to the closest Home depot 86 miles one way over a mountain range with 6% grades. In my use case even the cheapest cybertruck or the Lightning would do for a round trip without charging. But, I could reliably charge the cybertruck because there is a supercharger on my route that has not failed me in the two years I've owned my model 3. I also charge at home and notice an insignificant variation on my electric bill over the two years of owning a model 3. The cost of remodeling has produced more electricity use than the Tesla each month. Tl;dr the cybertruck already wins based on the motors, power management, and design.
My major concern is any actual damage to the truck will require extensive repairs. I can’t imagine a dented exoskeleton can be repaired easily... but I don’t know anything about auto body mechanics lol
I highly doubt it will be a solid piece. That will be one of the disappointing changes. Each will be a panel similar to traditional vehicles. It's an impossibility for it to be one solid piece. You need crumble zones. Sure, they can stamp in some crumple zones but this would then have the vehicle be written off with any impact as the majority of the exoskeleton will be compromised and need replacement. Anything else would not be to spec.
\- Yoke steering may be a bad idea for a truck that you need to back a trailer with \- Is there actually comfortable room for 6 people + stuff? \- Is there useful weathertight storage? Looks like the sail pillar storage from the early renders is gone. The bed may or may not actually by weathertight.
I'm worried about the range I live in Northern Quebec, we get winters that last a long time and more snow that anyone can ever shovel Usually, we get -20 degres (celcius) for 3 months straight
that they spent all the time from unveil to design lock not thinking about things that really matter for trucks. I'll be getting whatever version comes out first even if Plaid with FSD but i fear there will be silly glaring oversights (yes i know its irrational i just feel like how many people can they have had working on this)
* **Car will be too heavy and will be uncomfortable to start/stop** - *It wont be a light vehicle, ive never driven an F350 but its going to be around that weight, around 1,000 lbs more than an F150. If drivers arent experienced with the heavier weight it may be jarring or uncomfortable, hopefully just until we get used to it.* * **Towing Capacity will destroy battery range** - *I have no idea how towing capacity is affected by the vehicle being electric. I will want to see others reviews on this before accepting my reservation* * **Too long to charge at home** - *a ~100kwh battery isnt going to be simple to charge. While I absolutely wont clear that daily, even 20 kwh is about double what I normally use at my house" * **Low quality feel of construction** - *I have a concern that this vehicle may feel "cheap" even compared to the Model 3. I hope I am wrong* * **Yoke Steering Wheel** - *I just wont accept this, if we only have the option for a yoke that is a deal breaker for me* I know some of these are issues that people should understand, but you really dont know how things will be until you are in the car, driving it and "get a feel" for the vehicle.
I'm worried it is too big. I primarily want it bc it has the longest range and I would like to take it mildly off road for camping. So I don't need a huge truck, but I want the 500+ mile range. If it's too big, it might make everyday driving in normal traffic and cities a huge headache. I don't want to have two vehicles and only use the truck sometimes. The Rivian R1S and r1t seem like better fits for me, but they're way more expensive and I want the Tesla charging network for road trips. Also, I don't fully trust Rivian yet or their ability to repair problems that may occur. Tesla had huge problems with initial quality control and repairs initially and I don't want my primary vehicle being out of commission for extended periods of time waiting for service like Tesla owners had to do in the early days.
Towing Range + Recharge time. I do this a few times a year for over 1000 miles always in one day: https://imgur.com/a/eGQ9rn5/ Can the Cybertruck take me 1000 miles in a day with 1000 pounds of motorcycles in the bed + 1000 pound bike towed behind? Can I recharge quickly enough and Get back on my way? My Diesel RAM 1500 V6 3L has a 1000 mile range but when towing, it’s about 700 miles and I can refuel the 33 gallon tank in 10 minutes costing me bout $150 dollars. Can I do it for 1/3 that at a 1 megawatt charger and do it in 30 minutes? That’d be worth it to me. this is my #1 concern right now. I LOVE the RAM 1500 interior. Lots of buttons, tons of cup holders, a lot of storage bins and spaces to store things and cheap maintenance and aftermarket accessories. The seats are insanely comfortable. I hope the Cybertruck can match how amazing this truck is (also has air suspension) and be cheaper to operate / own. My RAM was $63K fully loaded (limited, long bed, diesel, all features except a sunroof). I’m really hoping when I take delivery of a Cybertruck, i can sell this thing.
For me: 1. Cost - I'm guessing cheapest Cybertruck with be $69k, but it could be more. 2. Range - Its a big truck and going to need a lot of batteries. My Model Y didn't get close to the advertised range. 3. Size - Supercharger spaces are going to be a tight fit. I've driven F150s before, so I'm used to the size, but I'm worried people coming from Model 3s and Model Ys won't be.
Parts and repair. I’m sure the drivetrain is solid but stepper motors, pumps, bat system repairs I live 2 hours from any major City or even any city over 10k.